[01:53] <nathaniel> what is this place/ never used hexchat before
[01:56] <nathaniel> ahh ok i read the details. this is why linus is better than windows. im gonna head on out. thanks for makingt this place for us 
[12:47] <rinzewind> Would it be good to modify the topic to make it clear that people that enter here should ask their questions directly and wait, instead of asking to ask?
[18:44] <PeGaSuS> I'm tempted to say that 99% of the users that join barely read the topic..
[23:29] <FurretUber> I got a new computer and now I'm getting duplicated network icons 100% of the time on the xfce4-panel systray
[23:31] <Unit193> If you `killall /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0` do the panel plugins disappear, and nm-applet correct itself?  If you terminate nm-applet then start it again, does that fix it?
[23:32] <FurretUber> Using the killall command, then only the icon that would be on the statusnotifier appears
[23:33] <Unit193> \o/
[23:33] <Unit193> ...Yes I know this isn't a solution.
[23:33] <FurretUber> To test restarting the nm-applet, I would have to log out and log in to try
[23:33] <Unit193> `killall nm-applet`, Alt+F2 nm-applet
[23:33] <FurretUber> Let me try it
[23:34] <FurretUber> Logged in again, two icons again, now I'll try restarting the nm-applet
[23:35] <FurretUber> Killing and starting nm-applet again also makes it have only one icon
[23:42] <FurretUber> I promise I'll set up an IRC server somewhere to avoid disconnecting all the time. How reliable is to go with... "undocumented" behavior on nm-applet to stop the duplicated icon?
[23:43] <Unit193> LP 1873236
[23:43] <Unit193> The general recommendation is to make it have a startup delay.
[23:45] <FurretUber> By its source code, it has the option "--indicator". When I use it, then the icon only appears on the statusnotifier section of the systray
[23:51] <Unit193> That...shouldn't happen, Ubuntu made that the default.  Unless they screwed it up?