[00:08] <goddard> nautilus file transfer is bad
[00:09] <goddard> you can't even see all the text because it is cut off for the speed of the transfer, you can't pause and resume, and it keeps blinking.
[00:15] <leftyfb> !bug | goddard 
[00:16] <goddard> leftyfb: not really a bug it is just designed badly
[00:17] <goddard> just look at it
[00:17] <goddard> https://i.postimg.cc/jjVDKNRh/Screenshot-from-2022-07-08-20-16-39.png
[00:17] <goddard> you can't see the speed its running at 
[00:18] <goddard> and it blinks
[00:18] <leftyfb> report the bug then
[00:18] <leftyfb> or be content with the way it is
[00:18] <leftyfb> or download the source code and change it to your liking
[00:18] <leftyfb> those are your options
[00:18] <arraybolt3[m]> Bad design can still be a bug. If LibreOffice put the buttons scattered all over the whole screen, that would be a bug.
[00:20] <sarnold> goddard: hah, cute. that's probably worth a bug report
[00:27] <oerheks> I'd say that dialogue is perfect.
[00:28] <oerheks> using full space for filenames , destination and duration could overspan, so the cutoff is enough info 
[00:31] <sarnold> but why not just embiggen the dialog?
[00:32] <sarnold> or enshrinken the big X so the text could fit underneath it?
[00:32] <sarnold> or remove the X entirely and put it in the titlebar
[00:32] <ravage> at least show a mouseover text of the full thing. i guess that does not pup up?
[00:32] <goddard> also you can't pause and resume
[00:32] <arraybolt3[m]> -1 on enshrinken the X, +1 on embiggen the dialog, also add the pause button please!
[00:33] <goddard> what if your computer crashes
[00:33] <goddard> the biggest strangeness is that it blinks
[00:33] <sarnold> heh I nver thought about a pause button before
[00:33] <ravage> goddard, use rsync if you need to really resume stuff :)
[00:33] <goddard> right now Windows you can pause but it can't resume after a crash
[00:33] <goddard> we should be doing better than windows and macos
[00:34] <arraybolt3[m]> goddard: Resume after crash sounds handy, but it would require an integrity check of the file first, which in practice would probably take longer than just starting the copy all over again.
[00:34] <goddard> arraybolt3[m]: probably depends how it performs the transfer
[00:35] <arraybolt3[m]> Or at least not save all that much time (especially if the files are on the same drive). It might save a smidge for copies between drives, but still.
[00:35] <goddard> if you are tracking each successful write and logging it as you go then you can safely resume
[00:36] <arraybolt3[m]> goddard: Good point, though a disk cache could still throw a monkey wrench in the works.
[00:36] <goddard> maybe a few edge cases
[00:36] <arraybolt3[m]> (I guess that would depend on how the drive being written to works, but you can't make any guarantees on what the manufacturers are going to come up with!)
[00:38] <goddard> id expect we are operating at a higher level and would much care ... hopefully :D
[00:38] <goddard> wouldn't/would
[00:39] <arraybolt3[m]> goddard: Oh you'd be surprised what manufacturers will do. I present nVidia as the ultimate example. Or like the other day, poor guy just wanted his webcam to work, so the manufacturer told him to install a driver for LINUX 5.19 (?!) on his Ubuntu system (which was a total fail, ended up messing up his video somehow, and then attempting to fix that killed the GUI entirely).
[00:41] <goddard> hmm
[00:42] <goddard> might work with mainline 
[00:42] <sarnold> here's a recent example with storage https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1494213855387734019
[00:43] <goddard> haha
[00:53] <goddard> maybe we just need a new file manager
[01:04] <goddard> another gnome bug or whatever you wanna call it
[01:04] <goddard> if you mute the sound
[01:04] <goddard> then hit the up or down volumn buttons on your keyboard it will change the volumn
[01:04] <goddard> when you unmute it it is lower or higher 
[01:05] <goddard> it should give you a visual indicator what the volumn is in that little process bar regardless
[01:05] <goddard> just x the icon out
[01:06] <oerheks> no, that is patented microsoft behaviour
[01:06] <oerheks> silly patents
[01:06] <oerheks> on napkins
[01:07] <sarnold> they were granted a patent for that idea? that seems blindingly obvious
[01:07] <oerheks> like ' start' in a taskbar
[01:08] <oerheks> development can be doom in a patent labyrinth
[01:09] <oerheks> user want; fix is an user theme 😂
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[12:08] <goddard> why does ubuntu upgrader remove old wallpapers?
[12:50] <guiverc> package rules most probably goddard 
[12:50] <guiverc> thanks sarnold 
[12:50] <goddard> do we have historical wallpaper package?
[12:51] <guiverc> there are many... I'm a lover of wallpapers & have loads installed
[12:51] <guiverc> apt-cache search wallpapers
[12:52]  * guiverc thinks why limit yourself to your own flavor, other flavors have great wallpapers too... 
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> there's a launchpad too with the wallpaper packs goddard 
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-wallpapers/+packages
[16:29] <goddard> lotuspsychje: cool thanks
[22:29] <tomreyn> enigma9o7[m]: did you receive my private message?