[01:21] <MauroGaspari[m]> Eickmeyer: OvenWerks RikMills Are you guys going to Akademy this year? I will be there, would be nice to have a chat in person.
[02:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> Mauro Gaspari: There's no way I can make it, just not enough time. In addition to my job, which is work-from-home, I'm also a stay-at-home dad, and taking over a week off from that would be rough on my family.
[03:11]  * OvenWerks is not indepenently wealthy. Quite honestly there is a lineup of things waiting to take his money  ;)
[07:11] <MauroGaspari[m]> Aww I was hoping to see you guys 😭
[07:12] <RikMills> MauroGaspari[m]: sadly, no
[07:16] <MauroGaspari[m]> It's ok, I love you all anyway 😅
[14:28] <OvenWerks> Problems with the systray audio volume applet again...
[14:28] <OvenWerks> it doesn't see reality
[14:33] <OvenWerks> doesn't control reality either
[14:36] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: pavucontrol shows the output as jack sink. pavucontrol also shows jack source/sink as the only devices available. Settings->audio also shows the same thing.
[14:40] <OvenWerks> however, the systray volume control when clicked shows no jacksinks but rather whatever physical devices pulse would have seen before we deleted them all. Using the mouse wheel on the systray icon seems to move the control on one of the devices but the device itself is not set or changed.
[14:53] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: how do I find the package this comes from? When I click on the icon and get a window there is a setting button and opening that gives me: Audio Volume settings - Plasma. The about button says Audio Volume 1.0.0
[14:57] <OvenWerks> however, I see plasma-pa is installed as an applet but that is version4:5.24.4
[15:12] <OvenWerks> restarting jack does fix it (at least this time)
[15:42] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: As far as I know, the system tray applet is part of plasmashell itself, but RikMills would have more info.
[15:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> You might try adding ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and see if the issue is resolved there.
[15:44] <OvenWerks> I would be surprised if it was. I suspect it has something to do with controls starting at the same time as the applet
[15:45] <Eickmeyer[m]> I've typically resolved it by restarting plasmashell with alt-space "plasmashell --replace".
[15:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> But yeah, it's got race condition written all over it.
[15:55] <OvenWerks> I wonder if there is a way of detecting the widget has started or plasma shelll has started
[15:59] <OvenWerks> Hmm, maybe look at the ppid and if it is not controls, add delay
[16:12] <RikMills> what about button?
[16:13] <OvenWerks> RikMills: button?
[16:14] <RikMills> OvenWerks: quote " The about button says Audio Volume 1.0.0"
[16:15] <OvenWerks> RikMills: the volume control applet (the one you can set your mouse on and scroll the audio level up and down) has a setup icon that opens a window
[16:16] <OvenWerks> that window has three tabs: General, keyboard shortcuts and about.
[16:16] <OvenWerks> That about tab/button
[16:16] <OvenWerks> It also says the author is Harold Sitter
[16:17] <OvenWerks> (and GPL licence)
[16:17] <RikMills> oh, I though you meant pulse audio volume control
[16:17] <RikMills> that is plasma-pa AFAIK
[16:18] <OvenWerks> but that version does not match the version of plasma-pa
[16:22] <RikMills> I guess comes from: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-pa/-/blob/master/applet/metadata.desktop#L116