| lotuspsychje | good morning | 01:45 |
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| enigma9o7[m] | For a little while now, ubuntu 18.04 has started suggeting snaps in addition to repository version, when trying to execute stuff that isn't installed. | 02:19 |
| enigma9o7[m] | I know canonical wants to push snaps, but I'm surprsed pusing it back on bionic. | 02:20 |
| enigma9o7[m] | I think they'd rather people upgraded, etc, we've got less than a year left. | 02:20 |
| enigma9o7[m] | In the sense i think they'd want, snap only makes people want to keep using old os, but not requiring one to update. | 02:20 |
| guiverc[m] | enigma9o7: I'm not aware of that; but when 16.04 reached ESM they published that a few desktop packages were only supported in ESM as snap packages.. Maybe they're just moving sooner with bionic, but I've not seen it. | 02:21 |
| lotuspsychje | enigma9o7[m]: do you mean apt suggesting snaps | 02:32 |
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| underestimates9 | ahoy | 08:49 |
| daftykins | Landscape down again, sheesh | 10:58 |
| daftykins | ah sort of works... login failed at first | 11:02 |
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| webchat59 | I would like to ask a question is it possible to allocate disk space as RAM on qemu virtual machines | 14:55 |
| ravage | that is called a swap file? | 14:55 |
| webchat59 | Instead of ram | 14:55 |
| daftykins | you would trash your disk | 14:56 |
| daftykins | if you don't have enough RAM, you've got a poor system for virtualisation | 14:56 |
| webchat59 | Well is there a way to do it | 14:56 |
| daftykins | no | 14:56 |
| webchat59 | To allocate disk space as RAM | 14:57 |
| webchat59 | Well someone told me I could on this chat once | 14:57 |
| oerheks | if there was any, we would have said so. | 14:57 |
| webchat59 | Ok | 14:57 |
| webchat59 | Thanks | 14:57 |
| daftykins | probably misunderstood you, if at all | 14:58 |
| daftykins | bear in mind that a server install can run on as little as 1GB though | 14:58 |
| webchat59 | Not less then that | 14:59 |
| webchat59 | What about Ubuntu minimal | 14:59 |
| daftykins | just what are you typing from, a calculator? | 14:59 |
| webchat59 | Why | 15:00 |
| daftykins | explain your system specs | 15:00 |
| webchat59 | 4 gb ram | 15:00 |
| daftykins | and how much is free right now? | 15:01 |
| webchat59 | And I want to setup up virtual machines running servers | 15:01 |
| webchat59 | 4gb | 15:01 |
| daftykins | no you do not have all 4GB free if you have an OS booted on there | 15:01 |
| webchat59 | Well how do I check how much ram I have an | 15:02 |
| ravage | free -m | 15:02 |
| webchat59 | Ok | 15:02 |
| webchat59 | Thanks | 15:02 |
| webchat59 | Bye | 15:02 |
| ravage | that was easy | 15:02 |
| daftykins | fake enquiry imo | 15:03 |
| ravage | i will count it as another happy customer. or to say it with oerheks. have fun :) | 15:03 |
| daftykins | "hi i'd like to start an AWS rival from my home, someone get me started?" | 15:07 |
| daftykins | :) | 15:07 |
| ravage | i would say get a server with 2 power supplies and a gigabit connection. speed and uptime can compete with AWS if i look at their downtimes and problems :) | 15:09 |
| daftykins | hey you missed the quotes :P i was teasing the guest | 15:10 |
| ravage | and i just wanted to express my dislike for AWS :D | 15:11 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 15:11 |
| sarnold | my guess is the webchat59 guy was looking for https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/virtualization_deployment_and_administration_guide/sect-overcommitting_with_kvm-overcommitting_memory | 18:56 |
| oerheks | he could run a few dos boxes of 640kb.. | 19:00 |
| sarnold | *so* much quake | 19:05 |
| oerheks | leisure suit larry | 19:07 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I think QEMU actually has the option webchat59 was looking for. | 19:07 |
| arraybolt3[m] | -mem-path path | 19:11 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Allocate guest RAM from a temporarily created file in path. | 19:11 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Eh? That's in QEMU. | 19:11 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Hmm. It doesn't seem to be working on my system, though. | 19:15 |
| sarnold | last time I went looking for this, I thought it was libvirt that was asking qemu to mlockall or something, so that guest ram would *always* be ram, but that was years back. back when rhel 7 was relevant, perhaps.. :) | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: yeah, I regretted it as soon as I posted it. But honestly, we should not be helping do stupid things like ssh'ing as root when they aren't capable of troubleshooting bad keys or permissions | 20:32 |
| tomreyn | leftyfb: we could suggest better alternatives, and explain why they are. that would still be helpful | 20:36 |
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