[00:15] I have an Intel i5-4590 with a 14TB drive and 8gb ram - any thoughts on what to use it for? [00:17] download youtube vids. yt-dlp [00:17] for backup incase internet goes out [00:18] have that alreay - also have plex [00:22] maybe build an NFT store - make a coin (eth style) and ipfs? [00:23] I mean, if you want to contribute and have the bandwidth, run a tor relay? Or a tor bridge? Just not a tor exit. [00:23] Some others would say slap kodi on it and have a media server. [00:23] use it as a honeypot [00:26] honeypot is dangerous advice. can be illegal. also this all totally OT :) [00:27] How much space does one need to be an ubuntu mirror? [00:27] a few TB per editition, depending how much you want to mirror [00:28] tank/mirror/ubuntu 3,3T [00:28] that would be full ? [00:28] yes [00:28] without cdimages and so on [00:28] only the archive [00:28] Make sure you have enough disk space. The Ubuntu archive, as of 2021-07-01, uses about: [00:28] 1.5TB of disk space for the Ubuntu package archive. [00:28] 23GB for Ubuntu release CD images. [00:29] 1.5T is not enough :D [00:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors [00:29] ah sorry [00:29] its 1.8TB [00:29] oher [00:30] so 1.5 is not far off [00:30] got 22.04 installed [00:30] still, depends what you mirror,.. universe too? [00:30] yes [00:30] ah [00:31] debian is the same size in case anyone is wondering [00:32] thats kinda to be expected [00:32] have 4 small things to start with fresh 22.04 - failed to load key file , no such file or directory [00:32] if it was significaintly different one would wonder why [00:32] in my bar at bottom === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [00:33] plus, my bar is tiny.. icons tiny [00:40] hmm [00:41] failed to load key file , no such file or directory .. pastebin an apt update run ? [00:41] post install update [00:42] tomboy app [00:42] nautilus.desktop [00:42] one for firefox.desktop [00:44] install said it had found 1 thing broken, proceeded fine, wifi went out twice, but it's wired [00:44] had no mary - speech either [00:45] my firefox from desktop ran fast 'nuff [00:46] can I get the terminal history or get at what it did? [00:46] not sudo commands, there is dpkg logs, and journalctl [00:46] ya journal..ty [00:50] clean journal [01:00] ? [01:00] help [01:06] say what you need [01:07] a person can help [01:07] i need you intelcore [01:07] i need you to love me [01:07] as only a brother in Christ can love [01:07] bye, I'm fix my install [01:08] carnophage2, keep the channel free for ubuntu support, thanks. [01:08] absolutely, pardon me. excuse me, my bad. for real, sorry. [01:09] just horsin' around a little, i got you. my bad. === five611 is now known as five61 [01:43] i have this mp3 player that i connect to my pc and its like nothing it being connected to it [01:44] im trying to see how i can access it to eather erase everything or listen whats on it === five618 is now known as five61 [02:01] Well, usually those are just "mass storage mode" which when you plug in appears similar to a usb flash drive and usually fat32 formatted.... and sometimes they use MTP like a smartphone [02:02] sometimes you have to set something on the device itself to file transfer or MTP mode, otherwise it just charges [02:02] (as a security feature so if you plug into some random port to charge, they cant see your files) [02:03] What happens when you plug it into your pc, jadenlian? [02:12] enigma9o7[m]:nothing doesnt show anything [02:12] and hav eyou looked thru the deivce menus, make sure you dont have to enable transfer mode? with phones you have to do that every single time you plug in as security, and some mp3 players the same [02:14] `fdisk -l` to see if its listed [02:14] its an mp3 player my cousin brought back from a county and he said that they had to plug it in pc there every 14 days to revalidate and when he got here and the timer ran out when i turn it on it only says to plug it in the pc \ [02:16] If its there under fdisk -l, you can try to mount it. If you dont understand what you see, share it on a pastebin.... [02:17] ill use pastebin give me a sec [02:17] i mean `sudo fdisk -l` [02:18] and letter l, not number one [02:20] i used termbin [02:20] https://termbin.com/zj17 [02:22] i dont see it there. all those loop devices i believe are cuz of snap. and your only real drive is your real drive. hmmmm bummer. [02:23] is that thing properly charged? [02:24] its charging from the pc right now and its alredy fully charged\ [02:26] i actually opened the other day to get any memory card and it has one but its on purposely soldered to the mp3 player [02:27] so i guess something in that memory prevents the mp3 from being detected [02:28] or a simple usb2/usb3(blue) thingy ? [02:28] use a black port. [02:29] whats a black port [02:29] else, yes it is toast, if it does not play by itself too. [02:29] usb2 = black, plastic inside [02:30] if the memory plastic is black or blue? [02:32] when i try to access one of the option on the mp3 it says "please connect to kios for authorize use" [02:32] but its working [02:32] its just that the pc doesnt detect it [02:37] seems its got some fancy bios that doesnt allow direct access to storage. WIthout hardware hacking, you won't get much further. [02:40] so just give it up or where can i get something to make it behave [02:41] jadenlian: If it just has a soldered memory card, I'd take a chance with a soldering iron and see if I could get the thing off. If you're lucky, it'll just be a FAT32 or similar file system with a bunch of MP3s plopped on it, maybe with a bit of folder organization. If you're unlucky, it'll have a proprietary file system, hardware format, or DRM protection at which point you're pretty much sunk. Also, this may damage the data on the card [02:41] if it is proprietary but looks like a common card. [02:42] (For instance, if it looks like an SD card but the contacts are switched around, plugging it into your system might end up wiring the Power lines of the system to the Data lines of the card which could caused problems.) [02:46] jadenlian: Does it store user files, or is it preloaded with a bunch of music that the user has to pay a subscription to retain access to or something? [02:46] i find a way to get the memory card of the body of the mp3 and then ill plug the mp3 with no card on an old pc to see what happens [02:46] music files [02:47] If it holds data that the user legally owns, I would suspect that DRM protection probably isn't there. [02:47] (Er, legally has a perpetual license to, if you want to get technical.) [02:48] he said when he gets it brand new when you turn it on the first thing you see is your name and then the mp3 options for music video and that stuff but its empty you have to buy each individual songs for 1.6 each [02:49] Skimmed the story here. IMO, he got scammed. [02:50] jadenlian: Oh. That would make sense of why you're having a hard time getting data off of it - it's probably designed to keep users from copying the songs and redistributing them. In that case you really might hit a DRM roadblock, which pretty much leaves you in the lurch legally, and possibly technically too. [02:50] Buy a song, and then you have to validate every 14 days? That's just weird. [02:51] as soon as buy to keep using it every 14 days it locks up and you have to connect it to their pc [02:51] Probably 100% incompatible with Ubuntu, and, therefore, off-topic here, I hate to say. [02:51] (FWIW, you could skip getting into the MP3 player entirely, install an adblocker into Firefox, and then just use YouTube. Bam, music and videos, for free, no ads, no wonky MP3 player to hack, and no soldering involved.) [02:53] ok bye bye over (2000 songs * 1.6) youtube it is [02:55] Maybe also see if he can get his money back for the useless MP3 player. [02:55] +1 Youtube [02:57] ok [02:57] hi how to install libcudart.so ? [02:58] will i need to install the entire cuda? https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&Distribution=Ubuntu&target_version=22.04&target_type=runfile_local [02:58] Guest44: if it's outside of the official Ubuntu repos, it's not supported here. [02:58] where to ask? [02:58] You'd have to ask nvidia. [02:59] not on irc [02:59] They have forums. [02:59] oh they are here too [02:59] my bad [03:00] sudo apt install nvidia-cuda-dev [03:00] It is in ubuntu. [03:00] Yeah, I was about to answer that, but he posted a link to the Nvidia repo, enigma9o7[m]. [03:01] Guest44: You want nvidia-cuda-dev [03:01] nvidia-cuda-toolkit ? [03:01] no? [03:01] No. [03:01] it is easier to use the deb method from that guide. [03:01] whats nvidia-cuda-toolkit ? [03:01] sudo apt install nvidia-cuda-dev will do the trick. [03:01] Straight from the Ubuntu repos, no need to install the Nvidia repos. [03:01] Eickmeyer,+1 [03:01] ny idea what nvidia-cuda-toolkit installs? [03:02] any [03:02] No idea. [03:02] However, it does not contain the file you're looking for. [03:02] apt-file search libcudart.so came back with nvidia-cuda-dev. [03:03] thats the nvcc compiler. you can get info by "apt show nvidia-cuda-toolkit" [03:05] oh [03:05] thx [03:05] and whats the link i posted? [03:06] it seems the entire cuda toolsuit [03:06] The link you posted is the Nvidia developer repository. It's not supported here. [03:06] ok [03:08] thanks [03:10] did that package solve your problem? cuz unless you're running appimages, you really shouldn't have missing "so" files, they should be installed automatically as dependency of whatever needed it.... [03:11] or i guess building stuff from source, duh. developers. === vai is now known as Jari-- === kaiseisei1 is now known as kaiseisei [03:33] enigma9o7[m]: Yeah, people needing to do deep learning/AI typically need that stuff, but that's the extent of my knowledge. [03:39] Hi, I'm planning to install Ubuntu. Could anyone please tell how much should I allocate for root and home partition? I don't want to lose my files when the OS get corrupted. [03:41] I have enabled dual boot [03:43] more is better, sa 50 gb for root, and the rest for home? swap can use a swapfile, instead of partition [03:43] c/sa/say [03:44] and or maybe a 2nd partition for data/backups? [03:44] go wild! [03:44] Why do you expect the OS partition to get corrupted? [03:52] oerheks: thanks [03:59] rob0: nvidia drivers caused my current installation to not boot and all of my files are in home directory of the same partition. I'm not sure how to save my home directory during new reinstall === RaGE_Syria6 is now known as RaGE_Syria [04:24] Where would someone find old, EOL versions of Kubuntu? I know that EOL Ubuntu releases can be found at the old releases website, but for some reason it seems that Kubuntu releases just vanish into the void once they go EOL. In particular, I really like Kubuntu, and wanted to get Kubuntu 14.04 (which is long dead) since it came with a version of GIMP that has features that were removed in later versions. I am fully aware of the dangers of [04:24] EOL software and would be running it in a non-Internet-connected VM. Official sources would be better. [04:25] i find not even torrents. [04:29] well .. http://kubuntu.ru/download gives the official torrent [04:29] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/focal/release/kubuntu-20.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [04:29] grinn, thanks russian friends! [04:29] The .torrent link gives me a 404 Not Found error :( [04:29] and ,, dead [04:29] yeah === Ricardus_ is now known as Ricardus [04:32] My first ever distro was KXStudio 14.04, which was Kubuntu 14.04 but made into something like what Ubuntu Studio is now. [04:32] arraybolt3[m]: https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/ [04:32] TechMonk, nope, no 20.04.3 point release [04:33] Close, but stops at 11.10 and doesn't have anything later. [04:33] arraybolt3[m]: click releases.. [04:33] arraybolt3[m], might be able to get there by installing ubuntu from the old releases site and then installing the kde desktop package [04:33] i hoped the torrent would be still alive.. but even internet archive gives a dead page [04:34] arraybolt3[m]: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu-old/ [04:35] arraybolt3[m]: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/ [04:35] Dead link. [04:35] arraybolt3[m]: try mine [04:35] Maik: Stops at 11.10. [04:36] Maik: look at mine, i posted that one already. [04:37] TechMonk: ah, didn't notice that, had to scroll back [04:37] TechMonk, still no 20.04.3 [04:37] aHA! Internet archive had it. [04:37] if you want gimp or whatever from 14.04, it doesnt have to be Kubuntu, ubuntu is the same. [04:37] arraybolt3[m]: I was about to go there next. lol [04:38] enigma9o7: True, but I like Kubuntu 14.04. It had a look and feel to it that was really nice. [04:39] Still, Internet Archive isn't an official source, but it's a source, and it's a supposedly safe source, so it's something. [04:40] arraybolt3[m]: try to find the md5sum hashes. [04:40] for when https fails [04:40] arraybolt3[m]: slow downloads but it worked from Internet Archive, hahaha. [04:40] They're there. You just have to hunt around in the timeline. [04:41] Yeah, i found it, by navigating the calendar. [04:41] Good job slueths. [04:42] OK, that'll give me a way to do it for people in the future who hit this problem! Thank you! I was going to get Kubuntu, but at the last minute, I decided I was being wasteful to download Kubuntu 14.04 when I had Ubuntu 14.04 already, so I canceled it LOL. But hey, problem solved, that should help us all help others. Thank you all again! [04:44] yeah, there are kids across the world with very little bandwidth, by saving it yourself it may help them [04:46] arraybolt3[m]: http://mirror.datto.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ [04:47] Nice, but possibly scary source. [04:57] hola [04:57] como estan [05:01] i'm noticing that, on 22.04, i need to specify the MAC address of bridge interfaces in netplan configs [05:01] here's my config with the line in question highlighted: https://pastebin.com/raw/0TWQHVvQ [05:02] on 20.04, the bridge interface seemed to automatically clone the mac address of (in my case) eno1 [05:02] but on 22.04, eno1 comes up with a random mac [05:02] is this expected? A bug? === descent is now known as whiteongreyX === diskin_ is now known as diskin === kaiseisei1 is now known as kaiseisei === Bencraft1419 is now known as Bencraft141 === mcs3ss2_ is now known as mcs3ss2 [06:43] hi all, if anyone knows, is there an irc channel for debian? === diskin is now known as Guest8460 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [06:47] fireup: #debian, or #debian on OFTC. [06:47] If you're using testing or unstable, you'll need to join #debian-next on OFTC though. [06:49] Unit193: Thank you my friend === igorkovalenko is now known as i-garrison [07:17] hi [07:17] what is i2p? [07:22] hello? [07:23] hi jess [07:36] hi everyone [07:36] i need your help about ubuntu when i setting nvim with lua [07:37] i cant found file packer [07:38] hi Dr nulldoot! I don't know what any of that means, but it sounds like a lua issue, not a ubuntu issue. [07:39] yes abut lua in ubuntu [07:39] i installed packer.nvim [07:39] and my config [07:40] tree --> .config/nvim [07:40] there are have: init.lua and folder lua [07:40] in folder lua i have three folder options, keybindings, plugins [07:40] Still sounds like a lua issue. [07:41] why [07:41] how can i fix that [07:43] this is my packer.nivm [07:43] ls ~/.local/share/nvim/site/pack/packer/opt/packer.nvim/ [07:44] https://github.com/wbthomason/packer.nvim/issues/844 [07:44] Issue 844 in wbthomason/packer.nvim "After adding Packer & Lua file in Plugins, I get permission errors." [Closed] [07:44] im try but not working [08:16] Hi! Anyone run maas in a cloud vm and just point your bare metal hosts/networks to it (ie dhcp relay host via a vpc connection)? Any reason that wouldn't work? Trying to move maas off a single single bare metal host and hopefully add some HA at the same time. [08:42] greybored: there's #ubuntu-cloud and #ubuntu-server, as well as #maas [08:48] Hello guys. Is there any udev/usbhid guru here ? I got some udev rules to limit usb devices (keyboard, mouse & mass storage), yesterday I updated from 5.13.0[...]-48 to -51, and now my keyboard & mouse aren't detected as usbhid devices until I unplug & replug them. Booting under -48 isn't better [08:49] If somebody got an idea, thanks a lot [08:52] and ... you're not planning on sharing "some rules"? [08:55] xMopx: try #netplan (and reading their changelogs) [08:55] tomreyn, oh sorry, I forget to tell the most interesting. Rules are ok, the problem seems to be on the usbhid driver or something like this. When I boot, I log in with a PS/2 keyboard (while my usb keyboard & mouse are plugged), I lsusb -t and I can see both keyboard & mouse are detected BUT not identified with the DRIVER=usbhid. If I unplug & replug them, then lsusb -t shows the usbhid driver and they are working [08:58] does journalctl have any clue on why these devices are not claimed by usbhid during boot then? [08:59] I'll check. I'm not very friend with journalctl :) But I'll check right now [09:13] Hello [09:13] tomreyn, ok so, in logs I can see my devices aren't authorized (since the kernel update). So I disabled my udev rules file to try without any limitation, and keyboard & mouse are still not working, still don't get the "Driver=usbhid" in lsusb -t, until I unplug & replug them [09:15] I have a new laptop and a fresh installation of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, but the Firefox was acting strange when on an external display. Turning off hardware acceleration fixed the issue, but now I'm wondering if there is something wrong with my GPU drivers? Does anybody have some ideas? [09:21] R4v3n: that's all the suggestions i had. without more details, such as error messages and logs, it'll be difficult. [09:21] well it seems i'm not the first with this kernel : https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/usb-keyboard-and-mouse-not-detected-at-boot-with-kernel-5-13-4-5-12-11-is-ok-4175698287/ [09:24] looks like this could fix my issue https://dgpu-docs.intel.com/installation-guides/ubuntu/ubuntu-focal.html but I don't want to mess my system [09:24] Guest9795: you'd need to tell us more about your graphics hardware, the drivers being used, the graphics server (Xorg or wayland) being used, and the "acting strange" [09:26] I have Mesa Intel® Xe Graphics and using wayland, the acting strange is like scroll bar is freezing, can't swap browser tabs, no animation when I try to select text with mouse cursor and things like that [09:28] !paste [09:28] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:29] why the hell I have to create an account to use pastebin? :( [09:29] *-display [09:29] description: VGA compatible controller [09:29] product: TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] [09:29] vendor: Intel Corporation [09:29] physical id: 2 [09:29] bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 [09:29] huh? [09:29] There are lots of pastebins, you don't have to use one in particular. [09:34] Guest9795: lspci -knnv | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:34] tomreyn https://termbin.com/cew3 [09:37] Guest9795: i can't find existing bug reports against ubuntu kernels or the X graphics driver with this hardware ID (8086:9a49) or "Iris Xe" [09:38] tomreyn I mean everything is working perfectly fine, it's just firefox can't handle hardware acceleration, which is supposed to use computer's graphics processor [09:38] i searched launchpad, you may want to repeat this search on a generic web search engine [09:39] this will probably be related to the snap container somehow [09:39] but you seemed to say there was also a correlation to the external display. [09:40] hmm it might be, I couldn't even use gnome extensions which I have been using for years because of the snap [09:40] you mean the gnome extensions web page in firefox? [09:41] yep the shell integration doesn't work with snap https://askubuntu.com/questions/1403688/although-gnome-shell-integration-extension-is-running-native-host-connector-is [09:41] well I experience the graphic freezes only when using external display [09:42] I have Dell XPS 13" and Lenovo ultra-wide 34" display [09:43] actual graphics freezes? then you should have intel graphics driver (i915) fifo (?) underrun messages in journalctl. [09:44] do you see such? [09:44] jorunalctl -eb [09:47] nope all looks good https://termbin.com/dk3n & https://termbin.com/2bb4 [09:49] it looks like I am no able to understand hwo to get firefox or any browder running using X11Forw...since I get X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication...what I need to adopt to get this trivial thing running [09:49] xterm/xclock running fine === routebee_ is now known as routebee [09:51] Guest9795: i'm not sure this massive SECCOMP message spam (before you closed, then restarted, firefox 40 minutes ago) is expected. [09:51] Guest9795: also, is this something you set or is this just by default? firefox_firefox.desktop[162109]: ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment. [09:52] okay, the latter is apparently stnandard with the snap [09:53] that is probably when I turned off the hardware acceleration after I experienced issues this morning, then I joined here to ask for long term fix [09:54] it might be best to report a new bug there [09:55] well I can do that, but I can't be the only one with intel GPU and snap firefox [09:57] I should probably try installing another browser or run some benchmark tool to see how the GPU behaves under stress === oem is now known as matrix === matrix is now known as SOLOONE [11:23] Hi, in Jammy, group ssh has been renamed _ssh? Is there an explanation why? === oem is now known as porn === porn is now known as Guest5341 [11:42] Ubuntu patches some GNOME software right? why do they do this instead of creating extensions? [11:42] Xeroine: because not everything can be done with extensions [11:45] ah okay [11:45] Xeroine: if you're concerned about modularity, then GNOME is probably not the right choice [12:25] Hi all === Guest5341 is now known as PORNO [13:30] hi [13:31] anybody there? [13:54] yep [15:01] did you have a question @chan? [15:16] BedMan: they left within a minute of joining. [15:20] why sudo do-release-upgrade upgrades to 20.04LTS not 22.04LTS [15:21] you can't directly upgrade from 18 [15:21] 04 to 22.04 [15:21] so i have to upgrade again..? from 18 lol [15:22] you don't have to yet [15:22] 20.04 is still supported [15:22] so it 18 [15:22] no, because 20.04.1 is not out yet, you will need to use the -d option [15:22] err 22.04.1 [15:23] even 18 is supported [15:23] well. question answered [15:25] !ltsupgrades | blomberg [15:25] hmmm... [15:26] !ltsupgrade [15:26] Regular upgrades from the last but one LTS release to the latest LTS release, 22.04 "Jammy Jellyfish", are enabled days or weeks after 22.04.1 is released. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d [15:26] why is 22 LTS not available on do-release-upgrade?? when it's there on the site [15:27] blomberg: read the factoid [15:27] Maik:which? 04 is april not is june [15:28] again, read the factoid [15:28] you mean the bots message? [15:28] what else..... [15:28] ok [15:28] but -d is not lts? [15:29] it is === LjL^ is now known as LjL [15:29] otherwise it wouldn't be in the factoid [15:29] officially 22.04.1 is the LTS release [15:29] not 22.04.0 [15:29] not true, 22.04.1 is just a point realease [15:30] which will be out in August [15:30] I was told otherwise by 2 people [15:30] by whom? [15:30] pretty sure one was sarnold. don't remember the second [15:31] ravage: if you have 22.04 LTS installed and keep it up to date it will get to the point releases automatically, no need to re-install [15:31] so point releases happen every month [15:31] blomberg: no [15:32] i never said i want or need to reinstall [15:32] blomberg: search for the release schedule and you'll know [15:33] ravage: 22.04 IS a LTS release. [15:33] well. I'm too lazy to look up logs from months ago [15:33] let's just drop it [15:34] no problem [15:34] it was my understanding too [15:34] i was just told otherwise [15:34] what's the time period cycle of point releases then [15:35] blomberg: the upgrade path to 22.04 will be opened a few days or weeks after the first point release [15:36] blomberg: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906 [15:36] 4-5 months [15:36] it depends [15:36] for 22.04 its scheduled in august [15:36] 4th August [15:37] which already has been told several times [15:37] luna_: thanks! [15:37] np [15:38] if -d is lts then why it's called development [15:39] ok its' point release? [15:39] so i have to upgrade twice once to lts and then to point release? i am a bit confused [15:40] Oooh the pain! [15:42] blomberg: the -d / development part refers to the fact that the LTS upgrade path has not been 'released' yet. and once you're on 22.04.*, upgradign to a point release is as easy as running sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [15:44] ok i can -d safely then === Polo is now known as polo [15:47] tomreyn: aren't you just gradually updating your system to reach the point-release status? once you're on an lts release, you just need to keep updating your system, and it will reach .{1..6} seamlessly. the first one is just for people wanting to upgrade to the new lts from the older release [15:47] apt upgrade upgrades to a point release but it gets release only every 4-5months ? so the system packages update every 4-5months? it's that slow? i like not having updates though - annoying [15:49] a point release will mostly update the ISO files. if you just update your packages you get to the state of the point release gradually [15:49] blomberg: no. read my reply above. and this: https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [15:50] ^ what ravage says [15:50] KBar: you're right, too, no need to *full-*upgrade [15:51] (i explained this part incorrectly) [15:51] blomberg: new lts is released. users on older releases cant upgrade to it yet for variety of reasons. only new installations are allowed. the moment the first point release comes out, upgrades from older releases become allowed. [15:52] blomberg: but those who installed the new lts right from the start will get to the point release by gradually updating (aka sudo apt upgate && sudo apt upgrade) their system every day or whatever [15:52] ravage's explanation is on point. also there was a wiki article explaining this but i cant seem to find it [15:54] blomberg: so if you're on 20.04 now, you will be able to upgrade to 22.04.1 in august in one big upgrade. no need for two upgrades (i.e. 20.04 > 22.04 > 22.04.1) as you seem to have misunderstood. you skip the middle part because you're not allowed to upgrade just yet [15:57] ahh [16:00] after august if i had 18.04 can i directly go to 22.04 upon sudo do-release-upgrade? [16:00] if not i'd have just preferred to download the iso 22.04 [16:01] i thought i would go from 18 to 22 , but today i was unhappy that i got 20.04 [16:01] I don't think you can skip LTS releases [16:05] you have to upgrade from 18 to 20 and the to 22 [16:06] HI! in a previous install I figured out a solution to the bug where chrome or firefox can not browse because the wrong file manager is set . Anyone else recently report this bug and know the link to the correct solution? [16:06] blomberg no you can't, you have to upgrade LTS to LTS. [16:09] transhumanist: explain the solution you did exactly to the volunteers, and many someone might know an existing bug ID [16:09] I saved the damn bug in my email for future use but cant locate it again [16:10] basically firefox or chrome when attempting to browse for files only sees one directory and doesnt see updates to the directory and can not browse higher directories [16:11] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1285711 [16:11] Mozilla bug 1285711 in Core "Firefox does not use default file manager" [Normal, Unconfirmed] [16:12] I just dont know what the real fix is fix is [16:12] transhumanist: obviously turn firefox into a firefix. :D sorry i have no idea === Mibixy is now known as Mibix [16:17] Hello guys [16:17] :-) [16:17] sparenica: hello and welcome to the Ubuntu support channel. ask away! [16:43] If it was only affecting firefox, I'd guess it was a bug related to snap packaging, not firefox itself. But since you said it affects chrome too, that doesnt seem likely, assuming you're using the debian package straight from google (which afaik is the only way to get it anyway).... [16:45] enigma9o7[m]: theoretically there is a flatpak [16:45] hello [16:45] me real hacker [16:45] who just installed ubuntu [16:45] and just chilling with KDE plasma [16:45] and not doing anything [16:46] using cmatrix [16:46] ok dont hack me [16:46] anyone there? [16:46] !enter [16:46] why [16:46] Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. [16:46] on point releases: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PointReleaseProcess [16:46] Ah I stand corrected, I see there is indeed a flatpak. [16:46] is there a support issue in all those lines? [16:46] okay okay [16:46] anyways bye [16:46] me going [16:47] a point release of the server ISO will container packages updated at that point, as well as the rolled kernel hwe kernel [16:47]