[00:07] <CeeClear> Ollo
[00:11] <Guest4425> hi what does the following mean? runtime/cgo: pthread_create failed: Operation not permitted
[00:11] <Guest4425> SIGABRT: abort
[00:11] <Guest4425> PC=0x7fa02c4dda7c m=0 sigcode=18446744073709551610
[00:11] <Guest4425> looks like some os limitation or docker idk
[00:16] <CeeClear> Looking for advice on a optical Drive that is not burning DVDs
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[00:42] <enigma9o7[m]> need a laser technician
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[03:15] <kamrul> i read somewhere that chromium is is not safe to use it is for developers only for testing things :( , is it true? which browser should i install alongside firefox then?
[03:15] <oerheks> check your sources.
[03:15] <oerheks> lolz
[03:16] <kamrul> i read it in a blog post
[03:16] <oerheks> some find it ugly all they need is a them
[03:16] <oerheks> c/theme
[03:17] <oerheks> if chromium is bad, why is microsoft edge and google chrome based on it?
[03:17] <kamrul> here
[03:17] <kamrul> https://www.cloudwards.net/chromium-review/
[03:18] <oerheks> So?
[03:18] <kamrul> it’s missing some of Chrome’s default features and may suffer from glitches, security holes and other flaw
[03:18] <kamrul> it says it has security holes
[03:20] <oerheks> well, freespeech is oke. just an opinion without proof,... reads like a friday 5 o' clock copy writer
[03:20] <oerheks> no browser is failsafe.
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[03:23] <kamrul> thanks i am switching to chromium
[03:23] <jhutchins> kamrul: If you're looking for a browser that somebody, somewhere, has not posted a screed of hatred or fear about, you're probably out of choices.  Maybe lynx?
[03:24] <kamrul> nah thanks xd
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[06:17] <C0ckGobbLeR> alright
[06:17] <soban> hi
[06:18] <luna> hi
[06:18] <soban> @are you a girl
[06:18] <soban> @luna
[06:18] <luna> nope non binary
[06:19] <soban> i dont understand
[06:19] <soban> @luna are you muslim
[06:20] <luna> nope
[06:20] <soban> can u send best network for fun
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !ot | soban
[06:20] <ubottu> soban: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[06:21] <C0ckGobbLeR> luna: you're a girl who is non binary ?
[06:21] <luna> yeah
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> offtopic is for you too C0ckGobbLeR
[06:21] <soban> oh now i understand
[06:21] <C0ckGobbLeR> lotus what about you, are you a girl too
[06:21] <C0ckGobbLeR> oh I understand
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[07:54] <ice9> how to run apt post hook only if a specific package is upgraded?
[08:03] <pewpeww> Hi, keepassxc browser integration is not working for me. I have installed Keepassxc with snap, and Chrome browser using google's repository (.deb).
[08:05] <KBar> snaps are confined. keepassxc snap probably cant access your chrome's data
[08:08] <pewpeww> It can access everything in my $HOME, so unless I'm missing something it should be able to access whatever it needs..
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[10:30] <Dhjhg678> hello friends
[10:31] <Dhjhg678> I have a question
[10:38] <fhaac> I want to update a package myself beyond what the repos offer. How do I deal with package splitting?
[10:38] <Maik> !ask | Dhjhg678
[10:38] <ubottu> Dhjhg678: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[10:40] <Maik> fhaac: installing software from outside the official repo's is at own risk, not recommended and can't really given support for when thing get wonky.
[10:40] <fhaac> I really really want an updated poppler so I'll update it myself even if I have to compile it myself. I just don't know how to deal with package splitting.
[10:41] <EriC^> what do you mean by package splitting?
[10:42] <Maik> any specific reason why you want to update it?
[10:43] <fhaac> My understanding is with ubuntu (and debian) is that there isn't just poppler, it has libpoppler118 and poppler-glib and poppler-glib-dev etc. I want to update because of the improved font embedding from the may release of poppler that solves a huge problem with non ascii fonts.
[10:43] <EriC^> fhaac: i think when you install it yourself it will go into /local/usr/ and use those dirs intead of the main ones
[10:44] <fhaac> Maybe I should request a backport instead.
[10:48] <fhaac> True EriC^, but if I was to make a deb package it should update over the default installation.
[10:50] <tomreyn> fhaac: you use a higher package version number, or pin your package
[11:21] <tatsumaru2> hey guys, in terminal is there a way to auto-fill file and dir names instead of typing them completely the same way you can press tab to fill the name of someone you want to mention on irc?
[11:21] <tatsumaru2> sometimes there's only one file starting with 01 for example and I'd like to specify it without typing the other 24 characters that precede that
[11:22] <tatsumaru2> s/precede/follow after
[11:23] <murmel> tatsumaru2: autocomplete definitely works.
[11:24] <tatsumaru2> murmel: oh I am stupid it literally works the same way in terminal too
[11:24] <tatsumaru2> Thanks
[12:22] <gvvg> Hi - I have a system running 20.10 and would like to know how to do a dist upgrade - it says "Upgrades to the development release are only available from the latest supported release."
[12:24] <murmel> !eolupgrade
[12:24] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:24] <murmel> gvvg: ^
[12:25] <guiverc[m]> gvvg: Ubuntu 20.10 release-upgraded to 21.04, but that door closed when 21.04 reached EOL so you've missed the intended/supported release-upgrade process.
[12:25] <KBar> +
[12:26] <KBar> i was just gonna say this. i think you're gonna have to wait a little bit until august, when 22.04.1 comes out
[12:26] <KBar> you're gonna be able to upgrade to that lts
[12:27] <yuta> after I updated ubuntu 22.04,firefox doesn't run.
[12:27] <guiverc[m]> KBar: 20.04 can skip non-lts releases & upgrade to 22.04 (or next-available-non-LTS in next cycle); non-LTS cannot though
[12:30] <KBar> 20.04 cannot upgrade to 22.04 just yet
[12:30] <KBar> unless fresh install
[12:31] <yuta> ok
[12:31] <murmel> KBar: it can
[12:31] <yuta> good night
[12:32] <guiverc[m]> You can re-install desktop systems without erasing existing data files, and having manually-installed packages (where available in Ubuntu repositories) auto-reinstalled ... it's what I'd likely do with a 20.10 system  (ie. install 22.04 LTS desktop)...  You re-use existing partition(s) & don't format (esp. /) which triggers this type of 'upgrade via re-install'
[12:34] <murmel> this is definitely not recommended, as it can mess up quite a lot. not formatting /home is quite okay, but / oO
[12:34] <ravage> guiverc[m], you found the bridge i see :)
[12:47] <gvvg> An upgrade from 'groovy' to 'impish' is not supported with this tool.
[12:48] <guiverc[m]> gvvg:  no the Ubuntu-release-upgrader tool supported 20.10 to 21.04 only.
[12:48] <guiverc[m]> as I said before, that upgrade path disappeared when 21.04 went EOL.
[12:48] <gvvg> so I am stuck indefinately unless I do a fresh install?
[12:50] <guiverc[m]> gvvg:  as was stated before by others, you should *release-upgrade* before your release goes EOL, but you have a further few months or in your case until 21.04 reached EOL meaning an extra 6 months after 20.10 reached EOL.   You can (if desktop) do an unclean install as I stated before ; it'd be my choice as I stated ^
[12:50] <guiverc[m]> s/stated before by others/stated before and by others/ ^
[12:50] <gvvg> it's a server no desktop stuff
[12:50] <gvvg> sorry I wasn't quite understanding
[12:51] <guiverc[m]> far more complex; as system directories get wiped (server apps often store confs in sysdirs thus they'll get lost) ... thus clean install is likely your manner as you'll need to restore data (unless desktop systems)
[12:52] <ioria> you could use the old-release repos, but there would be no sense in that
[12:52] <gvvg> and after the extra 6 months it should be possible?
[12:54] <guiverc[m]> gvvg: no... 20.10 reached EOL (https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/06/18/ubuntu-20-10-groovy-gorilla-reaches-end-of-life-on-july-22-2021/)  but you could still release-upgrade your system after that date until 21.04 reached it's EOL (https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/01/21/ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hippo-end-of-life-reached-on-january-20-2022/) which was six months after 20.10 reached EOL...
[12:54] <gvvg> ok thank you very much
[12:55] <murmel> gvvg: as the bot pointed out. it's possible. but very likely it's easier to just reinstall
[13:30] <KBar> sorry, can anybody confirm if the main archive is dead?
[13:30] <KBar> failed to fetch on my end
[13:31] <ravage> there is no such thing as a main archive
[13:32] <ravage> there are many servers involved
[13:32] <ravage> it is possible that one you are trying to reach does not respond right now
[13:32] <KBar> ravage there is
[13:33] <KBar> ravage the one without the prefix is the main one: archive.ubuntu.com
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> no issues on .be
[13:33] <ravage> archive.ubuntu.com ist just a DNS name
[13:33] <ravage> it resolves to many different servers
[13:33] <ravage> possibly also depends on your location
[13:34] <ravage> i see at least 2 in there
[13:34] <ravage> and they both work
[13:34] <KBar> thanks
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> wich country is you KBar
[13:36] <ravage> https://p.haxxors.com/cewjwbj8.txt thats my output. v4 and v6 work
[13:37] <KBar> ravage: it resolves to the same addresses on my end
[13:37] <KBar> i dont live in neither countries
[13:37] <KBar> not even close
[13:37] <ravage> at least the ip spaces belong to canocial and says london
[13:37] <ravage> i did not trace them all
[13:38] <ravage> maybe use a mirror closer to you then
[13:40] <jess> KBar: i just got a failure from trying to upgrade, but i started it again and it worked
[13:40] <KBar> jess: a-ha! so that makes the two of us!
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> glitch in the shell
[13:40] <jess> a very, very wild guess is that one of the IPs in whatever pool is being used is busted
[13:41] <jess> so it's a bit hit & miss
[13:42] <KBar> or it got ddosed
[13:43] <KBar> (classic excuses of gamers)
[13:43] <KBar> well, at least its reachable now. hopefully it stays alive
[13:56] <giulia> hi, I'm using xelatex and I want to use the font "simoncini garamond". I've alway been told "font cannot be found" even if I installed it. Any hint?
[14:29] <oerheks> hi giulia, what guide do you follow for that font?
[14:32] <oerheks> just make sure you run: sudo fc-cache -f -v  # to enable it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
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[16:03] <armin_> I'm a bit confused about theming in Ubuntu. So there's the "Legacy Application" theme which to my understanding works for most applications for now. But how are the new GTK4/libadwaita applications supposed to be themed? Is this impossible now? Ideally, I would like to have a single, consistent theme for everything (Arc in my case). I know not Ubuntu specific but idk where better to ask
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[16:21] <cbreak> armin_: I think the GTK people don't like theming
[16:21] <cbreak> the whole libadwaita stuff is intended to get rid of theming and make everything look uniformish
[16:30] <armin_> Oh no that's bad news. But thanks!
[16:31]  * cbreak switched to kubuntu a few months ago, it's much more configurable
[16:32] <cbreak> armin_: hmm... https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/v1aw6k/themeing_libadwaita_a_tldr/
[16:35] <tanul1989> Hello
[16:35] <KBar> !hi | tanul1989
[16:36] <tanul1989> I have just installed ubuntu server in oracle virtual box. Is there anyway to ping the this VM from host OS using hostname
[16:36] <tanul1989> I have tried with both bridge only and host only adapter
[16:38] <KBar> tanul1989: open your VM manager and press F1
[16:39] <tanul1989> ok.. I am using oracle virtual box on windows. Pressing F1 opening help guide
[16:41] <oerheks> maybe this is your answer too.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1307707/recognising-ubuntu-vm-hostnames-on-my-local-network
[16:42] <oerheks> if not, it can be a windows/virtual box thingy
[16:44] <tanul1989> Thanks for sharing.. sure let me try
[16:46] <basenjis> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Documentation
[16:57] <vector101> is there an easy way to build wayfire for gnome 42 on 22.04
[16:58] <vector101> I kept getting dev after dev conflict
[16:58] <vector101> messed up dpkg and apt cache, had to clone an older image to my ssd
[16:58] <KBar> vector101: use `apt build-dep` or `mk-build-deps`
[16:59] <KBar> vector101: https://github.com/WayfireWM/wayfire/wiki & #wayfire
[16:59] <oerheks> maybe this post give you a clue http://blog.northfield.ws/
[17:00] <oerheks> but it needs a lot of tweaking, good luck!
[17:01] <vector101> what exactly does the build-dep argument trigger
[17:01] <oerheks> build-depends, not so hard to imagine
[17:02] <enigma9o7[m]> it installs the build dependencies (as defined in the package control file)
[17:02] <vector101> it pulls in the dependecies, but does install them
[17:02] <KBar> id say mk-build-deps from devscripts is better
[17:02] <oerheks> i think it gives the same as the 2nd url;
[17:02] <oerheks> sudo apt install git python3-pip pkg-config libwayland-dev autoconf libtool libffi-dev libxml2-dev libegl1-mesa-dev libgles2-mesa-dev libgbm-dev libinput-dev libxkbcommon-dev libpixman-1-dev xutils-dev xcb-proto python-xcbgen libcairo2-dev libglm-dev libjpeg-dev libgtkmm-3.0-dev xwayland
[17:03] <jje> https://github.com/WayfireWM/wf-install can also help ease the pain
[17:03] <KBar> it build all deps in a single deb package. then you just `apt install` it. but to each their own i suppose
[17:04] <KBar> ^ about mk-build-deps
[17:04] <vector101> not so easy when the dev packages are conflicting 3.1  3.2
[17:06] <vector101> for example when I type the apt listed above, it is trying to pull in a ppa for libgdm1 that I removes
[17:07] <vector101> ligbm1 i mean
[17:07] <vector101> libgbm1
[17:07] <enigma9o7[m]> sanity check - you ran sudo apt update after removing the ppa?
[17:07] <vector101> yes always
[17:07] <vector101> I removed the ppa last week
[17:08] <vector101> oibaf
[17:08] <enigma9o7[m]> You must have something still installed from it.
[17:08] <KBar> sounds like you have issues with repos
[17:08] <KBar> double check it
[17:08] <vector101> that too, I changed servers yesterday and it pulled in a whole lot of different updates
[17:09] <KBar> vector101: do you mean you changed mirrors?
[17:09] <vector101> yes
[17:10] <KBar> they're all in sync. i doubt its the issue here
[17:10] <KBar> dont be so sure. check your sources.list
[17:11] <vector101> libsystemd0 , libsystemd-dev , and systemd all were different revisions
[17:11] <oerheks> how did you remove that ppa?
[17:11] <vector101> ppa-purge ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers
[17:12] <oerheks> oh oke
[17:12] <KBar> vector101: `lsb_release -rd` and `apt policy libs...`
[17:14] <vector101> i tried to install the proposal .debs but apt was broken, couldn't trump it
[17:14] <vector101> I even went as far as to download the official debs from 22.04 and dpkg them
[17:14] <KBar> two things: 1) if its not packaged and put in the repos, we cant really help you 2) even if it were, you're building from source, so its your adventure
[17:14] <tanul1989> oerheks, It worked.. I am able to access via hostname.. Thank you so much  :)
[17:15] <oerheks> tanul1989, have fun
[17:15] <vector101> ok, I will journey on
[17:15] <KBar> no fun on windows until you switch fully!
[17:16] <tommy_> how come my system is so much slower after booting with hypervisor on ubuntu???
[17:16] <tommy_> the whole system runs choppy....any ideas would be appreciated
[17:17] <tanul1989> Can I ask one more question but it is related to Azure kubernetes in which I have ubuntu node pool. I know its not the correct forum to ask this but may be someone is aware of the issue as its related to the node image. If you guys allow me to ask ??
[17:18] <oerheks> tommy_, we need more details, what ubuntu, what hypervisor, how much memory
[17:19] <enigma9o7[m]> wow such a preamble, shoulda just asked it and then apologized if someone complained )
[17:19] <oerheks> tanul1989, there is #kubernetes here on #libera too
[17:21] <tanul1989> Oh thanks.. I'll check over there as well. But my question is that the node image version is coming as null in the AKS. Ideally it should show the version of the Node OS.. Has someone faced like this before..
[17:23] <tanul1989> I wanted to update my node os.. But due to this I don't know if my nodes are on latest version or not... When I check via command line it returns null in the json {"nodeImageVersion":null}
[17:24] <KBar> tanul1989: you should probably ask on the relevant channel.
[17:24] <tanul1989> Sure not a problem.. Thanks.. And happy weekend to all  :)
[17:25] <kanefoss> is there a specific launchpad channel? uploaded my first package, and can't get it to show up (doesn't compile?)
[17:28] <tommy_> 22.04 with xen hypervisor and only 8 gigs of ram but only 2gig is being utilized
[17:28] <KBar> kanefoss: #ubuntu-motu if its related to incorporating new packages. or #launchpad for general questions
[17:28] <KBar> 2gigs? no wonder its shitting bricks!
[17:29] <tommy_> only 2 gigs is being used
[17:29] <tommy_> still has 6 gigs
[17:29] <tommy_> ill just turn hypervisor off....i guess not needed
[17:30] <tommy_> thanks for letting me rant haha
[17:30] <tommy_> bye guys have a good day (<>..<>)
[17:36] <jhutchins> https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[17:37] <vector101> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mfJg8YrPzV/
[17:38] <enigma9o7[m]> show more
[17:38] <enigma9o7[m]> you dont even show what you were trying to do
[17:39] <oerheks> do a proper apt update first
[17:40] <oerheks> enigma9o7[m], yes, questionable why they hide that
[17:40] <KBar> welcome to dependency hell, my friend!
[17:40] <vector101> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NSmDn3DySf/
[17:40] <enigma9o7[m]> Well it could be as simple as not updating...
[17:41] <enigma9o7[m]> otherwise its usually ppa's fault
[17:41] <KBar> this is the first circle
[17:41] <oerheks> no apt update? why?
[17:41] <Unit193> IIRC there's a problem with some phased update.
[17:42] <KBar> ah, that'd explain things! thanks Unit193
[17:42] <oerheks> !info libsystemd0
[17:42] <KBar> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html
[17:42] <ubottu> libsystemd0 (249.11-0ubuntu3.3, jammy): systemd utility library. In component main, is required. Built by systemd. Size 311 kB / 993 kB. (Only available for linux-any.)
[17:42] <vector101> I will just install the source, I just was upset
[17:42] <KBar> indeed there was
[17:42] <Unit193> `apt-cache policy $pkg` will show if it's phased.
[17:43] <KBar> yep, thats what i asked for
[17:43] <enigma9o7[m]> Vector: sudo apt update
[17:43] <enigma9o7[m]> or just apt update, looks like you're using root shell
[17:44] <vector101> ahh, it just installed....
[17:44] <Unit193> KBar: FWIW, last time it was brought up, someone linked https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2022/06/23/%23ubuntu-devel.html
[17:45] <vector101> thanks again, does wayfire run on top of gnome 42
[17:47] <oerheks> vector101, you tell us? we do not have that package in the repos
[17:47] <vector101> gotta reboot, I be back in a little bit
[17:49] <KBar> is there a factoid for such cases? like "you are trying to install a third-party software not in the official repos. do it on your own risk and dont ask for support here"
[17:51] <KBar> Unit193: downgrading the affected packages should suffice for users, no?
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[18:03] <jhutchins> KBar: Restoring backups works.  Downgrading assumes the publisher incorporated downgrade support.
[18:03] <jhutchins> Purge/Reinstall might work, might leave artifacts.
[18:05] <||--||> trying to do-release-upgrade from 21.04 shows 21.10 instead of 22.04. Why?
[18:07] <jhutchins> ||--||: To prevent automatic upgrades that might break services.
[18:07] <||--||> so, I have to go through 21.10 to get to 22.04? right?
[18:07] <oerheks> have fun
[18:07] <jhutchins> ||--||: Better yet, read the upgrade notes.
[18:08] <jhutchins> ||--||: No, that's not the answer.
[18:08] <oerheks> wait for 22.04.1
[18:08] <||--||> lol what's going on? some terrible issue with 22.04 causing this?
[18:08] <jhutchins> ||--||: Try reading the upgrade notes.
[18:08] <oerheks> No? it is by design.
[18:09] <||--||> jhutchins: where do I get upgrade notes?
[18:09] <jhutchins> !upgrade
[18:09] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[18:09] <||--||> thanks, bot!
[18:09] <jhutchins> ||--||: There should be an explicit factoid, but I don't seem to remember the trigger.
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[18:10] <Guest3756> hi I have a question about snaps
[18:10] <oerheks> !notes
[18:10] <ubottu> Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) release notes can be found at https://ubottu.com/y/jammy
[18:10] <Guest3756> are snaps based on like docker images or whatever?
[18:10] <Guest3756> or it runs using the normal OS?
[18:11] <||--||> Guest3756: I think LxC, not docker
[18:11] <oerheks> snaps run in a confinement, yes, with its own dependencies included.
[18:12] <Guest3756> thanks
[18:12] <enigma9o7[m]> you are ever so welcome, if i do say so myself.
[18:12] <||--||> so, jhutchins, "I have to go through 21.10 to get to 22.04" is correct then, right? It just says "To avoid damaging your running system, upgrading should only be done from one release to the next release (e.g. Ubuntu 16.04 to Ubuntu 16.10) or from one LTS release to the next (e.g. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS)."
[18:12] <Guest3756> i am trying to figure out what the consequences of that are, so like, if I install "pycharm" using a snap, will it use a version of python that's bundled in the container, or use the system python?
[18:13] <Guest3756> i feel like it would be simpler if I didn't use a snap but that seems to be the recommended way
[18:13] <oerheks> it runs its own dependencies, so yes, bundled
[18:14] <oerheks> unless that snap writes uses the system defaults..
[18:14] <oerheks> c/writer
[18:16] <Guest3756> thank you!!
[18:17] <kanefoss> Guest3756 you will use the python which is in the snap
[18:19] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-your-first-snap#1-overview
[18:20] <KBar> ooh, i smell the scent of snap haters nearing us..
[18:20] <KBar> ||--|| you cannot go to 21.10 and then to 22.04 as the target was removed long ago.
[18:20] <KBar> well
[18:21] <dbqp>  hi, is it relatively easy to have ubuntu with my home directory on a bootable USB flash stick? I want to be able to go onto any computer in the world and just load up my OS with my documents. I am an ubuntu user so I can easily install ubuntu onto a PC, just so you have an idea of my level of experience just never tried what I mentioned in my first line
[18:21] <oerheks> not sure you find these options in flatpak https://snapcraft.io/docs/interface-management
[18:22] <oerheks> dbqp, yes you can, but it will be horrible slow.
[18:23] <KBar> you'll probably wanna have a persistent storage
[18:23] <dbqp> @oerheks, is there another alternative distro that isn't as slow? Not interested in puppy linux tho
[18:23] <oerheks> dbqp, not the distro, but the fact running from an usb makes it slow.
[18:23] <KBar> running on usb is inherently slow.
[18:24] <dbqp> hmm, OK I see
[18:24] <oerheks> lighter desktop like mate or lubuntu might be faster, not that much faster
[18:24] <KBar> dbqp: you may also try xubuntu
[18:24] <dbqp> yeah, I'm using Ubuntu MATE right now, I love it, super fast (although not off a USB)
[18:40] <jhutchins> dbqp: http://pendrivelinux canhelp you build a USB imgae that runs in RAM, has persistent data, and performs reasonably well.
[18:41] <jhutchins> dbqp: A standard install to even the fastest available USB drive will be painfully slow.
[18:42] <jhutchins> dbqp: You'll still be dealing with having to solve driver dependencies with varying success on every new platform.
[18:42] <jhutchins> http://pendrivelinux.com
[18:42] <enigma9o7[m]> slitaz is fast
[18:42] <jhutchins> Fast is relative.
[18:43] <dbqp> so you mean just the installation process is slow?
[18:43] <jhutchins> Fast is being able to get your printout the same day you turn in your card deck.
[18:43] <dbqp> If it runs in RAM, surely it runs fast?
[18:43] <jhutchins> dbqp: There's only so much you can put in RAM.  An optimised system will be usable.
[18:44] <dbqp> yeah that's true actually
[18:44] <oerheks> update firefox in ram ..
[18:44] <dbqp> ok thanks for the info
[18:45] <dbqp> any hopes that future standards of USB will be fast enough to be more usable for this kind of purpose?
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> a USB3 SSD is fast.  Its flash drives that are slow.
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> reliatvely
[18:47] <enigma9o7[m]> USB3.2 i think it is is 10Gbps?  or is it 3.1.  In any case USB3 is fast enough.
[18:49] <jhutchins> enigma9o7[m]: Are you running on USB?
[18:50] <dbqp> oh I see
[18:50] <dbqp> OK yeah, USB3 definitely, I would get. I guess I'm old school so I said flash, but yeah SSD. I'll see if I can get an SSD drive that fits in my pocket
[18:51] <jhutchins> dbqp: It's a niche case, so it's unlikely mainstream development will address it.  Portable devices make it unnecessary.
[18:52] <jhutchins> dbqp: Booting to user-provided media is one of the first things a responsible administrator secures on a publicly accessible system.
[18:53] <dbqp> I was just thinking, if I go travelling, I can use a friend's PC without having all of their crap intermingle with mine. A bit of a privacy thing I guess, but also i don't want to deal with someone else's clutter and settings if I borrow their PC
[18:54] <dbqp> I was also thinking the same for going to some cybercafe, I can't trust what keyloggers they ahve on etc. but if they have that blocked...
[18:55] <dbqp> lastly, just seems like a fun weekend project to get that working xD even if I don't actually really absolutely need it
[18:55] <jhutchins> dbqp: It is that, and could be useful as a rescue system. (There are pre-built rescue images.)
[18:56] <jhutchins> It's always a good idea to have a rescue boot medium in reserve.
[18:56] <dbqp> I've used puppy linux in the past to rescue
[18:56] <dbqp> but good to know
[19:07] <Blohsh> is there any way to install linux without usb or dvd? i see online guides but what i want to know is if i have 2 laptops, 1 is my main 2nd is in which i want linux, is it possible to write files on 2nd laptop by attaching its hdd to my main laptop so when i put back hdd in 2nd laptop it has linux in it?
[19:10] <oerheks> pxe boot install ?
[19:11] <oerheks> and what host? ubuntu ?
[19:12] <oerheks> oh you are crossposting multiple channels
[19:12] <Blohsh> ubuntu derivate
[19:13] <oerheks> and not even running ubuntu :-D
[19:14] <Blohsh> i have ubuntu on 2nd laptop, have to go to xubuntu
[19:14] <Blohsh> fresh install
[19:17] <jwash> does anyone have experience with the program motion and surveilance cameras? my cameras are all stop/start, they don't show smooth video
[20:13] <PsiloCybin> Join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:13] <PsiloCybin> Blah
[20:13] <PsiloCybin> Afternoon mistakes
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[23:56] <gvvg> Hi - I have a vmware 6.7 esxi host that is running a ubuntu 22.04 I just upgraded the system. Now it hangs after 1 minutes approx - I do know how to figure out why - in VMARE it shows that cpu usage is high and then the VM does not respond anymore -
[23:56] <gvvg> any suggestions to help me find the root cause would be appreciated