[01:45] good morning [02:19] For a little while now, ubuntu 18.04 has started suggeting snaps in addition to repository version, when trying to execute stuff that isn't installed. [02:20] I know canonical wants to push snaps, but I'm surprsed pusing it back on bionic. [02:20] I think they'd rather people upgraded, etc, we've got less than a year left. [02:20] In the sense i think they'd want, snap only makes people want to keep using old os, but not requiring one to update. [02:21] enigma9o7: I'm not aware of that; but when 16.04 reached ESM they published that a few desktop packages were only supported in ESM as snap packages.. Maybe they're just moving sooner with bionic, but I've not seen it. [02:32] enigma9o7[m]: do you mean apt suggesting snaps === JanC_ is now known as JanC [08:49] ahoy [10:58] Landscape down again, sheesh [11:02] ah sort of works... login failed at first === leftyfb_ is now known as leftyfb [14:55] I would like to ask a question is it possible to allocate disk space as RAM on qemu virtual machines [14:55] that is called a swap file? [14:55] Instead of ram [14:56] you would trash your disk [14:56] if you don't have enough RAM, you've got a poor system for virtualisation [14:56] Well is there a way to do it [14:56] no [14:57] To allocate disk space as RAM [14:57] Well someone told me I could on this chat once [14:57] if there was any, we would have said so. [14:57] Ok [14:57] Thanks [14:58] probably misunderstood you, if at all [14:58] bear in mind that a server install can run on as little as 1GB though [14:59] Not less then that [14:59] What about Ubuntu minimal [14:59] just what are you typing from, a calculator? [15:00] Why [15:00] explain your system specs [15:00] 4 gb ram [15:01] and how much is free right now? [15:01] And I want to setup up virtual machines running servers [15:01] 4gb [15:01] no you do not have all 4GB free if you have an OS booted on there [15:02] Well how do I check how much ram I have an [15:02] free -m [15:02] Ok [15:02] Thanks [15:02] Bye [15:02] that was easy [15:03] fake enquiry imo [15:03] i will count it as another happy customer. or to say it with oerheks. have fun :) [15:07] "hi i'd like to start an AWS rival from my home, someone get me started?" [15:07] :) [15:09] i would say get a server with 2 power supplies and a gigabit connection. speed and uptime can compete with AWS if i look at their downtimes and problems :) [15:10] hey you missed the quotes :P i was teasing the guest [15:11] and i just wanted to express my dislike for AWS :D [15:11] \o/ [18:56] my guess is the webchat59 guy was looking for https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/virtualization_deployment_and_administration_guide/sect-overcommitting_with_kvm-overcommitting_memory [19:00] he could run a few dos boxes of 640kb.. [19:05] *so* much quake [19:07] leisure suit larry [19:07] I think QEMU actually has the option webchat59 was looking for. [19:11] -mem-path path [19:11] Allocate guest RAM from a temporarily created file in path. [19:11] Eh? That's in QEMU. [19:15] Hmm. It doesn't seem to be working on my system, though. [19:19] last time I went looking for this, I thought it was libvirt that was asking qemu to mlockall or something, so that guest ram would *always* be ram, but that was years back. back when rhel 7 was relevant, perhaps.. :) [20:32] tomreyn: yeah, I regretted it as soon as I posted it. But honestly, we should not be helping do stupid things like ssh'ing as root when they aren't capable of troubleshooting bad keys or permissions [20:36] leftyfb: we could suggest better alternatives, and explain why they are. that would still be helpful