[03:16] Push (re @Oskar: With USB) [04:21] OMFG i installed steam on my laptop and it deleted all of the OS [04:23] On kubuntu 22.04 [04:23] @Oskar: Looking up solutions, some people report that Steam will decide to conflict with core system packages and cause this sort of mayhem. [04:23] How to revert? (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: Looking up solutions, some people report that Steam will decide to conflict with core system packages and cause this sort of mayhem.) [04:24] Have blackscreen now [04:24] @Oskar: When this sort of thing happens, it really messes things up. Your best bet may be to boot from a live USB, recover your personal data, and reinstall Kubuntu. [04:25] @Oskar: This is a very rare problem, but it occurred at one point here: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/qhjhf2/linus_trying_to_install_steam/ (I know it says linuxmemes, but I believe this actually happened, not just a meme.) [04:25] Also here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/256673/steam-destroys-my-ubuntu [04:26] So apparently Steam just sometimes goes off on a tangent and decides to crash all of creation. [04:26] Can you post this on ubuntu one [04:26] I will bring this to the attention of developers ASAP. This is a critical bug and needs fixed immediately. [04:26] I wanted to report bug but its too much information before posting [04:27] @Oskar: It should be easily reproducible, all you did was "sudo apt install steam", right? [04:27] Yes [04:27] (I'm good at bug reports.) [04:27] In discover it says its conflicting with "systemeinstellungen" [04:27] Cant be installed over discover [04:27] OK, I will alert the developers, replicate the problem in a VM, and file a bug report ASAP. [04:28] Thanks [04:28] So now i reboot into livesystem and backup all my data... [04:28] @Oskar: Sorry this happened. In the future, since catastrophes like this sometimes occur, if it looks like something is going to cause chaos, back out, because it almost certainly will cause as much chaos as it looks like. Steam in particular is notorious for this. [04:29] Yeah... Not so good this bug... I thought i was dreaming as it deletes all apps and blackscreen [04:32] But when u download the deb package from steam website, and install over discover, the installation aborts and says "lib6.so missing" or something like that, and when you press in discover on install, it says that its conflicting with system settings [04:33] @Oskar: Yeah, I dunno what's wrong with Steam that it keeps doing this sort of junk. Thank you, that info will help in making a good bug report. [04:33] And in live system the only thing installed is steam whe you look at the hard drive [04:34] No problem for this.. never thought this can happen tonme (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: Yeah, I dunno what's wrong with Steam that it keeps doing this sort of junk. Thank you, that info will help in making a good bug report.) [04:34] All sounds like that "libc6.so" is going wonky to me. [04:35] Pretty much everything depends on libc6, so if Steam decided to upgrade it, that would cause the problem. [04:35] But i cant access my files zhat stayed on desktop they are gone [04:36] @Oskar: You don't have any files left in /home/ ? [04:36] /home/oskar/schreibtisch is gone except of steam.desktop file [04:36] @Oskar: Open the hard drive from within the live ISO, then open the "home" folder. In that, you'll see a folder with your username, open that and all your files should be in there. [04:37] The files i had on desktop are gone [04:37] @Oskar: And you were saving important files there? [04:37] I wanted to put it on my hard drive , but then the steam shit occured [04:37] @Oskar: If so, do NOT do any writing to the drive. There's still a chance at recovering those files, but the less you mess with the drive, the better. [04:38] Ok (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: If so, do NOT do any writing to the drive. There's still a chance at recovering those files, but the less you mess with the drive, the better.) [04:38] Thank you [04:38] @Oskar: There's a program called PhotoRec that can undelete many file types, I'm searching for how to get it working in a live system. [04:39] @Oskar: Do you have any other computers? [04:39] Downloads folder is not deleted bit the desktop [04:39] Yes but with windows (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: Do you have any other computers?) [04:40] @Oskar: OK, nevermind, looks like we don't need the other computer. You will need a fairly large external drive, however. How big is your system's hard drive? [04:40] 512gigabyte [04:40] @Oskar: OK, and what's the largest external drive you have? [04:40] I have 1 tb external [04:41] @Oskar: How much free space is left on it? If it's more than 512 gigabytes, that's best. If not, we can still do quite a bit. [04:41] Its empty [04:42] @Oskar: Perfect. Would you please connect the external drive to your computer, then open a terminal window by pressing Ctrl+Alt+T? [04:42] Done [04:43] @Oskar: OK, please run `lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999`, and send the URL it spits out. This will let me see the drive IDs on your system and help me to tell you the exact right command for making a disk image of your system. [04:44] Oh my harddrive just has 320 gb the other one is not here atm [04:44] I have done the command but nothing happens [04:45] @Oskar: Hmm. OK, well, that's ok. We can still do a lot. The command might take a while before it spits out the URL. [04:45] @Oskar: You can also just run `lsblk`, then take a picture of the terminal window and send that. [04:45] After the 999 should there be the ` sign? [04:46] @Oskar: No, those signs were to make the command look like code, I'm guessing Telegram must not make that render properly. [04:46] I cant send pictures here [04:46] @Oskar: The command: [04:46] lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999 [04:46] Ok one moment [04:47] Done [04:48] https://termbin.com/r2yr [04:48] @Oskar: I will need the URL it printed in order to see the command output. [04:49] @Oskar: OK, next command: [04:49] sudo apt install testdisk [04:49] Done [04:49] @Oskar: This will install the data recovery program into the live environment, but will not write to your hard drive. [04:49] Ok [04:49] @Oskar: OK, next do this: [04:50] sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt [04:50] That will allow us to access the external hard drive and save recovered files to it. [04:50] Mounted [04:50] OK, next: [04:50] sudo photorec [04:51] You will see the data recovery software launch. [04:51] Yes [04:51] To know what buttons to tell you to press, I will need screenshots of the terminal window. You can upload pictures to imgbb or Imgur and send the links. [04:52] https://imgbb.com/ [04:52] I know the program, but used it a few years ago the last time.. so i upload now the pictures [04:53] @Oskar: OK. If you already know how to use it, great. Select your main hard drive's partition as the source, and your external drive as the destination, make sure it's set for ext2/ext3, and let it recover. [04:53] Ok but i dont have the big external drive here just the 320 [04:54] @Oskar: That's probably OK, it's unlikely that the recovery process will eat all 320 GB of space. How much space is left on your 320 GB drive? [04:54] 300 [04:55] @Oskar: Yeah, that should be OK. Make a new folder to save the recovered data into (sudo mkdir /mnt/recovery), then recover as much as you can into that folder. [04:56] @Oskar: You might also try "sudo testdisk" if you know how to use that software, it may make the recovery process easier, but it's not as good at digging up deleted data. [04:56] (Don't run them at the same time, though.) [04:56] Started recovery [04:56] Thanks for the help (re @IrcsomeBot: (Don't run them at the same time, though.)) [04:57] @Oskar: So sorry this happened. This is crazy. I can't believe Steam keeps wrecking people's systems like this. [04:57] @Oskar: I finished making the VM so I can replicate the problem and alert the developers. [04:58] Yeah its bad.. i set up yesterday this system, deleted windows 11.. and then it deletes all of my [04:58] Thanks for bug reporting. Idk how to do it myself in ubuntu one (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: I finished making the VM so I can replicate the problem and alert the developers.) [04:58] @Oskar: What a nightmare. Do you have any backups of the important files? Anything stored in Google Drive, flash drives, anything? [04:59] Yes the most things stored in google drive, i have 100 gb google one account (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: What a nightmare. Do you have any backups of the important files? Anything stored in Google Drive, flash drives, anything?) [05:00] The only problem i had before the steam disaster, were my soundcard not working [05:00] @Oskar: What's the exact hardware you're on? Something like "Dell Inspiron 7000" is what I'm looking for. [05:01] That may help resolve the soundcard issue. [05:01] (Obviously, for right now, we're most concerned with data recovery, but may as well work on other stuff while it's doing the recovery.) [05:01] I have a matebook 14 amd 2021 version. With ryzen 5 5500u, 512 gb ssd, 16 gb ram [05:02] Boom, found it. Let's see what solutions are available... [05:02] 😊 [05:04] Its an amd spundcard shown as acp [05:04] From huawei [05:05] Yellow carp [05:05] @Oskar: Well, shoot. This particular laptop has a sound device that Linux apparently simply doesn't support yet. I think they're working on it, but it's not ready yet. In the mean time, you may be able to use Bluetooth for your audio (if the laptop has Bluetooth support). [05:06] Ok nice , the bluetooth spund box from huawei is coming today, so i can make use of it [05:07] They sent for free because i buyed. Thanks for researching my problem [05:07] Buyed the notebook* [05:07] @Oskar: Sad that the answer was just, "This doesn't work yet", though. Glad there's at least something to help fix it. [05:08] Ill hope the spund card is supported in linux 5.20 [05:08] But the firmware for my particurlar ryzen 5 is not available yet [05:09] @Oskar: Hopefully that will happen. Linux is always gaining support for new hardware. [05:09] Firmware missing and tried to install firmware but is shown as missing... [05:09] I called huawei support for driver support they email me in 48 hours [05:10] @Oskar: If you're interested, here's the details of the problem your notebook is having: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215119#c1 [05:10] But i think the linux community does this way better.. and thanks for your help, thank you i will watch into it [05:11] @Oskar: Glad to be helpful! Hopefully the rest of your experience with Linux won't be anywhere near as disappointing and messy as it has been so far... [05:12] I use linux as my daily driver at work i like linux bit iam not so experienced in doing things myself atm (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: Glad to be helpful! Hopefully the rest of your experience with Linux won't be anywhere near as disappointing and messy as it has been so far...) [05:12] Learning linux atm [05:13] @Oskar: If you'd like to get really good experience with Linux without risking your system, you can install GNOME Boxes (after your system's data is recovered, of course), install Kubuntu (or any other Linux distro) into a virtual machine, and then experiment around in that. Even if something goes horribly wrong, it's contained within the VM and the rest of your system will be fine. You can even make VM snapshots that will allow you to [05:13] undo anything that goes wrong in your VM. [05:14] Ok ill do.. [05:14] And to the link you sent, its the 1 year older notebook, but its the same bug [05:14] I have the newer one [05:15] Thanks for help!😊 (re @IrcsomeBot: undo anything that goes wrong in your VM.) [05:16] @Oskar: No problem. The place that got me to the link I sent you is: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/no-sound-on-huawei-matebook-14-amd-2021-and-fedora-35/18681 (That is for your exact laptop if I'm not mistaken.) [05:18] @Oskar: OK, prepping for chaos on my end. I just installed Steam into a Kubuntu virtual machine. If this doesn't go haywire, something's strange about your particular setup. If it does, this is a bug and I'll be able to report it. [05:19] I just used minimal setup, then installed flatpak, spotify, libreoffice, qtbittorrent, and steam deleted it all [05:20] @Oskar: Minimal setup. OK, that's helpful to know. Steam installed without problems on a full setup. [05:20] Flatpak gave an warning, but not an error for one of the packages [05:20] @Oskar: Did it go haywire immediately after running the apt command, or did you launch Steam and watch it update first? [05:21] Ok how 😭 (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: Minimal setup. OK, that's helpful to know. Steam installed without problems on a full setup.) [05:21] Ah i used kernel 5.18.8 [05:21] Mainline [05:21] To support my hardware [05:23] Thats important for bug report i think [05:23] @Oskar: True. The more details I have, the better. [05:24] And i used all of the 4 packages 5.18.8 had tondownload for am64 architecture [05:24] Amd64* [05:25] @Oskar: One problem is, though, Ubuntu doesn't support mainline kernels, so I might not be able to file a bug report (especially since Steam appears to work safely on the non-mainline kernel). I will still try to reproduce the problem so that I can see if there's something I can report. [05:25] I used some firmware ppas too to support my hardware [05:25] Oibaf ppa [05:26] Thats all, i cant say anymore to this.. that was all i have done [05:27] OK. I will see if I can reproduce the problem with that. [05:28] Thank you. Files recovered now installing kubuntu back onto my machine [05:28] @Oskar: OK. Did you find the files you were looking for in the results? [05:28] Yes all there [05:28] Nothing lost [05:29] @Oskar: Fantastic. Whew, that was close! Glad it worked. [05:29] 😊 [05:30] @Oskar: I'd say "always keep backups" at this point, but it sounds like you already did that and only recent files nearly got lost. [05:30] Yes.. its good to have google cloud or any other cloud . But i dont recommend mega, because its not safe [05:31] @Oskar: Yeah, I've heard bad stuff about Mega before. [05:32] So now iam out of here, setting up my machine again 😊 [05:33] @Oskar: 👍️ [06:04] O set my pc up with 20.04.. i think i upgrade when 22.04 is stable [06:04] Whats with your testing of the steam disaster? [06:05] @Oskar: Still haven't made it happen yet, I'm multitasking. I'm going to try installing the mainline kernel and see what happens. [06:05] Ok 😊 [06:05] But it really happened.. i googled for it iam not the only one [06:06] @Oskar: My idea is to just install one component at a time, then try to install Steam but not actually let it happen, once it tells me it's about to explode, then I know I've hit it. [06:06] Ah ok 😊 [06:06] When you install flatpak, install spotify from flatpak, not from steam [06:06] Not from snap* [06:06] @Oskar: (Of course it really happened. Even if I can never get it to happen on my end, that doesn't mean it didn't really happen to you. I hit a bug once that only ever happened once, but it blew up SO BAD when it happened.) [06:06] OK, will make sure to do it that way. [06:07] @Oskar: How did you install the mainline kernel? [06:07] Ok 😊 i installed it woth the mainline installer package you get from a ppa (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: How did you install the mainline kernel?) [06:08] There you can install all kernels that you want [06:08] @Oskar: OK, I think I know what you're talking about. [06:08] I've ran into that tool before. It's just called "Mainline", right? [06:08] Yes [06:08] Perfect, I know exactly what you're talking about then. [06:08] 😊😊✌️ [06:09] Of all the components you mentioned, the mainline kernel sounds like the most likely culprit, so I'm going for it first. [06:09] Ok 😊 [06:10] Flatpak had some issues woth a package but just a warning nothing more.. can it be that flatpak messed up [06:11] @Oskar: Maybe? Flatpak might be the problem, since it's another package manager, but I doubt it. This kind of mess seems like it would have taken a conflict deep in the guts of the system. [06:11] But you can install the integration in discover too [06:12] Alright, kernel 5.18.8 installing. [06:12] Sounds bad (re @IrcsomeBot: @Oskar: Maybe? Flatpak might be the problem, since it's another package manager, but I doubt it. This kind of mess seems like it would have taken a conflict deep in the guts of the system.) [06:12] Will also try installing the Discover integration if the kernel doesn't do the trick. [06:12] Go for it [06:12] Yeah, given what happened a bit ago, that would be BAD. [06:13] Yes... [06:13] Nothing should ever, EVER, blow up an OS like that. Unless you're working with developer tools, in which case there's no telling what will happen, but aside from that... [06:14] Word [06:15] My Internet connection is pretty slow (getting around 5 Mbps at the moment), so this will take me a while. [06:16] No problem [06:19] The german news pages for linux say much things about steam deleting all files and apps [06:20] And they say there, its from the script steam is using [06:21] I dont want to install steam now on my machine.. iam afraid of it [06:21] @Oskar: Man. Did you ever manage to try to launch Steam, or did it blow up during or immediately after running the apt command? [06:21] After running the apt command [06:22] @Oskar: Ugh. What a mess. [06:22] In discover it blocked the install and the deb package said lib6.so or something missing install is aborted [06:22] @Oskar: libc6.so is a critical internal system component, removing it would easily nuke a system. [06:23] Its a 32 bit version of this lib file steam said [06:23] And it was missing [06:24] And apt said all the time you have damaged packages [06:24] @Oskar: That's what I figured. Again, sounds like the mainline kernel's fault to me. [06:25] Itd happening to you? [06:25] @Oskar: Not sure yet, just finished installing the kernel, now it's reboot time. [06:25] Ok [06:31] @Oskar: OK, so the mainline kernel did not cause the problem. Guess Flatpak is next to try. How did you install Flatpak? [06:32] Let me see one moment please, i look how i did that [06:34] Sudo apt install flatpak and then i added the flatpak repository. Then i restarted, and installed the flatpak extension in discover [06:34] OK. [06:34] On flatpak org there is the guide [06:35] But i didnt installed the gnome plugin [06:35] OK, testing it out. [06:36] After flatpak was installed i installed spotify flatpak package over discover [06:37] OK, this might be silly, but where's the button for installing the flatpak discover extension? Or what package is that? [06:37] After the install of the plugin the flatpak packages are seen on doscover [06:37] Oh wait found it. [06:37] It shown up without doing anything [06:38] Dont forget tobadd the repo from flatpak [06:38] Did that. [06:38] Ok [06:39] After reboot install spotify [06:39] Flatpak spotify [06:39] Spotify through flatpak, libreoffice and qtbittorrent through apt? [06:40] Yes [06:40] Then i had vlc and libdvd-pkg installed and setup [06:41] Thats everything all i said here what i can remember [06:41] OK, found the Flatpak spotify. [06:41] 👍 [06:44] Whats the most important thing, under 22.04 my notebook got hot af. Under 20.04 its cold [06:44] @Oskar: That's... odd. Can you do a full system update, reboot, and see what happens? [06:45] I dont want to gonagain on 22.04 until its stable [06:45] The steam thing is messing around iam afraid of it [06:45] @Oskar: No, I mean "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade". This will get you the latest updates for your OS, but you'll still be on 20.04, not 22.04. [06:45] Ok [06:47] Its still up to date 😊 [06:47] Back to the steam issue😊 [06:47] OK. Still waiting on Spotify to install... [06:48] Okay 😊 [06:52] I remember one more thing [06:53] I installed tlp used it for a bit and uninstalled it because it did not work like i thought [07:35] @Oskar: Unbelievable. Spotify refused to install on my system it appears. [07:36] Oh wait, nevermind, it actually did work. [07:36] I got that bug too [07:36] And then, sudo update and flatpak spits errors [07:37] Flatpak told me:Looking for updates… [07:37] Nothing to do. [07:37]