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[02:22] <user|24> What are the system requirements for Kubuntu 22.04?
[02:23] <user|24> Is anyone actually here?
[02:23] <arraybolt3[m]> I'm here.
[02:23] <arraybolt3[m]> Looking...
[02:23] <user|24> Ahh cool. :)
[02:24] <arraybolt3[m]> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements The system requirements for Kubuntu should be similar to the system requirements for Ubuntu, which the link points to.
[02:24] <user|24> I am wanting to install it on an older laptop from around 2006-2007 or so and was wondering if it would run faster that Ubuntu 22.04.
[02:24] <arraybolt3[m]> If you've got 4 GB RAM, that should work just fine.
[02:25] <arraybolt3[m]> (Really, there's not any minimum requirements other than the RAM and the disk space - most and 64-bit CPU will work, it just might be sluggish.)
[02:25] <arraybolt3[m]> user|24: If you find that your system is sluggish with Kubuntu, you might try out Lubuntu, it's more lightweight. (Disclaimer: I'm a Lubuntu contributor.)
[02:25] <user|24> I has Ubuntu 22.04 on it now and it's a little slow. Yes I have exactly 4GB of Ram. I was just wondering if it might run faster or more smoothly that Ubunto 22.04
[02:26] <user|24> Due to the difference in GUI.
[02:26] <user|24> Okay I may try Lubuntu then is it pretty much as robust as Ubuntu?
[02:26] <arraybolt3[m]> user|24: Kubuntu would probably run smoother, but Lubuntu will probably run a LOT smoother.
[02:27] <user|24> Yeah Lubuntu migh be the ticket then.
[02:27] <user|24> Okay thank you very much.
[02:27] <arraybolt3[m]> user|24: Yep. Ubuntu and Lubuntu are the same OS under the hood, but Ubuntu uses GNOME, which is incredibly resource-hungry, and Lubuntu uses LXQt, which is very lightweight. It also has a different set of apps.
[02:27] <arraybolt3[m]> (A different set of pre-installed apps.)
[02:28] <user|24> Okay I'll check it out thanks. :)
[06:25] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> 😎
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:15] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> The ibus panel (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> which annoyance ?)
[15:15] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> Annoys me hardcore
[15:16] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> DE shows up after every reboot even if ita deactivated and i cant stop it tobdo this
[15:17] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> Can i delete the ibus application ? And if yes how  is the package called?
[15:19] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> My laptop freezed on dell log in logo
[15:21] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> Like this : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4a6bf58e/file_57860.jpg
[15:22] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> Press f12 pn bootup, then you see the output, its on my laptop like this when i press f12
[15:22] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> Bit press first when its at dell logi
[15:24] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> 😭 (re @Oskar: Can i delete the ibus application ? And if yes how  is the package called?)
[15:26] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> i pressed power key
[15:28] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> before it freezes i toke a look at system monitor and the CPU was stick at 100% used
[15:44] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> Google dont helped me for my question if i can delete ibus. I purge it now its annoying
[16:05] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> How can i fix hight CPU usage?
[16:11] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oov Look through your processes and find out what's using up your CPU.
[16:15] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> How
[16:16] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oov: Open System Monitor, on the left, click "Processes", then up near the top, click "Show: <whatever> processes" button and change it to "Show: All processes".
[16:19] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> Ok
[16:19] <IrcsomeBot> <Oov> And what about this (re @Oov: )
[16:22] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oov Then you can see what program is eating up your CPU.
[17:13] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Power profile missing in KDE battery widget 🥲
[17:13] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip>  ( I'm using Kubuntu on my Huawei matebook d15 / cpu - amd )
[17:14] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Can anyone tell me why 🙂 (re @Dip: Power profile missing in KDE battery widget 🥲
[17:14] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip>  ( I'm using Kubuntu on my Huawei matebook d15 / cpu - amd ))
[17:15] <arraybolt3[m]> Dip: Hmm. I'd guess hardware issues, however you might find people who know more in #ubuntu - they support Kubuntu as well, and have a lot more people in the chat.
[17:16] <arraybolt3[m]> (By hardware issues, I mean that maybe Kubuntu doesn't have good support for whatever battery your Matebook uses - that being said I'm not sure what a power profile is?)
[17:38] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> but with Ubuntu(gnome) and fedora(gnome), power profiles switch option works on my laptop (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> (By hardware issues, I mean that maybe Kubuntu doesn't have good support for whatever battery your Matebook uses - that being said I'm not sure what a power profile is?))
[17:39] <arraybolt3[m]> Dip: That's... weird. By power profiles, do you mean like things like "Balanced"?
[17:39] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> I don't know why it's doesn't work with KDE
[17:39] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Yeah (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Dip: That's... weird. By power profiles, do you mean like things like "Balanced"?)
[17:40] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Power saving
[17:40] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Balanced
[17:40] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Performance (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Dip: That's... weird. By power profiles, do you mean like things like "Balanced"?)
[17:40] <arraybolt3[m]> @Dip Ah, I see. I don't think KDE has that feature (or if it does, I've not seen it anywhere).
[17:41] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> But it works on my Dell Inspiron 15 ( Intel i3 11th gen ) (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Dip Ah, I see. I don't think KDE has that feature (or if it does, I've not seen it anywhere).)
[17:41] <arraybolt3[m]> On KDE?
[17:41] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> On Kubuntu (re @Dip: But it works on my Dell Inspiron 15 ( Intel i3 11th gen ))
[17:41] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Yeah (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> On KDE?)
[17:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Are you using different versions of Kubuntu on the two systems by any chance?
[17:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Or did you apply something like kubuntu-backports to one of the systems?
[17:42] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> 🙅‍♂ (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Are you using different versions of Kubuntu on the two systems by any chance?)
[17:42] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> I have installed from same iso
[17:43] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Nooo (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Or did you apply something like kubuntu-backports to one of the systems?)
[17:43] <arraybolt3[m]> And both systems are fully updated, right?
[17:43] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Yeah (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> And both systems are fully updated, right?)
[17:43] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> I haven't installed anything
[17:44] <arraybolt3[m]> So weird. On GNOME, this isn't even a hardware-dependent thing AFAIK (I can see power profiles in a VM), but I've never seen them on KDE. Let me look stuff up.
[17:45] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> 🥲 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> So weird. On GNOME, this isn't even a hardware-dependent thing AFAIK (I can see power profiles in a VM), but I've never seen them on KDE. Let me look stuff up.)
[17:45] <arraybolt3[m]> I see the functionality was indeed added to KDE.
[17:55] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10HSZsujgB9A5Eqalm-5skITglR0-qgWu
[17:55] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> It's showing on my Dell Inspiron 15, not on the Huawei matebook d15 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> I see the functionality was indeed added to KDE.)
[17:58] <arraybolt3[m]> @Dip Hey, I may have found the solution. Can you run "sudo apt install power-profiles-daemon" in a terminal, then reboot and see if that fixes it?
[18:00] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Unfortunately I've already tried it 🥲 Not working (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Dip Hey, I may have found the solution. Can you run "sudo apt install power-profiles-daemon" in a terminal, then reboot and see if that fixes it?)
[18:02] <arraybolt3[m]> @Dip Sadly, I may have found the problem. It looks like the power profiles in KDE don't work on AMD CPUs (yet). I bet your Matebook is on AMD, and your Inspiron is on Intel.
[18:04] <arraybolt3[m]> THough I don't know that for sure - some people have it working on AMD CPUs, so Idk what to say here.
[18:04] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> even charge threshold is working perfectly 🥲💔 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Dip Sadly, I may have found the problem. It looks like the power profiles in KDE don't work on AMD CPUs (yet). I bet your Matebook is on AMD, and your Inspiron is on Intel.)
[18:06] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Can you tell me any alternative way? for saving power when I'm working on battery power
[18:07] <arraybolt3[m]> Maybe the people who have it working on AMD systems have something else going on. According to the developer, AMD support won't be added until certain AMD features show up in the Linux kernel. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/hadess/power-profiles-daemon/-/issues/73 So sadly, if the feature isn't working here, I don't think it can be made to work (or at least I don't know how to make it work). On the bright side, most of a system's power
[18:07] <arraybolt3[m]> consumption is from the screen backlight, so if you can adjust screen brightness, you can help your battery out that way.
[18:07] <ubottu> Issue 73 in hadess/power-profiles-daemon "[REQUEST] AMD CPU power management support" [Closed]
[18:07] <arraybolt3[m]> There are also other power managers, let me find out.
[18:08] <oerheks> disable animations? System Settings > Workspace Behaviour > Desktop Effects
[18:08] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Okk (re @IrcsomeBot: <oerheks> disable animations? System Settings > Workspace Behaviour > Desktop Effects)
[18:08] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Actually I want to limit cpu clock speed when I'm using battery power
[18:09] <oerheks> limit cpu is of no use..
[18:09] <oerheks> you would run the task longer, so the benefit of some microwatt lower is gone
[18:10] <arraybolt3[m]> And modern CPUs automatically tune themselves for your workload so that they don't eat power that they don't have to.
[18:16] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> Okk 🙂
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> But for some reason i just want to automate this 👇 process 🥲 [ now tell me the solution ( i can implement this on windows easily by modifying powerplan)]
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip> switch (cpuFrequency) {
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip>     case (adapter == connected): {
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip>         cpuFrequency = max;
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip>         break;
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <Dip>     }
[19:02] <IrcsomeBot> <Oskar> At my matebook 14 amd 2021 its working perfectly fine (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> Maybe the people who have it working on AMD systems have something else going on. According to the developer, AMD support won't be added until certain AMD features show up in the Linux kernel. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/hadess/power-profiles-daemon/-/issues/73 So sadly, if the feature isn't working here, I don't think it can be made to work (or at least I
[19:02] <ubottu> Issue 73 in hadess/power-profiles-daemon "[REQUEST] AMD CPU power management support" [Closed]
[19:45] <giancarlo> hi
[19:45] <arraybolt3[m]> Hi!
[19:52] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar @Dip Then I may be wrong. Stick around, maybe someone will know the answer. Thanks @Oskar for chiming in!
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[20:53] <anthonyhuang07> ok
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