[00:16] I am running into an unusual issue where I use a local APT repository with the trusted=yes set across several Ubuntu hosts. If I run an apt-get update on 99% of the hosts it works no fine, but I have one particular hosts configured the same way that throws an error complaining about "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public [00:16] key is not available: NO_PUBKEY" but any GPG checking should be bypassed with the "trusted=yes" option... is this some time of bug I am running into? I've tried cleaning out all files related to the local repository in /var/lib/apt/lists and then run apt-get update, but it does not fix the issue. [00:24] Is there a pre-made tool for verifying hard drive images? with sha256, I'd have to spend another 8 hours for a single error, I'm hoping there's something that can tell me where the error is so i only need to recopy a small section. preferably something that runs on both linux and windows [00:33] ladeda: maybe re-check /etc/apt/sources.list *and* /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory of files? maybe there's a surprising overlooked line there.. [00:33] Mikemk: what problem exactly are you trying to solve? [00:34] I'm upgrading my hard drive [00:34] sarnold yeah that's the first thing I did nothing out of the ordinary here no duplicate sources that don't have the trusted flag [00:34] ladeda dang :( I was hoping for something easily overlooked, hehe [00:35] don't have an adapter to copy directly to the new M.2 drive, so i'm copying over the network to my desktop. It takes 4 hours to copy once, so if there's any errors (not unlikely over the network), I'd like to be able to only have to recopy the errored part [00:35] instead of 1 sha256sum for the entire file, have it be 1 for the first GB, another for the 2nd, or something like that [00:36] something that'll pinpoint the error for me [00:36] oh, so you did something like dd if=/dev/sda of=- | ssh remote cat > bar kind of thing? [00:36] yeah [00:38] and i want the quickest way to verify the image after copying. [00:38] I think I'd do a sha256 or md5 or whatever you prefer on both the drive and the file at the same time and mostly hope they come up identical :) if you used ssh, it'll provide far better guarantees than just tcp and ip's crc checks [00:39] Didn't use ssh, I have the terminal window in a windows network share [00:39] smb then? hmm. I don't know what it does for reliability :( [00:40] but dozens of windows users use it without too much complaint, maybe it's good enough to try the whole-thing checksum first and hope it works out [00:40] I suppose I can, but I've got 3 hours left till it finishes copying, so I can write a tool to give me the checksum per GB. Just hoping someone already did [00:41] you could put together a small shell script around dd, using skip= and count= to selectively read eg one gig chunks at a time, as you said, but both tasks might finish while you're writing it.. [00:42] I doubt it'll take me 3 hours to write it [00:43] Though I am taking the total sha256 of the ssd as i wait [00:43] heh yeah, it won't take three hours [00:44] alright, well thanks. if anyone happens to already have a script like that, let me know so i don't have to write it myself [00:46] I found this but it's an old bug [00:46] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=872543 [00:46] Debian bug 872543 in apt "apt does not honor trusted=yes from sources.list" [Important, Open] [00:47] I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 so can't be the same issue [00:50] try [trusted=yes check-date=no] all the same, it's a hint, otherwise we've got nothing :) [00:51] Tried that... doesn't work. [00:51] ;( [00:57] ladeda: there are debug options to apt, have you tried them? [00:57] bottom of apt.conf(5) [00:59] no ill try those thank you [01:11] Hello [01:16] how can I remove the packages that are installed when installing another package? eg: apt install gcc dumps 200mb of stuff on the drive, remove gcc removes 40k. autoremove doesn't do anything [01:17] I have the list of dependant packages from the install command, but there surely must be a way to not have to manually specify every dep that came with the thing? [01:17] (I thought this was what autoremove was all about) [01:19] reboot, try again to autoremove? [01:20] else such small dependencies linked are not that harmfull [01:20] well this is in a container, so I'm trying to minimize the layer size [01:20] but i must have actually done something wrong because in a fresh container, autoremove is removeing what I expect [01:20] will retry tomorrw [01:20] then use one container for gcc... [01:20] etc [01:20] yeah, i should be using multistage builds [01:21] have fun! [01:21] ty [01:25] upgraded Ubuntu versions, yay! Lots of stuff stopped working :) [01:26] " lot of stuff stopped..." ppa's are disabled, read the releasenotes for changes perhaps? [01:27] fwiw, my problem was I had also installed unixodbc-dev which has many (all?) of the same deps as gcc [01:28] any -dev without gcc, what would you be using then? [01:30] basically I need to get some perl modules into the image, which required several -devs and gcc to build, I figured I didn't need the dev headers after building the modules, but didn't have enough confidence to remove them initially without some testing [01:31] Is there a tool I can use to configure my network? [01:32] Rather than editing configuration files, which I always mess up... [01:32] fikran[m]: what are you running there? [01:33] Impish 21.10 as of a few hours ago :) [01:34] that's EOL as of today/tomorrow [01:42] fikran[m]: anyways, to also answer your question, if this is ubuntu desktop (gnome-shell), then you can configure networking using the menu on the top right corner, or using settings. if you want more options, there is also "advanced network configuration" or similar (?) [01:42] AKA nm-connection-editor === NeoFAT32_ is now known as NeoFAT32 === ootput1 is now known as ootput [02:22] tomreyn: You suggesged nm-onnection-editor. I don't have a GUI at the moment [02:22] This is a Raspberry Pi. [02:23] How do I manually make an Ubuntu Live persistence USB drive? [02:23] on what host, Elon_Satoshi ? [02:24] !usb [02:24] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [02:24] I've experienced various freezing of my ubuntu, from 16.04, 18.04, 20.04, and today, 22.04. Thankfully its rare. I know within minutes of when it happened today, can anyone suggest what logs I should look at? [02:24] oerheks: Arch Linux [02:24] mkusb on linux, i guess [02:24] oh [02:24] nope, not for arch [02:25] ask in arch? [02:25] fikran[m]: see, that's why i asked what you're running. there is nmtui if you want a text ui for network manager, nmcli for a CLI, and netplan for a simplified configuration frontend for both systemd-networkd and network manager [02:25] no gnome or anything, mainly running it as a server. So freezes are a horrible thing [02:26] FaTaL_G: does it lock up fully then, or just freeze temporarily and recover a bit later? [02:26] locks up fully [02:27] can it be just graphics? have you tried magic sysrq? [02:27] and worse yet... which makes me wonder .... [02:27] rare lockups, do a memtest86 run [02:28] I have PTSD with apt update && upgrade; if it says "kernel" updates..... [02:28] I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I have had to boot from live disk/usb and fix-boot or chroot update-initramfs [02:29] it could be video related, but I use onboard, no nvidia... and its all terminal driven [02:29] no x-win [02:30] memtest has passed with this hardware before, but I can try that again [02:31] so if it's not certain that it's a hard cpu lockup, then you should use sysrq-s,u,b next time it happens, and then check your logs after reboot [02:32] I will write that down, thank you [02:32] !sysrq [02:32] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [02:32] but if you're workin in a tty, ctrl-alt-del should also just work there, i guess [02:33] it does not [02:33] oh have I tried that, so many times [02:34] and alt-# session changing to a new terminal, no luck [02:35] sysrq goes directly to the kernel, so it's a tid bit more direct. [02:35] see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging [02:35] does the numlock keyeven work? [02:36] but i'd also start with testing the hardware [02:36] always wonder what the sys rq key was for [02:36] wondered* [02:36] well, after reboot, I had a ztsd-compression message, and no init found, kernel panic. had to sysrescue. and the boot partition was dirty [02:36] fiddling with the key and seeing what the light does is a quick way to guess just how wedged the machine is [02:37] no real reason it should have been dirty since ... while the system is running... after boot... /boot shouldn't be getting written to... right??? [02:37] no numlock and capslock dont change states [02:37] updates write to /boot if you update grub or the kernel [02:37] FaTaL_G: This kind of excitement is why you're messing with an experimental FS though, isn't it? [02:37] it's mounted, that's good enough to have the dirty bit set [02:37] fair enough [02:38] my boot is ext2 [02:38] right? [02:38] thats not experimental anymore :) [02:38] main root is lvm [02:39] why are you using ext2 for your boot partition [02:39] ah that's pretty consistent with ext2; there's no journal to replay upon an unclean shutdown, so you get asked to fsck the thing [02:39] I do pay attention to the update/upgrade window, and I dont see errors when it updates... but if I have to reboot... ugh... its often hosed [02:39] Scratch that, why would you use anything older than ext4 period? [02:40] Mikemk: I had some *crazy* errors that no one else could reproduce, because I was using ext3 at a time that was implemented, poorly, in the ext4 code :) [02:40] Mikemk: I installed it back around 14/16, and the guide I followed or the live disk basically defaulted to it? I dont know. I just never changed it? [02:41] it'd be worth redoing with filesystems from this century [02:41] Even when you installed that guide was severely outdated [02:41] Any guides I can follow? I would love to [02:41] what distro [02:42] wait scratch that, that's obvious [02:42] I'm linux knowledgable, but nowhere near advanced. Im on 22.04 LTS now [02:42] https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overview [02:42] I would say backup everything you need and do a clean install, who knows what oddities you've got [02:42] I dont want to install fresh??? the LVM is fine (and is ext4 I believe) [02:43] its just boot that is ancient [02:43] ugh. A fresh install probably isnt a bad idea. [02:44] I just think I'll have to build a new machine to do it :) [02:44] either copy all the files off /boot, reformat ext4, and copy back, or just move /boot onto your main partition and delete the boot partition (DO NOT delete the EFI partition if it exists) [02:45] I dont have an EFI partition. Everytime I boot into Live from USB, it goes UEFI, and when I use boot-repair it tells me, Im in a EFI session, consider making a EFI partition on disk [02:46] (something to that effect) [02:46] if you do the fresh install, make it a uefi install [02:47] can I move boot on the main partition (lvm) and grub will boot from it? [02:47] boots faster, more modern, less finicky [02:47] I like it [02:47] In theory yes, but i'm not sure the exact steps [02:47] maybe I'll grab a second SSD and go that route. [02:48] Or turn /boot into an efi partition === five614 is now known as five61 [04:55] Hi, sorry I asked this earlier. I don't have a GUI on this machine, I'm just SSH'ed into this host. [04:55] Is there a way to configure my network with a tool? I don't want to accidently kick myself offline. [04:55] I want to set a static IP and setup wifi [04:55] nmtui [04:56] * fikran[m] tries [04:58] fikran: Just be careful, I've messed up networking on a Pi before, thankfully I had it near me and could fix it. Nmtui should be good, though. [04:59] yeah, this wouldn't be catastrophic, but I just don't want to head downstairs and fix it at this hour. [05:06] alright, rebooting this Pi. Lets see how this goes :) [05:07] Awesome! No copying errors! I don't have to spend another 5 hours copying+verifying the old hard drive again! [05:07] Scratch that, I actually do have to, to put the data on the new drive, but you get what I meant [05:12] Worked. Awesome :) [05:12] great [05:13] Connecting from my BNC that works now on that Raspberry Pi. We're coming full circle! [05:30] hi there, for some reason, my laptop wakes up at 4-5 AM when i am asleep, and keeps running and then battery goes 0% and it shut downs... how can i find out whats waking up my laptop [05:31] i usually turn off the mains power supply to laptop when i go to bed and turn it on next morning [05:49] hi [05:49] hey [05:49] silv3r_m00n2, did this start recently? did it ever work properly before (i.e., without waking up at 4-5am)? [05:50] hi luna__ [05:52] silv3r_m00n2: well if you actually turned it off (vs suspend/hibernate it), it's unlikely it could wake itself [05:52] so perhaps you had only suspended/hibernated it [05:53] silv3r_m00n2: could you please confirm what you do in the evening before going to bed? === diskin is now known as Guest6484 === diskin_ is now known as diskin === routebee_ is now known as routebee [06:52] hi there [06:53] my laptop battery looses power even when asleep, overnight in 8 hours it lost 95% power [06:53] it does not drain this fast even when actually working and using [06:53] whats going on [06:53] ubuntu 22.04 [07:03] silv3r_m00n2: using supsend? [07:04] supsend/suspend [07:05] suspend uses minimal power; but only hibernate turns the power off (saving everything to disk; suspend needs RAM to be powered otherwise session is lost) [07:09] Maik: i leave the lid open, and go away from the laptop, switch off the mains power .... laptop goes to sleep in 15 minutes as per settings [07:09] however i have noticed that sometimes, like once every 3 days, the laptop suddenly looses all its power and shuts down... this is weird [07:10] cat /sys/power/mem_sleep [07:10] [s2idle] deep === Bencraft14192 is now known as Bencraft1419 [07:10] also i noticed that this problem wasnt there before, but started only after i upgraded to ubuntu 22.04 on this acer laptop [07:12] sometimes this does not happen and laptop looses only about 8-10% power over night, which is reasonable [07:12] but once every 3 days, it looses entire 100% and shuts down === diskin is now known as Guest3395 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [07:33] Greetings! After bringing up Ubuntu 22.04 from suspense, I noticed that none of US devices seemed to work. For keyboard, the solution was a simply unplug-and-plug-back-in. However, the external audio interface is still not detected. Is there something I can do to reboot the USB service or somehow rescan the devices? [07:35] just being curious if there's others that want to opt out of phased updates? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1981672 [07:35] Launchpad bug 1981672 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt phased out broken code, missing documentation to opt out" [Undecided, New] [07:41] how do the package repositories work in terms of user submitted packages and downloading === ootput7 is now known as ootput [08:06] smallville7123, I don't know what you're asking, but https://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ may help [08:09] (Rerequest, i have Ubuntu acc now) Does someone know why a MBR ubuntu desktop installation has an empty /boot/efi partition? [08:10] goulashsoup, I just completed a desktop install to a 2005 hp; only a single partition was installed which was / ; no ESP was created.. It'll depend on the installer/ISO you use what gets installed; but ESP is not required. If it's empty it's not required [08:11] (fyi: it was Lubuntu 22.04.1 daily I installed using calamares installer) [08:11] guiverc Related question https://superuser.com/questions/1613928/unexpected-efi-system-partition-id-on-mbr-disk [08:11] Is this a known bug? [08:12] Hi, im trying to preseed a 22.04 Desktop Installation but i am unable to find a full example of preseed options. Currently im trying to find the options for the "Updates and other Software" Chapter of the installer. (I tried dumping with debconf-get-selections but the invocation with --installer does not give me any output.) Is there a full example of options necessary for a fully automatic install [08:12] process? [08:13] goulashsoup, I see no details as to what OS/release/ISO was used for that superuser question so cannot see how it relates. [08:13] guiverc In my case it was `ubuntu-20.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso` [08:13] If I use a different 22.04 ISO/installer the result I mentioned can differ; I acknowledge that; but the user has control by ISO used/selected & options used [08:15] guiverc Options Erase disk + LVM + Encryption [08:15] I haven't used that ISO in some time I can't recall what it creates; but yes default could be creating ESP but I can't recall. I do know it will create a system too without one (ie. ubiquity on focal doesn't mandate ESP even if one is default) [08:15] guiverc k thanks [08:18] does Ubuntu have support for third-party package repositories ? [08:18] Apt does, you won't get support for the packages though. [08:18] PPAs are 3rd party package repository; PPA = personal package repository [08:19] smallville7123, ^ [08:19] There's some pretty solid ones too, like the Tor project's. [08:19] could someone create their own and have other users be able to upload to that PPA ? [08:20] goulashsoup, fyi: I just started another QA-test install of jammy (22.04), no ESP exists on disk & won't be created; but no format is being done for this install; manual partitioning [08:20] smallville7123, you can have a team of uploaders with access to PPA [08:20] if you create & host your own too smallville7123 , you can set the rules yourself [08:21] guiverc Maybe it was a bug is now fixed, again i used 20.04... === thelounge38041 is now known as thelounge3804 [08:21] smallville7123, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu [08:21] what if a random user wants to upload to this PPA ? [08:22] guiverc: didn't you hit this one with BIOS/MBR + manual partitioning? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1951674 [08:22] Launchpad bug 1951674 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Incorrectly warns 'No EFI System Partition was found' on BIOS/MBR" [Undecided, Confirmed] [08:22] goulashsoup, I don't believe it's a bug... 22.04.1 is the next release thus why I'm QA-testing that; 20.04.5 is next and I'd expect identical results there ! (I just don't clearly recall my last focal install; recently has been mostly kinetic & jammy) [08:22] See also: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Setup [08:23] alkisg, I'm not tagged as that bug impacting me; nor do I clearly recall it.. [08:24] I wasn't able to ever avoid seeing that warning, in all my 22.04 BIOS/MBR installations [08:26] The message looks familiar to me alkisg for sure, but I have no clear recollection of encountering it (except maybe a day or two which was then resolved but a like issue maybe as i wasn't tagged as 'impacts me to' for that) [08:27] 👍️ [08:27] issue may be related to firmware on boxes; I'm just lucky maybe? [08:27] I even reproduced it in VMs, I've never found any way not to see it [08:28] I'll zsync a ubuntu-mate ISO when I can & re-try alkisg (xubuntu too possibly) [08:28] alkisg guiverc Interesting, is there a way to check the installation process, any logs? [08:28] jammy ^ [08:28] * guiverc clarifies yet again jammy daily [08:28] Thank you guiverc ; goulashsoup sure there are logs somewhere under /var/log, maybe in some ubiquity folder [08:29] guiverc: I only tested with all alpha/beta/final 22.04 images; not the daily ones after the release; I'll test once more when 22.04.1 is out [08:29] like is it safe to give a rendom person access to my PPA ? [08:30] smallville7123, anyone can download from a PPA; you want to restrict upload privileges of course ! [08:30] smallville7123: installing .deb packages is equivalent to giving root access to your PC. People should be able to trust your PPA in order to use it; they can't trust "random people". [08:31] as far as distribution, you would just want to make sure you aren't somehow leaking information you didn't mean to be leaking [08:31] * guiverc currently is using 220220713 jammy ISO; Lubuntu & calamares currently... usually dailies for me esp. given a release is coming up (4-Aug-2022) [08:31] like, how would one go about uploading a package to my PPA without being given access to modify the PPA itself [08:32] (eg they could wipe everything in the PPA itself or change the account for the PPA or whatever [08:32] smallville7123, https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA maybe helpful [08:33] smallville7123: what's the difference of "deleting everything" from "uploading empty packages over everything, thus indirectly deleting everything"? [08:34] I don't think it's practical to impose such limits. You should trust your uploaders. [08:36] (or create another system for them to submit the packages, and then automate the upload-to-ppa procedure) [08:36] alkisg: to me, it would be equivilant to giving an uploader full access to a package repository just to allow then to upload a package to it [08:36] which is BAD [08:37] Yes, a repository is pretty much a collection of packages, so it they have upload access, they have full access [08:38] yea [08:38] (Technically you can also restrict who can download if you run your own.) [08:38] Unit193: but the main issue is safely submitting packages to it [08:39] Gist of it "That's not how PPAs work" [08:43] You can accept packages with any method, ftp, emails, whatever, run your own scripts to verify their integrity, and then run your automated "upload-to-my-ppa" script; you don't have to use the launchpad web UI for access [08:45] my Ubuntu desktop was installed (from Desktop ISO `ubuntu-20.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso`) with `ubiquity 20.04.15.19`, i would like to look at the source code: In general where do i find the sources or even the repository? [08:48] https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity => browse the code, view git history etc [08:48] And publishing history at: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+publishinghistory [08:51] I am trying to automate a 22.04 Desktop Installation, is preseeding the correct way to do so or is cloudinit the way to go also for Desktops? [08:51] alkisg Does `ubiquity 20.04.15.19` itself include the desktop installer, or is ubiquity a dependency OF the desktop installer? [08:53] goulashsoup, ubiquity is the desktop installer used with focal/20.04.. You can install source on your box using `apt source ubiquity` too (it'll grab all source used for the package) ; do note your need SRC enabled to get source; default is binaries only are enabled [08:56] apt source won't give him the "iso version" though, but the latest one; it might or might not be the same [08:57] true; latest for the release you're using; which would be what you'll see if using 20.04.5 which is the next focal release, may not be 20.04.2 ISO version [08:58] how do i fix this? [08:58] $ pacman repo-add [08:58] X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist) [08:58] Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) [08:59] smallville7123_, what OS are you using? pacman is not a Ubuntu command [09:00] * guiverc adds the `pacman` is described as "pacman - Chase Monsters in a Labyrinth" [09:02] Ubuntu [09:03] i tried `sudo apt install xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi` but i still get the error [09:09] For a 22.04 Desktop Installation, is preseeding the correct way to go or did cloudinit fully replace preseeding and is also available for desktops? A pointer to some documentation would be awesome, I cant seem to find a lot about this topic. (Or should i just go with an oldschool disk image becaus autoinstall is broken?) [09:24] I've got a question about installing a wine app (https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=33276 ), the #wine seems empty, did they move? [09:36] how do i fix this? [09:36] Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running? [09:36] as i also get this [09:36] invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/docker not found. [09:38] smallville, did you try to run docker related commands without having docker installed? [09:38] i did $ sudo apt install docker && docker pull archlinux [09:38] docker.io * [09:40] you probably have to run the docker command as root to be able to connect to its daemon [09:41] i tried that but i still get the error [09:41] also E: Unable to locate package docker-desktop [09:41] for https://docs.docker.com/desktop/install/ubuntu/ [09:42] that means there is no such package installed [09:42] when you follow the docker documentation you usually add another package source for docker, at that point you are not installing the docker version published by ubuntu but the upstream one [09:43] ok [09:43] there is #docker too on libera [09:46] jeronimo: try #winehq [09:55] Maik: thanks! [10:20] I'm out of space with snaps, how can I move the snap space ? [10:41] strk: snap space? [10:41] or do you mean swap [12:23] hi there [12:24] my laptop battery drains while asleep, can somebody help, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1418663/kubuntu-22-04-looses-all-battery-power-over-night-even-while-in-sleep [12:26] silv3r_m00n2: Plug it in? [12:27] wez: it looses around 100% power while sleeping in one night, around 8 hours, that is not right [12:27] How old is your laptop? [12:27] Actualy, how old is the battery pacl? [12:28] Batteries have a warranty of about 6 months usually [12:28] wez this is around 1 year old laptop, and battery is going good, i am using the laptop on battery today and the backup is turning out to be around 7+ hours for my work pattern [12:29] this does not happen on windows 10 the other os on this laptop [12:38] silv3r_m00n2: your theory about the keyboard drawing this power should be easy to test - just retry without the keyboard connected and compare results. [12:39] silv3r_m00n2: i agree that this sound, based on the information you provide, like a regression in Kubuntu 22.04 LTS compared to what you were running previously - probably Kubuntu 20.04 LTS? [12:41] apart from that, when it comes to issues which can also be related to that, i generally recommend making sure you have a recent bios [12:44] silv3r_m00n2: you can also configure your laptop to enter suspend when it has not been used for a certain while (which is configurable), maybe this would be a better option. [12:46] silv3r_m00n2: That's not a particularly unusual battery lifespan for a laptop, depending on what's running. [12:48] not your hardware, but the guide is rather generic https://luisartola.com/solving-the-framework-laptop-battery-drain/ [12:54] tomreyn: so now we can have swap in a file ? sudo swapon /swapfile ? [12:54] no need to separate partition / [12:54] ? [12:56] silv3r_m00n2: yes, it's by default that way now [12:58] since 18.04, i think [12:58] maybe 16.04 [12:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Other_base_system_changes_since_16.04_LTS [13:29] Hi all [13:35] When I used a Mac, I used encrypted DMGs as a folder for personal docs. Is there an equivalent that is as easy? [13:36] Help, I just updated my ubuntu 22.04 server and now I can't get ssh working. where do I find the logs? [13:36] in /var/logs [13:36] (log singular) [13:36] ^ thanks [13:51] Alright, I'm still stuck. So I upgraded my Ubuntu 22.04 server (apt update and upgrade) after it was complete, I rebooted and now a few things don't work anymore [13:51] ssh server is stuck at inactive (dead) [13:51] tab complete doesn't work anymore [13:51] and on boot it spends a while looking for disks (by uuid) that i've never had attached to the system [13:51] any advice? [13:53] I'm using ubuntu server with maas. my dhcp server stopped working. any help is appriciated [13:56] jeronimo MintPrower you guys might wanna try the #ubuntu-server channel [13:57] lotuspsychje: Thanks :D [14:06] lotuspsychje: great suggestion, thanks ! === ootput4 is now known as ootput === Elon_Satoshi is now known as Elliot_Satoshi [15:02] hi all [15:03] wb deadrom [15:03] 18.04 LTS server, ntp won't update, says "no suitable server found" for whatever I throw at ntpdate -u. internal, by IP, by name, external, no cigar. 123 is open, 53 is open [15:04] can even ping the internal NTP but won't get time from it [15:05] stopped ntpd to have the socket free, no effect either. bit clueless where to look [15:07] can you verify that the ntp server is working from another system? [15:08] ravage, yes a simple win10 pc on the same switch talks to one internal ntp fine [15:10] whenever it had a problem with ntp it was server's or firewall's fault. never the client itself [15:10] can't even talk to the ubuntu ntp pool [15:12] no success either after temp. disabling ufw [15:12] how can I test if any traffic is being routed to ntp:123 at all? [15:14] sudo ntpdate -qv 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org [15:15] if you want to see the actual packages you can use ngrep for example [15:16] https://pastebin.com/TbrbJkHX [15:18] sudo ntpdate -B 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org [15:20] but this may actually be a firewall problem [15:21] sounds like it [15:23] I bought a bluetooth dongle, but I can't enable bluetooth on ubuntu [15:25] henistein, is your dongle compatible with Ubuntu? did you check that before you bought it? [15:25] well that is a good point [15:26] lsusb|nc termbin.com 9999 [15:27] it will output a url. paste that here [15:30] https://termbin.com/hl88 [15:32] which version of Ubuntu do you use? [15:32] Ubuntu 22.04 LTS [15:33] that dongle seems to be problematic as there are a lot of fakes out there [15:33] under which model name did you buy it? [15:34] and are you using blueman or not henistein [15:34] ... https://askubuntu.com/a/1222944 [15:36] if you can return that dongle do it and get something else [15:37] bug #1892814 also related [15:37] Bug 1892814 in linux (Ubuntu) "[0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio] Bluetooth has multiple connectivity issues" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892814 [15:38] ravage I don't know [15:38] what do people do on irc??? just talk? [15:39] this is the ubuntu support channel wantom [15:39] !chat | wantom [15:39] wantom: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [15:39] cool [15:39] lotuspsychje yes I am but I got this: https://termbin.com/21ti [15:40] i usually write. talking to my microphone did not work well here really [15:40] Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570R CPU @ 2.70GHz (2.93GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (5.4 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 70.1 GB / 960.3 GB (890.2 GB Free) • VGA: 8086:0d22 @ Intel Corporation Crystal Well DRAM Controller • Uptime: 2h 14m 52s [15:40] wantom, please dont test your client here. use #test [15:43] henistein: looks like a flaky chipset indeed as stated above [15:43] hi [15:43] alright [15:44] henistein: just for the feedback of that dongle, could you pastebin the output after journalctl -f plug out and plug back in your dongle? [15:45] was there a naming convention followed for the commands of ubuntu? [15:51] henistein: another idea would be testing out on higher kernel, im reading 5.17 got it working for some users [15:51] Settings, Bluetooth says "off, turn on..." The menu with wifi and bt says "Off, Turn off, BT settings" .... how do I turn it on? [15:53] brick: There are several. [15:53] brick: Some are old Unix conventions - typically very short commands like ls and rm. [15:53] brick: Most of them are just the name of the program or utility that executes. [15:54] brick: Was there a particular command or set of commands you were curious about? [15:55] yes jhutchins i want to know about move to mc, copy to cp [15:55] *mv [16:00] brick, these commands have always been called like this in unix style systems ... "move" or "copy" are DOS inventions (which is way younger than UNIX) [16:02] ok ogra [16:03] hola [16:03] !es | ordenadordelacas [16:03] ordenadordelacas: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [16:07] Maik: I mean space on the partition where "snap" puts things [16:18] hello, can anyone help me figure out why my file manager is showing hidden files? Ctrl-H doesn't toggle anything. The show hidden files checkbox is unchecked. I've tried to reinstall nautilus. I have installed nemo and the same there. I'm on 2204. [16:19] brick: The two-letter commands came from an era when there was a practical limit to the number of characters that could be entered. Think 80 column punch cards. [16:20] n paper. [16:20] brick: Pre video terminal, when even interactive sessions printed the system responses on paper [16:21] brick: There was a somewhat humorous convention that removed all vowels from words to save characters. [16:21] don't forget they were using 110 baud teletypes, so every character took 100ms to type or print... [16:21] 56/58 baud. [16:21] IBM Selectric terminals. [16:22] don't think anybody used those for UNIX... [16:24] jasparq, weird issue, what desktop is this? [16:25] oerheks gnome [16:26] jasparq: what does this say? echo "$(dconf read /org/gtk/settings/file-chooser/show-hidden) | $(dconf read /org/gtk/settings/show-hidden) | $(gsettings get org.gnome.nautilus.preferences show-hidden-files)" [16:27] jasparq: make that: echo "$(dconf read /org/gtk/settings/file-chooser/show-hidden) | $(dconf read /org/gtk/settings/show-hidden) | $(gsettings get org.gnome.nautilus.preferences show-hidden-files) | $(gsettings get org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser show-hidden)" [16:33] tomreyn returns false | | true | false [16:34] jasparq: so change this preference: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences show-hidden-files false [16:35] org.gtk.settings is the good setting, org.gnome is old? [16:35] i really wouldn't know [16:36] also it's possible that jasparq is running old gnome [16:36] from an old post, 2016 The key from org > gnome > nautilus > preferences : show-hidden-files is ignored as it is deprecated. https://askubuntu.com/questions/258642/hidden-files-always-being-shown [16:38] but you covered them both, so it is weird toggle ctrl h does nothing [16:40] how can i go back to windown after booting ubuntu from a usb [16:40] tomreyn changing preference didn't work. also im running gnome 42.2 [16:40] pls answer quick [16:40] !patience | yasser [16:40] yasser: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [16:40] answer quick ... boot again without usb? [16:41] or insert windows usb? [16:41] jasparq: that's all i could think of, i'm afraid [16:41]