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arraybolt3[m]^#GR&6fg7^gr36go*#RG*3tt89zzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZ<modulate on> OK, tachyon beam aligned, anyone here?02:20
kc2bez[m]sup?02:20
arraybolt3[m]đŸ‘‹ Just finished up a bunch of Reddit stuff. I'm doing OK, how about you?02:21
kc2bez[m]I'm all good. 02:21
* arraybolt3[m] checks for anything new in the Lubuntu sprint02:21
tsimonq2Hey Aaron!03:00
tsimonq2Sup Dan and queuebot :P03:00
tsimonq2arraybolt3 @arraybolt3:matrix.org: My PM is a book, don't feel like you have to read it all tonight :P03:01
Eickmeyer[m]<arraybolt3[m]> "^#GR&6fg7^gr36go*#RG*3tt89zzzzzz..." <- * keyboard mashing intensifies *03:05
arraybolt3[m]<Eickmeyer[m]> "* keyboard mashing intensifies *" <- LOL03:18
arraybolt3[m]Looks like something went awry in the world of LXQt updates. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/+bug/1981898 I'm guessing this is probably my fault, we probably need a Breaks/Replaces section in the libfm-qt11 Control file I would guess.06:00
ubot93Launchpad bug 1981898 in libfm-qt (Ubuntu) "package libfm-qt11 1.1.0-0ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/libfm-qt/archivers.list', which is also in package libfm-qt-common 1.1.0-0ubuntu7" [Undecided, New]06:00
arraybolt3[m]Hmm, I put libfm-qt9 as a Breaks/Replaces, maybe I had Simon call syncpackage a bit too early?06:07
arraybolt3[m]Simon Quigley (Developer): Whenever you get the time, can you syncpackage libfm-qt again? I think I must have had you do it before it was actually fully built, since the package in Ubuntu doesn't conflict with libfm-qt9, even though the new code does.06:09
* arraybolt3[m] adds "Make sure the package is actually built before asking for syncpackage" to the list of things to do in the future06:12
guivercthanks arraybolt3[m] !  (`libfm-qt-dev : Depends: libfm-qt11 (= 1.1.0-1) but 1.1.0-0ubuntu7 is installed` on discourse)06:27
guiverc:)   Thank you (tsimonq2, arraybolt3[m]), I see lxqt 1.1 on debian (experimental)11:23
guiverclikely already known, but in case..  "Lubuntu's  New Backports PPA" was covered in this week in linux (206); https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S19PhKupl4M  tsimonq2 11:32
kc2bez[m]<arraybolt3[m]> "Hmm, I put libfm-qt9 as a Breaks..." <- I don't think your package was done building for s390 13:31
kc2bez[m]<guiverc> "likely already known, but in..." <- It will be covered in the beginning of tomorrow's Linux User Space too. https://linuxuserspace.show 13:34
kc2bez[m]<kc2bez[m]> "I don't think your package was..." <- It is built for all arches now but is still in proposed. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/1.1.0-2~114:07
tsimonq2<guiverc> "thanks arraybolt3 !  (`libfm-qt..." <- 6 hours ahead of you, it's why I manually synced -2. Needs an automatic sync now too14:14
tsimonq2arraybolt3 @arraybolt3:matrix.org: That package Breaks/Replaces needs to be updated to include libfm-qt8 in there, to be dropped on the next Debian release. Fun thing for you to explore, why is it suddenly good after a release?14:49
tsimonq2(And in Ubuntu, why do we wait until the LTS?)14:50
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> Small bug Lubuntu Kinetic - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/198193820:13
ubot93Launchpad bug 1981938 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Selecting Install Lubuntu 22.10 from desktop results in error" [Undecided, New]20:13
tsimonq2I know exactly where that bug lives, should be pcmanfm-qt.20:15
tsimonq2arraybolt3: Sound familiar to you? Trusted executable? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^620:15
tsimonq2casper handles setting the flag and casper didn't change in that part of the code right? 20:16
kc2bez[m]<tsimonq2> "I know exactly where that bug..." <- Did the debian sync wipe out the patch? That is libfm-qt no? 20:44
tsimonq2One of the two, and maybe.20:44
kc2bez[m]I remember adding a patch to one of them from trusted executables.20:45
kc2bez[m]Looks like libfm-qt https://github.com/lubuntu-team/libfm-qt-packaging/blob/ubuntu/kinetic/debian/patches/fix-metadata-for-trusting-executables.patch20:56
arraybolt3[m]<tsimonq2> "arraybolt3: Sound familiar to..." <- I added that patch back into Debian, though.22:08
tewardso, tsimonq2, i *really* need the moderation password for lubuntu-devel22:09
tewardif you don't know it and wxl is unreachable, then I may have to go stab Mark to get him to assert "I own everything" power for lists.u.c and give me power22:10
tsimonq2JFDI22:10
arraybolt3[m]Simon Quigley (Developer): https://salsa.debian.org/ArrayBolt3/libfm-qt/-/tree/debian/experimental/debian/patches The patch is in there.22:11
arraybolt3[m]And the series file is set to apply it.22:11
arraybolt3[m]And it's also in the main LXQt repo in Salsa.22:12
kc2bez[m]I am not sure that is the version on the iso though 22:12
arraybolt3[m]Yeah, but I don't see where the patch could have ever gotten dropped in the first place.22:12
kc2bez[m]It was dropped and you added it back http://launchpadlibrarian.net/613311606/libfm-qt_1.1.0-1_1.1.0-2~1.diff.gz22:15
arraybolt3[m]grr.....22:15
kc2bez[m]Once that migrates we are all set22:16
arraybolt3[m]And I'm not seeing a patches directory if I download the packaging from packages.ubuntu.com.22:16
kc2bez[m]I see it in the diff file linked above22:16
arraybolt3[m]I wonder how it got dropped. At least it will eventually carry over, but that's odd.22:17
kc2bez[m]A. Lee dropped it in -1 and it got added back in -222:18
arraybolt3[m]Oh. I forget that we're dealing with multiple teams.22:18
kc2bez[m]Right, autosync takes time too22:19
kc2bez[m]s390 was slow last night too22:19
kc2bez[m]It sat in proposed for a while 22:19
kc2bez[m]Britney won't sweep it through until it builds on all arches 22:20
arraybolt3[m]<tsimonq2> "arraybolt3 @arraybolt3:matrix...." <- Simon Quigley (Developer): Is there a place in the documentation for me to look that up, or should I just use logic? Because I think I can see the logic exactly already.22:22
lubot[telegram] <Roberalz> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-themes/pull/7522:27
ubot93Pull 75 in lxqt/lxqt-themes "Adding styling for Wing Menu in all themes" [Open]22:27
arraybolt3[m]Simon Quigley (Developer): OK, I can't find the docs, so I'm gonna go for it.22:28
arraybolt3[m]libfm-qt8 exists in Debian.. If libfm-qt11 does not break/replace libfm-qt8, it will cause update problems if a package (like pcmanfm-qt) depends on libfm-qt11 and is upgraded.22:29
arraybolt3[m]Once a new Debian release is made that no longer contains libfm-qt8 in its archive, then we can drop the package breaks/replaces for libfm-qt8 because there's no need to break/replace a package that doesn't exist anymore.22:30
lubot[telegram] <Roberalz> It seems to be something cosmetic. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> Rober: If you think the fix looks important enough we can include it, asking for input first.)22:30
arraybolt3[m]In Ubuntu, users can upgrade either straight from one LTS to another, or from LTS to standard release, meaning we need to be prepared for a user to be coming from one of two different upgrade paths, so for maximum safety, we need to have breaks/replaces against everything in between two LTS releases.22:33
arraybolt3[m]That way, no matter what package versions or sonames are involved once upgrade time rolls around, there won't be a random conflict somewhere deep in the guts of the system.22:34
arraybolt3[m]Simon Quigley (Developer): Did I get all that right?22:35
lubot[telegram] <Roberalz> New menĂº?22:37
lubot[telegram] <Roberalz> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/649e7c52/file_5503.jpg22:37
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> https://t.me/ldevel2019/133911 (re @Roberalz: New menĂº?)22:46
arraybolt3[m]@Roberalz: OK wait what? That looks SO COOL.22:51
lubot[telegram] <Roberalz> Perfect (re @kc2bez: https://t.me/ldevel2019/133911)22:57
lubot[telegram] <Roberalz> Thanks22:57

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