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[02:11] <cluelessperson> oerheks, I don't want t oconnect it
[02:16] <oerheks> then i have no clue to fix your issue.
[02:19] <cluelessperson> oerheks, I just want to silence the logs
[02:19] <cluelessperson> it can fail all day long
[02:21] <sarnold> try that deny rule?
[02:21] <oerheks> discord wants your soul, in the agreement.
[02:23] <oerheks> gdrp joke, sorry
[02:27] <arraybolt3[m]> cluelessperson: Did you see this solution in the GitHub thread? https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues/23#issuecomment-831388529
[02:27] <ubottu> Issue 23 in snapcrafters/discord "AppArmor denial cluttering systemd logs" [Open]
[02:36] <jhutchins> Why will nobody try as hard to remove the cause as to remove the log messages.
[02:40] <oerheks> jhutchins, because the tracking..
[02:40] <oerheks> machien-is i guess
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[03:28] <jadenlian> i just found out you can actually get rid off the gui <systemctl set-default multi-user>
[03:29] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: Need help undoing that?
[03:29] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: Or are you just experimenting and are OK?
[03:29] <jadenlian> just messing around but i know how to set it back
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[03:29] <jadenlian> thanks though
[03:30] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: Oh thank goodness. For me, "Hey, I just learned how to do <insert catastrophe here>" is my way of saying, "Uh... help? HELP!!!!!"
[03:30] <jadenlian> jajaj
[03:31] <jadenlian> im just learnign new ways and stuff
[03:32] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: Nice. You may already know this, but if not, install GNOME Boxes and spin up a VM, then do experiments there so you don't learn stuff the hard way.
[03:33] <jadenlian> question if not using GUI  that means that i cant use now GUI app  (browser)
[03:33] <jadenlian> i was trying out docker
[03:33] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: True, that won't work. You'd need to somehow launch the X server to do that (assuming your using X and not Wayland).
[03:34] <jadenlian> x? wayland?
[03:36] <jadenlian> gnome boxes is more like virtualbox(virtual machine )  or docker(container)
[03:49] <jadenlian> arraybolt3[m]:i deleted virtualbox a few days ago and  i started using docker but i guess you cant use GUI on docker imgs so i just installe gnome boxes to try something new
[03:49] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: As a daily Gnome Boxes user, I think it's awesome.
[03:50] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: WAY better than VBox.
[03:50] <jadenlian> arraybolt3[m]: im going to try this ubuntu img i have to check it out
[03:51] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: You're using an official Ubuntu ISO, right?
[03:51] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: Or the thing Gnome Boxes allows you to download automatically?
[03:51] <jadenlian> define official.
[03:52] <jadenlian> oh no i have an img
[03:52] <jadenlian> i have one
[03:52] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: Downloaded from Ubuntu.com or the official site for an Ubuntu flavour.
[03:52] <jadenlian> yes
[03:52] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍️
[03:53] <jadenlian> arraybolt3[m]:i just have to figuere out how to operate this boxes ill get back to you and about 5 minutes
[04:04] <jadenlian> arraybolt3[m]:i did apt-get install gnome boxes and something got installed but what, i dont know, then i went to ubuntu software and i actually saw the gnome boxes there to download  but im trying to figuere out what it was that i installed with apt-get install
[04:05] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: "sudo apt install gnome-boxes"
[04:05] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: This should make an app called "Boxes" available in your application menu.
[04:08] <Bashing-om> !info gnome focal | jadenlian
[04:08] <ubottu> jadenlian: gnome (1:3.30+2, focal): Full GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Built by meta-gnome3. Size 3 kB / 35 kB. (Only available for linux-any.)
[04:10] <Bashing-om> !info gnome boxes | jadenlian
[04:10] <ubottu> 'boxes' is not a valid release
[04:10] <Bashing-om> !info boxes focal | jadenlian
[04:10] <ubottu> jadenlian: boxes (1.3-1, focal): textmode box- and comment drawing filter. In component universe, is optional. Built by boxes. Size 59 kB / 253 kB
[04:10] <jadenlian> bashing-om: youre saying to type that
[04:11] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: What Bashing-om is getting at, is, you installed "gnome" and "boxes" (or one or the other), not "gnome-boxes". That's what went wrong.
[04:11] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: You're supposed to type "sudo apt install gnome-boxes".
[04:11] <jadenlian> ok
[04:11] <arraybolt3[m]> The dash is important.
[04:11] <jadenlian> so that explains these bunch of games i now see here
[04:12] <Bashing-om> jadenlian: NO - what I am showing is what tour above command installed  vice "gnome-boxes".
[04:12] <Bashing-om> your*
[04:12] <jadenlian> does eather gnome or boxes come with a bunch of games
[04:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Gnome probably does.
[04:13] <jadenlian> cause as of 10 minutes ago i didnt have any on my pc and now therere about 10
[04:13] <arraybolt3[m]> Yep. "Recommends gnome-games".
[04:13] <jadenlian> mannnnnnnnnnn
[04:14] <arraybolt3[m]> Lemme guess... aisleriot, five-or-more, four-in-a-row, gnome-2048, gnome-chess, gnome-klotski, gnome-mahjongg, etc.?
[04:14] <jadenlian> yeah
[04:14] <jadenlian> i almost freaked out when saw them just now
[04:14] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: You might be able to do "sudo apt remove gnome".
[04:15] <jadenlian> let me do that right about now
[04:15] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: If that doesn't hardly remove anything, good, remove it. Then do "sudo apt autoremove", that should remove a TON, and should hopefully clean everything up.
[04:16] <arraybolt3[m]> (I don't think there's any risk of infection or anything from installing stuff from the official Ubuntu archives through apt, so while it may have been unintended, it's almost certainly not dangerous.)
[04:16] <jadenlian> i just didnt know where they came from when i first saw them
[04:17] <jadenlian> yeah they all gone
[04:18] <arraybolt3[m]> Right? In general, if something is about to install loads of stuff, check over it to see if it's what you wanted. I almost installed diffoscope earlier today since it looked like a useful tool, but it wanted to pull in almost a gigabyte of random junk for diffing various file formats. I backed out.
[04:18] <jadenlian> yes i shouldve done that
[04:20] <arraybolt3[m]> And in the event something pulls in loads of junk on accident, just "sudo apt remove <junk>", then "sudo apt autoremove", and that should clean it up.
[04:20] <jadenlian> now my ubuntu img is in a usb and for some reason gnome-boxes dont see it and i notice that to access my usb i need sudo so let make some changes and ill be running my ubuntu in gnome-boxes
[04:21] <arraybolt3[m]> (But do check over what those two commands are about to uninstall, since depending on what you do, it might try to uninstall the whole DE!)
[04:21] <noung> hi
[04:21] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: I'd just download a new ISO file rather than fight with sudo.
[04:21] <arraybolt3[m]> noung: Hi!
[04:23] <noung> hoe to make them windows xp full
[04:23] <arraybolt3[m]> noung: Are you attempting to create Windows XP installation media from within Ubuntu, or replace Windows XP with Ubuntu?
[04:27] <KBar> `apt purge && apt autopurge` usually doesn't work when lots of deps are installed, which pull in their own deps. The fool-proof method is to save the list of packages (i.e. "the following NEW packages are to be isntalled") to a file and then use it to remove them later.
[04:31] <jadenlian> yeah ill be more conscious  now when get stuff and ill try to have a file noting extra files that come with a package cause i already had some issues with apache2
[04:32] <jadenlian> and guess what arrraybolt3[m] i ended up going to get another img   that usb is full of it
[04:35] <jadenlian> i was trying to move the img from the usb to my home dir to and then <chown> since for some reason root owns it but it keeps saying that the file is busy
[04:42] <jadenlian> i have a question on the gnome-boxes  theres this option to enable EFI what is this exactly
[04:42] <jadenlian> just loading the img
[04:43] <arraybolt3[m]> jadenlian: EFI and BIOS are different types of system firmware. It's kinda complicated, but unless you specifically need EFI for some reason (certain types of testing), it's fine to leave it off.
[04:47] <jadenlian> ok
[04:50] <jadenlian> gnome-boxes   nice
[04:51] <KBar> jadenlian: yep. we all learn the hard way, the linux way :)
[06:05] <Nick01> hello!
[06:08] <KBar> !hi | Nick01
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[06:09] <luna__> hey
[06:10] <Nick01> hi
[06:10] <Nick01> i am trying to mount an ext drive in Ubunut (live usb)
[06:10] <Nick01> VM box
[06:11] <Nick01> ideas??
[06:12] <KBar> Nick01: iirc you need extension pack for that
[06:12] <KBar> it adds virtual USB support
[06:13] <KBar> Nick01: is that VirtualBox VM?
[06:15] <Nick01> yea
[06:15] <Nick01> its mac formatted though
[06:16] <Nick01> brb
[06:19] <KBar> Nick01: launch Oracle VM VirtualBox Manager, click F1. go to chapter 3.11 USB settings
[06:24] <Nick01> F1?
[06:24] <Nick01> I pressed F1 but
[06:25] <Nick01> uea
[06:25] <Nick01> yea*
[06:25] <KBar> F1 or Help->Contents
[06:26] <elias_a> Nick01: Please note that there is a problem with VirtualBox Guest additions in recent versions. See https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=104257
[06:27] <KBar> elias_a: Guest Additions are completely different thing
[06:27] <Nick01> well, do you know how i can mount this drive in Windows 10?
[06:27] <KBar> elias_a: not related to extension pack
[06:27] <elias_a> Nick01: This is not a Ubuntu related problem. I am struggling with this problem at the moment but as it relates to my personal stuff I have to finish my working day.
[06:27] <Nick01> ye
[06:28] <Nick01> yea*
[06:28] <KBar> Nick01: read the manual or ask Microsoft?
[06:28] <elias_a> KBar: Wasn't this an USB drive?
[06:29] <elias_a> Guest Additions is AFAIK the addon that adds virtual USB support.
[06:29] <KBar> elias_a: wrong. The xHCI and EHCI controllers are shipped as an Oracle VM VirtualBox extension
[06:29] <KBar> package, which must be installed separately. See chapter 1.5, Installing Oracle VM
[06:29] <KBar> VirtualBox and Extension Packs, page 6.
[06:31] <KBar> Guest Additions enable shared folders and clipboard, mouse integration, graphics support, etc
[06:39] <elias_a> KBar: The problem with the Guest Additions also breaks USB-support for old installations.
[06:41] <elias_a> I am not sure what the reason is but in my case USB does not work in a VirtualBox installation with several guests OSs.
[07:24] <Guest36> Hello everyone. I'm trying to find out what the difference is between these two ubuntu cloud images (available at cloud-images.ubuntu.com): jammy-server-cloudimg-amd64.img vs jammy-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk-kvm.img . They both appear to be QCOW2 images but I don't know what the difference is. Older releases only have one QCOW2 image. I want to use
[07:24] <Guest36> it in kvm/qemu.
[07:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Guest36: Just judging off of the file names, it appears the images are named after the virt technology they're designed for (Azure, LXD, WSL, and KVM are standing out to me). I'd use the KVM disk image.
[08:58] <Jonopoly> You can only imagine my face when I thought 'ufw reset' meant reload the firewall....
[08:59] <Jonopoly> thank goodness for 'history' command
[09:04] <tolerance5> hey
[09:04] <tolerance5> too bad the old versions of ubuntu can't surf the internet anymore.
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> never browse the web with outdates browsers tolerance5
[09:05] <tolerance5> i mean properly, like version 12 or so, cause the websites complains about certificates etc, they must have updated the SSL protocols etc in the meantime.
[09:05] <Guest36> arraybolt3: thank you
[09:06] <ravage> tolerance5, do you have an Ubuntu support question about a supported version?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> tolerance5: you can use older outdates boxes offline if you like, but the moment you connect you will be vulnerable to a lot of !usn
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[09:45] <vimart> Hi all
[09:45] <luna__> hi
[09:46] <vimart> hello luna__
[09:46] <respawn> vimart: luna__ this is Ubuntu help channel if you need help ask here
[09:46] <luna__> i know
[09:46] <respawn> vimart: luna__ for non help chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <luna__> k
[09:47] <vimart> respawn: we're pretty much aware of that, thanks anyway. Stay Happy & Keep doing a good job ;-)
[09:47] <KBar> vimart: hi. Do you have questions regarding Ubuntu? Please feel free to ask
[09:48] <vimart> Nah, thanks. Same to you. Stay Happy & Keep asking :-)
[09:50] <vimart> 40 packages to upgrade today. Nice
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[11:11] <Blohsh> After installing, when i boot it says no bootable media found, i don't see my harddrive in boot options too. But in boot options there is option of boot from efi file. i pressed it, then after going into 1-2 folder there was grub.efi i just pressed enter on that and system booted (worked fine)
[11:11] <Blohsh> what can i do?
[11:15] <mjt> perhaps have a look in your BIOS setup utility and see if it is set to legacy boot mode, rather than UEFI.
[11:17] <EriC^^> Blohsh: sounds like csm legacy is enabled in the bios, disable it/enable uefi
[11:19] <Blohsh> it is uefi
[11:19] <Blohsh> non csm
[11:20] <Blohsh> EriC^^ mjt it is set to uefi non-csm
[11:23] <mjt> Blohsh: you might consider trying this, use at own risk, backup before using: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:23] <ravage> or just try to install again
[11:23] <ravage> it is a fresh install anyway
[11:23] <mjt> where's the fun in that - i agree though, I would just start over.
[11:24] <mjt> there's no telling if there's other hidden problems in your install that won't manifest themselves at some inconvenient point in the future.
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[11:32] <Neomex> coming from windows, what file hierarchy do you use on ubuntu? where do you install apps? where do you store your projects?
[11:34] <wezzzzzz> Neomex: Apps are generally installed via apt. Unless you compile something yourself then it would be in either /usr/local or under /opt for a global install, or under your home directory.
[11:34] <wezzzzzz> There's also snap, but I recommend uninstalling that.
[11:35] <dsc_> Neomex: for me personally hierarchy is largely a Windows concept, as the location of files generally dont matter that much, because you have (terminal) tools to your disposal to quickly find those files regardless of their location. But since you are still learning Linux, it might be good to learn the default-ish locations for things
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[11:36] <dsc_> you'd store your projects somewhere in your home folder (/home/myuser/)
[11:37] <wezzzzzz> dsc_: You beat me to it :)
[11:39] <wezzzzzz> hierarchy is a tree structure concept that most filesystems use, not a Windows concept
[11:40] <wezzzzzz> Linux has a single root tree structure, where Windows has a multiple root tree structure (which  you can mount other fileystems within it too).
[11:41] <dsc_> what I meant was that, if you are on Windows, putting for example 1000 files in one folder, this is impossible to find something, however on Linux you can use `grep` to quickly find what you are looking for (or other linux tools)
[11:41] <dsc_> i.e: sometimes, with Windows, users have to "over-use" the filesystem hierarchy in order to make sense of their file management
[11:43] <wezzzzzz> dsc_: Oh, Windows indexes that now, since Windows 7 I think
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> maybe we should move that discussion to #ubuntu-discuss
[11:43] <dsc_> god, I hate this channel so much lol
[11:44] <wezzzzzz> lotuspsychje: lol
[11:45] <Maik> wezzzzzz: It may be your personal opinion but we do not recommend uninstalling snap here.
[11:46] <wezzzzzz> Maik: Really? It is a resource hog.
[11:46] <ravage> lets not
[11:46] <Maik> it's not
[11:46] <EriC^^> Blohsh: are you in the ubuntu install right now?
[11:48] <ravage> i think it is time for IPv6 man. now in imax 128bit
[11:48] <ravage> oh wrong channel. ignore me
[12:00] <AngryTom> /ignore ravage
[12:06] <ogra> wezzzzzz, snaps save massively on some resources and use some more in other aspects, please do not make such generalized statements without any evidence ... also like others said, snap is a cntal part of ubuntu, please do not recommend to remove it in an official support channel (if there are issues, help to get them sorted instead)
[12:07] <tigefa[m]> Authy app only on snap store. ;)
[12:07] <wezzzzzz> ogra: apt is the official package manager.
[12:08] <ogra> wezzzzzz, no+
[12:09] <wezzzzzz> ogra: So everything is installed via snap?  Or only a few packages after you install Ubuntu?
[12:09] <ogra> wezzzzzz, the snap-store snap is the official package manager of the ubuntu desktop ... it supports deb and snap packages OOTB
[12:09] <wezzzzzz> ogra: so if I uninstall snap I have uninstalled all packages? as snap is a dependency of everything?
[12:10] <ravage> why...just why?
[12:11] <ravage> we had ended that topic so gracefully
[12:11] <ogra> wezzzzzz, this chnnel is not for discussions (as you know obviously, since you are in the -discuss channel already), what i said above is the official stance for this support chanel
[12:12] <wezzzzzz> ogra: I was asking a support question, if I uninstall snap will it uninstall all apps?
[12:12] <ogra> yes
[12:12] <ogra> it will
[12:12] <ogra> some essential supported ones even
[12:13] <wezzzzzz> ogra: The following packages will be REMOVED: lxd* snapd*
[12:13] <wezzzzzz> ogra: so snapd and lxd ar eall Ubuntu packages?
[12:13] <ogra> wezzzzzz, please take it elsewhere ... this is not a support question...
[12:13] <wezzzzzz> dpkg -l tells me differntly
[12:13] <wezzzzzz> ogra: I am asking for support, and you are not providing it
[12:14] <wezzzzzz> You are lying to me
[12:14] <wezzzzzz> Or you are incompetent, so you shouldn't be answering me any way
[12:14] <murmel> wezzzzzz: dude, just stop telling others what you do on your system. most people just don't care if it's snap or not.
[12:15] <wezzzzzz> murmel: I wasn't doing that, I was asking if uninstall snapd would uninstall all ubuntu apps as snap is apparantly the official snap app repo.
[12:16] <murmel> no, i was talking about you recommending removing snapd
[12:16] <ogra> wezzzzzz, then you should prbably move on to another distro, if the answers if developers working on the one you use do not suit you and you deem them incompetent ...
[12:16] <KBar> ogra: trolls are coming back, aren't they?
[12:17] <wezzzzzz> KBar: It was a reasonable question
[12:17] <ogra> wezzzzzz, also, please take this as a first warning , insulting people in here is against the rules ... please refrain from it if yu do not want to get banned
[12:17] <ravage> and you are doing a great job feeding them. congratulations
[12:18] <wezzzzzz> ogra: When did I insult anyone?
[12:18] <KBar> wezzzzzz: you already got your answer. Not every app is provided as a snap. If you remove snapd, it will also uninstall all snaps. `snap list` to see the list of installed snaps.
[12:18] <ogra> wezzzzzz, read the backlog and think about it ...
[12:18] <wezzzzzz> KBar: but ogra told me the opposite
[12:18] <KBar> They really didn't.
[12:19] <wezzzzzz> KBar: why aren't you reprimanding ogra for providing misinformation?
[12:19] <ogra> wezzzzzz, i  did not ... i asked you to stop spreading unfounded statements about snaps without evidence ...
[12:20] <wezzzzzz> KBar: 22:12 < ogra> yes
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[13:38] <ice9> gnome-shell uses libnotify or what?
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> !info libnotify4 | ice9
[13:49] <ubottu> ice9: libnotify4 (0.7.9-3ubuntu5, jammy): sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon. In component main, is optional. Built by libnotify. Size 19 kB / 66 kB
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> weird its optional, its installed at my end on jammy
[13:53] <leftyfb> udo apt rdepends libnotify-bin # shows it as being a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[13:53] <leftyfb>  sudo*
[14:43] <nvx> do you use password managers? which one would you recommend?
[14:45] <murmel> nvx: it really depends on your use case
[14:45] <nvx> i imagine id need something multiplatform that can be backed up on other devices
[14:46] <ravage> nvx: if you want opinions about Software on Ubuntu please try #ubuntu-discuss
[14:46] <murmel> then maybe look at bitwarden, you can use their server or even selfhost, there are mobile clients but all oses are basically supported (except bsd)
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[15:04] <pocotim> Hi. I would like to install minimal ubuntu distro (without any GUI or DE). How can I do that? I've seen people have used mini.iso back in the days. I don't see any recent mini.iso - the most recent version I've found is from focal release...
[15:05] <leftyfb> pocotim: use ubuntu server
[15:06] <pocotim> leftyfb: doesn't it lack any improvements from normal ubuntu regarding media handling and codecs? (idk just asking)
[15:06] <leftyfb> no
[15:07] <leftyfb> all of the same packages are available to install
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[15:18] <u0_a2048> good morning everyone
[15:23] <KBar> u0_a2048: hi and welcome. feel free to ask questions or look for assistance
[15:28] <u0_a2048> kbar: actually for some reason rightnow  im logged in from my cellphone and eventhough i have my username registered and i /msg nickserv identify username passwd when i logged in    my registered username does not show here
[15:33] <KBar> u0_a2048: this channel is for Ubuntu-specific questions. ask in #libera
[15:34] <u0_a2048> kbar:ok
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[15:38] <Blohsh> 16:46 <EriC^^> Blohsh: are you in the ubuntu install right now?
[15:38] <Blohsh> nope
[15:39] <Blohsh> already installed
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[15:39] <Blohsh> EriC^
[15:39] <Blohsh> mjt i already tried grub repair
[15:40] <Blohsh> grub reinstall*
[15:53] <EriC^> Blohsh: yeah i meant if you're booted into ubuntu right now, did boot-repair help?
[15:54] <Blohsh> nope
[15:54] <Blohsh> still on reboot i see no bootable image found, notebook powering off
[15:55] <EriC^> Blohsh: type "(sudo efibootmgr -v; sudo ls -lR /boot/efi; sudo lsblk -f) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:56] <EriC^> Blohsh: also, sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:00] <noarb> Does anyone have a recommendation for a filsystem that can be used across mac os and ubuntu that preserves symlinks? I'm encrypting with veracrypt. Now I'm using HFS+ which requires sudo use on my ubuntu machine. Is that as good as I'm going to get?
[16:23] <NoiseEee> Hi folks, if I type "dpkg -l openssh" and receive 'dpkg-query: no packages found matching openssh',  does that mean openSSH was installed from source / not package manager?
[16:24] <summonner> try with  openssh-server
[16:24] <oerheks> openssh-server ?
[16:25] <KBar> NoiseEee: yes. but  try using globbing
[16:25] <oerheks> or openssh*
[16:25] <NoiseEee> openssh-server <none>       <none>       (no description available)   ...
[16:25] <KBar> `dpkg -l 'openssh*'`
[16:25] <KBar> the most important part is the 1st column
[16:25] <KBar> look for two letters
[16:25] <KBar> ii means installed
[16:25] <NoiseEee> I'm being told I need to have OpenSSH 8.8 but the package manager is pretty far behind that
[16:25] <NoiseEee> KBar: yeah, "un"
[16:26] <KBar> thats uninstalled
[16:26] <NoiseEee> so I imagine it must have been intalled from source then?
[16:26] <oerheks> client or server?
[16:26] <NoiseEee> its a server
[16:26] <oerheks> and being told, ismight be wrong information
[16:26] <NoiseEee> i mean it has openSSH because I can ssh in :)
[16:26] <KBar> whos telling you that?
[16:26] <jhutchins> !info openssh
[16:26] <rob0> if so it is probably /usr/local/sbin/sshd
[16:26] <NoiseEee> PCI complicance
[16:26] <KBar> better ask them then
[16:26] <ubottu> Package openssh does not exist in jammy
[16:26] <NoiseEee> 20.04
[16:27] <oerheks> fixes get backported, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh
[16:27] <oerheks> so so 1.8.2 someting might have the latest patches.
[16:28] <NoiseEee> interesting, I received  https://bogus.company:9000/uploads/cac0f06c0bb5f726/image.png  from dpkg -l openssh*
[16:29] <KBar> yeah you got both at version 8.2
[16:29] <NoiseEee> and sorry to be daft, does that mean the OpenSSH version is 8.2 or the Ubuntu package is 8.2
[16:30] <ogra> both ...
[16:30] <oerheks> see the releasedate, and the changelog
[16:30] <KBar> the openssh package provided by ubuntu in their official repo is 8.2
[16:30] <ogra> also, if you look for a certain vulnerability and its fix, look at: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices?order=newest&release=&details=openssh
[16:32] <NoiseEee> gah! frustrating. https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-8.8 is the release notes and "
[16:32] <NoiseEee> Depending on system configuration, inherited groups may allow
[16:32] <NoiseEee> AuthorizedKeysCommand/AuthorizedPrincipalsCommand helper programs to
[16:32] <NoiseEee> gain unintended privilege." is presumably what PCI compliance is complaining about
[16:32] <ogra> NoiseEee, note that the major package versions in ubuntu stick to the release version that was recent on release day ... CVE fixes do get cherrypicked and backported to these versions ... so 8.2 has likely the security fixes from 8.8
[16:32] <NoiseEee> gah sorry for the shit paste.
[16:34] <ogra> apt changelog openssh-server
[16:34] <ogra> that will show you the changelog of the current version ... CVE fixes should be mentioned in that changelog
[16:34] <NoiseEee> thanks ogra, that's a hot tip for sure, will check
[16:37] <NoiseEee> damn i don't see the CVE mentioned
[16:37] <ogra> which one do you look for ?
[16:38] <ogra> NoiseEee, https://ubuntu.com/security/cves ... if you have the number(s) ... you can just look for them there
[16:51] <NoiseEee> thanks for the tip ogra, thanks all
[16:52] <NoiseEee> PCI compliance told me disabling certain SSH directives will also achieve compliance o.O
[17:03] <jhutchins> NoiseEee: What are you scanning with?
[17:05] <NoiseEee> jhutchins: payment processor (that we literally just send captured card info/form to) demands PCI compliance from https://www.securetrust.com/
[17:05] <NoiseEee> even though we don't store anything cardholder-data related whatsoever
[17:06] <NoiseEee> its a bit overkill but i get it from an insurance/compliance perspective
[17:06] <NoiseEee> they will still process payments if SecureTrust says we are NOT pci-compliant, but charge additional fees and heck who needs those
[17:49] <holy_grapes> hi gang, any CUPS masters or pros in here willing to assist?
[17:52] <jhutchins> holy_grapes: IRC channels are pretty much just fellow users.
[17:53] <jhutchins> holy_grapes: Someone might have some knowledge of your problem, but no-one will know unless you post a clear summary of what you need.
[18:11] <tomreyn> NoiseEee: your payment processor has no other choice than to demand this, they'd loose their license otherwise. more of a topic for #security, though
[18:37] <NoiseEee> tomreyn: yep, i just was looking for the ubuntu-specific packages for openSSH as it didn't seem to match what I was seeing with the regular openSSH version. all good!
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[19:58] <webchat96> guys, i have a question, i tried to install 2 os on 1 hdd. I already had Windows installed but when I installed ubuntu I created a partition and now it just goes in and I get the 3f0 error. Can anybody help me? it's a hp
[19:58] <elias_a> Nick01: Did you solve your problem?
[19:59] <webchat96> I still don't need help
[19:59] <jhutchins> webchat96: 3f0 is just a hexidecimal character, doesn't mean anything by itself.
[20:00] <jhutchins> webchat96: Can you describe what happens?  Can you boot either Windows or Linux?
[20:00] <webchat96> everything worked fine until i installed ubuntu however that is in 1 partition windows is in another
[20:01] <webchat96> No, it doesn't start windows or linux anymore, that error just comes out, if I put the bootable usb it lets me enter the ubuntu installation normally
[20:01] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[20:01] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:01] <jhutchins> webchat96: You should be able to choose and boot to Windows once you get grub working.
[20:02] <jhutchins> webchat96: If you just restore the Windows bootloader, you won't be able to boot Linux except from your usb.
[20:02] <jhutchins> webchat96: Do you see any other screens besides the one that's giving you that error?  What is the complete text that is displayed?
[20:03] <webchat96> nothing else comes out just check hard drive and esc
[20:04] <webchat96> I will try to install ubuntu again since windows worked perfectly
[20:05] <jhutchins> webchat96: It's a little late now to suggest that if you're messing with installations on your system disk you should probably back it up first.
[20:06] <jhutchins> webchat96: You are assuming we know what screens you're talking about, we don't.
[20:06] <webchat96> you already have a backup
[20:06] <jhutchins> webchat96: "Check hard drive" is not a screen I'm familiar with.
[20:06] <tomreyn> https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/ish_3053911-2842957-16
[20:07] <jhutchins> tomreyn: Aren't you clever.  He's all yours.
[20:07] <tomreyn> all i can do is search the web, i'm not clever at all
[20:07] <Psil0-mobile> Hmm
[20:07] <DOMF> Hello, I'm trying to replace an Ubuntu 18 box with an Ubuntu 18 box. I rsynced all my userdata that I need, and I want to install all the packages that were on the old box on the new box. I did apt list --installed to get all the packages, then tried just running apt install on that list
[20:08] <DOMF> problem is, it mostly all failed due to newer versions of those packages in 20
[20:08] <Psil0-mobile> Replace the box like reformat ?
[20:08] <DOMF> is there a way to get JUST the package names without the versions so I can easily do what I am trying to do?
[20:08] <DOMF> nope
[20:08] <DOMF> move all the stuff to a new box
[20:08] <DOMF> (ec2 instance)
[20:08] <Psil0-mobile> Or your shifting wlk your home directories toy ouur new box
[20:08] <DOMF> yep and did that
[20:08] <Psil0-mobile> ?
[20:09] <DOMF> just trying to get all the packages to line up
[20:09] <DOMF> I guess I could try and further manipulate the output with cut/sed/etc but thought there might be an easier way to get just package names without versions
[20:09] <DOMF> (I'm a longtime linux user but Ubuntu is probably the distro I'm least familiar with)
[20:10] <oerheks> find the metapackages, i guess that would be the fastest way
[20:10] <jhutchins> !apt clone
[20:10] <genii> !clone
[20:10] <ubottu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate
[20:11]  * genii slinks back to the coffeepot
[20:11] <oerheks> apt-cache search . | grep -i "metapackage\|meta-package"
[20:12] <jhutchins> genii: Cheers!
[20:13] <BadAtom> DOMF: not directly from apt, you need to filter the output by doing something like sudo apt list --installed | sed -n 's/^\(.*\)\/.*$/\1/p'
[20:14] <jhutchins> DOMF: "run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile".  Then, after the base install on other machines use that file
[20:14] <jhutchins>              and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade".
[20:15] <jhutchins> DOMF: If you really want to do it with apt: aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p
[20:15] <jhutchins>              '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude
[20:15] <jhutchins>              install; on the other machine.  This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do
[20:15] <jhutchins>              not.
[20:15] <jhutchins> (gotta fix those line breaks)
[20:15] <DOMF> ooh great, I will try that, thank you!
[20:18] <jhutchins> DOMF: I'm assuming all the options are still valid, it may depend on the version, but it's worth a shot.
[20:18] <tomreyn> webchat96: so see the HP support link above, it should tell what you need to do. For more help with this, you could probably get help from HP directly, because this is an UEFI/BIOS firmware related issue.
[20:18] <DOMF> I can hack my way around it from there for sure
[20:48] <webchat96> I managed to enter the ubuntu operating system but not the windows operating system despite being installed
[21:06] <nivs> hi all
[21:47] <jadenlian> hello my ubuntu people
[21:50] <nivs> hello my ubuntu guy!
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