[00:00] <Dan39> and then the rescue initramfs: https://wiki.debian.org/RescueInitramfs
[00:01] <Dan39> which is very useful, i've used initramfs to copy my entire root fs onto another HDD without needing any bootable media
[00:01] <Dan39> now i'm just talking to myself i guess hahaha
[00:45] <jhutchins> Not sure this was the question, but normally there's an initrd for each installed kernel.
[00:45] <jhutchins> (Multiple initrds are possible but not relevant here.)
[01:05] <alkisg> Dan39: by default the initramfs in ubuntu contains all modules, it's the equivalent of fedora's rescue initramfs
[01:12] <wuzamarine> arraybolt3[m]: I tried -u. I wasn't sure what else to try. Nothing.
[02:04] <Dan39> alkisg: i see, well that answers that :P
[02:18] <clarkk> I uninstalled all the 5.13.0-48 kernel packages, and it removed them, but it installed linux-image-unsigned-5.13.0-48-generic. Why would it do that?
[02:24] <clarkk> rebooting. bbs
[02:28] <jhutchins> Clearly something depends on 5.13.0-48
[03:50] <anonymous> greetings
[05:32] <clarkk> For anyone who struggles with the latest kernel, 5.15.0-41, that gets installed automatically, breaking vmware workstation, here's a response from VMware. To summarise, they are aware, and they're going to release a fix in the next week or so.  https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/VMware-engineers-and-documentation-authors/m-p/2918793
[05:33] <clarkk> There is a 3rd party unsupported (use at your own risk) patch, but the way I've dealt with this is marked kernel 5.13.0-52 on hold, and am going to stick with that until there's a stable vmware release
[06:34] <guiverc> thanks for notification clarkk
[06:42] <plugger> hi all im having trouble installing a ".deb fil" have tried double clicking, right clicking and choosing "package installer" and have changed permissions to allow to run as program/chmod =x none are causing the software centre to show up and expectected splash screens to  install are abcent:nothing happens
[06:42] <plugger> any ideas
[06:43] <plugger> was going to download gdebi/use will check if its here now
[06:44] <plugger> typo chmod +x
[06:46] <plugger> sorted it worked with gdebi (if anyone is having probs installing .deb files on Ubuntu 22.04 like i was) Gdebi solved it
[06:58] <ppw> hey. anyone use iphones here? is there a simple way to transfer music to an iphone from ubuntu/linux?
[07:11] <enyc> ppw: hrrm... there is a protocol and many clients iirc uerr
[07:12] <enyc> ppw: not tried it myself yet,   there are tools like ifuse  and programs like  clementine, at least
[07:13] <enyc> ppw: friends with iphone I will try this with, good point you reminded me about =)
[07:13] <enyc> ppw: they still have a   win7-32 virtualbox itunes for the purpose
[07:14] <ppw> licensed and activated, no doubt.
[07:14] <enyc> ppw: the win7-32 yes using netbook's own license  and netbook native install changed to linux ;o
[07:15] <enyc> but it definitely seemed there are  now-working iphone-interface  programs
[07:15] <enyc> when I looked into it...
[07:16] <ppw> I think Apple breaks compatibility after a while.
[07:17] <enyc> ppw: has happened, but I got the impression whatever this speaks to has been stable
[07:17] <enyc> ppw: bearing in mind older itunes on win7 32bit still works with even much newer iphone api
[07:17] <enyc> so hope is there foss linux tool implementing the same, still works similarly.
[07:19] <Wh0> sqlite> .shell cd
[07:19] <Wh0> C:\WINDOWS\system32
[07:19] <Wh0> how to change working direcotry? so that i dont need to copy & paste path everytime to access databases?
[07:19] <enyc> clarkk: GRUB_DEFAULT can be 0 or 2 etc  to select first or 3rd entry and so-on
[07:20] <enyc> clarkk: -or- you can refer to entries by name  if you want stable reference to a particular old kernel always booted for some reason
[07:20] <enyc> clarkk: not sure if it can do partial matches
[07:32] <BlackMage> exist no libgtk2-perl package in ubuntu 22.04 ?
[07:33] <guiverc> Wh0, you don't appear to be using Ubuntu  (C:\WINDOWS isn't a Ubuntu $PS1)
[07:34] <Drew_Neilson> Please remind me, what is the channel for chat about Ubuntu that isn't asking for tech support?
[07:34] <guiverc> #ubuntu-discuss or @ubuntu-offtopic maybe what you're after Drew_Neilson
[07:34] <guiverc> s/@/# ^
[07:34] <Drew_Neilson> thx
[07:35] <guite> I’m trying to import an ovpn file into my ubuntu’s openvpn client that came out of a pivpn… I don’t know what’s going on but the client says “connected to the vpn” but once I try to reach a destination like 192.168.1.xxx at home through vpn, destination is unreachable… Would there, by any chance, be someone here who could help :)
[07:35] <guite> (and hello :) )
[07:38] <BlackMage> i need gtk2 lib for perl 5.34
[07:40] <guiverc> GTK2 is deprecated; GTK4 is development & GTK3 is in maintenance mode..
[07:41] <guiverc> (anything coded that used GTK2 should have been ported to GTK3 long ago)
[07:43] <guiverc> (the parts of GTK2 still used by GIMP are all that's still somewhat supported; GNU/FSF still working on the that)
[07:47] <toddc> guite: I have had that happen often due to plocked port by ISP  works at home but teatherd on my phone connects but no traffic
[07:48] <toddc> blocked
[07:49] <toddc> guite: I was able to get the isp to move to a different firewall that allowed it
[07:56] <BlackMage> what is with tinyca?
[08:00] <Unit193> Have you looked into xca?
[08:01] <Unit193> !info xca
[08:02] <BlackMage> ohh, i have found kse (a java gui) but xca sounds even better
[08:03] <BlackMage> hmpf xca is bad
[08:04] <BlackMage> that can work only with a database
[08:04] <BlackMage> kse is better
[08:04] <guite> toddc: so this could be a firewall issue ?
[08:07] <toddc> guite: yes mine was I did a traceroute with port
[08:08] <toddc> guite: then verified by using a differnt isp
[08:18] <nshire> is  jammy still considered a development release?
[08:18] <nshire> thought it would be fully released by now
[08:19] <guite> toddc: did a device was allowed but not another one on the same networ ?
[08:19] <Unit193> It was released a couple months ago.
[08:19] <Unit193> !fammy
[08:19] <Unit193> !jammy
[08:19] <guite> toddc: my windows is connecting fine but not my ubunut, it’s just a question of OS… I don’t get it :(
[08:19] <nshire> do-release-upgrade dumped me off at 20.04
[08:20] <Unit193> !ltsupgrade
[08:20] <nshire> yeah I thought it would be fully released as a non dev version already
[08:21] <Unit193> It is, LTS users just aren't offered until the first point release.  It's still far from "devel", that's kenetic.
[08:23] <nshire> ah I see
[08:24] <nshire> so like once 22.04.1 is released it will be pushed to lts users?
[08:24] <nshire> aug 04 in particular
[08:25] <nshire> I've gone 20.04 > 21.xx > 22.04 on the same night on too many machines to still be making this mistake
[08:27] <Unit193> I already jumped two servers to Jammy, myself. :P
[08:27] <nshire> I should have used do-release-upgrade -d to start out with
[08:28] <Unit193> Eh...  Also leave the config file set to lts, don't adapt it to 'normal'
[08:28] <nshire> machine I'm working on currently is just a test vm
[08:29] <nshire> should have just wiped it from scratch
[08:29] <nshire> started with a disk image from 2019 for some reason
[08:29] <nshire> I have 500/500 mbit so download wouldn't have been an issue
[08:31] <Unit193> Eh, my server was installed with '12.04.3 LTS "Precise Pangolin"', it's now on Debian bullseye.  I never re-installed because it's too much effort and I'm lazy.  Anywho, the LTS upgrade should be offered soon, not right after .1 is released because they'll want to ensure the upgrade path has a few bumps as possible.
[08:36] <gordonjcp> Unit193: yeah, it's probably time to reinstall that ;-)
[08:37] <Unit193> Not really, no.  I keep it clean.
[08:45] <gordonjcp> Unit193: you have no way of knowing
[08:46] <grumbly> hello
[08:46] <Unit193> gordonjcp: "No way" is not accurate actually, you certainly have hints.  You can check if any files are marked as obsolete by dpkg, you can use debsums/dpkg --audit (or is that --verify), dpkg -S on the system and check for odd unowned files, etc.
[08:47] <grumbly> 'I am struggling to install mycroft-core.  i am trying to run the script from the git but it fails when it attempts to install pulseaudio because it says pulseaudio:i386 is installed
[08:48] <grumbly> how do I disable the i386 arch, remove that and install the correct pulseaudio?
[08:49] <grumbly> i am at my wits end, because I cant even verify that pulseaudio:i386 is even installed
[08:50] <gordonjcp> grumbly: what does dpkg -l pulseaudio* say?
[08:50] <Unit193> Well, you could `dpkg --remove-architecture` but you'll want to ensure you have nothing from there installed first,  dpkg -l |grep :i386  should help.
[08:50] <gordonjcp> Unit193: sure, but why go to all that effort when you can just reinstall?
[08:51] <Unit193> gordonjcp: Re-installs are effort?  Eh, it works, why fix it when it's not broken?
[08:52] <grumbly> i have more than just pulseaudio
[08:53] <gordonjcp> Unit193: well, upgrading from an EOL distro is a pain in the backside
[08:53] <Unit193> I've...never done that, so I guess I'll just have to trust you on that.
[08:54] <grumbly> and in fact pulse audio isnt even in the list
[08:54] <Unit193> Ah, I did that once years ago with fluxbuntu in VM as an experiment.
[09:01] <gordonjcp> Unit193: what's running on your server anyway?
[09:02] <Unit193> gordonjcp: Various things really, httpd of course, postfix (outgoing only), some IRC things, DNS related stuff, etc.
[09:03] <Primal> Howdy
[09:04] <Unit193> Hello.
[09:07] <gordonjcp> Unit193: docker and good backups :-)
[09:07] <Primal> we have plenty of good options for text/paste, but do we have any good options for image hosting?
[09:07] <Primal> something that's not imgur :D
[09:08] <Unit193> gordonjcp: Sure that's one way to go.
[09:16] <grumbly> so nothing?
[09:16] <gordonjcp> grumbly: have you tried removing the package?
[10:42] <Drew_Neilson> How do I format a hard drive from the terminal? I'm not trying to split it into partitions. I'm watching a video on this but I've hit an obstacle.
[10:42] <Drew_Neilson> the video says to do:
[10:42] <Drew_Neilson> sudo gdisk /dev/sde
[10:43] <Drew_Neilson> and I get "problem opening /dev/sde for reading! Error is 2. The specified file does not exist!"
[10:43] <EriC^^> Drew_Neilson: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' paste the link it gives you here
[10:43] <EriC^^> ( to upload a paste of parted's output)
[10:46] <Drew_Neilson> https://termbin.com/4hqx
[10:46] <EriC^> thanks
[10:46] <EriC^> you're trying to format the 1000gb hdd?
[10:47] <EriC^> right now it shows only 2 hdd's, 1 250gb which has ubuntu and a 1000gb that has windows
[10:49] <Drew_Neilson> yes, the 1 TB drive
[10:49] <EriC^> Drew_Neilson: type 'sudo cgdisk /dev/sdb'
[10:50] <EriC^> you can delete/add partitions there (the partition table will stay gpt) and finally write the table, after that you'll want to run 'sudo partprobe /dev/sdb' so the kernel reloads the new table
[10:50] <clarkk> Does anyone here use pipewire instead of pulseaudio, and what is your experience/opinion of it?
[10:50] <EriC^> Drew_Neilson: also make sure nothing is mounted of that disk right now, "mount | grep sdb" should give an idea of what's mounted right now
[10:52] <moha> I installed Nextcloud by choosing it during Ubuntu22.04 installation. Then it needs a tool named `coturn` to work properly for videochatting. But coturn is not available in 22.04 repositories!
[10:52] <moha> How can I have it on 22.04?
[10:53] <Guest53> hey all!:)  Is there an ARM image for ubuntu desktop for download? I could only notice ARM for servers on ubuntu.com
[10:58] <Drew_Neilson> I didn't do that mount check that you described... I just deleted all partitions and created a new one. Now I have to enter a name for the new partition. Any tips for partition names?
[10:59] <EriC^> Drew_Neilson: i guess simple and clear? personally i never use them
[11:07] <jeronimo> I'm trying to install ubuntu 22.04 at my old HP G7
[11:07] <jeronimo> got a grub error now it hangs at a loading screen
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> jeronimo: can you take a scrrnshot of that to share to the volunteers?
[11:08] <respawn> jeronimo: did you turn off secure boot
[11:09] <jeronimo> respawn: I'll search for that setting
[11:09] <jeronimo> thx
[11:10] <respawn> that is in uefi bios
[11:10] <jeronimo> lotuspsychje: of the error? it disapeard in a second I'll try
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> try what respawn suggested first
[11:10] <jeronimo> It's a HP proliant rack server
[11:12] <jeronimo> not sure it even has secure boot
[11:12] <respawn> jeronimo: https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=emr_na-c02215285
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> jeronimo: are you installing -desktop or -server?
[11:13] <jeronimo> server
[11:14] <jeronimo> it doesn't have secure boot
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> jeronimo: try pressing F1 to switch to textboot, see if you can collect more errors
[11:14] <jeronimo> maybe I'll better try an older version of ubuntu then
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> you might wanna join #ubuntu-server aswell where the experts are
[11:15] <jeronimo> ok takes 3 min on each try
[11:15] <Drew_Neilson> In the terminal, now that I've used cgdisk to delete all partitions from the secondary drive and have created one partition from that free space, how do I format that partition?
[11:15] <jeronimo> lotuspsychje: thanks
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | Drew_Neilson
[11:17] <EriC^^_> Drew which filesystem do you want to use?
[11:21] <Drew_Neilson> Sorry for the delay. I want to use whatever the default filesystem is.
[11:21] <Drew_Neilson> Whatever Ubuntu's out-of-box filesystem is.
[11:21] <luna__> ext4
[11:23] <Drew_Neilson> I think that I need to grab a cup of coffee before I continue
[11:24] <EriC^^> Drew_Neilson: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1
[11:26] <jeronimo> lotuspsychje: I didn't see an error
[11:27] <jeronimo> I'll try grub in debug mode
[11:27] <ph88> i would like to upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 what should i do when the installer offers a partial upgrade ?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> jeronimo: what does that grub error say exactly?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | ph88
[11:28] <jeronimo> lotuspsychje: I didn't see any error
[11:28] <ph88> lotuspsychje, what are you saying ? LTS is not available yet ?
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> ph88: 22.04 is available, but if you want it to be the LTS way it would be wise to await 22.04.1 in august
[11:29] <ph88> ok
[11:29] <clarkk> Does anyone here use pipewire instead of pulseaudio, and what is your experience/opinion of it?
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> ph88: if you still want to upgrade early, use the -d flag as described above
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | clarkk
[11:31] <jeronimo> clarkk: it's the default of 22.10 AFAIK. So should be prommesing?
[11:31] <clarkk> lotuspsychje, I'm trying to solve a problem with bluetooth / audio that I've been struggling with for days. This is definitely a support issue
[11:31] <clarkk> jeronimo, excellent. Didn't know that. Thank you
[11:32] <jeronimo> clarkk: you're very welcome
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> clarkk: then you should ask your specific support question in the channel instead of a poll of experiences
[11:34] <ph88> thanks lotuspsychje
[11:42] <jeronimo> lotuspsychje: GRUB error: can't find command 'grub platform'.
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[12:59] <fn31ln3> TheRedQueen, casted quited on nshire. It was not effective
[12:59] <fn31ln3> *quiet
[12:59] <fn31ln3> failed the joke
[13:06] <Dan39> cat on keyboard? :P
[13:07] <wez> fn31ln3: I got it, it was good
[13:07] <fn31ln3> thank you wez
[13:08] <fn31ln3> at least someone appreciates me
[13:10] <wez> :)
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:14] <whiskey76> hello :)
[13:14] <dobbicorp> hi
[13:15] <respawn> if you need help with ubuntu issue ask here
[13:15] <respawn> for general chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:15] <dobbicorp> no welcoming is allowed!
[13:16] <dobbicorp> ;)
[13:17] <Drew_Neilson> does Ubuntu have media libraries? Along Windows' pictures library, videos library, music library, and documents library.
[13:17] <Drew_Neilson> *Along the lines of
[13:17] <Drew_Neilson> Or libraries in general.
[13:18] <cbreak> Drew_Neilson: it has a desktop wallpaper library
[13:18] <cbreak> but if you want videos, music, ... you might want to consider online sources, like youtube or what ever.
[13:18] <cbreak> ubuntu's an OS, not a music store
[13:19] <Drew_Neilson> Reason I'm asking: I'm going to move a whole lot of audio and video files from my Windows PC over to my Ubuntu Server and I want to make sure that I organize those files properly.
[13:19] <cbreak> ah, you already have the files
[13:19] <Drew_Neilson> That's why I'm asking if Ubuntu has something akin to libraries
[13:20] <cbreak> there are probably hundreds of solutions... For photos, for example there's DarkTable
[13:21] <Drew_Neilson> To be clear, I'm talking about libraries that come with the OS, not something that has to be downloaded separately.
[13:21] <Drew_Neilson> Like how with Windows, the Music library is simply there. You don't have to install it separately
[13:22] <cbreak> for audio / video files, you can use something like VideoLanClient on a client, or something like plex or kodi on a server
[13:22] <cbreak> Drew_Neilson: ah. Ubuntu has directories
[13:22] <cbreak> personally, I organize all media in the file system
[13:22] <cbreak> with directories, on different zfs pools
[13:23] <cbreak> (Because I have all the data local and don't need a server)
[13:23] <Drew_Neilson> I've actually installed Emby server on my Ubuntu Server. I just want to make sure that when I move the files, I move them to the proper places. I don't yet know whether Emby has a function for moving the files.
[13:24] <cbreak> ubuntu has no mandatory location for media files
[13:24] <cbreak> if I remember correctly, emby was configurable in where it searches for them
[13:42] <ZeroDamage> Is there a workable way to update a 20.10 instance of Ubuntu to 22.04?  The repositories are dead at this point.  Would rather not blow it away if i can help it.
[13:43] <leftyfb> !eolupgrade | ZeroDamage
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> ZeroDamage: risky to upgrade from eol releases due security reasons aswell, see !usn
[13:44] <whiskey76> Ubuntu Mate 22.04, no matter what I set power management to my screen turns off every 10-15 minutes. Is there another setting for this? ty
[13:45] <whiskey76> I should clarify, every 10-15 minutes of inactivity.
[13:50] <guiverc> ZeroDamage, if it's a desktop system, I'd likely 'upgrade via re-install'; 20.10 had one upgrade path - to 21.04; if you re-use existing partitions & don't format; it'll note your manually installed packages; erase system directories; install; then install the noted packages if available in Ubuntu repositories for the new release..
[13:50] <guiverc> note:  if server apps are used (which often store conf etc files in system directories); you'll need to restore data; why I mentioned desktop system
[13:56] <guiverc> whiskey76, check you don't have a screensaver blanking the screen after the time interval it blanks at (ie. not just power management)
[13:57] <guiverc> (ie. mate-screensaver)
[13:57] <whiskey76> guiverc: thanks, i checked Screensaver and it's set to regard the pc as idle after 2 hours.
[14:38] <goddard> so when launching plasma with GDM it doesn't start ssh-agent for some reason
[14:39] <goddard> I can manually start ssh-agent, but it would be nice if it was done on login
[14:39] <goddard> and ssh-agent being launched from 1 terminal isn't exactly great as even things like dolphin can't access it
[14:40] <goddard> any ideas?
[14:43] <goddard> its so funny because everything works perfectly when launching plasma with GDM, but SDDM launching plasma scaling is off.  Also SDDMs defaults are multiple monitors isn't great.
[14:44] <goddard> i can probably just run this, but it would be cool to know the real way it is supposed to be done
[14:44] <goddard> SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/bin/ksshaskpass ssh-add </dev/null
[14:47] <tomreyn> fwiw, on an unmodified ubuntu 22.04 installation, while logged into gnome-shell, you have no *ssh* processes running
[14:48] <Drew_Neilson> I sort of understand that my personal directory on my Ubuntu Server would be at
[14:48] <Drew_Neilson> -   /home/Drew
[14:50] <Drew_Neilson> but, since I want to put my media files (music, videos, etc.) on a separate drive--one that isn't the boot drive--but in folders that are accessible only by me--then how would that work, where the partition's name is     media    ?
[14:50] <Drew_Neilson> - /home/Drew/dev/media?
[14:50] <Drew_Neilson> or for music, /home/Drew/dev/media/music ?
[14:50] <ogra> Drew_Neilson, /media/Drew/<devicename>
[14:51] <ogra> (where <devicename> is the label)
[14:51] <Drew_Neilson> wait... /media (the first part) is the partition?
[14:51] <ogra> no, the location where things get automounted
[14:52] <Drew_Neilson> (a very loud confused crickets sound should play)
[14:52] <tomreyn> that's just a fixed name which happens to be the same you used
[14:52] <ogra> the last part (<devicename>) is the partition ... usually the label
[14:53] <Drew_Neilson> so then it'd be
[14:53] <Drew_Neilson> - /media/Drew/media ?
[14:53] <tomreyn> possibly so, an    ls /media/Drew    should tell (while it's mounted)
[14:54] <tomreyn> you could also use the graphical file browser to go there
[14:54] <Drew_Neilson> It's Ubuntu Server, so no GUI
[14:54] <ogra> if your device partition is labeled "media" it would be /media/Drew/media, yeah
[14:54] <ogra> oh
[14:54] <ogra> well, then also no automount ...
[14:55] <ogra> automount is a desktop feature
[14:55] <Drew_Neilson> Okay I should provide context
[14:55] <ogra> (i think at least)
[14:55] <Drew_Neilson> I have a 2017 Surface Pro, my daily driver that runs Windows 10. I've installed WSL. Next,...
[14:56] <ogra> oh, thats completely different then ... you should ask in #windows-wsl ...
[14:56] <Drew_Neilson> I have an old desktop PC that I've installed a small (250 GB) SSD in and a 1 TB HDD in. I installed Ubuntu Server on the SSD.
[14:56] <ogra> kay
[14:56] <Drew_Neilson> I just formatted the HDD using this chat's instructions about an hour ago.
[14:57] <Drew_Neilson> Purpose of putting Ubuntu Server on this old PC: to use it as a media server, and possibly for other specialized functions. Home Assistant, maybe using it like a router, etc.
[14:58] <ogra> Drew_Neilson, https://askubuntu.com/questions/683034/how-to-automatically-mount-usb-flash-drive-at-startup ... try these instructions
[14:58] <Drew_Neilson> I put Server on it instead of plain Desktop because I wanted there to be as little overhead as possible, because as a media server, transcribing video from one format to another might already be more than it is capable of.
[14:59] <Drew_Neilson> But the consequence is that I'm diving into the deep end of the pool without learning how to swim first!
[14:59] <ogra> yeah, the answer above with the green checkmark should get you going
[14:59]  * ogra is afk now
[15:16] <Drew_Neilson> That info about mounting USB devices will probably come in useful for me later.
[15:57] <raghav> what is this channel for?
[15:58] <goddard> support questions
[15:58] <goddard> related to ubuntu supported stuff
[15:58] <raghav> ok
[15:58] <raghav> is it private network?
[15:59] <tomreyn> no. if you have question son this irc network, try to    /join #libera
[15:59] <raghav> thanks :)
[16:18] <nshire> +
[16:18] <Topa> Hello. Somebody here is continuing to misgender me after repeatedly telling them which pronouns I would like them to use. What can I do about it?
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> Topa: #ubuntu-ops for such matters
[16:19] <ravage> or use /ignore
[16:20] <Topa> @ravage why should I ignore them? I want this to be a trans safe space.
[16:20] <Topa> They're hurting my feelings.
[16:22] <MaNa2k> hi guys, so i ended up installing ubuntu due to bigger community.
[16:22] <MaNa2k> was wondering something
[16:22] <MaNa2k> so i have connected to my linux machine terminal via ssh, and was wondering, if i start a "kestral" via ssh, then the ssh connection dies for any reason, will the kestral keep running? or will that terminate as well ?
[16:23] <nino_> hi
[16:23] <luna__> hey
[16:24] <nino_> is this thing still alive?
[16:24] <luna__> yeah
[16:24] <Topa> Why doesn't anyone care about my misgendering?!
[16:24] <luna__> i missed it
[16:25] <nino_> its my first time here
[16:26] <oerheks> Topa, join #libera for that, as your issue did not happen in this channel, right?
[16:26] <oerheks> this is ubuntu technical support solely.
[16:27] <luna__> not sure its the networks fault some people on the network is idiots
[16:27] <confuseus> Topa: find a shrink to help you deal with the feelings. literally all of the internet has some people who either intentionally or unintentially misgender others. i think you should not be affected by a computer that much...unless it was physical people in which case you deal with them directly.
[16:27] <nino_> hey, after I install ubuntu, do I still need to install the graphics drivers for intel like windows???
[16:28] <luna__> confuseus: computer people is also real people
[16:28] <oerheks> nino, no, intel is supported in the kernel
[16:28] <luna__> but yeah
[16:28] <luna__> !support
[16:29] <confuseus> luna__: so you are going against all the internet's nasty people in order to deal with your feelings...
[16:29] <nino_> never used linux tho, been using this for a week and so far,its running pretty well specially for work
[16:29] <oerheks> confuseus, please, lets stay ontopic
[16:30] <oerheks> move chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[16:30] <confuseus> sure
[16:33] <nino_> im having a hard time installing java, i cant run my cisco asdm via website
[16:33] <oerheks> !info openjdk
[16:33] <nino_> I already installed jave using the terminal
[16:33] <nino_> enlighten me my good sire
[16:34] <oerheks> !info openjdk11
[16:34] <nino_> so wahat should I do next
[16:34] <oerheks> oh with an -
[16:34] <oerheks> !info openjdk-11
[16:34] <oerheks> i am sure there is..
[16:35] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-jre#1-overview
[16:37] <nino_> oerheks, already followed the instructions, still when opening the firewall via its gateway, it still notify that java needs to be install so I can proceed
[16:39] <oerheks> nino_, no idea about that, i found some older tutorial, maybe that is a help; especially the firefox-esr thingy
[16:39] <oerheks> https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/177846-cisco-asdm-working-in-linux-ubuntu-21-04
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> i got a user on bug #1981901 with an apport-collect error regarding ssl/login anyone seen that before?
[16:41] <nino_> thanks, I'll try this
[16:44] <nino_> i did not expect that ubuntu has a group chat feature. its quite surprising lol
[16:45] <nino_> any advices or tips for new linux users?
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> nino_: this channel is the support channel, volunteers gather forces to help users
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | nino_
[16:48] <nino_> how do I join the off topic gen chat?
[16:48] <luna__>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:48] <luna__> without space
[16:48] <respawn> #ubuntu-offtopic right click connect
[16:48] <luna__> or clicking on it
[16:49] <nino_> thanks.
[16:50] <luna__> np
[17:00] <Drew_Neilson> I just modified fstab using nano. How do I save it?
[17:00] <luna__> ctrl + x
[17:00] <Drew_Neilson> I don't see "save" listed as an option at the bottom
[17:00] <luna__> but you need to be root
[17:02] <Guest2995> do we "express updates" similar to windows? if so, how should i configure?
[17:03] <oerheks> unattended updates are enabled by default, see your update settings
[17:03] <oerheks> and it is good practice to run updates daily.
[17:05] <Guest2995> oerheks i am on limited data plan, this is most important
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[17:06] <Guest2995> if it downloads full package, i would not install on my device
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[17:06] <oerheks> well, there is no answer to that.
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:07] <oerheks> set updates to never, and run updates on free wifi?
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[17:12] <respawn> that spammer again
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> !ops | nshire repeated flooding
[17:12] <Maik> nshire: please stop with that
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[17:14] <Kow> if your client supports it: /ignore is helpful
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[17:14] <respawn> ban him
[17:14] <Kow> ignore him
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[17:15] <Kow> ^^^ automation ftw
[17:15] <Maik> finally
[17:31] <goddard> well i fixed the issue
[17:32] <goddard> gdm config files really should add an entry for plasma if it gets installed
[17:32] <goddard> can i submit a patch for that some how?
[17:50] <cbreak> you're not using sddm for plasma?
[17:51] <cbreak> well, either way, after installing the plasma desktop, it should show up in any of the display managers
[18:13] <nshire> sorry about earlier
[18:29] <jhutchins> nshire: What did you do?
[18:30] <goddard> cbreak: the issues isn't with it showing up
[18:30] <goddard> the issue is that unlike sddm which also tries to make sure Gnome related things are setup properly GDM doesn't care or even try in their configuration
[18:30] <goddard> this is a pretty easy fix and those config files should be added
[18:31] <goddard> that way if you use GDM or SDDM both Plasma and Gnome DEs will launch properly
[18:38] <nshire> jhutchins, cat fell asleep on the keybaord and spammed the channel https://i.imgur.com/pWAcTeM.png
[18:39] <luna__> :p
[18:39] <nshire> I just updated to 22.04 and now I'm on a busybox prompt
[18:40] <nshire> biggest thing seems to be "alert, uuid=xxxx does not exist! dropping to a shell"
[18:41] <nshire> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/499810206520442880/997935443498766407/unknown.png
[18:41] <Unit193> Odd, uuid shouldn't change unless you change disks.  You can chroot in, update /etc/fstab then update grub and your initramfs though and see if that fixes things.
[18:42] <nshire> should still be mounted to the same virtual hard disk
[18:42] <nshire> yep
[18:42] <nshire> maybe I'll power cycle it
[18:42] <Unit193> Has the host vbox seen a change recently?
[18:42] <nshire> it hasn't
[18:43] <nshire> well
[18:43] <oerheks> boot that vm in recovery mode, and fix updates again?
[18:43] <nshire> I switched it to hyper-v from KVM for the virtualization interface yesterday, but it worked fine across several 20.04 boots with that setting
[18:44] <oerheks> oh, now the important details.. why switch to hyperv?
[18:44] <nshire> I'm under the impression it's faster on a host machine that's currently running hyper v
[18:44] <nshire> it did seem to perform better
[18:45] <Unit193> Neat.
[18:48] <nshire> acpi reset brought me to the same thing
[18:48] <nshire> doubt it will do anyhting but ill switch back to kvm
[18:49] <Unit193> Yeah if you had OK boots in the meantime, it's unlikely to be related.
[18:50] <cbreak> nshire: how about commenting out the offending line?
[18:50] <cbreak> or is it important?
[18:50] <cbreak> if it is, find out what the new id is with blkid and update it
[18:51] <Unit193> (Or switch to it by name instead.)
[18:51] <cbreak> uuids are usually more erliable
[18:51] <nshire> ok switching to kvm seems to have helped, it has at least reached the promontory splash screen
[18:51]  * cbreak likes PARTUUID
[18:52] <VIA> hello everyone!
[18:52] <luna__> hey
[18:52] <whiskey76> hello
[18:52] <VIA> i need a little support regarding my "task panel" .. im running on XFCE and its all jammed into on corner ... :/
[18:53] <VIA> if this isnt the right place please link me the correct one ty!
[18:53] <Unit193> cbreak: Yeah if you have hardware that might move, sure.  If you're likely to clone it, or it's virtual, sometimes it can change.
[18:57] <nshire> switching to kvm seems to have fixed it, however it is running quite slow
[19:27] <pah> nick pa
[20:44] <VIA> Hey all iv got a question!
[20:45] <VIA> how can i create a shortcut that open the console in a specific location ?
[20:46] <VIA> or a script (bash?) for tahat matter. infact bash or something similar would be preferrable since it would allow me to also call a function or program in that specific directory ( if what i understood so far is correct)
[20:49] <bencc1> is there a reason why ubuntu stopped updating deb packages?
[20:49] <bencc1> I keep running into old packages in the repositories
[20:49] <bencc1> for example
[20:49] <bencc1> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nginx
[20:50] <oerheks> via use the --geometry option ? i think it works for gnome3 too https://www.faqforge.com/linux/tweak-default-size-position-application-window-ubuntu-unity/
[20:51] <oerheks> bencc1, we get them from Debian. ask them, i guess we only have a stable version
[20:51] <oerheks> so it is not true that we do not update versions. sometimes we are bound.
[20:53] <kostkon> !updates
[20:53] <kostkon> nope
[23:10] <Drew_Neilson> I'm connecting to Ubuntu Server remotely via PuTTY and I'm logged in, but it's not letting me copy a folder because apparently I don't have permission. (It's my server.)
[23:30] <cbreak> what user? what folder? check permissions of destination and source. also, check the error message
[23:34] <cbreak> Drew_Neilson: you can check file permissions with ls -la, for example
[23:52] <Hash> Hi
[23:52] <Hash> How do you bring interface up/down without ifconfig anymore?
[23:54] <Hash> sudo ip link set dev vmbr0 down; sudo ip link set dev vmbr0 up; <- kills connection
[23:59] <Drew_Neilson> cbreak I should clarify that I'm trying to copy--or "put"--a folder from my Windows PC to my Ubuntu Server.