[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:29] <RikMills> Hi BluesKaj 
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi RikMills
[13:30]  * RikMills hands BluesKaj a dedicated service award ;)
[13:30] <BluesKaj> RikMills, what's new today?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> hehe
[13:30] <RikMills> BluesKaj: trying to work out what to do with plasma 5.25 for jammy
[13:32] <BluesKaj> well, there haven't been many reportable bugs to send to launchpad, so i think you guys are doing a great job 
[13:32]  * BluesKaj nods
[13:33] <RikMills> well, the kubuntu focus team have some issue with it, so it could be best to make a new opt-in ppa for it
[13:33] <RikMills> I really can't come up with a good name for the PPA
[13:34] <RikMills> backports-edge sounds too unstable
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:34] <RikMills> backports-plasma is too specific
[13:34] <RikMills> backports-extra is one possibility
[13:34] <BluesKaj> what's the issue?
[13:34]  * RikMills is not sure
[13:36] <RikMills> BluesKaj: they have some issues with plasma crashing on theme change, an their default widget and icons moving about on relogin, messing up their very carefully created default setup for customers
[13:37] <BluesKaj> something default widget ppa ?   :-)
[13:38] <RikMills> hah
[13:50] <BluesKaj> here's another bug one of my chat friends found, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1974196
[13:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1974196 in apt (Ubuntu Kinetic) "Installing libudev1 on a new Jammy installation uninstalls many packages." [Undecided, In Progress]
[13:52] <RikMills> hmmmmmmmmm
[13:54] <BluesKaj> doesn't seem to affect Kinetic, at least not IME
[17:28] <blaze> I don't understand, did someone remove pipewire-jack? Why?
[17:32] <RikMills> blaze: in what release did that package last exist? I don't see it
[17:33] <blaze> Well, it got removed everywhere
[17:35] <RikMills> blaze: a virual package then?
[17:35] <RikMills> *virtual?
[17:35] <blaze> Check the debian repos
[17:35] <RikMills> package.ubuntu.com says it did not exist as a real one in supported releases that it tracks
[17:38] <blaze> The part I don't understand is how I've been using it if it never was there :D
[17:40] <RikMills> blaze: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/kinetic/amd64/pipewire-jack/0.3.54-2
[17:40] <RikMills> odd it did not show up on p.u.c
[17:42] <blaze> I'm firing up qpwgraph, like I usually do, aaand... it doesn't work. Big surpise :D