[01:31] <bluehoney> I've recently installed a new GPU and got the Ubuntu deb file from the manufacturer, went ahead and installed it. How do I know that my system is using this driver as opposed to whatever old one it used to manage a graphical display?
[01:32] <bluehoney> (Ubuntu deb file for the driver)
[01:34] <meethos1> how do you expand openssl ciphers? i enabled crypto-policies and updated it, but openssl ciphers -s -v doesnt seem to add the new ciphers i updated
[01:41] <meethos1> [('SSL routines', 'SSL_CTX_use_certificate', 'ee key too small')]
[01:48] <tomreyn> bluehoney: most of the time, you should not use drivers downloaded from the manufacturers website, but use those ubuntu provides. which model are we talking about?
[01:49] <bluehoney> tomreyn: MSI AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT
[01:49] <tomreyn> !amd | bluehoney
[01:53] <bluehoney> I do have an amdgpu package. I guess why I was wondering was because since the new GPU, "energy screen saving" (Kubuntu/Plasma) initiates, but then afterward the monitor will no longer recover, probably failing to get input. Perhaps a Plasma issue, but I thought it could also be a driver problem
[01:54] <bluehoney> I am guessing if I have amdgpu, then my system by default uses that?
[01:55] <tomreyn> bluehoney: it will, unless you install some other driver which will prevent the system from using it
[01:55] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version is this?
[01:56] <ravage> the card should be well supported in 22.04. it was released last year and is supported since kernel 5.13
[01:56] <tomreyn> bluehoney: and what's the amdgpu package you have installed?
[01:56] <bluehoney> tomreyn: jammy whatever, the newest LTS. Is there a way to clearly see what driver I'm using? I've seen "lshw -c video" suggested to find what driver is being used, but that doesn't really give good information as far as I can tell
[01:58] <tomreyn> you'd need to look through the journal to see how your graphics stack is being initialized to make sure
[01:58] <ravage> glxinfo|grep vendor
[01:58] <ravage> may give you a clue
[01:58] <ravage> it should be MESA if you use the included driver. at least hats my understanding. i dont have a AMD card
[01:58] <bluehoney> "server glx vendor string: SGI
[01:58] <bluehoney> client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
[01:58] <bluehoney> OpenGL vendor string: AMD"
[01:59] <ravage> Mesa Project looks like the open source driver
[01:59] <bluehoney> tomreyn: amdgpu-install was linked to by the deb file from the manufacturer
[02:00] <bluehoney> tomreyn: Trying to install amdgpu throws an error?
[02:00] <bluehoney> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:00] <bluehoney>  libwayland-amdgpu-client0 : Depends: libffi6 (>= 3.0.4) but it is not installable
[02:00] <bluehoney>  libwayland-amdgpu-server0 : Depends: libffi6 (>= 3.0.4) but it is not installable
[02:00] <bluehoney>  xserver-xorg-amdgpu-video-amdgpu : Depends: xorg-video-abi-24 but it is not installable
[02:00] <bluehoney> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:00] <ravage> there is no jammy driver by AMD for 22.04
[02:00] <ravage> also
[02:00] <ravage> !pastebin
[02:01] <ravage> that was a little redundant :P
[02:01] <ravage> so whatever you do. remove that driver
[02:01] <bluehoney> Sorry
[02:02] <tomreyn> apt list --installed     should only return    libdrm-amdgpu1 xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[02:03] <tomreyn> apt list --installed *amdgpu*     should only return    libdrm-amdgpu1 xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[02:03] <tomreyn> ^ this rather
[02:04] <ravage> the included driver uses the AMD firmware from the linux-firmware package. and that includes support for your card
[02:04] <ravage> so there is no need for any other driver
[02:06] <bluehoney> tomreyn: On removing amdgpu-install my return matches
[02:07] <bluehoney> Okay, so if the monitor can't recover after being set to sleep, that's a KDE issue? It worked fine prior to the GPU upgrade
[02:09] <tomreyn> possibly so. you could try switching between wayland and xorg to see whether this helps. or reproduce it and reboot and see what was written to the systemd jounral:   journalctl -b -1 -e
[02:10] <bluehoney> I will try those things
[02:10] <tomreyn> before rebooting, try switching to a tty, or sysrq+s,u,b
[02:11] <tomreyn> before rebooting, try switching to a tty and pressing ctrl-alt-del, or sysrq+s,u,b
[02:11] <ravage> maybe also crawl lauchpad for stuff like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1770836
[02:11] <bluehoney> I usually have to power off the tower, but I'll see if a tty does anything
[02:11] <ravage> that was just one i found randomly
[02:11] <ravage> it may not be your bug. but it could be :)
[02:11] <bluehoney> Okay, thanks. I'll see if the journal yields anything and then read the launchpad
[02:12] <ravage> it is from 2018. so i would hope they fixed that
[02:12] <tomreyn> if this is a fresh install, giving it a try with gnome just so you'll know it can work, may be reassuring, too.
[02:21] <bluehoney_> Not really familiar with how to use the journal, it looks like journalctl -b -l -e runs back to after I reboot
[02:21] <tomreyn> bluehoney_: oh, we forgot to mention also that you should ensure your system is fully updated: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[02:22] <bluehoney_> It's updated
[02:22] <tomreyn> this -L you have there should be a ONE
[02:22] <tomreyn> try setting your irc client to use a monotype font
[02:24] <tomreyn> journalctl -b -1 -e    would bring up the previous boots' logs, scrolling to the end of the output (which is probably where things failed)
[02:26] <bluehoney_> tomreyn: I think I see what is relevant https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9Vjzqbt6rg/
[02:27] <ravage> https://lore.kernel.org/all/ebb7331b-f343-b6b9-7e1f-8193189713b7@leemhuis.info/T/
[02:27] <ravage> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/1887
[02:28] <ravage> seems to be a well known problem
[02:30] <ravage> there is a comment that says the kernel parameter "drm.vblankoffdelay=0" helps
[02:31] <tomreyn> !kernelparm
[02:31] <bluehoney> I will try that
[02:32] <tomreyn> good find, ravage
[02:32] <tomreyn> let's hope the AER errors are not covering up a different root cause though
[02:51] <bluehoney> Setting the kernel parameter mentioned allowed what looked like it would be a recovery--the monitor initialized display again for a moment after sleep. However, after that moment it would become inactive again and wouldn't recover. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PS8yBqBxwX/
[02:53] <tomreyn> bluehoney: it's still there, in line 261. what does    cat /proc/cmdline    say, was the parameter set?
[02:54] <tomreyn> is your bios up to date?
[02:55] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep DMI:
[02:55] <bluehoney> kernel: DMI: Hewlett-Packard HP Z440 Workstation/212B, BIOS M60 v02.59 03/31/2022
[02:55] <tomreyn> probably new enough
[02:56] <bluehoney> I tried both drm.blankoffdelay=0 and "drm.vblankoffdelay=0" on two separate boots after linux...splash, I've rebooted after the monitor didn't work either time, so the parameter isn't currently set
[02:56] <tomreyn> if you want a quick solution, you could try 20.04 LTS and wait until upgrades to 22.04 are supported
[02:56] <bluehoney> vblank* on both
[02:57] <tomreyn> you could also try the newer graphics stack provided by oibaf, if any
[02:57] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[02:59] <tomreyn> bt if this is a kernel bug or amdgpu bug those wont help
[03:00] <bluehoney> I'll try that, might even downgrade as sad as that would be or try xscreensaver. Thanks to you and ravage, very helpful and I understand the problem better :)
[03:01] <tomreyn> downgrading 22.04 to 20.04 won't work / would be a mess
[03:02] <tomreyn> but you could try gnome + wayland while you have 22.04. or the oibaf drm + mesa i just pointed to with kde/plasma
[03:03] <tomreyn> and if those don't work you could install 20.04 instead. but actually you may also need a newer kernel there, so this may not actually help :-/
[03:03] <tomreyn> bluehoney: oh there's also the kernel mainline ppa you can try newer kernels from
[03:04] <tomreyn> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[03:05] <bluehoney> I'm trying the oibaf PPA now, then the kernel mainline if there's still problems
[03:05] <tomreyn> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.18.10/ for example - the 4 packages listed on the top
[03:06] <bluehoney> Drivers take effect right after the package is installed?
[03:07] <tomreyn> no, you may need to reboot, or at least reinitialize the graphics server
[03:08] <tomreyn> effectively you could probably bring down X and rmmod (unload kernel module = driver) and modprobe (load kernel module), but you'd be doing this without seeing anything ;)
[03:10] <tomreyn> make sure you have 'secure boot' off in bios if you'll try the mainline kernels
[03:11] <bluehoney_> tomreyn: Wow, the oibaf PPA updates fixed the issue. How'd you know that could be a solution?
[03:12] <tomreyn> bluehoney_: i didn't, i just speculated. :) libdrm and mesa, which it provides in newer versions, are relevant parts of the open source graphics driver stack
[03:13] <bluehoney_> tomreyn: That's great. Thanks again for the extensive help, my monitor sleeps fine now and I learned a bunch
[03:13] <tomreyn> very well :)
[03:14] <tomreyn> you could still report a bug if you wanted (but would need to restore the old confiig for this).
[03:15] <bluehoney_> Yeah, I suppose maybe I should. Though I don't know how to go about such a thing, really
[03:15] <bluehoney_> I mean I know how to remove the PPA and downgrade the packages, I just don't know about the reporting process
[03:17] <tomreyn> you'd run    ubuntu-bug mesa
[03:17] <tomreyn> (assuming that's where the error is)
[03:18] <tomreyn> it's a guided process. it does require an ubuntu website account (you can create one if needed)
[03:18] <bluehoney_> OK, I'll go ahead and do that
[03:19] <tomreyn> that's kind of you
[03:20] <bluehoney_> Paying it forward is part of how it all works :)
[03:25] <tomreyn> bluehoney_: :) if you like, private message me the bug id before you leave, and i can see if there's anything possibly relevant that i'd add based on what i learnt about this issue today.
[08:24] <adriana> hi
[08:24] <adriana> does someone knows why if i connect my smartphone via usb with my ubuntu, nothing appens?
[08:30] <tannera> What  do you want your smartphone to do when plugged in adriana?
[08:32] <adriana> i would like the phone ask me if i want just recharge the phone, or use it for transfer files from phone to pc
[08:32] <adriana> but the phone doesn't ask me nothing, so i don't see the phone from pc
[08:35] <tannera> Which phone? You should be able to set if you wa nt mtp on an android device in settings
[08:37] <adriana> Redmi 9C with Android 10 and MIUI 12. Also when i plug an external usb hard disk toshiba, nothing appens
[08:37] <arraybolt3[m]> adriana: Can you try plugging it into a different USB port?
[08:39] <adriana> i have three usb port. When i plug the hard disk, i heard an audio beep, but nothing appens on the monitor
[09:15] <arashatt> hey guys
[09:15] <arashatt> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=104113
[09:15] <arashatt> I have the same problem as stated in this link
[09:16] <arashatt> I left my laptop for a while after the blank screen my ubuntu guest on vb says "ubuntu can't recover"
[09:17] <tannera> .0
[09:17] <tannera> sorry misclick no help from me here :(
[09:18] <arashatt> but the link I sent you says the solution is to enable 3d acceleration which doesn't work for me. how should I fix the proble. can you help me?
[09:18] <arraybolt3[m]> arashatt: It might take a bit for someone who knows what to do to show up. Just be patient and someone will most likely come around.
[09:19] <arraybolt3[m]> arashatt: Did you try booting into recovery mode and commenting out a shared drive? Or have you never used shared drives at all?
[09:21] <arashatt> I haven't heard anything about it. I will get sure and tell you about it.
[09:22] <tannera> Arashatt, please share some more info on your build and someone should be able to assist. I use an AMD gpu which worked with a basic regular kubuntu install
[09:28] <arashatt> \tannera : ok I use ubuntu 22.04 on virtualbox. gpu: nvidia gforce mx230
[09:29] <arashatt> could the problem be with the shared drive?
[10:07] <arashatt> arraybolt3[m], yeah I use shared drives. but can the be the cause of the problem?
[10:07] <arashatt> they*
[10:08] <arraybolt3[m]> arashatt: One of the users in the VirtualBox thread you mentioned said that they went into /etc/fstab and commented out the lines that referenced their shared drives, and that fixed it.
[10:10] <arashatt> oh excuse my ignorance
[10:10] <arraybolt3[m]> No problem. Glad to be able to help, hope it works!
[10:12] <faLUKE> hello. After booting, my mouse is always too fast. I have to manually set it with xinput --set-prop 10 'libinput Accel Speed' -0.5.  How can I fix this on ubuntu 21.10 in order to have a normal speed without this manual set?
[10:12] <arraybolt3[m]> faLUKE: Isn't there a mouse speed option somewhere in the settings?
[10:13] <arraybolt3[m]> faLUKE: (As an aside, Ubuntu 21.10 goes EOL in a few days, at which point it will cease to receive security updates, so it's highly recommended up upgrade to a supported version of Ubuntu (either 20.04 or 22.04) as soon as possible.)
[10:14] <faLUKE> arraybolt3[m]: it doesn't work
[10:14] <arraybolt3[m]> (July 14, 2022 is the EOL date for Ubuntu 21.10.)
[10:14] <faLUKE> arraybolt3[m]: thanks for the info
[10:14] <arraybolt3[m]> faLUKE: Hmm, that's crummy. What kind of mouse are you using, a mouse or a touchpad?
[10:14] <faLUKE> mouse
[10:14] <arraybolt3[m]> This might sound silly, but is there a button on your mouse that adjusts the speed? There is on mine.
[10:15] <faLUKE> arraybolt3[m]: there is not
[10:16] <faLUKE> there's a little button. but it seem it doesn't do anything
[10:35] <kristian_on_linu> hi, I hope it's okay to ask a (kind of) KDE question here ... I am running Lokalize after a long break, and I forgot how to approve segments, which means they are all bold now. Help?
[10:36] <arraybolt3[m]> kristian_on_linu: If you're using Kubuntu, this is absolutely on-topic here. If not, you might try #kde:libera.chat .
[10:37] <kristian_on_linu> I'm not, it's just a KDE app that I run on "normal" Ubuntu
[10:37] <arraybolt3[m]> Still on topic.
[10:37] <arraybolt3[m]> (I assumed Kubuntu with KDE, but KDE apps on Ubuntu are just fine, too.)
[10:39] <arraybolt3[m]> kristian_on_linu: Is there an "Approved" button in your toolbar?
[10:40] <kristian_on_linu> the toolbar seems to be saying the right thing
[10:41] <kristian_on_linu> this is translation software, usually there is an "approve and go to next segment" option, this is what I can't find
[10:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm, that makes sense. (Sorry, never used Lokalize before, so I'm looking for docs on what you're trying to do.)
[10:44] <arraybolt3[m]> kristian_on_linu: Well, crud. The docs aren't helping me very much. You're welcome to wait for someone who knows the answer to what you're trying to do, but you may get a faster answer if you go to #kde. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[10:51] <kristian_on_linu> no worries, arraybolt3[m] ... I actually asked on KDE already, but it seems a bit less populated than this channel
[11:35] <jrippon> Hi channel, I am trying to work out some odd behaviour in updating one of my lab boxes from `focal` to `jammy` - I am told by `do-release-upgrade` that no update is available but everything looks to be telling me it should be.  Anyone got some ideas how I might figure this out from here?  Some (hopefully) relevant output here: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/MM8v5v8Zx6/
[11:37] <EriC^^> jrippon: you need to use "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"   if you want to upgrade right now, otherwise you have to wait for the 22.04.1 point release to come out
[11:46] <jrippon> EriC^^, thanks I'll give that a go - this is not a production system so I'm happy enough to use -d (apologies - I really should have found that in the docs, my bad!)
[12:48] <mickey> maybe im missing something, but where do you actually get your packages from? apt seems to have pretty much everything extremely outdated, snap and flatpak seems weird and not well integrated in the system...
[12:48] <mickey> like whered you get nodejs from?
[12:54] <bolnav[m]> Hello, where to report that it.archive.ubuntu.com is unreachable since yesterday evening?
[12:55] <ioria> mickey, do you want lts 16.16  ? if yes, use snap
[12:56] <nicoz> bolnav[m] change with another, the Italian one seems to be offline
[12:56] <nicoz> try with this en.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:57] <mickey> ioria nah, i want 17
[12:58] <ioria> there's no 17
[12:58] <mickey> ioria https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v17.9.1/
[13:00] <ioria> mickey, i mean, no 17 on ubuntu
[13:01] <ioria> mickey, or 16 with snap or 12 with 22.04
[13:02] <elfgirl> hey guys. I hae a couple of older computers that I need to basically do everything as automatically as possible for school
[13:02] <tomreyn> mickey: https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions
[13:03] <elfgirl> well, one is a first gen i3 laptop, the other is bramd new ASUS celeron with flash memory
[13:03] <elfgirl> argualy the older one is better. well, probably not arguably
[13:04] <elfgirl> can i uninstall gnome and retain a lot of ubuntu's setup like "settingd"and the wofo manager and use dwm
[13:05] <elfgirl> i think i need the tiling WM for two reasons; 1. all my classes look the same and it's hard to know what firefox window holds each and 2. the litle ASUS can barely handle gnome's 6 forked processes at ~1.6MB and 2 percent CPU usage each
[13:05] <elfgirl> i don't want to butcher my installations of ubuntu. i am happy with them
[13:06] <tomreyn> hi elfgirl, by "settingd", do you mean "gnome-settings-daemon"? if so, this would be gone if you removed all of gnome.
[13:06] <elfgirl> what will happen is I ; apt-get uninstall gnome-whatever && apt-get install dwm && echo "exec dwm" >> .Xauthority; sort of idea?
[13:07] <elfgirl> tomreyn: yeah sorry. "settings"
[13:07] <elfgirl> it has a lot of functionalities for dual monitors, recognizing sound devices
[13:07] <elfgirl> but also will nautilus and its gvfs automounting stay intact?
[13:08] <tomreyn> nautilus and gvfs are part of gnome
[13:08] <elfgirl> hmm
[13:09] <tomreyn> you could just keep gnome installed but not run a gnome-shell desktop session.
[13:09] <elfgirl> tomreyn: what will it look like if I just change desktops? will I still have the 6 baseline processes? or will this be reduced
[13:10] <tomreyn> but i'm not sure that that would still let you use these tools.
[13:10] <elfgirl> tomreyn: yeah i don't know either
[13:10] <tomreyn> i'm not sure which processes you're referring to exactly.
[13:11] <tomreyn> how much ram do these computers have? do they have 64-bit x86 CPUs?
[13:12] <elfgirl> they both have 4GB RAM, 64 bit
[13:12] <elfgirl> but the RAM is not replaceable in the ASUS
[13:13] <elfgirl> so it will eventually get bad blocks or whatever they are called when in RAM
[13:13] <tomreyn> i bet that you can do anything you can do in the gnome GUIs also using CLI applications or using the proc file system etc.
[13:14] <cbreak> there's kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu
[13:14] <tomreyn> if you're familiar with dwm and willnig to spend some time to summarize some CLI tooling which does what you would normally do with gnome-settings then this is probably a good approach.
[13:14] <cbreak> maybe one of the others is more appropriate for your hardware
[13:15] <cbreak> you can also install an other WM with normal ubuntu to try it out
[13:15] <elfgirl> cbreak: probably yeah
[13:15] <cbreak> for example i3
[13:15] <cbreak> just log out, and then on the login screen, select i3
[13:15] <tomreyn> other than that, yes, you could try another flavour, or another graphical desktop.
[13:15] <cbreak> i3 is a tiling WM
[13:15] <cbreak> i3 is not a full desktop though, so it lacks a ton of ... UI
[13:16] <cbreak> I like kde, but ... it uses a lot of ram
[13:16] <tomreyn> web browsers will be your worst enemy in terms of memory hogging.
[13:17] <cbreak> there's lynx, links and the like.
[13:17] <cbreak> they are not pleasant to use
[13:17] <elfgirl> cbreak: yeah. i mean i basically need the UI I think. thre's too much possibility of a web functionality being disabled
[13:18] <elfgirl> the networking for a univesity is very corporate sorta and what goes on in say firefox/chrome is not standard usage
[13:18] <tomreyn> bolnav[m]: in #ubuntu-mirrors
[13:19] <tomreyn> (or where it says in its /topic)
[13:19] <elfgirl> lots of automatic networking/double authentication/zoom-compat
[13:19] <elfgirl> anyway thanks for your help you guys. i will try just running dwm on the ASUS and see if gnome is still available but more backgrounded
[13:19] <elfgirl> hopefully nothing important gets disabled
[13:23] <elfgirl> i'll back in a couple weeks, studying business and IRC is too much left brain right brain disconnect. but please try to remember my problem set it's really important
[13:24] <elfgirl> and i guessif e can make it work i could donate 100 bucks a year or something
[13:24] <elfgirl> i'm saving a fair bit of money on computers doing this. as long as everything works. thanks and bye for now
[13:46] <ravage> i know he already left but: https://p.haxxors.com/qpnt7vky.txt
[14:32] <fabrizio> hello
[14:32] <fabrizio> i have an nvidia gforce video card
[14:32] <fabrizio> and troubles with ¨tearfree¨
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> fabrizio: can you share your ubuntu release and graphics driver version with the volunteers?
[14:34] <fabrizio> lubuntu 18.04
[14:34] <fabrizio> seems to use xorg
[14:36] <fabrizio> GF108 [GeForce GT 530]
[14:37] <fabrizio> yes it´s using the xorg driver
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> fabrizio: could you pastebin; sudo lshw -C video && nvidia-smi please?
[14:38] <fabrizio> ok..
[14:39] <fabrizio> to solve the amd graphic card was easy
[14:39] <fabrizio> on my old laptop
[14:41] <fabrizio> can i just copy/paste here ?
[14:42] <tomreyn> fabrizio: please use   | nc termbin.com 9999     or https://paste.debian.org
[14:42] <fabrizio> https://pastebin.com/s2LSv2qJ
[14:43] <fabrizio> should i change to nvidia driver instead of xorg ?
[14:43] <tomreyn> you're using the open source "nouveau" driver, i assume that's what you meant by "the xorg driver"
[14:44] <fabrizio> umm
[14:46] <tomreyn> if you were to use the proprietary nvidia driver, you would have to use the legacy, no longer maintained, possibly insecure, 390 series driver.
[14:46] <tomreyn> 470 series does not support your graphics card
[14:47] <tomreyn> i think 390 is available from the graphics-drivers PPA
[14:47] <tomreyn> !nvidia
[14:48] <fabrizio> ok tnx i will tinker with the 390
[14:48] <tomreyn> yes, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=bionic has this driver. but using nouveau may actually be better.
[14:49] <tomreyn> you did not specify what the "troubles with tearfree" are.
[14:49] <fabrizio> tearfree doesn´t seem to work
[14:49] <fabrizio> the movies lagg
[14:49] <fabrizio> ¨stripes¨
[14:50] <tomreyn> so it only happens with movies?
[14:50] <fabrizio> yep
[14:50] <tomreyn> that may as well be a video decoding issue
[14:50] <fabrizio> hmm
[14:51] <tomreyn> maybe you don't have the required decoder packages installed. or you're using VAAPI, which you probably should not.
[14:52] <ravage> is this a laptop with an integrated intel card and nvidia?
[14:52] <tomreyn> try running the video player from a terminal and see what it prints when you start video playback
[14:52] <fabrizio> well youtube has it too
[14:52] <fabrizio> dekstop from hp
[14:52] <fabrizio> intel processor
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> ravage: dont think so, otherwise his lshw would show intel too
[14:53] <fabrizio> i swore i would never use intel
[14:53] <fabrizio> prefer amd
[14:53] <fabrizio> but i got this free from work
[14:53] <ravage> the CPU is not your problem here :)
[14:53] <fabrizio> ok !
[14:53] <fabrizio> :)
[14:53] <tomreyn> can you run this and post the output:    lspci -knnv | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:54] <tomreyn> actually this:    lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:55] <fabrizio> https://termbin.com/m116
[14:55] <fabrizio> well i maybe need to reboot
[14:55] <fabrizio> just changed xorg
[14:56] <PhonixGeist> Hello
[14:56] <tomreyn> fabrizio: what do you mean by "just changed xorg"?
[14:56] <tomreyn> hi PhonixGeist
[14:56] <fabrizio> well i swicthed driver from xorg to nvidia 390
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> welcome PhonixGeist
[14:56] <fabrizio> switched*
[14:56] <ravage> this is still the "xorg" driver
[14:56] <ravage> at least from your paste
[14:57] <fabrizio> i better reboot, brb
[14:57] <PhonixGeist> hey guys.. is there a way to some way lock ubuntu with out suspend or logout? for example when you have a task running or something downloading and you need to leave the pc alone but dont want to stop what is running... is it possible?
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> a screensaver with a password PhonixGeist could be an idea
[14:58] <tomreyn> PhonixGeist: which ubuntu version are you using, which graphical desktop?
[14:58] <ioria> if a task is running, it should not suspend
[14:59] <PhonixGeist> sounds good... lotuspsychje (i'm going to tested but...) do you think if i have my login with 2FA usb-key the screensaver will ask for the key?
[14:59] <PhonixGeist> tomreyn, Ubuntu 22.04 Gnome...
[15:00] <tomreyn> the default gnome-shell desktop allows for locking the screen by selecting the lock icon from the top right icon menu, or by pressing meta-l (lower case L)
[15:00] <fabrizio> well the drive change seemed to have done it !
[15:00] <fabrizio> tnx
[15:01] <fabrizio> :R
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> !yay | fabrizio
[15:01] <fabrizio> :)
[15:01] <fabrizio> hail hail ubuntu
[15:01] <tomreyn> PhonixGeist: to prevent a laptop from going into suspend automatically, connect the wall plug (if a laptop) and disable suspend when on power supply in settings.
[15:03] <PhonixGeist> tomreyn, yea i get it... but i want it to lock the system without stopping any process runing.. I think the meta-l and/or the screensaver could work...
[15:03] <PhonixGeist> thanks!
[15:04] <tomreyn> i don't see why a screen lock would stop a process from running
[15:05] <tomreyn> unless that directly depends on steady user input
[15:05] <tomreyn> but then it would have to do this by its own choice
[15:05] <PhonixGeist> tomreyn, yea... i just didn't though on screen lock...
[15:06] <tomreyn> if it's still an issue: maybe if you tell us more about this process, we can help more.
[15:07] <PhonixGeist> tomreyn, no it's ok. is not that complicated... i think screen lock will work... i'll tested out...
[15:07] <PhonixGeist> tomreyn, thanks!
[15:07] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[15:50] <jwash> Hey guys i am online for 10 secs then offline for 30, in a repeating cycle, can someome assist? 22.0s server
[15:57] <EriC^^> jwash: anything in /var/log/syslog?
[16:00] <jwash> 1 sec
[16:03] <jwash> ntp is failing....
[16:04] <tomreyn> ntpd failing should not bring down the internet connection, unless it keeps changing the system time. ubuntu uses systemd-timesyncd by default. if you want to use ntpd instead, you may need to disable that.
[16:04] <jwash> How do i reset to dhcp
[16:04] <jwash> i have a feeling it relates to the wird subnet requirement at installation
[16:05] <tomreyn> your question is unclear / needs more context.
[16:05] <jwash> i am on mobile, patience
[16:05] <jwash> i can not stay connected to the internet on ubuntu 22.02
[16:06] <jwash> keeps going u[)p and down
[16:06] <tomreyn> try bringing this system online by other means temporarily, so that servicing it becomes easier. attach a mobile phone with a wire and make the phone share its internet access, or connect a usb wired or wireless network interface.
[16:06] <tomreyn> you probably mean Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[16:06] <jwash> done with isb ethernet adapter, no change
[16:07] <jwash> yes 22.02 lts server command line install omly
[16:07] <jwash> usb ethernet adapter
[16:08] <tomreyn> you'll need to configure this network interface, and make it the default route.
[16:09] <jwash> cross fingers
[16:09] <jwash> looks online
[16:09] <jwash> is there a tool like nmtui for 22.02?
[16:09] <tomreyn> what is "22.02"?
[16:11] <jwash> Nope, back down
[16:11] <jwash> fail in name resolution on ping
[16:11] <tomreyn> nmtui is part of jammy's network-manager https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/amd64/network-manager/filelist
[16:11] <jwash> then 2 packets make it, and a fail again
[16:11] <tomreyn> but if this is a server installation you're probably not using network-manager, unless you chose to
[16:12] <tomreyn> does    ping 1.1.1.1    work constantly, though?
[16:12] <tomreyn> you want to tell apart network connectivity and name resolution issues
[16:13] <jwash> i'm using systemd-network
[16:13] <jwash> currently
[16:13] <jwash> name resolution is always failing out
[16:14] <jwash> no
[16:14] <jwash> 1.1.1.1 pauses in connectability
[16:14] <jwash> in the same up down pattern
[16:14] <jwash> same pinging my router
[16:14] <tomreyn> how is the server connected to your router?
[16:15] <jwash> 1 hop via switch
[16:15] <jwash> ive put a vrand new switch
[16:15] <jwash> other computer on the switch has no interru[tions
[16:16] <tomreyn> try a different switch port
[16:16] <jwash> my kids been watching videos uninterrupted for the past hour
[16:16] <jwash> ok
[16:17] <jwash> Paused again
[16:17] <tomreyn> disconnect and reconnect / reseat ethernet cable connector on both the servers' network card and the switch.
[16:17] <jwash> network activity light is blinking, and its pinging and paused again
[16:17] <tomreyn> make sure it clicks when inserting it
[16:18] <jwash> dude
[16:18] <jwash> positive clicks man
[16:18] <jwash> done
[16:18] <tomreyn> any improvement when pining the router by its ip address, yet?
[16:19] <jwash> no
[16:19] <jwash> same sadness
[16:19] <jwash> up and down
[16:19] <tomreyn> by "up and down" you mean what exactly?
[16:19] <jwash> active for 2-5 secs, down for 30-60 secs
[16:19] <tomreyn> so there are ping timeouts?
[16:20] <jwash> yea
[16:20] <jwash> even to my router
[16:21] <tomreyn> so did this start by the time you introduced the network switch, or at a different time?
[16:22] <tomreyn> check networkctl, nmcli, ip link/route/address outputs
[16:22] <jwash> at fresh install of brand new system
[16:22] <tomreyn> you can run    journalctl -f   and see what gets added to the system log
[16:23] <tomreyn> ip -s link    lists dropped packages, collisions etc.
[16:23] <jwash> i asked for nextcloud to be installed, but have not yet completed installation, journalctl and /var/syslog are stacked with notices
[16:23] <jwash> what is the command to upload to a text share from the command line
[16:24] <jwash> i can get the outputs online in bursts
[16:25] <tomreyn> you can post output from a command to termbin.com by appending this to the command:   |& nc termbin.com 9999
[16:25] <jwash> awesome
[16:25] <tomreyn> if name resolution is an issue, use this instead:   |& nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[16:26] <tomreyn> the command you run won't be included in the output, so you'd still need to explain what you ran
[16:26] <jwash> https://termbin.com/xwuf
[16:26] <jwash> sudo ip -s link
[16:27] <jwash> sudo cat /var/log/syslog: https://termbin.com/cwdk
[16:28] <tomreyn> termbin only stores the first 1k lines
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:29] <jwash> see how all those packets have been dropped
[16:29] <jwash> in ip -s link
[16:31] <jwash> i'm removing nextcloud with snap remove nextcloud
[16:32] <tomreyn> that's not very likely to be related to network connectivity issues.
[16:32] <tomreyn> you may want to also try replacing the network cable, if you have a spare one
[16:33] <tomreyn> your "sudo ip -s link" output at https://termbin.com/xwuf shows dropped packet but not ip address collisions.
[16:34] <jwash> Already replaced cable with a known good cable
[16:36] <tomreyn> looks like "nextcloud-fixer" was spamming your system logs about nextcloud not being properly/fully installed, so it's good you purged it.
[16:36] <jwash> Yes
[16:37] <jwash> let me goto rr and the computer settle for a bit
[16:37] <jwash> brb
[16:38] <tomreyn> if you can post your netplan configuration and networkctl outputs next, that could be useful
[16:40] <jwash> yes
[16:41] <jwash> https://imgur.com/1yJ5Gk9.png this is the behavior, see the skip at 105 to 129
[16:42] <tomreyn> your server seems to have ip address 192.168.0.202 allocated, your router having 192.168.0.1
[16:42] <jwash> networkctl - https://termbin.com/esd8
[16:45] <jwash> cat /etc/netplan/00-installer-config.yaml - https://termbin.com/nyyb
[16:45] <jwash> no nameservers in the yaml
[16:45] <tomreyn> whats the output from   networkctl status
[16:45] <jwash> nm
[16:46] <jwash> networkctl status - https://termbin.com/d04tw
[16:49] <tomreyn> i haven't seen anything wrong, yet
[16:49] <jwash> i'm unsure also
[16:49] <jwash> look at that screenshot
[16:49] <jwash> i have no idea what it could  be
[16:49] <jwash> i set the 2nd monitor on my son's computer to ping yahoo
[16:49] <jwash> it hasn't skipped a beat
[16:49] <jwash> it's on the same switch
[16:49] <tomreyn> you did change the switch port, right?
[16:50] <jwash> yes
[16:50] <clime> hey, does anyone have a reasonable solution for collection for coredumps in containers under Ubuntu?
[16:50] <jwash> and new cable
[16:50] <clime> i am interested in both Ubuntu container running on Ubuntu and e.g. centos7 container running on Ubuntu (this probably is harder to solve)
[16:50] <jwash> how do i put back on dhcp with a command line utility like nmtui
[16:50] <tomreyn> jwash: and it worked fine before you introduced the new switch?
[16:50] <jwash> no
[16:51] <jwash> fresh install that never has been working correctly
[16:51] <tomreyn> have you tried another OS or kernel version?
[16:51] <ravage> or just a reinstall of that system with 22.04
[16:52] <jwash> should i just trash it and try again?
[16:52] <ravage> it may be worth a try
[16:52] <jwash> tomreyn: that's a good idea, i'll try another kernel, then i'll go with ravage's suggestion
[16:52] <ravage> the installation really only takes a few minutes
[16:52] <tomreyn> https://termbin.com/rq2r is a default dynamic addressing netplan configuration
[16:52] <jwash> really
[16:53] <clime> the problem is that apport collects coredumps by /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern which is not kernel-namespaced
[16:53] <jwash> i set it up static at time of installation specifically
[16:53] <jwash> but i had problems with the new subnet notation
[16:53] <jwash> it wouldn't take 255.255.255.0 any more
[16:53] <ravage> jwash, if your network has DHCP go with that fist
[16:53] <ravage> first
[16:53] <jwash> how do i re-enable dhcp
[16:54] <jwash> it is available on my network
[16:54] <d3vr> Hello, I've added a new disk to my server. Now the server is not properly booting up. I'm getting a "Timed out waiting for device /dev/disk/by-uuid/..." error. Checking blkid and /etc/fstab, I can see that the UUIDs match, not sure how to go about debugging this further. Any help appreciated
[16:54] <tomreyn> jwash: you change the netplan configuration to look similat to mine
[16:54] <ravage> jwash, use tomreyn's config and use the right device instead of enp0s3
[16:54] <ravage> should be eno1
[16:54] <tomreyn> i noticed your device is aliased, i was wondering whether that would be an issue
[16:55] <tomreyn> did you add some configuration to rename network interfaces?
[16:55] <ravage> jwash, i usually use DHCP in my home network and tell my router to always give the device the same IP
[16:55] <jwash> good idea
[16:55] <jwash> that's how i'll have to handle it
[16:58] <jwash> i copied over your yaml, restarted network, same ip
[16:59] <ravage> same ip is possible
[16:59] <ravage> but does it still disconnect?
[17:00] <tomreyn> i don't think it ever disconnected, it just dropped packets
[17:00] <d3vr> Here is the blkid output, /etc/fstab contents and the journalctl: https://gist.github.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1
[17:00] <ravage> tomreyn, but he really changed everything. even the network interface right?
[17:01] <tomreyn> ravage: i'm not sure i understand the question. why would he change "everything"?
[17:01] <ravage> everything that could be changed
[17:01] <tomreyn> ravage: the network interface name was aliased, from what i saw on some output
[17:01] <tomreyn> i forgot which
[17:02] <ravage> maybe we will get an answer on the current status soon :)
[17:02] <oerheks> d3vr, step 1; check for a bios update, yours is 2019, current 2021 https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-GAMING-PLUS/support
[17:03] <tomreyn> ravage: i hope so. :)
[17:04] <d3vr> oerheks this is on a dedicated Ubuntu server,  I don't have access to updating BIOS
[17:04] <d3vr> server from a cloud provider
[17:05] <d3vr> and the server was working fine before adding a new drive
[17:06] <ravage> and how did you get it to boot to provide the information? a rescue system?
[17:08] <d3vr> ravage yes a rescue system
[17:08] <tomreyn> the UUIDs for / match in fstab and blkid. since you also specified the partuuid in fstab, either try if you can mount with this fstab after removing the partuuid, or try comparing the partuuid in fstab with that on disk
[17:09] <jhutchins> d3vr: Other than the error message, what are the symptoms of the problem?  Does the new device mount?  Can you mount it manually?  Can you mount it manually both by UUID and by device name?
[17:10] <d3vr> In fact, I'm not even trying to mount the new disk yet. If I mount the root and boot partitions via the rescue system, it works fine. However if I try to boot the existing OS, it hangs and I can't access SSH. I'm not certain, but from the logs it seems like it's failing to mount the boot partition ?
[17:10] <jhutchins> d3vr: You have seven devices available but only three in fstab - is that intentional?
[17:11] <d3vr> Yes it's intentional, I'm trying to locate where the issue is. So I only left the root, boot and swap partitions in fstab
[17:11] <ravage> d3vr, which UUID it waits for exactly is missing in your "Timed out waiting for device /dev/disk/by-uuid/..." information
[17:12] <ravage> it usually is the root partition. but it may be any other in your fstab
[17:12] <d3vr> ravage the first one that times out in the logs is the /boot partition (/dev/sda2 in blkid)
[17:13] <tomreyn> oh, so not /
[17:14] <ravage> you dont actually need to mount that to boot i think. it gets everything via your bootloader
[17:14] <ravage> so you could try to comment that out
[17:14] <ravage> but there are other timeouts?
[17:15] <jhutchins> ravage: You should test your theory that /boot doesn't need to be mounted.
[17:16] <dreamon> hello. I installed xubuntu on a ssd. now I have two identical HDDs I want to setup as raid 1 only for data usage. how can I setup this?
[17:16] <d3vr> Both the /boot and swap partitions are timing out
[17:16] <d3vr> would it be helpful if I also share the grub.cfg file ?
[17:16] <EriC^^> d3vr: can you paste blkid's output and fstab?
[17:16] <jhutchins> d3vr: I know you have too many questions and suggestions right now, but at some point you might test changing the fstab entries to devices instead of UUIDs.
[17:16] <ravage> EriC^^, https://gist.github.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1
[17:17] <EriC^^> ty ravage
[17:17] <d3vr> EriC^^ Yes, I've shared them her ëë
[17:17] <d3vr> here: https://gist.github.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1
[17:17] <d3vr> jhutchins I read in the arch wiki that using UUIDs is the most guaranteed method to always point to the same partitions ? And that device names can change ?
[17:18] <ravage> ext3 is a strange filesystem for /boot btw
[17:18] <d3vr> it also doesn't make sense to me why it's not finding the partitions since the UUIDs match? am I missing something ?
[17:18] <jhutchins> d3vr: All true.  It's broken now.  Try something different.
[17:18] <d3vr> ravage I just used hetzner's Ubuntu image for the install
[17:19] <ravage> d3vr, i work for the competition so i will try to be impartial here
[17:19] <ravage> but thats not the problem here anyway. just an observation
[17:20] <d3vr> I've uploaded grub.cfg in case that sheds some more light on the issue: https://gist.github.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1
[17:20] <d3vr> Will try replacing the UUIDs with the device names in fstab and see if that helps
[17:20] <ravage> yep. give that a try
[17:21] <ravage> the boot process in grub seems to work just fine
[17:22] <test2> test
[17:22] <tomreyn> test2: please /join #tests
[17:23] <EriC^^> seems it's failing when systemd is mounting them
[17:24] <jwash> decided to just reinstall
[17:26] <tomreyn> jwash: they have scripts on their internal ftp servers for bios upgrades, IIRC
[17:27] <tomreyn> there is also #hetzner
[17:27] <jwash> tomreyn: for my intel board
[17:27] <jwash> ?
[17:27] <tomreyn> this said, i don't think this has to do anything with them
[17:27] <tomreyn> ah, sorry, i addressed the wrong person
[17:28] <ravage> tomreyn, i think you are mixing something up. jwash has no dedicated server
[17:28] <ravage> yep .)
[17:28] <ravage> :)
[17:28] <jwash> sweet
[17:28] <jwash> booted up on new install
[17:29] <jwash> i'll play around a bit and make sure it's staying online
[17:29] <jwash> thanks for the efforts guys
[17:29] <tomreyn> d3vr: i don't think this is realted to this issue, but if you want to bios upgrade, i think hetzner has scripts for that on their ftp servers which can be reached from your server.
[17:30] <tomreyn> d3vr: see also #hetzner
[17:30] <d3vr> tomreyn will look into that once I resolve this issue
[17:31] <tomreyn> thanks ravage
[17:32] <d3vr> so after switching to device names instead of UUIDs, I'm getting:
[17:32] <d3vr> Timed out waiting for device /dev/sda1
[17:32] <d3vr> and dev-sda1.device: Job dev-sda1.device/start timed out
[17:32] <jhutchins> This sounds a lot like a filesystem driver missing in the initrd.
[17:32] <ravage> that is really strange
[17:32] <jhutchins> "Why" always costs more than "fixed".
[17:32] <ravage> d3vr, do you have some older kernels in your boot menu you can try?
[17:33] <ravage> maybe the disk isnt the problem here but some messed up kernel update
[17:35] <EriC^^> d3vr: what happens when you try to mount /boot after the os has booted?
[17:35] <tomreyn> note that hetzner have a custom installer (i don't know how they create it)
[17:35] <EriC^^> if you try 'sudo mount /boot' for instance
[17:36] <d3vr> When I try to boot it through the rescue system, it works fine
[17:36] <d3vr> I ran a fsck on the partitions as well, no issues
[17:36] <tomreyn> do you also specify the file system type there?
[17:36] <EriC^^> d3vr: try a different kernel as ravage mentioned
[17:37] <d3vr> Looking into that now, will report back
[17:39] <d3vr> from looking at the boot logs from before adding the drive, I can see that the kernel versions are different, so that might be the issue. After the drive addition: 5.15.0-39, before: 5.15.0-27
[18:12] <d3vr> Changed the kernel version back to the one I know used to work
[18:12] <d3vr> Still getting that timed out error waiting for device
[18:12] <d3vr> I have no idea what else I can try now
[18:12] <d3vr> Anyone has any ideas? Please?
[18:16] <d3vr> I can see this error in the journal, I don't know if it's related:
[18:16] <d3vr> `kernel: mtd device must be supplied (device name is empty)`
[18:22] <deego> I'm on an ubuntu systemt where in /var/lib/apt/lists/ , _Packages is a symlink to Packages (and the latter dir. is missing, causing apt-show-versions to not install).  Is this symlink normal? Anyone every seen this before? I can, ofc, mkdir Packages, but figured i should ask before messing w things
[18:24] <deego> I just removed the symlink for now. Anyone ever seen that before?
[18:55] <deego> now, after install, during use, it complains that _apt-show-versions not found for command completion. again, google proved to be of no help
[18:56] <deego> never seen that command. does ubuntu automatically search for unerscore+command?
[19:04] <dob1> apt update will try to connect to the ip ipv6 repository, I don't have an ipv6 address, why?
[19:05] <dob1> s/will try/tries
[19:05] <mihail> Hey there. I have setup lockscreen after 5 minutes of inactivity, but when i play games with a Xinput controller, the lockscreen kicks in after 5 mins as mentioned, despite the is activity. Question: how to fix this? How to take account of that input device so the screen does not lock?
[19:05] <dob1> [Connecting to it.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:760:ffff:b6:4:100:0:73)   why is doing this?
[19:06] <ravage> dob1, i think the it mirror is down in general
[19:06] <dob1> ah ok
[19:06] <ravage> try "ping -4 it.archive.ubuntu.com"
[19:06] <ravage> should be the same result
[19:06] <ravage> statement from the hoster: https://p.haxxors.com/qpnt7vky.txt
[19:06] <dob1> ravage: it doesn't answer, ok I will try later, thanks
[19:06] <dob1> ok!
[19:07] <ravage> you can of course just change the it to something near you
[19:56] <chlhix> #Kali+
[20:36] <gebbione> what is the best GUI utility to see what is happening when inserting a cd dvd in the drive? currently ones that cannot be read show nothing at all. It would be nice to see errors instead of just silence
[20:39] <kostkon> gebbione, you could try with 'journalctl -f'
[20:42] <gebbione> not very GUI
[20:42] <gebbione> but yea i just see errors
[20:42] <gebbione> it would be nice if disks showed more info
[20:43] <gebbione> other than block device is empty
[20:44] <kostkon> gebbione, there's also dvdisaster. disclaimer, last time I used it was like 15 years ago
[20:45] <gebbione> yea my dvds have over 15 years, doing some clearing up
[20:46] <gebbione> unrecoverable
[20:46] <gebbione> :(
[20:47] <kostkon> gebbione, :/
[21:05] <jadenlian> when i created the private/public keys with gpg this new .gnupg dir was created  with my key info(my guess) so if i were to take an encrypted file that encrypted with this key to a different machine  do i just need to copy this .gnupg directory that was created in my home directory to use the keys to decrypt
[21:12] <transhumanist> anyon able to tell me what this error means update-rc.d error cannot find a LSB script for zram.service   https://bpa.st/M6GA
[21:14] <mihail> Help please! I have setup lockscreen after 5 minutes of inactivity, but when i play games with a Xinput controller, the lockscreen kicks in after 5 mins as mentioned, despite the is activity. Question: how to fix this? How to take account of that input device so the screen does not lock?
[21:16] <transhumanist> mihail how about disabling lock screen?
[21:16] <transhumanist> settings power options or settings -- power
[21:20] <d3vr> Still haven't figured out a solution, posted on AskUbuntu hoping to get some help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1418125/boot-fails-timed-out-waiting-for-device-dev-disk-by-uuid
[21:20] <d3vr> What could be the reason that it's not able to find the partitions ?
[21:21] <transhumanist> can you run a live disk d3vr and run gparted and go under info on the disk and see the UUID is proper?
[21:22] <transhumanist> this is set in /etc/fstab but if its wrong it will never find it
[21:23] <Bashing-om> d3vr: Fid you veriry the UUYDs in the fstab file - sudo blkid -c /dev/null -o list - to see a fresh list to compare.
[21:23] <Bashing-om> fid/did*
[21:23] <transhumanist> that works too
[21:23] <mihail> transhumanist, id rather not
[21:24] <transhumanist> well mihail you aught to disable it and see at least if it has the same problem
[21:25] <mihail> transhumanist, if i disable it it obviously will not lock, but thats what i need. it seems to only react to mouse/keyboard, but not the controller
[21:26] <transhumanist> ok good enough, good luck then, I never had that exact problem, sorry
[21:26] <d3vr> Bashing-om can confirm I'm finding the same UUIDs
[21:29] <d3vr> transhumanist how can I get that information through `parted` ?
[21:35] <transhumanist> sudo sgdisk -i 1 /dev/sda  or /sbin/tune2fs -l /dev/sda1  I use gparted never done it with regular parted print devices list doesnt show anything so I dont know , sorry
[21:36] <transhumanist> can you boot from a live cd and chroot to it, so like it actually works  or just mount it when running live disk and see the partitions?
[21:39] <transhumanist> sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda1
[21:39] <d3vr> transhumanist can confirm with tune2fs, same UUIDs
[21:40] <transhumanist> well I would try and chroot into the sucker or at least mount it and see if its all accessible also it seems that you already checked the logs, is there a more verbose log option you might be able to set ?
[21:40] <d3vr> Also that's what I'm doing, via the "rescue system" from Hetzner, which is based on Debian I think, I'm chrooting into the disk
[21:40] <transhumanist> ah ok
[21:41] <transhumanist> I might just for the hell of it dump the block id and copy it into the /etc/fstab to make sure that its not like a type I mean the UUID's are so freaking long its easy to miss
[21:42] <transhumanist> and you did a update-grub right ? it appears correctly in /etc/default/grub?
[21:44] <transhumanist> also your not using a custom kernel or anything where settings for ext2 ext3 ext4 riser xfs, or whatever are setup right?
[21:46] <transhumanist> if you are using a custom kernel I might suggest trying a default kernel
[21:46] <transhumanist> and see if it works at least
[21:46] <transhumanist> then you will know
[21:47] <d3vr> I'm using the default Hetzner ubuntu image, so not sure if they're using a custom kernel in there
[21:48] <d3vr> I did update-grub now again, and double checked the UUIDs just to make sure, will reboot and see
[21:48] <d3vr> How can I verify if it's a standard kernel or not ?
[21:49] <transhumanist> uname -r might tell you but usually I know when I am using a custom kernel you can also look at the .config and compare it with a ubuntu .config from same kernel version
[21:49] <transhumanist> do a diff
[21:50] <transhumanist> If i rememeber right at the top of the .config there is a line that IS supposed to tell you but its not reliable
[21:51] <ravage> d3vr, the current version is 5.15.0-40-generic. did you try to mount all required dirs like sys,dev,proc in a chroot, update the kernel?
[21:52] <ravage> it should homefully take care of all the uuids and drivers needed too
[21:52] <ravage> i still dont know what driver could be missing so it does not see sda and so on
[21:53] <ravage> so maybe also send us "lspci" while you are doing that in the chroot
[21:55] <transhumanist> ravage do you know what causes my LSB error in above posting by chance I am looking for a good example of systemd .services file  but even the lines I included at the top of the file are not in the examples but its indicated (for debian at least they are required), I am thinking thats not the problem however
[21:56] <d3vr> ravage yes everything should be mounted, I'm mounting the root partition to /mnt and the /boot partition to /mnt/boot
[21:57] <ravage> ok. and you did /proc /sys and /dev too?
[21:57] <d3vr> lspci: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1/raw/c222036a28bf8eb71615c2415da5b3109433929d/lspci
[21:57] <ravage> proc usually just as procfs and the others with bind?
[21:57] <d3vr> ravage yes /proc, /sys and /dev too
[21:58] <d3vr> but wait, they're not separate partitions
[21:58] <transhumanist> what kind of partitions are they?
[21:58] <ravage> transhumanist, you cant just paste a bash script below a half-finished systemd script :)
[21:59] <transhumanist> the bash script is separate
[21:59] <transhumanist> what is the systemd script missing?
[21:59] <d3vr> so they're /dev/sda1 = swap, /dev/sda2 = /boot, /dev/sda3 = /, /dev/sda4 = /home
[21:59] <d3vr> so I'm mounting /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3
[21:59] <d3vr> and chrooting
[21:59] <transhumanist> the # comments above I added to the systemd script from what I read they are needed  for LSB compliance
[22:01] <transhumanist> ok d3vr what kind of partitions are they
[22:01] <ravage> d3vr, thats ok. but did you also take care of the others i mentioend?
[22:02] <ravage> what is the output of "mount" in the chroot?
[22:02] <d3vr> proc, sys and dev are in the root partition
[22:02] <ravage> no they will be emptry
[22:02] <ravage> 1 sec
[22:03] <ravage> where do you mount your root and boot?
[22:03] <ravage> i mean the mount points
[22:03] <d3vr> root in /mnt and boot in /mnt/boot
[22:03] <d3vr> Here's the output of mount from inside chroot: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1/raw/788a2a3bfdecf323bca07644ff65c0107be16e72/mount%2520inside%2520chroot
[22:04] <transhumanist> is the boot flag set?
[22:04] <d3vr> Not sure, how can I check
[22:04] <d3vr> sorry my knowledge here is a bit spotty
[22:04] <ravage> that looks ok
[22:05] <ravage> if you just do an "update-grub"
[22:05] <ravage> does that give you any errors?
[22:05] <d3vr> ```Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub'
[22:05] <d3vr> Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/hetzner.cfg'
[22:05] <d3vr> Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub.d/init-select.cfg'
[22:05] <d3vr> Generating grub configuration file ...
[22:05] <d3vr> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-27-generic
[22:05] <d3vr> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-27-generic
[22:05] <ravage> ok we wait for you to get unsilenced :P
[22:07] <ravage> try a pastebin
[22:07] <ravage> also the contents of /etc/default/grub.d/hetzner.cfg would be very intereting
[22:08] <d3vr> Output of update-grub: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1/raw/85ef8ca6360ef44ea1b50acec27e7d12e4840c9b/update-grub
[22:09] <d3vr> hetzner.cfg: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/d3vr/480bca06f6db19b655632d92c7ae56c1/raw/81c0b9b6265d9396cc0d917b27b55aa9224d26fd/hetzner.cfg
[22:09] <ravage> ok. that should be no harm at least. just some settings to fix some of their problems about consoles
[22:10] <ravage> do an "apt update" first now
[22:10] <transhumanist> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/12/grub-doesnt-detect-windows-linux-distros-fix
[22:10] <ravage> and then "apt install linux-image-5.15.0-40-generic"
[22:11] <jhutchins> d3vr: It might be a good idea to find out exactly what the differences between the hetzner image and a standard Debian install.  That might give some clues to what you're struggling with.
[22:12] <ravage> transhumanist, cant you put the start and stop commands directly into the systemd file instead of using a bash file?
[22:12] <transhumanist> I might try that but I dont know how good examples are scarce so it seems
[22:12] <ravage> transhumanist, and you dont need any comments in the systemd service file at all. you can directly start with [Unit]
[22:13] <d3vr> ravage alright done, update-grub will pick up the latest version automatically ?
[22:13] <d3vr> should I uninstall the older kernel ?
[22:13] <ravage> it should run update-grub
[22:13] <ravage> but you can run it again and it should find the new kernel
[22:13] <ravage> keep the old one
[22:14] <d3vr> You're right it did, didn't notice at first
[22:14] <ravage> ok so before we try to fix something that isnt broken anymore reboot
[22:17] <ravage> transhumanist, and there is the package zram-config that should create this service for you
[22:18] <d3vr> rebooted, ssh not responding as usual, I'll reboot into rescue again and check the journal
[22:18] <ravage> d3vr, so that server does not have a remote console?
[22:18] <transhumanist> ravage I know I was trying to use zswap too and also facebooks mulithread implemenation of zlib seems one interferes with the other
[22:19] <transhumanist> I had it working then suddenly it stopped...lol
[22:20] <ravage> d3vr, does it ping? or do you really only try ssh?
[22:20] <d3vr> ravage the way dedicated servers work on Hetzner you either reboot into a rescue system or attach a KVM Console (which you have to order via support, and you get free access for 3 hours)
[22:20] <d3vr> doesn't ping either
[22:20] <transhumanist> wait so why are you using ssh why not connect to it directly , perphaps networking isnt working?
[22:20] <transhumanist> ah its a remote server ok
[22:20] <d3vr> Yeah remote, and I try to ping before attempting to ssh
[22:21] <ravage> d3vr, and you had the console before i guess?
[22:21] <d3vr> it's a painful process, and you can imagine the amount of fun I've been having for 10 hours today
[22:21] <transhumanist> so there is no tty access to the machine?
[22:21] <d3vr> ravage they gave me a console right after installing the new drive today, but it wasn't responding to keyboard input at which point they told me to try via the rescue system because there might have been an issue with the OS
[22:22] <ravage> that console does not really care about the OS. i think someone was just too stupid to attach the KVM correctly :)
[22:23] <ravage> check if you can find anything different in the journal
[22:23] <d3vr> Yeah well I don't have any prior experience with KVM Consoles to be able to question what they told me
[22:24] <ravage> if you want i can take a look at it from the rescue system too. i cant do magic but i can try
[22:24] <transhumanist> the whole idea of KVM console is its below the operating system and do you mean KVM as in monitor switching or kvm as in the kernel virtual machine manager?
[22:25] <ravage> transhumanist, in this case it is a seperate device you connect via USB usually. it has its own network connection and a webserver to provice a remote console
[22:26] <ravage> (and also connect it to VGA/DVI for the image)
[22:26] <ravage> im sure the latest versions may support HDMI. but servers usually use VGA)
[22:26] <transhumanist> I would have them try and remote into it and see if they can do it, perhaps that might ring some bells
[22:26] <d3vr> transhumanist from their docs: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/maintainance/kvm-console/
[22:27] <ravage> ah lantronix spider
[22:27] <ravage> usually reliable
[22:27] <ravage> used that a lot of times :)
[22:28] <transhumanist> do you have another server on that network?
[22:29] <d3vr> so in the new journal, the updated kernel is being used, I can see a bunch of ACPI errors, and the usual Timed out waiting for device /dev/disk/by-uuid/3198101c-c38b-44f2-865f-9040cb8d2d01.
[22:29] <transhumanist> if so try and connect to the other server , if it cant then, there is an issue, if you can connect to that server and it has a webbrowser try and hop over to it
[22:29] <d3vr> Full log: https://oshi.at/Mscs
[22:31] <d3vr> transhumanist I have another VPS from their network, not sure it's in the same DC tho
[22:31] <ravage> d3vr, can you remove boot and swap from your fstab=
[22:31] <ravage> a comment is enough
[22:31] <d3vr> but like I've mentioned before, it worked just fine before they added the new drive today
[22:32] <d3vr> ravage and leave the root partition ?
[22:32] <ravage> yes
[22:32] <transhumanist> ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve symbol [\_PR.PR00._CPC], AE_NOT_FOUND (20210730/psargs-330)   << whats this?
[22:32] <transhumanist> driver for what?
[22:32] <ravage> all that ACPI stuff could go away with a bios update. but i dont think its relevant for now
[22:32] <d3vr> I have no idea, I don't believe that error appeared in the older kernel
[22:33] <ravage> d3vr, Jul 11 00:17:09 beaver kernel: EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: (null). Quota mode: none.
[22:33] <ravage> so it has your root partition just fine
[22:33] <ravage> and im pretty sure we dont need to mount /boot. and swap is irrelevant anyway
[22:34] <d3vr> Crossing my fingers hard right now haha, rebooting
[22:36] <ravage> it is still a little strange that it reaches the network target but doesnt ping
[22:36] <ravage> but lets see what happens now first
[22:36] <transhumanist> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8675013.html?sid=72f8112accb80d47fd6612888b74831e
[22:36] <transhumanist> seems its missing video config parameters , maybe?
[22:37] <transhumanist> in the kernel
[22:37] <transhumanist> probably not relevant but...
[22:41] <ravage> d3vr, anything new?
[22:44] <d3vr> Looks like it proceeded to mounting the partition and starting my services but I still wasn't able to ssh or ping the server
[22:44] <d3vr> Weird
[22:44] <d3vr> also this: Timed out waiting for device /dev/sda1.
[22:44] <d3vr> even though I don't have that in fstab
[22:45] <d3vr> full journal: https://oshi.at/wcVD
[22:46] <ravage> i start thinking that your network interface never comes up somehow
[22:46] <d3vr> How would I go about investigating / debugging that ?
[22:46] <d3vr> thoughts ?
[22:47] <transhumanist> how about downloading an img file of it and trying it locally
[22:47] <ravage> d3vr, i forgot. sda1 is which partiton?
[22:48] <transhumanist> actually just have them try and connect to it at the help desk
[22:48] <d3vr> swap
[22:48] <d3vr> transhumanist tried, they said they don't do software support, only hardware. It's not a managed service:/
[22:48] <transhumanist> geezus
[22:48] <ravage> d3vr, and you are sure there is nothing swap related in your fstab anymore?
[22:49] <d3vr> at this point, I'm just exhausted, I might end up copying all my data into the new drive and using their install script to reinsintall on the first drive
[22:49] <d3vr> ravage everything commented except for the root partition
[22:49] <ravage> d3vr, before you do that i could check it from the rescue system. maybe i find something. you can watch via screen. but only if you want :)
[22:52] <transhumanist> d3vr they should still try and connect locally and see if they can connect if not it could be a hardware problem so they have to take it at least that far
[23:22] <meethos1> anyone know how to deal with 'ee key too small' error? i tried tuning /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf and installed crypto-policies with no luck
[23:29] <Teckla> Not sure if this is just my imagination, but Ubuntu 22.04 inside Hyper-V on Windows 11 feels like it has better graphics performance now  :)
[23:54] <imi> how can I make ubuntu to cycle through several desktop backgrounds (randomly or sequentially)?
[23:57] <Grems> imi: You could use a systemctl-timer that triggers a script that uses `feh` and `shuf` :)
[23:59] <descent> imi the photo viewer does it i think