 This message comes when I turn my laptop on or off. How can I solve this? : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/09dd3ab1/file_57650.jpg
[03:13] <arraybolt3[m]> @Abu: Is your laptop still working otherwise?
 Yes , same happenes with me , some error show ,but boots up normally
 But i want to remove it
 It dont looks good (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Abu: Is your laptop still working otherwise?)
 Yes.... (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Abu: Is your laptop still working otherwise?)
 But i want to remove this.....
[03:48] <arraybolt3[m]> @Abu: You may be able to append "loglevel=0" to your kernel command line.
[03:48] <arraybolt3[m]> !kernelparm | @Abu
[03:49] <arraybolt3[m]> @Abu: Use the instructions to add the parameter permanently, but do "sudo kate /etc/default/grub" rather than "sudo gedit".
 Ok i will try
 This is long process and maybe i can't do it alone.... (re @IrcsomeBot: <ubottu> @Abu: To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters)
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[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:38] <user|61> Hello i need help with kubuntu 22.04
[12:40] <user|61> I installed it on my notebook. But it cant find my amd soundcard and it cant find firmware for the amdgpu , when i try to install amdgpu drivers they are not installed
[12:40] <user|61> Its a matebook 14 amd 2021
[12:41] <user|61> Need advice how to install the drivers properly so that i can make use of it
 Q5AF
 O5AF
 Hello, this messages are from me (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|61> Need advice how to install the drivers properly so that i can make use of it)
 Amd support says its a community tasl to solve this
 Task*
[13:00] <tecttecttect> Hi, tell me can you see me or do I need registration
[13:01] <BluesKaj> you're seen
[13:02] <tecttecttect> thanks
[13:02] <BluesKaj> yw
 Do we get support here?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> @Oskar, tes
[13:11] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:11] <BluesKaj> :-)
 Ok cool  so how can i use drivers for my new notebook?
 All that i have tried failed
 Need amdgpu drivers and for the amd sounddevice
 Did not find a bugtracker or something else where i can ask for
 😊
[14:59] <BluesKaj> @Oskar, are you sure it's the driver?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> one thing to check for no audio is to disable automute in alsamixer
[15:04] <BluesKaj> after new install or kernel upgrade the default automute is on to prevent audio from blasting users on the first boot
[17:41] <cbreak> hmm... I keep getting notifications that I have X days to restart firefox for updates
[17:41] <cbreak> despite restarting firefox
[17:42] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: Close it, open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, then run "sudo snap refresh firefox", enter your password, wait for it to update (you'll see clearly when it's done), then start it back up.
[17:44] <cbreak> arraybolt3[m]: yeah, I know I could do that, but ... really, why doesn't it update automatically?
[17:45] <cbreak> this worked just fine wouthout snap around firefox
[17:45] <cbreak> in 20.04, in 21.10, in macos, everywhere other than ubuntu 22.04 :(
[17:46] <cbreak> requiring terminal intervention for something as basic as updates isn't good user experience I think
[17:48] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: I don't think it requires terminal intervention, I think if you leave it closed for long enough it will figure it out, but I agree, this is a really rough spot in Ubuntu 22.04.
[17:48] <cbreak> also fun: if I just run "snap refresh" , it tells me "All snaps up to date."
[17:49] <cbreak> arraybolt3[m]: long-enough must be longer than 10 seconds then :P
[17:51] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: Yup, guessing so. I get why they made Firefox a Snap, but... there are some things to be fixed, that's for sure. In the mean time, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux This has instructions for how to install Firefox from a binary tarball down at the bottom, that will give you an auto-updating Firefox straight from Mozilla.
[17:51] <cbreak> interesting
[17:52] <cbreak> wonder why they gave up on normal deb packages then when they make tars
[17:52] <cbreak> creating one from the other should be more or less mechanical, once infrastructure is set up
[17:53] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: Security. Web browsers are very complex systems and are a good way to hack a system. Snap adds a shield around Firefox so that even if something does hack your browser, it can't (or at least has a much harder time trying to) break into the rest of your system.
[17:53] <arraybolt3[m]> It's that shield and the mechanisms behind it that causes all the problems.
[17:54] <cbreak> snap isn't the only way for process isolation though
[17:54] <cbreak> wonder if flatpack or appimage firefox have the same problems...
[17:54] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: Flatpak, unsure. AppImage, probably not I would guess, since I don't believe they're containerized.
[17:55] <cbreak> I do have a fully isolated 20.04 firefox in an lxc, which can update itself just fine :D (well, apt updates it...)
[17:55] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: Process isolation might keep one process from accessing another if something like a Spectre attack tried to steal data, but I don't think it would help with a buffer overflow remote code execution vulnerability. Snap containerization can even defend against those.
[17:56] <cbreak> buffer overflows only give access to the vulnerable process
[17:57] <arraybolt3[m]> cbreak: But if that vulnerable process can read from/write to your disk...
[17:57] <cbreak> then that's because the process has the permission to do that
[17:57] <cbreak> on macos, process isolation also limits syscalls, like file open / close
[17:58] <cbreak> it's a bit similar to how snaps work, just less ... binary
[17:58] <cbreak> I think selinux can do the same on linux
[17:58] <cbreak> but probably too annoying to configure...
[17:59] <cbreak> well, either way, the big problem in this case is that snap is not updating firefox while it's running
[17:59] <cbreak> it could trivially do so, after all, snaps are all isolated images
[18:00] <cbreak> and just swap it out as soon as it terminates.
[18:14] <gary48> hello
[18:14] <gary48> anyone here
[18:15] <gary48> since yesterdays systemd update there are all kinds of things broke help please
[18:16] <tomreyn> gary48: hi. what seems to be broken, and which version of kubuntu and systemd are you running?
[18:16] <gary48> the discover store comes up with an error that says invalid number of concurrent streams
[18:16] <gary48> it will download some things from discvover and others come up with that error
[18:17] <gary48> and also krdc is broken and will not connect
[18:18] <gary48> kubuntu 22.04
[18:18] <gary48> how do i find out systemd version
[18:18] <gary48> what command do i use
[18:20] <tomreyn> apt list --installed systemd
[18:20] <gary48> can not get into system log either its asking for a password i put in my password says wrong password i put the root password in
[18:21] <tomreyn> you have a root password?
[18:21] <gary48> ystemd/jammy-updates,now 249.11-0ubuntu3.3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[18:21] <gary48> N: There is 1 additional version. Please use the '-a' switch to see it
[18:22] <tomreyn> this systemd version is fine on 22.04. i assume there is a different issue.
[18:22] <gary48> no it ask for one when i try to open system log
 can not get into system log either its asking for a password i put in my password says wrong password i put the root password in
[18:23] <gary48> it pops up xterm also asking for a sudo password
[18:23] <tomreyn> the sudo password is your user's password
[18:24] <gary48> right i input my sudo and it does not work
[18:24] <tomreyn> what you just said sounds a lot like you do have a root password set
[18:24] <tomreyn> what does "it does not work" mean? is there an error message?
[18:25] <gary48> just the normal password it ask for when i install software everything worked fine till yesterdays system updates
[18:25] <tomreyn> what's the output of    lscb_release -ds    ?
[18:25] <tomreyn> what's the output of    lsb_release -ds    ?
[18:25] <tomreyn> the latter, please
[18:26] <gary48> lsb_release -ds
[18:26] <gary48> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[18:27] <tomreyn> what's the output of     sudo id
[18:27] <gary48> is there a system restore or roll back on kubuntu
[18:28] <tomreyn> only if you set it up this way
[18:28] <gary48> sudo id
[18:28] <gary48> [sudo] password for gary:
[18:28] <tomreyn> and when you type your password there it says?
[18:29] <gary48> id=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[18:29] <tomreyn> so you can run commands as sudo fine
[18:29] <tomreyn> as root, i mean, through sudo
[18:29] <gary48> yes
[18:29] <tomreyn> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455540 is a recent bug report against kde, which produces the error message you reported here first.
[18:30] <gary48> but not when i try to open edit sources or open system log
[18:31] <gary48> oh so there is a bug ok well how do i get this to update now that it will not install anything in discover
[18:31] <tomreyn> i'm not familiar with kde plasma and how kubuntu manages updates to it. if you are running the latest kde plasma this bug may be affecting your system
[18:32] <gary48> i have the  terminal muon and synaptic on this pc
[18:32] <tomreyn> debian package updates can be installed using the "apt" command, snap updates can be installed using the "snap" command
[18:32] <alkisg> Try to run a full update from the command line in case something was interrupted:
[18:32] <alkisg> sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:33] <gary48> ok thanks
[18:33] <tomreyn> alkisg: in case you know, is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports enabled by default on kubuntu?
[18:34] <alkisg> tomreyn: hmm not sure but I think "no"
[18:34] <gary48> ok that fetchs updates so atleast when they fix it i can get it that way
[18:34] <tomreyn> thanks
[18:35] <alkisg> gary48: also upload the output of this: grep -r . /etc/apt/sources.list* | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:35] <alkisg> This will show us if you have any PPAs etc enabled
[18:35] <gary48> i will check
[18:36] <tomreyn> or use    sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:38] <gary48> https://termbin.com/7nup
[18:40] <gary48> well i can get into sources now that i did the upgrade command
[18:41] <gary48> so it fixed that the xterm opens i put my sudo password in and it works now
[18:41] <tomreyn> i assume "get into sources" refers to accessing some graphical user interface?
[18:43] <gary48> Permission denied.
[18:43] <gary48> Possibly incorrect password, please try again.
[18:43] <gary48> On some systems, you need to be in a special group (often: wheel) to use this program.
[18:43] <gary48> thats what i get when i try to get into kysystem log
[18:44] <tomreyn> what does this print?   echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[18:45] <tomreyn> and this:   groups
[18:45] <gary48> i found a backdoor sytemsetting hit drivers then i can open it to see my sources meaning repos
[18:47] <gary48> x11 groups
[18:48] <tomreyn> "groups" is a command i suggested to run
[18:48] <tomreyn> (and post the output of)
[18:50] <gary48> ary adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare
[18:50] <aleksey> ))
[18:50] <aleksey> i am admin
[18:51] <aleksey> close time
[18:52] <aleksey> user root hacking noobs xd
[18:52] <gary48> i will check for updates tomorrow i guess atleast i can update through the terminal now
[18:52] <aleksey> fack all
[18:52] <aleksey> monkey ) moon key
[18:56] <gary48> how do you follow bugs and report for kubuntu
[18:57] <gary48> they say they fixed the bug and im fully updated and obviously its not fixed and is affectting alot more then just downloading icons from discover on my system
[19:00] <gary48> tomreyn you still there
[19:00] <arraybolt3[m]> gary48: https://launchpad.net/. Create an account, then you can find the bug, and there should be a link near the top that says "This bug affects X users. Does this bug affect you too?" Click it, and confirm that you're affected.
[19:00] <gary48> thank you
[19:03] <arraybolt3[m]> gary48: In relation to not being able to view the logs, this is a known bug in Kubuntu, due to a CVE fix in the sudo program. They're actively working on getting it fixed (I was there when they discovered the fix and was actually helping to find it). In the mean time, try "sudo ksystemlog" in a terminal.
[19:05] <arraybolt3[m]> (Essentially, there's some weird attack you can do on sudo in some instances, but the way they plugged the attack hole also threw a wrench in the works of kdesu, the KDE component that allows you to open applications as root through the GUI. The attack is sufficiently low-risk that they've decided to simply disable the fix to make things work again IIRC, but until then, this is the error you get, even when you give the right password.)
[19:05] <arraybolt3[m]> (You can disable it yourself by running "sudo nano /etc/sudoers", then find the line that says "use_pty" and comment it out.)
[19:08] <arraybolt3[m]> (And you can comment out a line in /etc/sudoers by simply typing a "#" character at the start of the line you want to comment out.)
[19:14] <tomreyn> gary48: i'm back for a while. ihave little experience with current kubuntu, could only really help with all the underlying things which are the same in ubuntu
[19:14] <aleksey> update it is virus admin panel secrets  update virus !!!!! live usb usage speet test
[19:18] <tomreyn> try ignoring aleksey
[19:26] <gary48> so my other laptop with kubuntu is doing the same thing so it must be a bug
[19:28] <gary48> im so tired of ubuntu breaking that past couple years whats a good kde distro that works well has a good uefi support cause i think after using ubuntu for 10 years it might be time for a change
[19:29] <gary48> mint these days even breaks cause i use that on my desktop
[19:31] <gary48> any suggestions
 How to disable automute (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> after new install or kernel upgrade the default automute is on to prevent audio from blasting users on the first boot)
 The notebook says, no audio device fpund that why i think its the driver
 It loads a hd driver for intel but not for the amd device. I know its an amd sound device and in alsamixer it is shown as acp
 And in alsamixer my amd sound device shows no sound controls
 And now i dont know how to activate my sound device
 I dont want to use all the time a headset
 With USB
[20:40] <Iamthehuman1> Hello there and thanks for the Kubuntu. I am on Ubuntu Studio, but I think this is vanilla Kubuntu behavior I would like to suggest a change: "how about not mentioning the username in the wifi hotspot default name?". If there is anyone else who finds this annoying and needing tinkering with settings to get the username away from the wifi hotspot name
[20:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> Iamthehuman1: I'm here too! o/ Actually, that's not even a Kubuntu thing but a KDE Plasma thing, so even further upstream.
[20:42] <Iamthehuman1> Bless you Eickmeyer[m]-Meister
[20:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> hehe
[20:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> Your best best is bugs.kde.org
[20:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> *best bet
[20:44] <Iamthehuman1> someone should really build that system that will do 3 things well: #1 tell whose bug something likely is and give links #2 send small amounts of money to FLOSS devels and most importantly #3 ability to attach small messages of support to keep on going to the small droplet of money sent