[00:17] <stormy1> hi, sorry, the IRC window closed, when login again, all history is gone, so cannot see who wrote/suggested, in any event, opened this bug re: libc6-dev:    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1979371
[00:19] <ravage> stormy1, nice :) is there an easy C program you can link and the command to reproduce it?
[00:19] <ravage> program as in code to trigger the error
[03:23] <geosmile> My firefox is really sluggish on my ubuntu box (with a 3090 + 3900X + 64GB RAM) - any ideas how to debug/fix this?
[03:27] <enigma9o7[m]> try no extensions.... if that fixes it, restore them and remove them one at a time til you figure out which one
[03:36] <matsaman> enigma9o7[m]: might be easier to try an empty profile first
[03:36] <matsaman> back up your existing profile before you go poking around
[03:42] <geosmile> there was a variable - gfx.webrender.force-disabled - set to true - and looks like the speed improved!
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> yup that could do it
[04:03] <deltreey> anyone have a good recommendation for a scheduler/job orchestrator?  I mean, I'm happy with cron, but I'd like something more substantial
[04:05] <wez> deltreey: Depends what your VM / server does. If it was a backend of some description and was deployed to AWS, I would use AWS EventBridge scheduler to do that.
[04:06] <wez> Also depends if you are containerising it or not
[04:08] <deltreey> wez, currently I'm just triggering jenkins jobs using jenkins as a scheduler/orchestrator.  Usually it's docker containers I'm starting, but sometimes it's more complicated (like using the AWS CLI)
[04:43] <morganu> my update talk-back (response?) (message back to console?) has a lot of lines that start with a W: (except one E:, prolly for fail=null return.) - How long has it been like this and what are the changes? - A link would be great. Unless you do want to explain. Thanks.
[04:44] <morganu> re (sudo apt upgrade) to be clear.
[04:45] <morganu> Wait, forgot to mention I was experimenting. What would happen if I did update=grade 2 days in a row so it didnt need it.
[04:47] <morganu> W: Target CNF (main/cnf/Commands-all) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list:1 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list:2
[04:48] <morganu> eg many like that after reading packae lists. ---> sorry to bother you all. I hae not enough understandig to start questons except: What's that shiny thing?
[06:15] <alkisg> morganu: the best reply at this point would be "your 16.04 is ancient and not supported anymore, upgrade to 22.04 instead of trying to fix any apt sources"
[06:20] <wez> deltreey: Nice. I guess who is your audience too?
[06:20] <wez> Does your CEO need to use it? or dev / ops?
[06:29] <engin> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html Shift+PSCR does a whole multi monitor screenshot for me, instead of an area i select
[07:33] <ouyang> Hello!
[07:34] <ouyang> any topics here?
[07:36] <computerworm> Hi ouyang, this is a Ubuntu support channel.
[07:42] <ouyang> okay, got it.
[07:42] <Maik> ouyang: if you just want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:44] <ouyang> oh, sorry to disturb here.
[07:45] <ouyang> Just curious at what u r talking about.
[07:46] <Maik> ouyang: as per channel topic: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 18.04, 20.04, 21.10, 22.04 | Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here. | IRC info: https://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Download: https://ubottu.com/y/dl
[07:59] <chipas> i have a lot of commands running in my system like  sh -c { ('/usr/bin/php8.1' '-      how do i kill all the processes like this?
[08:00] <dobbicorp> doing killall sh doesn't seem like a good idea
[08:03] <fruity_tomatoy> there is also pkill
[08:09] <dobbicorp> fruity_tomatoy: thank you
[08:18] <geirha> perhaps kill the php process(es) instead
[08:51] <osse> Is it possible to assign these descriptive names somehow? https://imgur.com/a/7xyINLZ
[08:53] <BedMan_> Jun 21 16:20:38 cf-xcat-g02-43 sshd[3019207]: error: connect_to cfrw2infrgen01 port 80: failed.
[08:53] <BedMan_> Jun 21 16:20:42 cf-xcat-g02-43 sshd[3019207]: error: connect_to cfrw2infrgen01 port 80: failed.
[08:53] <BedMan_> doh...
[08:54] <BedMan> mispaste when shooting for a copy
[08:54] <BedMan> osse: sure you can assign names to volumes
[08:56] <BedMan> I don't do much with any gui tho, so I'm not sure which volume description would get filled in there in the file explorer gui
[09:00] <osse> BedMan: Not sure why I haven't tried this before, but stumbling around in Disks I was able to set the filesystem label, and that did the trick
[09:00] <osse> Nice
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[09:13] <Unit193> Looks all handled. \o/
[09:13] <arraybolt3[m]> Unit193: Thank you!
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[11:09] <Yosemite> hi I am having a a silly issue with installing ubuntu 22.04
[11:09] <Yosemite> in the setup my wifi network shows up and I chose one and enter the details
[11:09] <Yosemite> then after install there's no network connections
[11:10] <Yosemite> I am using a marvel chipset/adaptor and is a bit tricky because it doesn't physically have wifi or anything
[11:10] <Yosemite> I tried reinstalling (erase drive) and it's still like that ? ?
[11:11] <Yosemite> mainly weird because as I say the setup live usb shows the networks and takes my password
[11:12] <Yosemite> if anyone has any tips <3
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Yosemite: could you journalctl -f from a terminal, then switch wifi off and back on, then provide us the output logs in a !paste please
[11:17] <Yosemite> haha getting them to the web might be tricky but i'll take a look and see what I can do
[11:17] <Yosemite> one moment
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> Yosemite: got a cable handy for your network?
[11:18] <Yosemite> it doesn't have ethernet/anything -- silly usb-c "ultrabooks" lol
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[11:18] <Yosemite> it's got bluetooth I could potentially PAN to that
[11:18] <Yosemite> also re; turn wifi off and on
[11:18] <Yosemite> it doesn't show anything to turn off/on
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> Yosemite: check also; sudo lshw -C network , to see if your wifi driver=.... is loaded
[11:18] <Yosemite> the confusing part for me is that it worked in the installer
[11:18] <Yosemite> ok one moment
[11:20] <Yosemite> ok so doing `journalctl -f`
[11:20] <Yosemite> and saw I can turn on airplane mode
[11:21] <Yosemite> so did that and it unloaded/disabled "WWAN"
[11:21] <Yosemite> oh hmmm
[11:21] <Yosemite> re-enabling it
[11:21] <Yosemite> I get something pretty cryptic.. um
 ... failure changing link (already in progress)
[11:22] <Yosemite> kernel: <red text> failed to poll offset [...]
[11:22] <Yosemite> mac power on failed
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> Yosemite: did you choose updates during setup?
[11:23] <Yosemite> I think so, yeah
[11:23] <Yosemite> after that it does report the wwan-enabled result "success"
[11:23] <Yosemite> let me see what the second command does
[11:25] <Yosemite> so `sudo lshw -C network`:
[11:25] <Yosemite> *-network DISABLED
[11:25] <Yosemite> description: Wireless interface
[11:25] <Yosemite> ...
[11:25] <Yosemite> vendor: Realtek (the setup said it was a marvel...)
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> aha
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> you got a switch somewhere for wifi?
[11:26] <Yosemite> just airplane mode I think uhhhh :checking:
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> what does driver=.... say?
[11:26] <Yosemite> rtw_8822be
[11:26] <Yosemite> and yeah just airplane mode
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> so module loading, thats good news
[11:26] <Yosemite> but setup was showing networks with marvel driver i'm 99% sure
[11:27] <Yosemite> and that's what I thought it had from windows also
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> whats your current kernel version Yosemite , uname -a
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> some wifi brands have sub chipsets of others
[11:27] <Yosemite> It's a fresh install from the ubuntu 22.04 image/usb
[11:27] <Yosemite> Linux 5.15.0-25-generic #25-ubuntu
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> since its realtek, they are kernel itchy, would be good to know
[11:28] <Yosemite> well on windows I am 99% certain I had to use the marvell drivers
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> not handy you dont got eth Yosemite , perhaps updates would fix this
[11:28] <Yosemite> lol yes indeedy
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> current kernel version might like it
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> 5.15.0-39-generic
[11:29] <Yosemite> like it's not even showing networks but I can manually add them specifying literally every param but doubt it will work that way
[11:29] <Yosemite> the setup saying "Marvell" atleast listed my networks haha
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> Yosemite: you got another usb network dongle to pull updates on?
[11:29] <Yosemite> ps they're basically like the 2nd rate ultrabook standard chips I believe
[11:30] <murmel> any way to maybe hook up a mobile phone hotspot? (usb)
[11:30] <Yosemite> ummmmmm I could maybe use my phone if there's easy android support built in
[11:30] <murmel> Yosemite: if you can connect usb, it's literally in the notification to select
[11:31] <Yosemite> alright lets see
[11:31] <Yosemite> still kind of problematic in 2022 haha
[11:31] <Yosemite> ethernet ports are becoming less and less common on portables
[11:34] <Yosemite> lol alright got some internet with a usb-c cable whos tip is twisting off xD
[11:35] <Yosemite> will try an update/upgrade etc and see how that goes
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate
[11:35] <Yosemite> yeah cheers <3
[11:43] <Yosemite> ok so did that, lots of updates including the kernel etc
[11:43] <Yosemite> still no joy
[11:43] <Yosemite> I don't even appear to have 'ifconfig'
[11:44] <Yosemite> that can't be good lol
[11:44] <Yosemite> ohh wait ok ok so there was a bit of progress
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> Yosemite: did you reboot after updates?
[11:45] <Yosemite> not a lot but I do have a "wifi" button in the sys panel drop down now
[11:45] <Yosemite> clicking it and selecting "select network"
[11:45] <Yosemite> it just says no networks lol
[11:45] <Yosemite> and yeah I did
[11:45] <Yosemite> in Settings panel now it also shows Wifi
[11:45] <murmel> hm fw missing maybe?
[11:46] <Yosemite> and has the box ticked on in top right
[11:46] <Yosemite> and aeroplane mode off
[11:46] <Yosemite> no networks again
[11:46] <Yosemite> I can't imagine how it can even try to work without ifconfig
[11:46] <Yosemite> or how it's not installed >.>
[11:46] <Yosemite> unless it's drastically changed since 20.04 lol
[11:47] <murmel> Yosemite: ifconfig is not used anymore
[11:47] <Yosemite> realllyyy
[11:47] <Yosemite> oh ok then!
[11:47] <Yosemite> ok well definite progress then lol
[11:47] <Yosemite> but sadly still not even listing networks
[11:47] <murmel> if you want to see the same output of ifconfig it's now "ip a" which is ip address
[11:47] <Yosemite> lets see if it lets me turn on hotspot from it lol
[11:48] <Yosemite> lol it definitely does not work but SAYS it's working
[11:48] <Yosemite> oh dear
[11:48] <Yosemite> even the QR code just says "check network" from my second device
[11:49] <Yosemite> it does let me disable and re-enable the wifi through the gui
[11:49] <Yosemite> and then looks like it's TRYING to find networks
[11:50] <Yosemite> and just to reiterate when it in setup shows my Marvell adaptor with a long name/set of standards
[11:50] <Yosemite> it does show the networks
[11:50] <Yosemite> that's the major confusion point for me
[11:50] <Yosemite> at some point it looks like it decided that the realtek driver would be fine though
[11:50] <Yosemite> which it clearly isn't ;p
[11:51] <murmel> Yosemite: what does lspci say about your wifi device?
[11:51] <Yosemite> ill see if it's changed
[11:51] <Yosemite> so lshw still shows "*generic DISABLED" ... vendor: Realtek
[11:52] <Yosemite> journalctl -f still shows "failed to poll offset" "mac power on failed"
[11:52] <Yosemite> and lspci....
[11:52] <Yosemite> Realtek Semiconductor
[11:53] <Yosemite> Just to be 1000% sure
[11:53] <Yosemite> I will boot off the live usb just to check 100% what it says
[11:54] <Yosemite>  just while i'm waiting on that
[11:55] <Yosemite> it wouldn't have anything weird to do with tpm/secure boot/etc ?
[11:55] <Yosemite> seems unlikely
[11:55] <Yosemite> I just noticed in the bios it's still in <setup mode>
[11:55] <murmel> very very unlikely.
[11:56] <murmel> hm seems to me you are missing the fw, but idk how the package is called in ubuntu
[11:56] <murmel> can't find it on packages.ubuntu.com :/
[11:56] <Yosemite> the firmware does appear to be loaded in lshw
[11:57] <Yosemite> it does say DISABLED idk how/why/where lol
[11:57] <Yosemite> ok so even going into "try" mode on same ubuntu live usb
[11:57] <Yosemite> wifi works fine
[11:57] <Yosemite> lets see what IT says
[11:58] <Yosemite> huh okay so it actually says it's using the RTL8822BE driver too
[11:58] <Yosemite> but <works>
[11:58] <Yosemite> the plot thickens
[11:59] <murmel> yup ;)
[11:59] <Yosemite> only difference is next to the interface "*-generic"
[11:59] <Yosemite> it doesn't say "DISABLED"
[11:59] <murmel> on your installed system make sure that linux-firmware is installed i guess
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> Yosemite: you got secureboot enabled?
[11:59] <Yosemite> when I throw the airplane mode it still gives the same kernel errors
[11:59] <Yosemite> lotuspsychje: nope it's off
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> kk
[12:00] <Yosemite> murmel: I just did a full update heh
[12:00] <Yosemite> without knowing a specific package it's hard to know what i'm doing
[12:00] <Yosemite> but my mind is blowing that I even did a clean reinstall
[12:00] <murmel> sure, but if linux-firmware is not installed, you don't have the firmware that is required
[12:01] <Yosemite> wouldn't I have <bigger problems> ? :P
[12:01] <Yosemite> but I am still marginally confused becaussseeee this isn't the wifi device label the SETUP uses, ill check now
[12:01] <murmel> not really, as most hw has backed in fw, so most just work (with security holes and whatnot)
[12:02] <murmel> xD
[12:02] <Yosemite> well s.... okay the installer shows Realtek too I must have been tripping or something idk
[12:02] <Yosemite> ok back to the real install
[12:02] <murmel> Yosemite: maybe you werent 100% present?
[12:09] <Yosemite> lol possible -- I think I just confused it for another device
[12:09] <Yosemite> ok back in real install, reconnected to the internet, no more updates/upgrades
[12:09] <Yosemite> I do `sudo apt list linux-firmware` and it shows it
[12:10] <Yosemite> but again if that's the right driver it seeeems to be loaded
[12:10] <Yosemite> it's just... disabled
[12:10] <Yosemite> so, how do I.. un-disable it :P
[12:10] <Yosemite> i'm also curious as to how/why this happened even moreso now I know it's just an RTL
[12:12] <murmel> Yosemite: can you make sure that your firmware is actually on the disk /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8822befw.bin
[12:12] <Yosemite> sure one moment
[12:14] <Yosemite> yeah it's there and a whole bunch of other stuff as well as /lib/firmware/rtl_nic
[12:14] <Yosemite> and rtl_bt
[12:15] <murmel> yeah, ubuntu drops almost every blob on your disk ;)
[12:15] <Yosemite> the journalctl bits I recapped showed it was loading it else it wouldn't have a small apparently not relevant issue outputting
[12:15] <Yosemite> when airplane mode on/off
[12:15] <murmel> okay now I am also rather perplexed what's going on
[12:15] <Yosemite> so it does literally seem at some point it decided to disable that interface
[12:16] <Yosemite> so, via what mechanism would that have occurred
[12:16] <Yosemite> and how do I enable it in the "new" system
[12:16] <Yosemite> aka no ifconfig etc
[12:17] <murmel> Yosemite: look into ip link
[12:17] <murmel> can't remember the top of my head which command it specifically is
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:20] <murmel> Yosemite: sorry, but I have to leave. Hope you can still figure out what's going on
[12:20] <Yosemite> `sudo ip link set *-generic up`
[12:21] <Yosemite> "cannot find device *-generic"
[12:21] <Yosemite> that's the output in `sudo lshw -C network`
[12:21] <Yosemite> er the name outputted rather
[12:21] <Yosemite> >.>
[12:22] <Yosemite> oooo
[12:22] <Yosemite> ok so
[12:22] <Yosemite> `sudo ip link list`
[12:23] <Yosemite> shows 2 devices; loopback and `wlp2s0`
[12:23] <Yosemite> `sudo ip link set wlp2s0 up`
[12:23] <Yosemite> no error....
[12:23] <Yosemite> No networks.
[12:23] <Yosemite> ;p
[12:23] <Yosemite> murmel: thanks for your time
[12:24] <Yosemite> in 'ip link list' it still says "DOWN" mode DORMANT
[12:24] <Yosemite> this is so painful
[12:26] <Yosemite> are we //SURE// this couldn't be related to secureboot or TPM or something
[12:26] <Yosemite> the live usb boots in EFI
[12:26] <Yosemite> it's literally the only difference I can think of
[12:26] <BluesKaj> try sudo dhclient
[12:27] <hiroot> Why Firefox Starts Slowly in Linux Systems
[12:27] <BluesKaj> hiroot, probly because you're using the snap version of FF
[12:30] <hiroot> I download from mozilla.org~
[12:31] <BluesKaj> check FF help/about FF
[12:34] <hiroot> Have you encountered my problem? Or what browser are you using? chrome?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> FF mozilla
[12:38] <Yosemite> BluesKaj: hm `sudo dhclient` seems to hang
[12:38] <Yosemite> several minutes now
[12:38] <BluesKaj> hiroot, the snap version is very slow to load vs the mozilla version ... that was my experience
[12:39] <Maik> the snap version of firefox starts up slow the first time. Besides that they have been working on improving the startup time for the snap version.
[12:40] <Maik> No further issues here with the snap version of FF. It also depends on what kind of system you have, CPU, RAM, HDD or SSD.
[12:41] <hiroot> I have to go back to Chrome~ haha
[12:42] <hiroot> linuxmint,I7 8xxx,16G,SSD1T
[12:43] <Maik> !Mint | hiroot
[12:43] <Maik> hiroot: so you have to check at Mint's end, not here.
[12:43] <hiroot> ok
[12:43] <Yosemite> well
[12:44] <Yosemite> I'm going to do something dramatic
[12:44] <Yosemite> and enable secureboot etc
[12:44] <Yosemite> do another clean install lol
[12:45] <Yosemite> wish me luck >.>
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[13:16] <Yosemite> No luck... Network worked fine again in live usb - going through the installer I appeared to connect to the network fine and it said it was "preparing device drivers" briefly which I sat and waited to finish before proceeding
[13:16] <Yosemite> did the install, even said it was applying updates
[13:17] <Yosemite> and then it boots andddddd <nothing> back to not even having a wifi section/button/tab at all
[13:17] <Yosemite> which presumably will come back after I use my phone to update it again...
[13:17] <Yosemite> But still wont actually see any networks... The network I already connected to...
[13:18] <Yosemite> It's literally just a generic as heck Realtek (RTL)
[13:18] <Yosemite> and now it's running in proper EFI etc
[13:18] <Yosemite> not that I really wanted that but it doesn't really matter xD
[13:20] <Yosemite> same as before I can find the adaptor listed
[13:21] <Yosemite> and do `sudo ip link <id> up`
[13:21] <Yosemite> and it doesn't error but doesn't do <anything> and it remains down
[13:21] <Yosemite> in lshw it lists it as "*-generic DISABLED"
[13:22] <Yosemite> in lspci it shows it with no interesting details -- drivers are present and apparently loading/unloading in `journalctl`
[13:22] <Yosemite> it does give a small error but it was literally just connected on the live usb... lol
[13:23] <Yosemite> and gives the same error on the live usb
[13:23] <Yosemite> while working fine
[13:23] <Yosemite> getting pretty frustrated tbh
 hello everyone, i'd love to ask about
 https://paste.centos.org/view/13bc5651
 how do i tell apt (or dpkg?) to select N
 i do have export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive DEBCONF_NONINTERACTIVE_SEEN=true
[14:12] <hexo_> any idea what to do? pretty please :)
[14:15] <leftyfb> hexo_: -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold"
[14:16] <leftyfb> hexo_: dpkg --force-help
[14:16] <hexo_> mmmm, thanks /me looks
[14:28] <hexo_> thanks, seems like it worked
[14:29] <Yosemite> so some further research
[14:30] <Yosemite> there doesn't appear to be a dkms package available for the rtl 8822 BE
[14:31] <Yosemite> -_-
[14:31] <Yosemite> which, ofcourse, doesn't answer why it works from the live usb....
[14:32] <Yosemite> closest one was for the RTL8821CE
[14:32] <Yosemite> so..... :stabs in the dark wildly:
[14:32] <Yosemite> I haven't run ubuntu natively for quite some time, just need to try a few specific things really (all requiring internet xD)
[14:33] <Yosemite> but I have heard of these kind of nightmares
[14:33] <Yosemite> specifically for networking for some reason
[14:59] <jhutchins> There should be a menu-based list of start-up servcices that you can check "on" or "off".  Why, in 2022, is a "Modem Manager" running at every boot?
[14:59] <leftyfb> !bug | jhutchins
[15:00] <wansingcheng> ni hao
[15:05] <Yosemite> I honestly cannot believe how absolutely fkd drivers are in 2022
[15:05] <Yosemite> (with Ubuntu I mean ofc)
[15:06] <Yosemite> apparently, I need to clone some github repo -- requiring me to setup their new token auth -- which makes linux systems more accurately pin drivers to devices under marginally different revision names
[15:06] <Yosemite> ie RTL 8822be vs 8822ce
[15:06] <Yosemite> which both, in reality, work with the identical driver >.>
[15:06] <Yosemite> but I need to install this totally random thing.. to identify it in a way that will work with Ubuntu.
[15:07] <Yosemite> I just... I need to sleep on this... Bloody hell ;/
[15:08] <Yosemite> It's not an opensource issue to be clear because the driver it apparently will point it to WILL work fully 100% interchangably
[15:08] <Yosemite> I just have to... Fool my own system... To get <networking>
[15:10] <Yosemite> It's also not a bug.
[15:10] <Yosemite> It just is how it is...
[15:11] <Yosemite> the situation doesn't seem much/any better for other kinds of hardware either by the same kinda stuff
[15:11] <Yosemite> xorg I guess works pretty hard at their compatibility testing stuff -- which is helpful but only one component heh..
[15:12] <Yosemite> goodnight for now, will think on it some
[15:32] <jessy> hello?
[15:32] <hexo_> hello?
[15:32] <jessy> how are ou ?
[15:32] <jessy> you
[15:33] <hexo_> sick
[15:33] <hexo_> and you?
[15:33] <jessy> i,m fine thnx
[15:33] <jessy> i,m sorry you sick
[15:33] <hexo_> :)
[15:33] <jessy> whats is youre name?
[15:37] <leftyfb> !ot | jessy
[15:53] <kerfluffy> hi
[15:53] <silv3r_m00n2> in kate text editor, the tab titles are showing the folder name along with the file name, how can i disable that ? this was not there in previous versions
[15:53] <kerfluffy> anyone know if it's possible to setup custom DNS resolvers for selected domains?
[15:53] <kerfluffy> i know it can be done on OSX
[15:54] <hexo_> silv3r_m00n2: if its not in settings, i advice you to get sources and patch it yourself
[15:55] <silv3r_m00n2> hmm, let me see if i can do that ...
[15:56] <hexo_> at least thats what im doing. since they dont care at all what users want
[15:56] <leftyfb> kerfluffy: you would need to setup a nameserver with forwarders to the other nameservers as needed
[15:56] <kerfluffy> oh
[16:33] <Xeroine> Hello, does anyone know if there exists a script or something similar released by the Ubuntu devs that sets up GNOME just like it is by default on Ubuntu?
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> Xeroine: gnome-tweaks has a reset to defaults button, if thats what you're after?
[16:41] <jhutchins> I suspect he wants to clone the Ubuntu desktop to another distribution.
[16:43] <Xeroine> yeah
[16:44] <Xeroine> it's not like it's a lot of work but I just wanted to know maybe it exists
[16:44] <Xeroine> haven't found anything in openSUSE repos so far
[16:48] <leftyfb> Xeroine: so you're moving from openSUSE to Ubunut?
[16:48] <leftyfb> Ubuntu*
[16:48] <Xeroine> no
[16:48] <jhutchins> Perhaps the way to address all the spurious services would be an optional subrouting in the installer that prompted a list of services and modules to install and let you opt out of the kitchen sink.
[16:48] <leftyfb> Xeroine: from Ubuntu to openSUSE?
[16:49] <Xeroine> no, I just like the Ubuntu's GNOME defaults
[16:49] <leftyfb> Xeroine: then run Ubuntu
[16:49] <Xeroine> no
[16:50] <leftyfb> Xeroine: then please seek support for your distro in their irc channel or other support mediums
[16:50] <Xeroine> I mean I like that I'm not forced to use snaps and tumbleweed is has never packages
[16:50] <Xeroine> alright
[16:50] <Xeroine> nevermind
[19:59] <Elliria> Hey there, are new Emacs windows treated as non-windows until they're saved?
[20:41] <Xeroine> how hard is it to compile a version of GNOME with the changes Ubuntu developers have applied on top? if there's not like over 10 packages that are needed to compile and have it working then I was thinking of using openSUSE's open build service to build it. how many packages are needed to make it functional?
[20:42] <Xeroine> earlier today I found a github link to ubuntu's custom settings manager but I can't find it anymore
[20:44] <oerheks> did you wipe your browser history?
[20:44] <oerheks> this is the whole 4 branche https://code.launchpad.net/~git-ubuntu-import/ubuntu/+source/gtk4/+git/gtk4
[20:45] <Xeroine> this is just gtk4, no?
[20:45] <Elliria> Do any of you know if new Emacs windows are treated as non-windows until they're saved or if they're just like any other Emacs windows?
[20:46] <Xeroine> anyways I found the settings manager here with some patches https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-control-center/-/tree/ubuntu/master/debian/patches
[20:48] <Xeroine> but what else would I need?
[20:50] <ciscoafk> Xeroine why emacs :|
[20:50] <Xeroine> ciscoafk: what? I didn't ask about emacs
[20:51] <ciscoafk> fine don't bite
[20:51] <Elliria> I did.
[20:51] <arraybolt3[m]> ciscoafk: You meant to direct that at Elliria, I think.
[20:52] <Elliria> I'm trying to help this person: https://groups.google.com/g/autokey-users/c/-HtzbHQGCqg/m/-LECp2R_BAAJ
[20:52] <Elliria> There seems to be something different about new Emacs windows and I was hoping to find someone in here who might know what it is.
[20:54] <jhutchins> Elliria: 874 people in #emacs
[20:55] <Elliria> Ah, thanks, jhutchins.
[20:57] <Xeroine> I'd need to compile at least all the packages in ubuntu-desktop-minimal metapackage?
[20:59] <IntelCore> 22.04 help
[21:00] <IntelCore> started upGrade get to it says 'do you want to...'  panel is too big for screen...
[21:02] <jhutchins> IntelCore: Do you have backups?  Hit enter and see what happens!
[21:02] <oerheks> right mouse > resize?
[21:02] <IntelCore> lets try
[21:03] <IntelCore> nop
[21:03] <IntelCore> wont move
[21:03] <IntelCore> no other menu comes
[21:03] <jhutchins> IntelCore: Try y <enter>
[21:04] <arraybolt3[m]> IntelCore: Can you force-close the graphical window and do your do-release-upgrade from a terminal? Or are you already mid-upgrade?
[21:04] <IntelCore> did
[21:04] <IntelCore> did from a terminal
[21:04] <arraybolt3[m]> IntelCore: Maybe a silly question, but can you scroll down?
[21:04] <IntelCore> can't scroll
[21:05] <oerheks> use tab and space to go on
[21:05] <IntelCore> distribution upgrade panel appeared and then this big one on top
[21:06] <oerheks> is this bare metal or virtualbox?
[21:06] <IntelCore> that closed
[21:06] <IntelCore> me? is amd upgr
[21:06] <jhutchins> IntelCore: To get any deeper we're going to have to know about the hardware environment.
[21:07] <IntelCore> intel core i5
[21:07] <IntelCore> hp 15 2015
[21:08] <IntelCore> 1360x768?
[21:09] <IntelCore> Intel® Core™ i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz × 4
[21:09] <IntelCore> jhutchins,  any more u need?
[21:12] <oerheks> this might be a fancy theme thingy, not respecting such windows.
[21:12] <IntelCore> compiz?
[21:13] <IntelCore> metacity
[21:13] <IntelCore> gnome 3.36.8 on x11
[21:14] <jhutchins> IntelCore: Installed software shouldn't have anything to do with the initial stages of upgrade.
[21:14] <IntelCore> k
[21:14] <jhutchins> IntelCore: Is this a laptop?  What is the display setup?
[21:14] <IntelCore> laptop
[21:15] <IntelCore> 16:9 at1360x768
[21:15] <IntelCore> intel 5500u
[21:16] <jhutchins> Internal display?
[21:16] <jhutchins> What was the last step that completed successfully?
[21:18] <IntelCore> terminal bash command opened upgrade.. and in a sec, it asked on a big new panel if I ws all this info, but no place to click on yeswanted to upgrade and it sho
[21:18] <oerheks> use tab and space to go on
[21:18] <IntelCore> the small panel is behind it
[21:19] <IntelCore> yes used tab space.. it all went away
[21:19] <IntelCore> do i start again?
[21:20] <IntelCore> sudo apt update
[21:20] <IntelCore> sudo apt upgrade
[21:21] <IntelCore> do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 -d
[21:22] <jhutchins> IntelCore: Did the update/upgrade steps complete correctly?
[21:22] <IntelCore> no
[21:22] <IntelCore> i dunno
[21:22] <jhutchins> Should have been all text.
[21:24] <IntelCore> clicked software updater. nothing needs update.. no place to click to upgrade
[21:29] <jhutchins> IntelCore: Well there's yer problem right there: Don't try to do an upgrade with the GUY>
[21:30] <jhutchins> GUI
[21:30] <IntelCore> wasn't
[21:30] <IntelCore> it started with three terminal commands
[21:30] <IntelCore> a panel opened
[21:30] <IntelCore> another opened
[21:31] <IntelCore> and the software updater is not getting an upgrade
[21:33] <IntelCore> used tab+space.. that closed the panels
[21:33] <tomreyn> why do you think you need to run "do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 -d"?
[21:34] <IntelCore> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/upgrade-ubuntu-20-04-lts-to-22-04-lts/#Upgrade_to_22.04_using_GUI
[21:35] <tomreyn> this is a third party guide on doing a GUI upgrade. did you not say you want to do an upgrade without the GUI?
[21:37] <IntelCore> I followed that, and ran into the panel - that stopped me from continuing
[21:38] <IntelCore> is 22.04.1 lts available?
[21:38] <IntelCore> 22.04.0 is
[21:39] <tomreyn> 22.04.0 was released in april, as the name says. you use ubuntu daily, don't you?
[21:40] <IntelCore> sorta. dual boot
[21:40] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | IntelCore: I really thought you could know this my now
[21:40] <IntelCore> so since April the upgrade has not started
[21:40] <tomreyn> !ltsupgrade | IntelCore
[21:44] <IntelCore> Continue [yN]  Details [d]
[21:44] <IntelCore> Restoring original system state
[21:44] <IntelCore> Aborting
[21:46] <oran> hello
[21:46] <oran> as a brand new linux user, I was wondering if anyone can point in the right direction to setting up my nvme raid 0 on this new kubuntu 22.04 install
[21:48] <cbreak> raid 0? living dangerously :/
[21:49] <oran> nah this is just a game hosting server
[21:49] <oran> nothing valuable to lose
[21:49] <oran> ive been running raid 0 arrays exclusively on windows since 2018 and only had one wd black array fail
[21:49] <cbreak> I personally use ZFS. The installer can set this up, and you can later add an other device to the pool, making it "striped"
[21:50] <oran> oh cool
[21:50] <cbreak> (if you add it correctly, you get a mirror :D)
[21:50] <cbreak> but the way ubuntu's installer sets up zfs isn't optimal
[21:50] <oran> hmm
[21:50] <cbreak> I think it's probably possible to do it manually, but I've not tried it yet
[21:50] <cbreak> and it's probably not something a new linux user would want to start with
[21:50] <oran> yeah i was on google and saw peopel saying something like mdadmn or somethign liek that but lots of people saying its horrible on ubuntu
[21:51] <cbreak> yes, md is an other way to get mirroring
[21:51] <cbreak> it probably also supports striping
[21:51] <cbreak> I think yet an other way is to use lvm
[21:52] <cbreak> I think the installer also offers installation on LVM, but ... not sure (also, I've not really used lvm myself, I think it should support something like striping, but don't really know. Maybe it's just concatenation)
[21:52] <oran> im really suprised at the ubuntu/kubuntu community and the progress linux has made since the last time I attempted to switch from windows in 2015
[21:52] <oran> i might actually be able to not go back this time
[21:52] <cbreak> I switched away from MacOS earlier last year. I quite like ubuntu.
[21:53] <oran> im liking it so far.  Ive been on it for 4 days now, and this is the longest I have gone since 1998 without rage quitting and going back to windows
[21:53] <cbreak> it's not the most up to date, it's not the most conservative LTS. It's widely supported. And it comes with zfs :D
[21:54] <IntelCore>  that until it reaches RC state which isn't expected until after 14 April 2022, upgrade from 21.10 to 22.04 opens after the release of Ubuntu 22.04; however the upgrade path from 20.04 (to 22.04) won't be opened until after the release of 22.04.1 which is usually ~3 months after the initial release (ISO release)
[21:54] <cbreak> (and valve's work on steam / proton is great. It feels like I can play more games here on linux than I could play on MacOS)
[21:55] <oran> yeah i switched over to kubuntu because im told my 7d servers I hoste will run better on linux so here is hoping.  I already have steam installed but thats about it
[21:55] <oran> im still learning my way around
[21:56] <oran> i think im lucky though, my 20 years as an avionics technician has given me some more patience for learning and troubleshooting systems
[21:57] <tomreyn> the easiest way to install ubuntu server with raid0 is to use the ubuntu server installer and do just that
[21:57] <oran> if im able to pick it up good enough on my server rig, Ill gladly switch my overkill main gaming rig over too
[21:57] <morganu> wow, I thought I was on #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <oran> heey tom
[21:57] <oran> thanks for all the help this past weekend getting this installed
[21:57] <morganu> np rock on. I have never seen this is .. been over a decade.
[21:58] <tomreyn> you're welcome, oran.
[21:58] <morganu> lol. not so holy are you, sysops. We appreciate you. No crit.
[21:58] <IntelCore> why no version 22.04 lts available ?
[21:59] <oran> tom do you have any advice for setting up my nvme raid array on this kubuntu 22.04 install?
[21:59] <sarnold> IntelCore: 22.04 will be offered to 20.04 users when 22.04.1 is released
[21:59] <IntelCore> make me down a 22.04.0  ?
[21:59] <IntelCore> iso online as download
[22:00] <sarnold> or use do-release-upgrade -d
[22:00] <IntelCore> yes it aborted
[22:01] <tomreyn> oran: i already gave it to you above ;)
[22:01] <oran> oh, I missed that message
[22:01] <IntelCore> four months?
[22:01] <oran> I dont want to move to ubuntu server yet
[22:01] <oran> im to chicken
[22:02] <oran> too
[22:02] <tomreyn> oran: oh, well, moving from an existing installation to a raid is more difficult
[22:02] <oran> no i dont mean for my boot drive for now
[22:02] <oran> just my storage for now
[22:03] <tomreyn> oran: oh so you have three or more storage devices then?
[22:03] <oran> I have 2 860 evo's 2 crucial 1tb nvme's, and 2 wtb wdblacks
[22:03] <oran> I usually run them in 3 different raid 0's
[22:04] <oran> right now i just want to do the 2 nvmes in raid 0
[22:04] <oran> are they 860 or 960 evos
[22:04] <oran> i dont remember, they are old
[22:05] <IntelCore> from Ubuntu 21.10:
[22:05] <IntelCore>     Upgrades to 22.04 LTS are currently not enabled (due a bug with snapd and update-notifier) but will be in the next couple of days
[22:06] <tomreyn> oran: here's how you can create a software raid with mdadm https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup
[22:06] <oran> cool thanks again tomreyn
[22:06] <IntelCore> so, right.. 8/4/22.. you get LTS
[22:08] <IntelCore> just last time, got a 20.04.0 then got 20.04.01
[22:08] <oran> how do i know if I have a kernal from the 4.x series
[22:09] <IntelCore> but, you can get the iso..huh?
[22:09] <tomreyn> oran: unmae -r    or    cat /proc/version
[22:11] <tomreyn> IntelCore: i'm having difficulties understanding what you're asking. which ubuntu version are you meaning to upgrade from? i understand that you want to upgrade to 22.04.
[22:12] <IntelCore> unfair -  I wanted to check out one of my systems today so updated 20.04 to 21.10 then updated 21.10 to 22.04
[22:12] <jhutchins> oran: uname -a
[22:12] <oran> Ty J
[22:13] <IntelCore> 20.04 lts to 22.04 lts
[22:13] <oran> https://termbin.com/xojnv   https://termbin.com/8h9l  is it the #42?
[22:14] <oran> look tomreyn, I remembered the termbin thing you taught me haha im not completely hopeless
[22:14] <oran> just mostly
[22:15] <tomreyn> oran: :) well done. pasting a single line is okay, though. #42 is the patch / build number (i'm not sure these are the correct terms, someone managing debian packages will know the proper terms to use).
[22:16] <tomreyn> oran: to see the kernel packages installed (those you can choose from on the grub menu): apt list --installed linux-image*
[22:16] <tomreyn> oran: you'll also see the 42 there
[22:16] <tomreyn> (as well as the 39)
[22:16] <oran> hmm
[22:17] <oran> i didnt past it  lol looked up if it was |& or | nc and then typed it.  the text immediately following what ever "|" is called is what I forgot.  But I remembered | termbin.com 9999
[22:18] <tomreyn> oran: the actual information you were looking for is the 5.15(.0-39), though
[22:18] <oran> oooh
[22:18] <oran> does that mean that as long as it is higher than 4.x it shoudl be ok?
[22:19] <oran> well let me rephrase
[22:19] <oran> the wiki says you need a 4.x kernal for raid setup, so im assuming then that 5.15 being higher ( newer?) is acceptable
[22:20] <tomreyn> | is a pipe, & is called ampersand. combining those in the bash shell casued the standard error output channel to be appended to the standard out output channel, and the combination of these to be piped into the following command.
[22:21] <oran> I understood most of that.  I have to learn more of the linux lingo before I can grasp it all
[22:21] <tomreyn> oran: i guess the raid.wiki.kernel.org wiki is old enouhg to have missed that we've since reached kernel 5.x. but you'll be fine with this.
[22:21] <oran> cool thanks
[22:22] <sarnold> so long as it's talking about 2.6 or newer..
[22:25] <oran> can i run apt-get install mdadm from konsole or do i need to reboot and do it from grub
[22:26] <sarnold> any terminal
[22:26] <sarnold> grub won't know what apt-get is :)
[22:26] <oran> ahh
[22:26] <oran> do i need to sudo
[22:29] <sarnold> yes, administrative operations require administrative privileges
[22:30] <oran> got it, I did have to sudo, and I also had to not screw up and use = instead of -
[22:32] <tomreyn> oran: yes, you need to run apt-get (or apt) with sudo to "install" (some other apt actions do not require sudo). that's because it needs the ability to make system-wide changes, by installing software.
[22:33] <oran> understood.  going to reboot be back in a minute
[22:35] <oran> back
[22:37] <tomreyn> hopefully you didn't think you needed to reboot due to installing a new software package. ;-)
[22:37] <oran> no I isntalled a bunch of updates earlier and it told me to reboot but I didnt
[22:38] <oran> I figured might as well do it now since I installed that aswell
[22:38] <oran> the software center had a bunch of updates
[22:40] <tomreyn> oh alright
[22:48] <oran> just got gparted too
[22:55] <Bashing-om> oran: Be careful and mindful with gparted - there is a reason the installer removes it from the default install :D
[22:55] <oran> hmm really
[22:55] <oran> I only remember it from waay back in 2015 when I last tried to go to linux from windows
[22:55] <oran> my dad swore by it so i just downloaded it
[22:57] <Bashing-om> oran: one does not operate on a mounted file system - moving target. gparted is available on the live environment media.
[22:58] <oran> be back in a minute, meathead pup needs to go out
[22:58] <sarnold> haha doggy
[23:22] <oran> Out of "play with the server" time for the day, be back soon, take care and thanks for the help everyone.
[23:23] <DOGEMEMEGOD_D> hi
[23:24] <DOGEMEMEGOD_D> is there a way to drag a drop a url from chrome to the desktop so it creates a shortcut?
[23:25] <oerheks> yes
[23:25] <oerheks> not to drop, but save as> filemanager opens > other location > computer > desktop
[23:27] <BrooklyNite> hello
[23:28] <Doktur> hello
[23:29] <BrooklyNite> hi ... havent been on IRC in over a decade
[23:29] <Unit193> I haven't figured out how to leave IRC, I've been stuck here for over a decade. :(
[23:29] <Doktur> what's irc?
[23:29] <enigma9o7[m]> Does that mean we're in for a super hard question?
[23:30] <rob0> Unit193: ikr?
[23:30] <enigma9o7[m]> The first time you use IRC in ten years and you join the ubuntu support channel, it's gotta be something super hard....
[23:30] <BrooklyNite> lmao ... are the usenet newsgroups still around?
[23:31] <enigma9o7[m]> Yes, usenet still exists.
[23:31] <oerheks> Unit193, sadly we cannot do the magic to show date of registering
[23:31] <BrooklyNite> nope ... just was playing with HexChat client for the first time, just to see what was out there .... i was a follower of #2600 back in the day
[23:31] <oerheks> anyway , welcome BrooklyNite to ubuntu support.
[23:32] <Unit193> oerheks: It's not quite accurate for me, but check /ns info on OFTC.
[23:32] <Unit193> BrooklyNite: This is Libera, it's geared towards FOSS projects, much like OFTC is too.  Feel free to check around, /msg alis help list  and happy to have you around.
[23:33] <BrooklyNite> thanks for the welcome ... i'll poke around a bit
[23:33] <BrooklyNite> you know since I am here I do have a question
[23:34] <BrooklyNite> so I have a HDHOMERUN cable tuner, and I usually will use VLC media player to view content
[23:35] <BrooklyNite> but I was wondering if its possible to click on a URL via it's web interface ... and have it launch VLC instead of me having to launch VLC manually, currently when I click on any of the video links, the browser I am using in Ubuntu will just start downloading an .MPEG file forever
[23:35] <BrooklyNite> can I view an .MPEG file via Firefox, Chromium or any other Ubuntu based browser?
[23:36] <sarnold> heh I wonder if the browsers still have a "file association" sort of tool
[23:37] <DOGEMEMEGOD_D> oerheks ok thanks
[23:38] <BrooklyNite> yeah i have been scratching my head on that one ... nothing that keeps me up at night
[23:40] <BrooklyNite> I came across this article:  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Formats/Containers
[23:41] <BrooklyNite> but they don't show any browser compatibility for MPEG specifically
[23:41] <sarnold> https://caniuse.com/?search=mpeg  maybe?
[23:44] <oerheks> maybe your hd stream is drm protected?
[23:46] <BrooklyNite> nah ... hmm i just did some checking and it appears that the following browser available via the Ubuntu store works: Midori https://astian.org/en/midori-browser/
[23:50] <BrooklyNite> Apparently "Gnome Web" also works .... just doesn't work with Firefox or Chrome ... weird ... playing ".MPEG" works with Midori and Gnome Web
[23:50] <BrooklyNite> learn something new every day