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IrcsomeBot<Abu> This message comes when I turn my laptop on or off. How can I solve this? : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/09dd3ab1/file_57650.jpg02:45
arraybolt3[m]@Abu: Is your laptop still working otherwise?03:13
IrcsomeBot<milesdredd> Yes , same happenes with me , some error show ,but boots up normally03:38
IrcsomeBot<milesdredd> But i want to remove it03:38
IrcsomeBot<milesdredd> It dont looks good (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Abu: Is your laptop still working otherwise?)03:38
IrcsomeBot<Abu> Yes.... (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Abu: Is your laptop still working otherwise?)03:46
IrcsomeBot<Abu> But i want to remove this.....03:46
arraybolt3[m]@Abu: You may be able to append "loglevel=0" to your kernel command line.03:48
arraybolt3[m]!kernelparm | @Abu03:48
ubottu@Abu: To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters03:48
arraybolt3[m]@Abu: Use the instructions to add the parameter permanently, but do "sudo kate /etc/default/grub" rather than "sudo gedit".03:49
IrcsomeBot<Abu> Ok i will try03:56
IrcsomeBot<Abu> This is long process and maybe i can't do it alone.... (re @IrcsomeBot: <ubottu> @Abu: To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters)04:30
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BluesKajHi all12:33
user|61Hello i need help with kubuntu 22.0412:38
user|61I installed it on my notebook. But it cant find my amd soundcard and it cant find firmware for the amdgpu , when i try to install amdgpu drivers they are not installed12:40
user|61Its a matebook 14 amd 202112:40
user|61Need advice how to install the drivers properly so that i can make use of it12:41
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Q5AF12:42
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> O5AF12:43
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Hello, this messages are from me (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|61> Need advice how to install the drivers properly so that i can make use of it)12:43
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Amd support says its a community tasl to solve this12:46
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Task*12:46
tecttecttectHi, tell me can you see me or do I need registration13:00
BluesKajyou're seen13:01
tecttecttectthanks13:02
BluesKajyw13:02
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Do we get support here?13:04
BluesKaj@Oskar, tes13:11
BluesKajyes13:11
BluesKaj:-)13:11
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Ok cool  so how can i use drivers for my new notebook?14:52
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> All that i have tried failed14:52
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Need amdgpu drivers and for the amd sounddevice14:53
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Did not find a bugtracker or something else where i can ask for14:54
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> 😊14:55
BluesKaj@Oskar, are you sure it's the driver?14:59
BluesKajone thing to check for no audio is to disable automute in alsamixer15:01
BluesKajafter new install or kernel upgrade the default automute is on to prevent audio from blasting users on the first boot15:04
cbreakhmm... I keep getting notifications that I have X days to restart firefox for updates17:41
cbreakdespite restarting firefox17:41
arraybolt3[m]cbreak: Close it, open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, then run "sudo snap refresh firefox", enter your password, wait for it to update (you'll see clearly when it's done), then start it back up.17:42
cbreakarraybolt3[m]: yeah, I know I could do that, but ... really, why doesn't it update automatically?17:44
cbreakthis worked just fine wouthout snap around firefox17:45
cbreakin 20.04, in 21.10, in macos, everywhere other than ubuntu 22.04 :(17:45
cbreakrequiring terminal intervention for something as basic as updates isn't good user experience I think17:46
arraybolt3[m]cbreak: I don't think it requires terminal intervention, I think if you leave it closed for long enough it will figure it out, but I agree, this is a really rough spot in Ubuntu 22.04.17:48
cbreakalso fun: if I just run "snap refresh" , it tells me "All snaps up to date."17:48
cbreakarraybolt3[m]: long-enough must be longer than 10 seconds then :P17:49
arraybolt3[m]cbreak: Yup, guessing so. I get why they made Firefox a Snap, but... there are some things to be fixed, that's for sure. In the mean time, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux This has instructions for how to install Firefox from a binary tarball down at the bottom, that will give you an auto-updating Firefox straight from Mozilla.17:51
cbreakinteresting17:51
cbreakwonder why they gave up on normal deb packages then when they make tars17:52
cbreakcreating one from the other should be more or less mechanical, once infrastructure is set up17:52
arraybolt3[m]cbreak: Security. Web browsers are very complex systems and are a good way to hack a system. Snap adds a shield around Firefox so that even if something does hack your browser, it can't (or at least has a much harder time trying to) break into the rest of your system.17:53
arraybolt3[m]It's that shield and the mechanisms behind it that causes all the problems.17:53
cbreaksnap isn't the only way for process isolation though17:54
cbreakwonder if flatpack or appimage firefox have the same problems...17:54
arraybolt3[m]cbreak: Flatpak, unsure. AppImage, probably not I would guess, since I don't believe they're containerized.17:54
cbreakI do have a fully isolated 20.04 firefox in an lxc, which can update itself just fine :D (well, apt updates it...)17:55
arraybolt3[m]cbreak: Process isolation might keep one process from accessing another if something like a Spectre attack tried to steal data, but I don't think it would help with a buffer overflow remote code execution vulnerability. Snap containerization can even defend against those.17:55
cbreakbuffer overflows only give access to the vulnerable process17:56
arraybolt3[m]cbreak: But if that vulnerable process can read from/write to your disk...17:57
cbreakthen that's because the process has the permission to do that17:57
cbreakon macos, process isolation also limits syscalls, like file open / close17:57
cbreakit's a bit similar to how snaps work, just less ... binary17:58
cbreakI think selinux can do the same on linux17:58
cbreakbut probably too annoying to configure...17:58
cbreakwell, either way, the big problem in this case is that snap is not updating firefox while it's running17:59
cbreakit could trivially do so, after all, snaps are all isolated images17:59
cbreakand just swap it out as soon as it terminates.18:00
gary48hello18:14
gary48anyone here18:14
gary48since yesterdays systemd update there are all kinds of things broke help please18:15
tomreyngary48: hi. what seems to be broken, and which version of kubuntu and systemd are you running?18:16
gary48the discover store comes up with an error that says invalid number of concurrent streams18:16
gary48it will download some things from discvover and others come up with that error18:16
gary48and also krdc is broken and will not connect18:17
gary48kubuntu 22.0418:18
gary48how do i find out systemd version18:18
gary48what command do i use18:18
tomreynapt list --installed systemd18:20
gary48can not get into system log either its asking for a password i put in my password says wrong password i put the root password in18:20
tomreynyou have a root password?18:21
gary48ystemd/jammy-updates,now 249.11-0ubuntu3.3 amd64 [installed,automatic]18:21
gary48N: There is 1 additional version. Please use the '-a' switch to see it18:21
tomreynthis systemd version is fine on 22.04. i assume there is a different issue.18:22
gary48no it ask for one when i try to open system log18:22
tomreyn<gary48> can not get into system log either its asking for a password i put in my password says wrong password i put the root password in18:23
gary48it pops up xterm also asking for a sudo password18:23
tomreynthe sudo password is your user's password18:23
gary48right i input my sudo and it does not work18:24
tomreynwhat you just said sounds a lot like you do have a root password set18:24
tomreynwhat does "it does not work" mean? is there an error message?18:24
gary48just the normal password it ask for when i install software everything worked fine till yesterdays system updates18:25
tomreynwhat's the output of    lscb_release -ds    ?18:25
tomreynwhat's the output of    lsb_release -ds    ?18:25
tomreynthe latter, please18:25
gary48lsb_release -ds18:26
gary48Ubuntu 22.04 LTS18:26
tomreynwhat's the output of     sudo id18:27
gary48is there a system restore or roll back on kubuntu18:27
tomreynonly if you set it up this way18:28
gary48sudo id18:28
gary48[sudo] password for gary:18:28
tomreynand when you type your password there it says?18:28
gary48id=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)18:29
tomreynso you can run commands as sudo fine18:29
tomreynas root, i mean, through sudo18:29
gary48yes18:29
tomreynhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455540 is a recent bug report against kde, which produces the error message you reported here first.18:29
ubottuKDE bug 455540 in Discover "Unable to download from Settings with error 'invalid number of concurrent streams'" [Normal, Resolved: Fixed]18:29
gary48but not when i try to open edit sources or open system log18:30
gary48oh so there is a bug ok well how do i get this to update now that it will not install anything in discover18:31
tomreyni'm not familiar with kde plasma and how kubuntu manages updates to it. if you are running the latest kde plasma this bug may be affecting your system18:31
gary48i have theΒ  terminal muon and synaptic on this pc18:32
tomreyndebian package updates can be installed using the "apt" command, snap updates can be installed using the "snap" command18:32
alkisgTry to run a full update from the command line in case something was interrupted:18:32
alkisgsudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade18:32
gary48ok thanks18:33
tomreynalkisg: in case you know, is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports enabled by default on kubuntu?18:33
alkisgtomreyn: hmm not sure but I think "no"18:34
gary48ok that fetchs updates so atleast when they fix it i can get it that way18:34
tomreynthanks18:34
alkisggary48: also upload the output of this: grep -r . /etc/apt/sources.list* | nc termbin.com 999918:35
alkisgThis will show us if you have any PPAs etc enabled18:35
gary48i will check18:35
tomreynor use    sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999918:36
gary48https://termbin.com/7nup18:38
gary48well i can get into sources now that i did the upgrade command18:40
gary48so it fixed that the xterm opens i put my sudo password in and it works now18:41
tomreyni assume "get into sources" refers to accessing some graphical user interface?18:41
gary48Permission denied.18:43
gary48Possibly incorrect password, please try again.18:43
gary48On some systems, you need to be in a special group (often: wheel) to use this program.18:43
gary48thats what i get when i try to get into kysystem log18:43
tomreynwhat does this print?   echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE18:44
tomreynand this:   groups18:45
gary48i found a backdoor sytemsetting hit drivers then i can open it to see my sources meaning repos18:45
gary48x11 groups18:47
tomreyn"groups" is a command i suggested to run18:48
tomreyn(and post the output of)18:48
gary48ary adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare18:50
aleksey))18:50
alekseyi am admin18:50
alekseyclose time18:51
alekseyuser root hacking noobs xd18:52
gary48i will check for updates tomorrow i guess atleast i can update through the terminal now18:52
alekseyfack all18:52
alekseymonkey ) moon key18:52
gary48how do you follow bugs and report for kubuntu18:56
gary48they say they fixed the bug and im fully updated and obviously its not fixed and is affectting alot more then just downloading icons from discover on my system18:57
gary48tomreyn you still there19:00
arraybolt3[m]gary48: https://launchpad.net/. Create an account, then you can find the bug, and there should be a link near the top that says "This bug affects X users. Does this bug affect you too?" Click it, and confirm that you're affected.19:00
gary48thank you19:00
arraybolt3[m]gary48: In relation to not being able to view the logs, this is a known bug in Kubuntu, due to a CVE fix in the sudo program. They're actively working on getting it fixed (I was there when they discovered the fix and was actually helping to find it). In the mean time, try "sudo ksystemlog" in a terminal.19:03
arraybolt3[m](Essentially, there's some weird attack you can do on sudo in some instances, but the way they plugged the attack hole also threw a wrench in the works of kdesu, the KDE component that allows you to open applications as root through the GUI. The attack is sufficiently low-risk that they've decided to simply disable the fix to make things work again IIRC, but until then, this is the error you get, even when you give the right password.)19:05
arraybolt3[m](You can disable it yourself by running "sudo nano /etc/sudoers", then find the line that says "use_pty" and comment it out.)19:05
arraybolt3[m](And you can comment out a line in /etc/sudoers by simply typing a "#" character at the start of the line you want to comment out.)19:08
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tomreyngary48: i'm back for a while. ihave little experience with current kubuntu, could only really help with all the underlying things which are the same in ubuntu19:14
alekseyupdate it is virus admin panel secrets  update virus !!!!! live usb usage speet test19:14
tomreyntry ignoring aleksey19:18
gary48so my other laptop with kubuntu is doing the same thing so it must be a bug19:26
gary48im so tired of ubuntu breaking that past couple years whats a good kde distro that works well has a good uefi support cause i think after using ubuntu for 10 years it might be time for a change19:28
gary48mint these days even breaks cause i use that on my desktop19:29
gary48any suggestions19:31
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> How to disable automute (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> after new install or kernel upgrade the default automute is on to prevent audio from blasting users on the first boot)20:25
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> The notebook says, no audio device fpund that why i think its the driver20:26
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> It loads a hd driver for intel but not for the amd device. I know its an amd sound device and in alsamixer it is shown as acp20:28
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> And in alsamixer my amd sound device shows no sound controls20:29
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> And now i dont know how to activate my sound device20:32
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> I dont want to use all the time a headset20:33
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> With USB20:33
Iamthehuman1Hello there and thanks for the Kubuntu. I am on Ubuntu Studio, but I think this is vanilla Kubuntu behavior I would like to suggest a change: "how about not mentioning the username in the wifi hotspot default name?". If there is anyone else who finds this annoying and needing tinkering with settings to get the username away from the wifi hotspot name20:40
Eickmeyer[m]Iamthehuman1: I'm here too! o/ Actually, that's not even a Kubuntu thing but a KDE Plasma thing, so even further upstream.20:42
Iamthehuman1Bless you Eickmeyer[m]-Meister20:42
Eickmeyer[m]hehe20:42
Eickmeyer[m]Your best best is bugs.kde.org20:43
Eickmeyer[m]*best bet20:43
Iamthehuman1someone should really build that system that will do 3 things well: #1 tell whose bug something likely is and give links #2 send small amounts of money to FLOSS devels and most importantly #3 ability to attach small messages of support to keep on going to the small droplet of money sent20:44

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