[00:00] <arraybolt3[m]> lxqt-config finished
[00:00] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): ^
[00:00] <tsimonq2> cool thanks
[00:03] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah, glad we're redoing lximage-qt, Andrew's gotten ahead of the game on already 1.1.0'd it in Experimental. So now it's just a matter of Ubuntu differences and not a full-on upgrade.
[00:03] <arraybolt3[m]> s/on/and/
[00:05] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): OK, quick question. Andrew has version numbers like "1.1.0~" in his build deps, while we have just "1.1.0". I know the ~ means before, but what is it doing there, and how should I work around it?
[00:05] <arraybolt3[m]> (Or do I just clobber it?)
[00:05] <tsimonq2> Nah, clobber it
[00:05] <tsimonq2> Just unnecessary noise
[00:09] <tsimonq2> `$ dput ftp-master lxqt-notificationd_1.1.0-1_source.changes`
 "`$ dput ftp-master lxqt-archiver..." <- `lxqt-archiver_0.6.0-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental`
 "lxqt-config finished" <- Reviewing now
 "lxqt-config finished" <- Needs redoing. Andrew was there.
[00:12] <arraybolt3[m]> ...
[00:12] <tsimonq2> Feel free to force push over, I'm discarding my local copy
[00:12]  * tsimonq2 sends Andrew an email with the CodiMD link
[00:13] <tsimonq2> oh wait can't...
[00:13] <tsimonq2> hm
[00:13] <tsimonq2> well let's continue working around him
[00:13] <tsimonq2> and hope we get to everything first lol
[00:13] <tsimonq2> this is probably the only time we'll be doing this dancing
[00:14] <arraybolt3[m]> Well, hey, at least stuff is happening!
[00:14] <tsimonq2> I'm quick at banging these out and uploading them. :P
[00:14] <arraybolt3[m]> Probably quicker than me, but I'm helping some!
[00:19] <tsimonq2> `lxqt-notificationd_1.1.0-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental`
[00:21] <arraybolt3[m]> Building lximage-qt...
[00:22] <arraybolt3[m]> (Wow, you are fast! And I'm moving at near-breakneck speeds for me. Hopefully practice will equal speed.)
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Yes, yes it will :P
[00:22] <tsimonq2> I'm also blasting music and just cranking it out
[00:23] <arraybolt3[m]> That's what I do!
[00:23]  * arraybolt3[m] moves to desktop so I can do that
 let me take a closer look, i think i know what it does but i want to confirm. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> Rober: https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/commit/266e2478c60ac7c51e2a796218975b131be2d47a what do you think about this?)
[00:26] <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[00:27] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: lximage-qt :heavy_check_mark:
[00:27] <arraybolt3[m]> (Was waiting for Element to boot, so used IRC for a sec)
[00:29] <tsimonq2> `$ dput ftp-master lxqt-openssh-askpass_1.1.0-1_source.changes`
[00:32] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): OK, Andrew already has lxqt-about on 1.1.0-1. Do I add to the existing changelog entry, or start a brand-new one and bump the version number?
[00:33] <tsimonq2> Add to the existing entry
[00:33] <arraybolt3[m]> It's already accepted into Experimental.
[00:33] <tsimonq2> Only do new changelog entries if that one has actually been in the archive
[00:33] <arraybolt3[m]> I don't think I can actually do that.
[00:33] <tsimonq2> And e.g. lximage-qt I'm dropping that extra one
[00:33] <arraybolt3[m]> (Should've checked the tracker before asking.)
[00:33] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: Oh yeah? Then bump the version and start a new one
[00:33] <arraybolt3[m]> -1.1 or -2?
[00:33] <tsimonq2> 1.1 is for stable releases
[00:34] <tsimonq2> -2 is cool
[00:34] <arraybolt3[m]> :+1
[00:34] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍️
[00:34] <tsimonq2> 😆
[00:36] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: `$ dput ftp-master lximage-qt_1.1.0-1_source.changes`
[00:38] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Andrew also did lxqt-policykit\
[00:38] <tsimonq2>  * arraybolt3: Andrew also did lxqt-policykit
[00:39] <arraybolt3[m]> So basically he decided to sprint and is a tad bit (ok, more than a tad bit) faster than I am.
[00:40] <tsimonq2> I mean, most really active Debian Developers are on the same time zone at DebConf right now
[00:40] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: You're a lot faster than when you first started, don't forget that.
[00:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Building lxqt-about...
 simon or aaron send me your sbuild calls you do for package builds i'm working on automating some shit and want to use examples that work fer ya
 also send me a repo we know works so i can test too xD
[00:45] <arraybolt3[m]> @teward001: I use "sbuild -d kinetic-amd64", or "sbuild --extra-repository <stuff> --extra-repository-key <stuff> -d jammy-amd64"
[00:45] <arraybolt3[m]> (WIth the extra-repository being the LXQt backports repo)
[00:46] <tsimonq2> yep about that, I also use shm schroots
[00:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): lxqt-about ready for review
[00:47] <tsimonq2> ack will look after I'm done with lxqt-session
 "arraybolt3: `$ dput ftp-master..." <- `lximage-qt_1.1.0-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental`
 "`$ dput ftp-master lxqt-openssh..." <- `lxqt-openssh-askpass_1.1.0-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental`
[00:59] <tsimonq2> `$ dput ftp-master lxqt-session_1.1.1-1_source.changes`
 "Simon Quigley (Developer): lxqt..." <- `$ dput ftp-master lxqt-about_1.1.0-2_source.changes`
[01:04] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, it is so cool watching the other person working in CodiMD.
[01:05] <tsimonq2> ikr :)
[01:06] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): lxqt-sudo ready for review
[01:07] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): Andrew did NOT yet get to lxqt-sudo, fyi.
[01:08] <tsimonq2> I know, he did get to pcmanfm-qt though
[01:09] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: xdg-desktop-portal-lxqt has been accepted into Ubuntu but not Debian. I'll let you do that
[01:09]  * tsimonq2 works on lxqt-sudo
[01:09] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): Y'know, we don't have to wait for the dinstall if we have our local setup right (which I do).
[01:09] <arraybolt3[m]> Just have the local PPA setup, and make your GBP configuration in your home run an sbuild command that recognizes the local PPA.
[01:10] <arraybolt3[m]> That's the setup I have, works great so far.
[01:10] <arraybolt3[m]> I just load it with debs built from previous packaging sessions.
[01:10] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: I thought we were waiting on dinstall but we're actually waiting on Debian's binary NEW queue
[01:10] <tsimonq2> Much more uncharted territory for me
[01:11] <tsimonq2> teward: We're hard-blocked on lxqt-globalkeys SONAME bump pkg rename in Debian ^^^^^^^
[01:11] <teward> hah
[01:11] <arraybolt3[m]> I guess we do have to wait before uploading, but we can do the packaging.
[01:11] <teward> so you need to prod someone on the debian archive team then :P
[01:11] <teward> can't do anything about that
[01:11] <tsimonq2> teward: You said you know handwave people. I only know handwave people in Ubuntu :P
[01:11] <tsimonq2> also
[01:11] <tsimonq2> yes I already asked
[01:11] <tsimonq2> in #d-ftp
[01:12] <tsimonq2> but I'm lazy and impatient
 for sponsoring
[01:12] <tsimonq2> oh for SPONSORING
 not for binNEW acceptance
[01:12] <tsimonq2> damn.
 ye bage is a DD who can sponsor and such i know those people well, but not the debian archive admins
 though i can probably strongarm them if i have to i have better things to do
 like fixing my network xD
[01:12] <tsimonq2> pffft you don't need a network for anything duh
 *shoves simon into the abyss*
[01:13] <arraybolt3[m]> So... wait, why do we need help with the soname bump? I'm missing something, I thought Debian does whatever it does, we try to influence it, then make do with whatever they give us and fix stuff as best we can when it gets down to us.
[01:13]  * arraybolt3[m] tosses teward one of those rabid tasmanian devils
[01:15] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: lxqt-sudo> Be careful...... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/226b73ed2c740f010a5e4470674c4fe756cdc12e)
[01:15] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, sadly, I have to go afk for a while (work to do in $PERSONAL_LIFE), so I've relinquished hold on qterminal. If it's still here when I get back, I'll do it.
[01:15] <tsimonq2> Go for it. I'll let you tackle that
[01:15] <arraybolt3[m]> ?! I spent so much time on the copyright files in Backports, I was certain they were good by default. Grr...
[01:16] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): Fixed and pushed.
[01:16] <arraybolt3[m]> (The lxqt-sudo thing.)
[01:17] <arraybolt3[m]> And now I know to not ever be certain that anything is good by default.
[01:17] <tsimonq2> ty :)
[01:17] <tsimonq2> `$ dput ftp-master lxqt-sudo_1.1.0-1_source.changes`
[01:17]  * arraybolt3[m] goes afk, c ya soon
[01:17] <tsimonq2> cya
[01:17] <tsimonq2> okay before I go afk for the day, I'm getting some setting changes in backports
[01:17] <tsimonq2> if I can lol
[01:21] <teward> as foryou saying i don'tneed a network, i work remote for FT job now
[01:21] <teward> no internet, no work, no pay
[01:21] <teward> :P
[01:21] <teward> so *puts tsimonq2 into /dev/null*
[01:25] <tsimonq2> `$ dput ssh-ppa:lubuntu-dev/backports-staging lubuntu-default-settings_22.04.2.0.1_source.changes`
[01:25] <tsimonq2> teward :P
[01:26] <tsimonq2> `lxqt-about_1.1.0-2_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental`
[01:26] <tsimonq2> `lxqt-session_1.1.1-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental`
[01:40] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, I've got yet more work before I can come back, sorry for the delay.
[01:40] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: All good, take your time 
[01:40] <tsimonq2> You basically only have the hard stuff left 
[01:41] <tsimonq2> Wellllll I guess I can knock out qterminal...
[01:41] <tsimonq2> dinstall will run soon
[01:42] <tsimonq2> guiverc, Leo K: ^^ on your Debian systems, watch for updates in Experimental and feel free to test as they come in. I'll put a formal call for testing on Discourse somewhere 
[01:42] <tsimonq2> (Once it's all ready)
[01:48] <guiverc> ack; i watch (packages, upgrades etc) & use it myself normally at night  (different box in the kitchen; my other boxes are on stable so they won't see it); but post please in development please on discourse; debian feels offtopic in annoucements to me but development applies I feel
[01:52] <tsimonq2> `lxqt-sudo_1.1.0-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental`
[01:52] <tsimonq2> Will do guiverc
[02:04] <teward> *shivs tsimonq2 for obvious reasons*
[02:04] <teward> read your email and the reply to your request
[02:08] <guiverc> thanks tsimonq2 
[02:28] <guiverc> thanks teward 
 *burps* ye *goes to get sleep*
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Alright, I think I'm fried for now. See you all in a bit.
[03:26] <guiverc> oops, exploring fridge/planet issue & noticed Lubuntu still said Lubuntu uses LXDE there; sorry fix up finally.
[03:26] <arraybolt3[m]> guiverc: 👋
[03:30] <guiverc> (it's just one of many links that are very-outdated... we (lubuntu) weren't alone)
[16:40] <tsimonq2> Good morning 
[16:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Good morning!
[16:43] <tsimonq2> Sup Aaron?
[16:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Nothing much, just starting my day so far. And you?
[16:44] <tsimonq2> Just about the same :)
[16:45] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3 @arraybolt3:matrix.org: I updated Andrew with our progress last night and since he's at DebConf he'll be doing some NEW poking
[16:50] <tsimonq2> I'm still gonna be messing around here for a bit, if you need something reviewed please ping 
[16:51] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. I'm gonna see about lxqt-config.
[16:57] <tsimonq2> On the bright side they should have my car today 
[17:28] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): Good news on lxqt-about, looks like we got there first and Andrew applied his changes over the top of ours, I checked the diff and everything's still just fine, so I'm just doing a quick build, if that works it's done.
[17:33] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): lxqt-config ready for review
[18:14] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-panel/issues/1792
[18:14] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: ack
[18:14] <arraybolt3[m]> Looking
[18:14]  * tsimonq2 reviews lxqt-config
[18:18] <arraybolt3[m]> tsimonq2: 👍️ and left comment
[18:18] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: NACK on lxqt-config> Andrew got to it first, needs merging in
[18:19] <arraybolt3[m]> What does NACK mean?
[18:19] <tsimonq2> non-ack
[18:19] <tsimonq2> as in, -1
[18:19] <arraybolt3[m]> (Also, I ensured all of Andrew's changes were merged in. I missed a changelog entry, didn't I?)
[18:20] <tsimonq2> Merge in the Git history too, not just the changes
[18:20] <tsimonq2> Otherwise I can't do a push without merging Salsa in
[18:20] <arraybolt3[m]> I deleted my repo, re-cloned from the main repo where Andrew had fiddled with it, and then checked to see what had happened. Looks like Andrew merged mine into his.
[18:21] <tsimonq2> And thus three-way merge mess :)
[18:21] <arraybolt3[m]> I also did "git merge debian/sid", it said "Already up to date".
[18:21] <arraybolt3[m]> So what step am I missing?
[18:21] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3[m]: https://tracker.debian.org/news/1345475/accepted-lxqt-config-110-1-source-into-experimental/
[18:22] <tsimonq2> So your new changes would need to be directly based on that
[18:22]  * tsimonq2 shrugs
[18:22] <arraybolt3[m]> OK that's weird. I literally deleted my Salsa fork and re-forked from the LXQt team one.
[18:22] <arraybolt3[m]> I didn't see any hint of what you just showed me.
[18:22]  * tsimonq2 has an RSS feed and several ways of monitoring such things :P
[18:23] <arraybolt3[m]> Weirder yet still, I can see Andrew's changes in Salsa, but for some reason my fork didn't show them at all.
[18:24] <arraybolt3[m]> 🤦‍♂️OK, I can't read. I redid lxqt-about, not lxqt-config. -_-
[18:25] <arraybolt3[m]> That explains everything. OK, back to the drawing board...
[18:27] <tsimonq2> ah :)
[18:27] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Friendly reminder on more syncpackage lines.
[18:28] <tsimonq2> You may want to use the Kinetic column to track those
[18:28] <arraybolt3[m]> Will have in a bit
[18:28] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh, nice!
[18:29]  * tsimonq2 was using Todoist for the longest time but switched back to TaskWarrior yesterday
[18:29] <tsimonq2> it's just... the bomb
[18:36] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): https://pastebin.com/sL9Xs16e syncpackage
[18:39] <tsimonq2> $ syncpackage -d experimental -f -s arraybolt3 lxqt-globalkeys
[18:39] <tsimonq2> The source package 'lxqt-globalkeys' status Superseded not in (Pending,Published) in experimental for pockets Release, Security, Updates, Proposed with status in Pending, Published
[18:39] <tsimonq2> Still in NEW
[18:40] <arraybolt3[m]> Thus the warning about that possibly being a problem. I figured something like that could happen.
[18:40] <tsimonq2> All other syncpackage requests sponsored.
[18:40] <tsimonq2> All good
[18:41] <tsimonq2> Taking further syncpackage requests as you have them
[18:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Nice, thank you!
[18:41] <tsimonq2> Of course :)
[18:41] <tsimonq2> Actually...
[18:41]  * tsimonq2 goes afk for a bit
[18:51] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Are you subscribed to l-devel?
[18:51] <tsimonq2> The mailing list
[18:51] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): Yes.
[19:12] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2022-July/001910.html
[19:13] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Did you get to qterminal yet?
[19:13] <arraybolt3[m]> sigh No, still fighting with a ton of other stuff...
[19:13] <tsimonq2> Got it, I'll take it
[19:13] <arraybolt3[m]> (Support session, plus libfm-qt and lxqt-config are all competing for attention.)
[19:14] <tsimonq2> heh
[19:27] <tsimonq2> `$ dput ftp-master .qterminal_1.1.0-1_source.changes`
[19:27] <tsimonq2> s/.//
[19:35] <arraybolt3[m]> Building lxqt-config...
[19:35] <arraybolt3[m]> (Wow, that package was a doozy. Glad it's almost done!)
[19:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Simon Quigley (Developer): lxqt-config ready for review
[19:43] <arraybolt3[m]> (Hopefully got it actually done this time)