[00:00] <schurich> arraybolt3[m]: ah oke good to know in case u answer to more people at once
[00:00] <schurich> arraybolt3[m]: alt+c works caster this way then
[00:00] <enigma9o7[m]> Is that a good thing or a bad thing?  I'd imagine it'd work with mkvmerge too, so good job!
[00:01] <gneeriiloeepdeer> its a bad thing. Only reason why I was looking for other apps is because mkvmerge either trims nothing or 10 seconds
[00:01] <gneeriiloeepdeer> nothing is too little, 10 seconds is too much
[00:01] <enigma9o7[m]> with handbrake you can control it to the single frame
[00:02] <enigma9o7[m]> so that should be more effective.  If its not working, is your source more than 10 seconds/frame?  usually its like multiple frames per second.
[00:02] <schurich> i dont like the thing where is everything codelike in linux XD i mean everything in a way have more steps and is a bit more tricky to do
[00:03] <schurich> but i do enjoy a hell multyple windows thing XD
[00:03] <schurich> like multyple homepages
[00:04] <sarnold> gneeriiloeepdeer: so... this is VERY GROSS but the truncate program can just lop bytes off the end of the file. try cutting one kilobyte at a time off the end of the file and see how much that takes off, and iterate until you're done... hopefully you won't crash whatever you use to play the file later :D
[00:04] <schurich> and much more widgets and addons that are quite intresting and usefull
[00:05] <arraybolt3[m]> sarnold: Maybe there's some sort of uncorrupt program that might fix it when it's done?
[00:05] <arraybolt3[m]> schurich: Glad you're liking a lot of it! You won't have to use the command line a lot (unless you end up growing to like it).
[00:05] <sarnold> arraybolt3[m]: that'd be awesome if available; it'd probably just lop off the last ten seconds though, hehe
[00:06] <gneeriiloeepdeer> enigma9o7[m], you were right, I wasnt doing it right, the app works better than mkvmerge for this particular use. thanks!
[00:06] <schurich> i mean whole system of linux is in a way more open as in a way of posebilitys and not limiting user in a way
[00:07] <schurich> but.... to understand it ... it can be quite tricky
[00:07] <gneeriiloeepdeer> thanks sarnold , but no need
[00:07] <arraybolt3[m]> sarnold: Sadly, that's probably true. I'd guess what's gone wrong with the video thing gneeriiloeepdeer it trying to do, is probably the ten seconds of video are all connected together with lossy file compression, and the earliest un-glommed frame is 10 seconds away from the end.
[00:07] <schurich> for example this topbar....
[00:07] <sarnold> arraybolt3[m]: yeah, that's my guess too :(
[00:07] <schurich> its nice unlike windows that u can move that taskbar
[00:08] <schurich> but as for example , to move it u need quite of experiance working with it
[00:08] <arraybolt3[m]> schurich: Hey, glad things are starting to work a bit better. We are in the middle of support sessions, so if we can try to avoid off-topic conversation, that would be helpful. (We generally use this channel for tech support only.)
[00:08] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I just love it when you guys are so helpful :D
[00:08] <schurich> ahh oke thx for warm warning
[00:09] <schurich> anyway let me know in dm if you find way to move bar
[00:09] <arraybolt3[m]> schurich: np, there's #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to continue chat, and don't hesitate to come back if things are still not working.
[00:09] <arraybolt3[m]> schurich: Hold on, there's a link that should have helped...
[00:10] <arraybolt3[m]> schurich: https://linuxhint.com/install-gnome-shell-extensions-ubuntu-22-04/ Does this guide let you install Dash To Panel?
[00:10] <schurich> oh i believe i will be here quite a lot considering my knowledge ... i will need help i think a lot =/
[00:10] <schurich> sec
[00:12] <schurich> oke i can see some things i dont quite get, let me explore a bit situation
[00:12] <schurich> be back to you
[00:15] <goddard> how can i figure out why i am only getting a max 40MBps
[00:15] <enigma9o7[m]> probaly cuz you pay lots to your ISP
[00:16] <enigma9o7[m]> that sounds like about double FTTN
[00:16] <enigma9o7[m]> AT&T U-Verse
[00:19] <goddard> enigma9o7[m]: its only local though
[00:19] <goddard> or at least it should be
[00:19] <goddard> i should have a max speed of 125 MB
[00:20] <jdmark> hermm
[00:20] <jdmark> any good documents for increasing fps?
[00:21] <sarnold> jdmark: check out the gamemode package https://github.com/FeralInteractive/gamemode/
[00:33] <enigma9o7[m]> goddarn yeah ok local should be faster.  unplug your internet to make sure its not related.  i have no idea tho.
[00:42] <clarkk> sarnold, i-garrison arraybolt3[m] thanks for your help earlier, with my bluetooth headphones immediately disconnecting after connecting. I fixed it by uninstalling bluez, bluez-cups, bluez-obexd, gnome-bluetooth, and pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, deleting ~/.config/pulse and /root/.config/pulse, rebooting, reinstalling the packages, rebooting, and then connecting the headphones. Works as expected now
[00:43] <sarnold> clarkk: woot! hopefully the next time around is less horrible...
[00:43] <sarnold> (and I have to imagine there will be a next time, because bluetooth :( )
[00:43] <schurich> oke .... i managed to glitch up something
[00:43] <schurich> i think
[00:44] <clarkk> sarnold, yes. I know you're here a lot, so hopefully you will remember the solution in case anyone else has the same problem
[00:44] <schurich> anyone familiar with GJS app or whatever it is
[00:45] <schurich> i believe it might be ubunt docs feature
[00:45] <schurich> it is dash to dock
[00:45] <schurich> i cant remove it once i used it now
[00:45] <schurich> clicking on X anywhere does nothing
[00:46] <arraybolt3[m]> schurich: Can't you just switch it off in the Extensions app in the app menu?
[00:47] <schurich> its hard to explane situation since its all new to me
[00:47] <schurich> give me a sec ply
[00:52] <schurich> oke so
[00:52] <schurich> its considered as gnome shell actually
[00:53] <schurich> jesus..... linux....
[00:54] <schurich> oke so now i found zip file with name "dash to shell" inside downloads
[00:54] <schurich> which would mean its not part of extension i believe but an add on
[00:54] <schurich> which i cant turn off
[00:54] <schurich> or see settings of it
[00:55] <schurich> here is SS of that addon
[03:51] <angrycoast> test
[04:18] <Guest39> When I try to run apt-get, I get these error messages https://imgur.com/a/nA5rbCO  Is this a known bug?
[04:57] <konrados> WTF... People, trust me, don't click that ^ link
[05:02] <konrados> Hey. I have kubuntu v. 18.04. And I think it's the highest time to upgrade (to 22.04). I have lots of apps, I spent hours and hours on configuring my OS. I know I can do `sudo do-release-upgrade` but... here is my question
[05:03] <konrados> How much of my settings will it keep? Like keyboard shortcuts, screen settings, network settings? Also what about my apps, installed? What about their settings?
[05:05] <konrados> Is it more like 10% or 90%? I'm asking, because I'm considering completely fresh install. If I am supposed to lose most of the customizations then it is not worth imo.
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> konrados: you need to ltsupgrade jump to 20.04 first
[05:14] <konrados> lotuspsychje, ah, yeah, that too, thanks. But what about the... hmm, statistics, how much things will this upgrade keep? What do you thiink?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> konrados: in most cases lts upgrades go pretty well, but its always reccomended to !backup first and read the releasenotes of the ubuntu release you are jumping to, in your case !focal
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> !focal
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> konrados: reading the releasenotes will help you identify cases that 'could' go wrong, known bugs, newly apps, etc
[05:22] <konrados> lotuspsychje, - cool, thank you!
[05:36] <elquacko[m]> greetings
[05:37] <tannera> Hello!
[05:37] <elquacko[m]> how does this work
[05:38] <elquacko[m]> I clicked the irc link on matrix
[05:39] <jdmark> in element?
[05:39] <elquacko[m]> yep
[05:39] <elquacko[m]> how you know? Does it say element over my name?
[05:48] <konrados> Hey again. They say to update and upgrade everything before upgrading Ubuntu. So I'm trying. But now I have a small issue - `apt update` tells me there are 4 packages to upgrade, yet `apt upgrade` tells me: 0 upgraded
[05:48] <konrados> Here it is: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/683ea29065744fe38bec53ec16af3889 - why is that?
[05:51] <alkisg> konrados: don't use apt upgrade, use: sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:51] <alkisg> So as to allow installation of new dependencies etc
[05:52] <konrados> a friend told me apt dist-upgrade, which should I try first? Which is less 'aggressive' :) ?
[05:52] <konrados> alkisg, ^
[05:53] <alkisg> konrados: apt dist-upgrade is just a compatibility name for full-upgrade
[05:53] <alkisg> The normal names are either `apt-get dist-upgrade` or `apt full-upgrade`
[05:53] <konrados> ahhh, ok, thanks alkisg ! Trying...
[05:53] <alkisg> The "dist-upgrade" was scaring some people into thinking it would fetch a newer distribution version, so they renamed it
[05:55] <konrados> yeah, I remember I was scared too a few years ago :) Good they changed it
[05:55] <konrados> but alkisg - I have the same result with 'full-upgrade' :(
[05:55] <konrados> 4 to upgrade, 0 upgraded
[05:56] <alkisg> What's the output of this? apt policy grilo-plugins-0.3-base
[05:59] <konrados> alkisg, - https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/2a1546aa25f94a77918ff7e9e1f4d35a but... I don't need this grilo whatever this is (looks like a lib for 'discovering media...) neither I need this obs studio
[05:59] <konrados> maybe I'll just get rid of that?
[05:59] <konrados> Only not sure what package uses this 'grilo' thing
[06:00] <alkisg> konrados: yeh, it would be a good idea to remove the ppa too
[06:00] <alkisg> Try apt purge --auto-remove right now. If it's sane, go on
[06:00] <alkisg> Then try apt purge --auto-remove obs-studio
[06:00] <alkisg> Then see if that also removed grilo
[06:00] <i-garrison> sarnold: from clarkk experience it looks like the issue is with bluez cache, do you know if reinstalling bluez would delete contents of /var/lib/bluetooth ? If that does not happen I cannot explain the success after reinstalling.
[06:00] <KBar> konrados: the reason is they're phased updates
[06:01] <KBar> konrados: that's why they are not avaiable to upgrade to yet
[06:01] <alkisg> KBar: these versions came from a ppa, not from ubuntu repositories
[06:01] <alkisg>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/savoury1/multimedia/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages
[06:02] <KBar> in that case, disregard what i said
[06:02] <alkisg> 👍️
[06:03] <KBar> konrados: what version of Ubuntu you're currently on?
[06:03] <konrados> KBar, 18.04
[06:04] <KBar> konrados: a fresh install would be a better idea
[06:04] <KBar> (obv after backing up your data)
[06:05] <konrados> alkisg, KBar it's better now - only one package left: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/2812af64d165468db11cd7cf87600b69 - this grilo (whatever it is).
[06:05] <konrados> obs-studio removed with purge
[06:05] <alkisg> konrados: try to purge --auto-remove that one too, but stop if it pulls more things with it
[06:06] <konrados> KBar, well, I'm considering this, but I have so many apps,  so many customizations... that I want to first try this way.
[06:06] <alkisg> konrados: note that you should be able to update to 20.04 now, but not to 22.04 yet; that second update will be enabled in August
[06:07] <KBar> konrados: fair enough. just wanted to throw out a suggestion, as you're 2 lts releases behind
[06:08] <konrados> ok, alkisg so... I'll leave it now, and just install the 20.04. considering I have good internet connection, can you make a guess how long will it take?  Because if it's many hours, then maybe I'll do it before going to sleep :)
[06:08] <alkisg> konrados: no point in installing 20.04. Either upgrade to 20.04, or install 22.04
[06:08] <KBar> konrados: download will depend on your connection, the iso's around 3,5gb. installation takes 15 mins tops
[06:08] <alkisg> Clean installations of 22.04 are supported since april; it's only the release upgrades that need to hold until august
[06:08] <KBar> yes. a fresh install of 22.04 is best option
[06:09] <alkisg> Personally I'd suggest to upgrade, but it's not a big deal either way as you can keep /home/username and the user settings
[06:09] <konrados> KBar, yeah, thanks... I have backups of everything, in case the 'upgrade' won't work, I'll do the fresh install.
[06:10] <KBar> it should work. it's just you're gonna have to go through it again in august so :)
[06:10] <konrados> OK, so thank you alkisg KBar - I will try to upgrade to 20.04 and see how it's going, in case it won't work, I'll do the fresh install.
[06:10] <KBar> sounds reasonable. gl
[06:11] <alkisg> 👍️
[06:11] <konrados> Thanks :)
[06:43] <konrados> alkisg, KBar I don't get it:( Everyone says to do `sudo do-release-upgrade` and that this will upgrade to the newest LTS. But I can't find how do I tell it to upgrade only to 20.04 o.O
[06:43] <alkisg> konrados: just run it, it doesn't need any parameters
[06:44] <alkisg> It knows what it's supposed to do ;)
[06:44] <konrados> alkisg, but it will upgrade to 22.04 right? Which I don't want...
[06:44] <konrados> ah, ok, doing :)
[06:44] <alkisg> No, it will upgrade to 20.04
[06:44] <konrados> ok :) thanks, doing! Ha, I'm so brave :)
[06:44] <KBar> konrados: you can't skip releases.
[06:45] <konrados> right
[06:45] <KBar> konrados: so from 18.04 only 20.04 is available
[06:45] <konrados> 👍️
[06:46] <konrados> ehh, seems like I do need to remove this grillo... : 'Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.'
[06:51] <konrados> did it, and now 0 to update :) and.... it started :)
[06:51] <nulldoot> ubuntu processing very slow when not plugged in charger
[06:51] <nulldoot> how can i fix that
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> define 'processing' nulldoot
[06:53] <nulldoot> yes, how can
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> !details | nulldoot matter
[06:53] <KBar> nulldoot: alright. Since you didn't provide details and want a quick answer, here you go: you need more RAM.
[06:54] <nulldoot> i use RAM 16Gb
[06:55] <konrados> isn't this some sort of 'save energy when on battery' setting? I don't know, I don't use laptops :) Although the company I just got job in, wants me to force to use one... :)
[06:56] <nulldoot> Before I used windows, the computer's processing speed was very fast, but when I switched to linux ubuntu operating system, I found the problem here is that this operating system makes my laptop handle very badly. slow, moving folders or opening applications... is very slow, that makes me have to plug the laptop charger into the computer, then the performance of my computer can be used smoothly and quickly.
[06:56] <KBar> konrados: shouldn't that be the opposite: "Save power when not plugged in"?
[06:57] <nulldoot> I want the system to handle quickly and smoothly without charging the battery
[06:57] <nulldoot> and how can i do it
[06:57] <KBar> nulldoot: I'm sorry but this still doesn't give a whole lot of details. You might want to go back to Windows.
[06:58] <konrados> KBar,  yeah yeah, I'm a bit nervous looking at my console, so many changes, jeeeee
[06:58] <nulldoot> no, i dont want back to windows :(
[06:59] <KBar> nulldoot: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:59] <nulldoot> ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[07:00] <tannera> Does changing the power mode help at all? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-profile.html.en
[07:01] <KBar> nulldoot: ^ go to Settings > Power and try selecting Balanced
[07:01] <KBar> or anything but "Power Saver"
[07:02] <nulldoot> srr but i dont see power save
[07:03] <nulldoot> https://imgur.com/oybhbzQ
[07:04] <nulldoot> I don't want to have to plug in the charger constantly when using ubuntu :(
[07:05] <KBar> nulldoot: we get it.
[07:08] <konrados> nulldoot, I don't have 20.x (yet :)), and I don't use gnome, but internet says you to press the 'super' (meta) button (activities) and then type 'power' and start it
[07:10] <konrados> I have never seen so many upgraded packages in my life, it's hundreds and hundreds... I'll be surprised if this will work :)
[07:32] <imi> in earlier kernels there were an ignore_nice_load floag in cpufreq. can I somehow make my linux-5-15-0 (jammy up to date) ignore nice load?
[07:37] <konrados> Ha ha! 'System upgrade is complete. Restart required'. I'll be back. I hope :) In case I won't - thanks again, alkisg , KBar :)
[07:40] <alkisg> 👍️
[07:46] <konrados> I'm back, and it's working just fine :) That is so cool :)
[07:50] <KBar> konrados: awesome! grats
[07:50] <konrados> :) Now it's time for 22 :)
[07:50] <KBar> konrados: not now. It'll be available to upgrade to in August
[07:51] <konrados> oh, that part is something I did not understand, the website says it's is available now... doesn't it?
[07:52] <KBar> konrados: it's available as a fresh install.
[07:53] <konrados> KBar,  Ah... now I get it. OK, so I'll have to wait, do you know what day in August, or how can I find this info?
[07:53] <KBar> konrados: upgrade from 20.04 will be available once the first point release is up. One of the reasons/justifications for this is that older LTS releases are stable, while the new ones might have some irregularities here and there. If it was forced upon on all users, many of them will remain unhappy because of losing that stability. I believe this practice comes from Debian.
[07:54] <KBar> konrados: was scheduled to August 4, last I've heard.
[07:56] <konrados> KBar, ok, I'll wait, thanks for everything!
[07:56] <konrados> I have a nice day!
[07:56] <KBar> konrados: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-22-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/29102 & don't mention it. You did the heavylifting :)
[08:03] <konrados> hm, ok. BTW, I meant: *and* have a nice day :) I need to enter sleep mode now, have been doing my stuff since 22h now o.O But I'm happy as hell. I was delaying this upgrade since 2 years :)
[08:03] <KBar> konrados: to sum it up: 1) let's release a new LTS; 2) but actually, don't allow upgrades to it yet; 3) let's iron things out, eliminate critical bugs from the new features we have introduced and prepare the new LTS for upgrading; 4) first point release - major bugs eliminated, the release is stable enough to upgrade to; 5) let's allow upgrading and celebrate. One of the new features in 22.04 which comes to mind is switching from PulseAu
[08:03] <KBar> dio to Pipewire. Now, I didn't keep track of the process, but imagine if it had a major bug that caused all audio devices to misbehave. Humans are curious beings, and if we were never put such a restriction, everybody and their mother would decide "Hey, new version of Ubuntu. Let's upgrade!!" without thinking of the consequences. And that's how you end up with millions of users on a buggy piece of software who now are angry at the develo
[08:03] <KBar> pers.
[08:05] <konrados> Looks like a good decision to me, isn't it, KBar?
[08:05] <KBar> it sure is
[08:06] <konrados> Right. Need to take some sleep now, thanks again for everything!
[08:21] <elquacko[m]> Any good guides to making KVMs on ubuntu 22.04 lts on a single gpu?
[08:22] <alkisg> elquacko: what do you mean with "make kvm"? You want to use qemu-kvm to create a virtual machine with gpu passthrough?
[08:22] <elquacko[m]> yes
[08:22] <alkisg> What's the guest oS?
[08:22] <elquacko[m]> is that not the correct term for it?
[08:22] <alkisg> Create a VM is more appropriate
[08:23] <elquacko[m]> I want to create 2 win 10 machines
[08:23] <elquacko[m]> Is it possible to make the storage dynamic or will it be restricted to a fixed state
[08:23] <elquacko[m]> * fixed state?
[08:24] <alkisg> I think virtualbox would be more appropriate for that
[08:24] <elquacko[m]> Well whichever provides the most performance is good to me
[08:25] <elquacko[m]> But don't most people do qemu?
[08:26] <KBar> You can use what "most people" use, or you can use "whichever provides the most performance", you can also use "whichever fits your use case". These may or may not overlap
[08:26] <elquacko[m]> Oh I thought the solution that most people use is the most performance
[08:28] <alkisg> I don't think most people use qemu for windows but for linux; not sure though
[08:28] <elquacko[m]> wait when you asked for my os do you mean the host machine os? or what I want the vm os to be?
[08:29] <KBar> elquacko[m]: host means host, your physical OS. guest means the OS in your VM
[08:30] <elquacko[m]> Yeah that's what I thought
[08:30] <elquacko[m]> Yeah to be clear, my host OS is Ubuntu and I want my guests to be running windows 10
[08:31] <alkisg> Yeh, I think virtualbox would work better for that
[08:31] <tannera> I'd probably use virtualbox for that, it should allow you to have dynamic storage as well
[08:31] <elquacko[m]> Interesting
[08:31] <elquacko[m]> For gaming?
[08:31] <KBar> What?
[08:32] <elquacko[m]> I want to use one of the vms for gaming
[08:32] <KBar> I've never heard someone do that. That'll severely hinder the performance. Why not Steam Proton?
[08:33] <tannera> Do you have a second GPU you plan to passthrough?
[08:33] <KBar> elquacko[m]: Steam Play (PROTON), Lutris, PlayOnLinux, plain Wine will let you play games for Windows like it's nothing.
[08:33] <elquacko[m]> tannera: No :(
[08:33] <tannera> You will not be gaming on those vms then unfortunately
[08:33] <elquacko[m]> KBar: Yeah but some games won't run on linux though
[08:34] <elquacko[m]> tannera: damn that sucks
[08:34] <KBar> elquacko[m]: most don't, that's why Wine exists.
[08:34] <KBar> It emulates Windows runtime
[08:34] <elquacko[m]> I did not know that
[08:34] <elquacko[m]> But I still want to my stuff compartmentalized so my stuff is secure
[08:35] <elquacko[m]> That's why I still want vms
[08:36] <elquacko[m]> alkisg: Is virtualbox the best performance hypervisor for this?
[08:37] <elquacko[m]> What's wrong with vmware and other ones people use
 "elquacko: Steam Play (PROTON..." <- what about games like valorant and cod
[08:39] <KBar> elquacko[m]: check protondb.
[08:39] <elquacko[m]> Not that I can play valorant or cod on vm anyways I'm pretty sure we can't do that
[08:41] <KBar> elquacko[m]: https://www.protondb.com/app/7940 https://www.protondb.com/app/10180
[08:41] <elquacko[m]> Thanks
[08:43] <alkisg> elquacko: also consider the opposite, for your windows to be the host OS, since that's where you want your gaming to happen (=more difficult), and ubuntu can be dual boot or VM
[08:44] <alkisg> GPU passthrough or graphics acceleration is doable but it comes with many quirks; not all games will be playable
[08:45] <elquacko[m]> Did a bit more digging and people say proxmox has good performance
[08:46] <elquacko[m]> Nvm
[08:48] <elquacko[m]> But yeah why can't I do single gpu passthrough with qemu
[08:50] <willjr> hello, I have set up internet connection sharing on a server that is connected to the internet via wifi and shared with the ethernet port. I have used NetworkManager and set the ethernet port to shared. The server is connected to a router's WAN port which is able to successfully get a dhcp lease and provide internet to the clients connected to it.
[08:50] <willjr> I want to forward all tcp/udp from the wifi connection to the ethernet connection and need assistance setting it up with iptables
[08:52] <tannera> elquacko: because the gpu can only be connected to one machine at a time
[08:52] <tannera> You simply cannot.
[08:52] <elquacko[m]> darn it
[08:52] <willjr> to confirm that connectivity is working, I set up port forwarding on the router to allow https and set up rinetd to forward 443 to a target server specifically - this works, but rinetd will only allow specific tcp ports - I need the server to forward all traffic from the wifi interface to the ethernet interface and let the router do any necessary
[08:52] <willjr> port forwarding
[08:53] <duuude> Skipping BTF generation [my module name] due to unavailabilty of vmlinux
[08:53] <elquacko[m]> tannera: Alright what about this my host machine can use my integrated graphics and gaming can use gpu?
[08:55] <duuude> compiling a module fails because there is no vmlinux
[08:55] <tannera> Elquacko: That might work but then I think you need to use KVM. I found a guide that may help: https://szibele.com/gpu-passthrough-using-qemu-and-kvm/
[08:56] <duuude> google says to symlink it but it didn't solve it
[08:57] <elquacko[m]> tannera: where does it say how to set up with integrated graphics
[08:57] <elquacko[m]> It says I need 2 gpus
[08:57] <tannera> If you have integrated graphics and a dedicated gpu then you have 2 gpus
[09:00] <elquacko[m]> this shit seems complicated
 "Elquacko: That might work but..." <- When I turn on vm can I use gpu for host machine?
[09:02] <tannera> Yes it is quite complicated, I just dual boot instead which works great. It looks like you need to stop the drivers loading on your host machine completely so you will only be able to use the gpu with the virtual machine
[09:02] <tannera> Also you will need to swap the cable going to your monitor if you are on a desktop to the one on the motherboard instead of gpu
[09:06] <elquacko[m]> I don't know if I want to do this
[09:06] <elquacko[m]> Dual booting is a bit of a hassle I want to have both systems running at the same time
[09:07] <tannera> You can use the vm without passthrough but you won't be able to game on it
[09:10] <elquacko[m]> I might have to go through with this if I want to game then
[09:10] <elquacko[m]> Sometimes me and my friends play indie games and stuff and they probably won't work on linux
[09:13] <tannera> Pretty well every game I've tried to run has run
[10:25] <NetEcho> Good morning folks, I seem to have a problem with name resolution and every time I try to fix resolv.conf it gets overwritten when I restart systemd-resolved.service Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[10:25] <NetEcho> + server
[10:28] <zaggynl> NetEcho: I believe it's done in the config file(s) in /etc/netplan
[10:28] <NetEcho> zaggynl: thank you I'll check that now
[10:29] <NetEcho> zaggynl: oddly enough leaving it alone for around 10 minutes caused it to fix itself and sort out name resolution... all this thanks to a nationwide 24+ hour outage heh
[10:30] <zaggynl> was that the rogers isp thing?
[10:30] <NetEcho> my isp's nameservers appear to still be affected so I was trying to force everything to use 8.8.8.8
[10:30] <NetEcho> zaggynl: yup
[10:31] <NetEcho> damn near crippled the country lol
[10:31] <NetEcho> thank god my wife still keeps cash on hand
[10:32] <zaggynl> haven't really seen in in the news, just noticed some posts
[11:35] <jkkt> Podman search doesn't work in ubuntu 22.04
[11:35] <jkkt> How to fix this?
[11:56] <dngian5x[m]> Hello there
[11:56] <luna__> hey
[12:21] <konrados> Hey, not that this is important, but I'm curious. I did `apt upgrade`, the only thing upgraded was 'mypaint', and I got an information in a popup "A system restart is needed to complete the update process" :) Why? Because of upgrading some graphics editor?
[12:24] <ravage> konrados, if you really want to know why you can install "needrestart"
[12:27] <konrados> ravage, thanks! Installed and it seems there are lots of things, not related to 'mypaint', so it's just a coincidence, that this notification appeared after this small upgrade :) Thanks again!
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:39] <luna__> hi
[12:46] <guiverc> thanks too ravage ; I didn't know about needrestart :)
[12:47] <ravage> thanks. and forward to sarnold. i think he mentioned it a while back here :D
[15:44] <nunya> I am copying files from one usb hard drive to another. When done copying which hd should I safely remove/eject first?
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> nunya: if you're on gnome, you would get a notify when you can safe plug out hardware
[15:47] <nunya> lotuspsychje: Not sure what besides Ubuntu 20.04 and using Thunar 1.8.14 as file manager.
[15:48] <nunya> lotuspsychje: I do get a notification when files are done copying.
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> nunya: after your transfer is done, eject your usb HD and you should get a notify from 20.04's gnome
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> didnt test thunar much myself, but i bet it also has an unmount button
[15:50] <nunya> lotuspsychje: I am using 2 USB HDs I just want to make sure one isn't still writing when I eject the other, don't want to corrupt files or disk.
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> nunya: you said you get a notify when transfer is complete so, after that it would be safe
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> nunya: just dont uplug them when you dont get the notify its safe to remove them
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> *unplug
[15:53] <nunya> lotuspsychje: Thanks! Also do you know of some good file recovery applications that restore to original file name?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> nunya: the best data recovery (in my opinion) would be photorec, but that doesnt restore them in original filenames
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | nunya
[15:56] <nunya> lotuspsychje: I "lost" some data one time and when I tried to restore 50 GB of files they all have numerical names. I had no idea which file was which. It seems like someone would have come up with a solution to this problem.
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> nunya: what i suggest, is you setup photorec for only the extensions you're after, like .jpg .mp4 .mov etc, saves you tons of junk recovery after
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> nunya: then let your file manager sort them by biggest files ontop, filters the junk .jpgs down from system you dont need
[15:59] <nunya> lotuspsychje: They were all the same file type but 50 GB of ogg files is a large number of files to have to rename.
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> i know its a feature photorec is missing, a bit anoying, but on the bright side you will have your lost files back
[16:00] <nunya> lotuspsychje: Hence the paranoia of ever corrupting a drive again.
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> what do you mean with corrupting nunya
[16:02] <nunya> I went to open USB drive and it didn't open properly had to use testdisk on it to recover files.
[16:03] <oerheks> testdisk does not restore filenames indeed.
[16:03] <oerheks> sad, but at least you have the data to work with.
[16:05] <nunya> If I was a programmer I'd definitely work on a file restoration program that restored to orignal file name! That is my challenge to the Linux Community!
[16:05] <oerheks> go for it!
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> nunya: or go for a testdisk wishlist bug, ill back your idea up!
[16:08] <nunya> I am not a programmer. I am an amateur hack at best! I have combined a few bash commands into a script a few times for stuff like timed suspend or shutdown and custom luncers through Alacarte. That's as sophisticated as I've gotten.
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> nunya: didnt test myself, but this looks interesting too; https://github.com/tfrdidi/sort-PhotorecRecoveredFiles
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> sounds like a good idea to me
[16:14] <nunya> I will file a testdisk wishlist bug later. I don't want to do any internet browsing while transferring files from USB to USB drive. My system got frozen like that once. Keyboard, mouse, unresponsive. Only option I knew was hard power down. That's how I "lost" those files. Now I know I should just wait a few hours to see if programs eventually get dumped out of memory if that ever happens again.
[16:15] <nunya> lotuspsychje: I will save the link to a text file to check out later.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> nunya: depending on the state of your hd(s) file transfers can always be risky
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> the safer aproach would be transfering data in blocks, one folder at time for example
[16:17] <jhutchins> nunya: May I suggest some reading about filesystems and how they work?
[16:17] <nunya> lotuspsychje: that's why I have multiple backup drives for the same files.
[16:20] <nunya> lotuspsychje: I have started using that approach, at least one category at a time like Documents folder, then transfer Music, Pictures, etc...
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> good good
[16:21] <nunya> If I had more than one SATA slot in my laptop I wouldn't use USB at all.
[16:22] <nunya> Thanks for the help! Have a good day! My files are almost copied. Time to go catch some waves!
[16:32] <XoloX> Hello. I want to install Home Assistant Core on Ubuntu. I have an old laptop, screen was broken so I took it off. Put Ubuntu on it. It's just running as a Plex server now. I want to add Home Assistant Core. In the documentation it tells to make a new account for it using "sudo useradd -rm homeassistant". I have a hard time why I need to make a new
[16:32] <XoloX> account (this is a user account in Ubuntu afaik). It seems simpler to me to keep everything in 1 account. (user: XoloX, password: qwerty). https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-core
[16:36] <oerheks> XoloX, well, try that? i think you should follow the manual, add that user without homefolder, etc
[16:36] <XoloX> Why do you think I should add the extra user? Just trying to understand the why?
[16:37] <oerheks> their page says; account is only for running Home Assistant Core
[16:38] <oerheks> if you want to combine your plex with homeassistant, do so?
[16:38] <XoloX> I guess I will follow the manual. But will I get in trouble because I'm using putty to send the commands. There I am logged in as XoloX.
[17:39] <jailbreak> Hi :-) where do I put files that I want to run via bash? I thought it was /usr/local/bin/ but it's not. it's been a few months since I played with ubuntu.
[17:41] <jailbreak> NVM!!!
[17:53] <OpenNICGuest14> hi
[17:58] <jwash> hi guys, new installation of 20.04. i can not reliably connect to the internet. sometimes sites can not be reached, then they can again after a bit
[18:10] <cbreak> jwash: weird... did you find out if the problem is with DNS, or the network routing, or the network itself?
[18:10] <jwash> network is good
[18:10] <jwash> this is the only computer experiencing the issue
[18:10] <jwash> i've rotated dns servers endlessly
[18:22] <ravage> jwash, just out of curiosity: why a new installation of 20.04 and not 22.04?
[18:28] <jwash> because i had it on a thumb drive already
[18:29] <jwash> i'm starting to hate computers
[18:29] <jwash> waste of effort
[18:29] <ravage> totally
[18:40] <cbreak> computers are not evil. No reason to hate them.
[19:26] <schurich> hey all
[19:26] <duuude> People, has anyone encountered this?
[19:26] <schurich> i fk up i think , and i dont know how but i cant open either mozila, discord, ubuntu sftware.......
[19:27] <jhutchins> duuude: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:27] <duuude> Wifi being detected but not finding anything
[19:27] <schurich> i couldnt open software at first then i restarted PC now i cant open almost anything
[19:27] <duuude> and it works in Windows
[19:28] <jhutchins> jwash: Sorry, wrong questions I guess.  Have you looked at dmesg?  Journalctl?
[19:28] <jhutchins> jwash: And now I get the wrong nic.
[19:29] <jhutchins> duuude: dmesg, journalctl.
[19:29] <Psil0[m]> duuude: what exactly
[19:29] <jhutchins> duuude: What happens if you use manual host file entries?
[19:29] <galdoz> .
[19:29] <toddc> duuude: start with this to find out what kind of wifi card and some driver info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:40] <duuude> jhutchins: well, that is not me, just asked if anyone has seen that for the time being
[19:41] <jhutchins> duuude: Ok, it was jwash.
[19:41] <jhutchins> He's not anwering anybody either.
[19:47] <duuude> I mean, the person having the problem
[19:50] <Psil0[m]> So might be well
[20:23] <abhiii_13> .
[20:23] <schurich> did anyone had issue that he cant open multyple softweres like discord / ubunts software / firefox.....
[20:24] <schurich> i even tryed jelly update and nothing as well i tryed changed in log in screen to another ubunts version or whatever that is
[20:24] <tomreyn> schurich: which ubuntu version are you running there?
[20:25] <schurich> i am thinking of throwing laptop through windos.... maybe that helps... =/
[20:25] <schurich> 42.04
[20:25] <tomreyn> schurich: this doesn't exist. do you need help finding out?
[20:25] <schurich> sec plz
[20:25] <tomreyn> open a terminal and type:  lsb_release -ds
[20:25] <schurich> its latest one
[20:26] <schurich> 22.04
[20:26] <tomreyn> let's see your kernel log:  journalctl -k | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:27] <tomreyn> when did these problems start occurring - can you correlate it to any other event, such as upgrading ubuntu, adding new software sources, the computer generally becoming less reliable etc?
[20:28] <schurich> journalctl -k | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:28] <schurich> damn sec
[20:28] <schurich> https://termbin.com/g40gx
[20:29] <schurich> i just noticed that for last 12 or 24 h i dont have that bar that u get on left popup buble bar
[20:29] <schurich> and now i tryed to add new and tryed get to the ubunt software to look for one
[20:29] <schurich> and i couldnt enter as it just did basic loading of it and nothing
[20:29] <schurich> i restarted laptop
[20:30] <schurich> afterwords i couldnt open either discord or firefox aditionaly
[20:30] <schurich> as i tryed close all extensions but still same
[20:30] <schurich> yea "Dock" was missing
[20:31] <tomreyn> which graphical desktop are you using then?
[20:31] <schurich> actualy not dock ...
[20:31] <schurich> graphical desktop ?
[20:32] <tomreyn> yes, like the default (gnome-shell + mutter), kde/plasma, xfce/xfwm etc
[20:32] <schurich> ugh sorry i am not that much into it
[20:32] <schurich> i have cheep laptop
[20:32] <schurich> sec
[20:32] <tomreyn> ok, no worries
[20:33] <schurich> Lenovo IdeaPad 3 15ITL6
[20:33] <tomreyn> the kernel log shows some problems with getting information from the bios via acpi tables, but no hardware issues
[20:33] <tomreyn> LENOVO 82H8/LNVNB161216, BIOS GGCN29WW 08/18/2021
[20:34] <schurich> i dont think i do have hardware issues since pc doesnt seem to either overheat or have some wierd visuals or act wierd
[20:34] <tomreyn> you might want to look for another bios upgrade. but that's most likely unrelated to the issues you were reporting
[20:35] <schurich> whats most stable linux ?
[20:35] <tomreyn> we only support ubuntu here, and that can be very stable
[20:35] <schurich> i think i will change version since this is way too new and as i saw quite bugged in difficult way for me as newbie to use it
[20:35] <enigma9o7[m]> the LTS versions don't change too much and thus are more stable than the not LTS releases.
[20:36] <schurich> yea but maybe get older version and not update it?
[20:36] <schurich> then great
[20:36] <schurich> i guess one more try of fresh reinstal
[20:38] <MaNa2k> anyone here can help me ssh into linux lite with windows using putty?
[20:38] <MaNa2k> this is on my local network
[20:39] <MaNa2k> ive pasted the local ip of the linux machine, but the connection gets disconnected by remote computer
[20:39] <tomreyn> schurich: just reinstalling won't likely help, unless you did something to break the installation after install
[20:39] <MaNa2k> "Network error: Connection refused"
[20:39] <MaNa2k> is what i get
[20:40] <schurich> i was just dling extensions from software and extansions browsvare
[20:40] <MaNa2k> i disabled the firewall on the remote linux pc, but still getting that message
[20:40] <tomreyn> schurich: what kind of extensions?
[20:40] <schurich> clipboard history
[20:40] <schurich> dash to panel
[20:40] <schurich> date menu formatter
[20:41] <schurich> gnome shell
[20:41] <schurich> battery icon chnager
[20:41] <tomreyn> schurich: gnome-shell extensions are known to easily break your graphical desktop if they're not well written and compatible to those you already have, and to the gnome version you have. be careful with those.
[20:42] <schurich> so shell i delete it ?
[20:42] <tomreyn> MaNa2k: which of these systems runs ubuntu?
[20:43] <MaNa2k> the remote pc runst linux lite which is based on ubuntu, and im trying to use a windows machine to ssh into that linux machhine
[20:43] <tomreyn> schurich: disabling or removing these gnome-shell extensions and logging out and back in again should make the graphical desktop stable again
[20:43] <schurich> kk thx will try
[20:44] <tomreyn> MaNa2k: we only support ubuntu on this channel, not "based on ubuntu"
[20:44] <MaNa2k> tomreyn, ah i see. but isnt the solution universal ?
[20:45] <tomreyn> MaNa2k: maybe, maybe not. it's not something most of the volunteers here want to invest time into debugging to find out after some hours that your system behaves different because it's not ubuntu. this happened many times before.
[20:45] <schurich> im back
[20:45] <schurich> it didnt help
[20:46] <schurich> and btw dock thats showing applications doesnt have any application on it and he stays under workplace always
[20:46] <tomreyn> schurich: how do you tell it did not help?
[20:46] <tomreyn> okay i guess you just answered this
[20:47] <jhutchins> MaNa2k: If you launch putty from a command line you can add -v options to get more information on what's wrong.  My guess would be miss-matched protocols.
[20:47] <schurich> discord / firefox  ubunt softwere cant be opened
[20:47] <schurich> it loads them and close them
[20:47] <tomreyn> schurich: try with a new user account, and try running these softwares from a terminal window
[20:48] <schurich> kk
[20:48] <tomreyn> and make sure your disk has not run full
[20:48] <enigma9o7[m]> mana2k: just checking the obvious, you did install ssh on the server?
[20:48] <schurich> i have like 50 GB out of 500
[20:49] <schurich> ahhh ye one more HUGE issue
[20:49] <schurich> terminal doesnt allow me to write password when it asks
[20:49] <schurich> only thing i can do is click enter
[20:49] <enigma9o7[m]> type your password first
[20:49] <enigma9o7[m]> then press enter
[20:49] <enigma9o7[m]> it'll work better
[20:49] <mickey> any idea about very weak microphone volume with 22.04 on a laptop? alsamixer shows all bars at 100%
[20:49] <schurich> jesus
[20:49] <mickey> if alsamixer is even related to the microphone
[20:49] <tomreyn> !password | schurich
[20:50] <schurich> enigma i didnt think so smart people use linux....
[20:50] <mickey> it worked well with windows so its not a hardware issue
[20:50] <tomreyn> schurich: you just don't see the letters as you type them into the password prompt, that's normal
[20:50] <ravage> mickey, try pavucontrol
[20:50] <schurich> terminal DOESNT LET ME TO WRITE my password or anything else then enter
[20:50] <schurich> its always incorect
[20:50] <enigma9o7[m]> how can it not LET YOU WRITE IT
[20:50] <enigma9o7[m]> just do it anyway
[20:50] <enigma9o7[m]> it cant stop your fingers
[20:50] <schurich> kk
[20:51] <schurich> oke i am dumb and i am sorry for acting agressive .... i am quite annoyed because ii have laptop for 3 days and its allready broken -.-
[20:52] <schurich> yea i was writing it but it didnt show -.-
[20:52] <tomreyn> it's been this way on ubuntu for decades, i think. it's entirely normal.
[20:53] <jhutchins> surskit: Usually your password is not displayed whenyou enter it at a console login.  Your user name should show.
[20:53] <tomreyn> schurich: it's to prevent someone shoulder surfing you from knowing how long your password is, which makes it much easier to brute force it.
[20:53] <schurich> oke , may you tell me command for firefox to open
[20:54] <enigma9o7[m]> firefox
[20:54] <schurich> sudo open firefox ?
[20:54] <mickey> ravage even at 150% it's still very low
[20:54] <enigma9o7[m]> no, never use sudo on graphical applications
[20:54] <jhutchins> schurich: please don't run firefox with sudo.
[20:54] <schurich> lol
[20:54] <ravage> mickey, alsamixer may actually have a mic boost somewhere. did you try to enable that?
[20:54] <enigma9o7[m]> only use sudo when absolutely necessary, for messing with files outside of your home folder only (i.e. installing stuff for all users)
[20:55] <schurich> it say no souch file or directory exists
[20:55] <schurich> i wrote just : Open Firefox
[20:55] <jhutchins> schurich: "open" is usually not a valid command.
[20:55] <enigma9o7[m]> that sounds like dos
[20:55] <enigma9o7[m]> who said Open Firefox?  I said 'firefox'
[20:55] <schurich> ahh lol
[20:55] <schurich> i need to get use to this -.-
[20:55] <jhutchins> We've all gotta start somewhere...
[20:56] <mickey> ravage it says headphone mic boost at 30. not sure why it'd say headphone to begin with, it's built in the hardware but anyway it doesnt help
[20:56] <mickey> 30 out of 30.
[20:56] <schurich> ERROR: not connected to the gnome-3-38-2004 content interface.
[20:56] <enigma9o7[m]> sounds like snap related
[20:56] <schurich> same with discord
[20:57] <tomreyn> yes, this should not happen on a fresh install.
[20:57] <enigma9o7[m]> well it shouldnt happen ever should it?
[20:57] <ravage> mickey, i did not use an internal mic for a long time. but my guess it that it is something special to your audio device/chip. did you look that up? lookup my pci id or name i mean
[20:58] <schurich> reinstal ?
[20:58] <schurich> i still didnt try on other account
[20:58] <mickey> ravage im not sure what you mean. i dont have anything exotic here, just a dell laptop
[20:58] <tomreyn> enigma9o7[m]: i guess it should happen if you disconnected these application snaps off the gnome-3-38-2004 snap
[20:58] <schurich> yea but how did that happend -.-
[20:59] <MaNa2k> tomreyn, jhutchins, enigma9o7[m], sorry, was afk for a bit. well no i didnt install ssh on the server lol, that might be the problem. im actually new to linux. but when i type ssh in the terminal i get this random lookin info, so i thought it might be installed
[20:59] <schurich> as well my sidebar with activitys and apps is hiden under one of the screen windows
[20:59] <mickey> ravage it's an ALC3204 according to dmesg, i believe
[21:00] <MaNa2k> anyway you guys wouldnt happen to konw if there any irc community for linux lite ?
[21:00] <MaNa2k> channel
[21:00] <tomreyn> schurich: i think the easiest thing you can do is a fresh install, with a well-made and verified installer, from a well-downloaded and verified iso.
[21:01] <enigma9o7[m]> yeah mana its probably installed, you'd wanna make sure `sshd` is running, thats the deamon (server) side of it.   if you just type `sshd` if its already running it'll respond with `sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path`
[21:01] <schurich> i think i did it from ubunts website
[21:01] <tomreyn> MaNa2k: you could start here https://www.linuxliteos.com/support.html
[21:02] <MaNa2k> thanks
[21:02] <tomreyn> !alis | MaNa2k
[21:02] <tomreyn> MaNa2k: there is also ##linux, which is for multiple derivatives
[21:02] <tomreyn> actually just #linux
[21:02] <MaNa2k> yea i joined that
[21:03] <mickey> anyone has an idea? this is killing me
[21:03] <MaNa2k> tried asking the question here since it was based on ubuntu, anyway thanks for the help so far
[21:05] <jhutchins> MaNa2k: ssh is the command to launch the client.  Installing/launching the server is different.
[21:05] <tomreyn> MaNa2k: we'll be happy to support you when you run ubuntu
[21:05] <MaNa2k> i see i see
[21:05] <MaNa2k> im looking into it now on checking the ssh server. thanks
[21:08] <tomreyn> schurich: if you'll reinstall, i recommend verifying the downloaded iso checksum as explained on the download page, then writing the iso to usb stick using the "balena etcher" software, which automatically verifies the data written.
[21:08] <schurich> yea about that....
[21:09] <schurich> i can only use android usb boot maker apps
[21:09] <tomreyn> schurich: and don't install any gnome-shell extensions when you do. just get used to the system as it is first of all.
[21:09] <schurich> reminder i cant open web browser
[21:09] <schurich> ahh jesus
[21:10] <schurich> top bar on top ? come on..... its not roof to be on top
[21:10] <MaNa2k> yeeea, ssh working now
[21:10] <schurich> i wount go with ubunt then i guess
[21:10] <MaNa2k> just needed to install the sshd
[21:10]  * tomreyn bbl
[21:11] <schurich> will find some other i guess
[21:11] <MaNa2k> this line did the trick, "sudo apt install openssh-server"
[21:11] <schurich> bye thx for your time
[21:11] <ravage> good luck
[21:13] <enigma9o7[m]> schurich: if you need a temp alternative, you could install a non snap browser, i.e. `sudo apt install epiphany-browser`
[21:15] <schurich> oh yea thx on that
[21:20] <schurich> thx this browser works
[21:39] <PeGaSuS> so, for some weird reason I still don't have autocompletion on my Ubuntu 22.04 server when comes to snap packages. ive just tried `snap install --classic certb<tab>` which should've autocomplete to `snap install --classic certbot` but it didn't autocompleted
[21:40] <PeGaSuS> same goes for snap packages like firefox, etc. what am I missing here?
[21:46] <transhumanist> so I finally figured out how to access guest vms on ubuntu multipass if networking is broken, simple... there is a mount command for mulitpass called "sudo multipass mount" they are built on LXD/LXC or KVM or one of several others and are mountable in these systems as well(depending which platform it was originally made for)
[22:05] <transhumanist> nm that mounts a folder into the guest not mounts the guest img