[15:44] heh so it turns out it wasn't my termination at all, i thankfully had the sense to test again, then weirdly just rubbing a finger over the contacts of a brand new patch cable sorted out [15:44] +it [15:44] suddenly full sync speed \o/ [15:54] 9600baud... both ways! :-) [15:54] yep top o' the line! [15:55] those bbses just fly down now [16:03] no more waiting 30 minutes for a wallpaper bmp of enterprise 1701-d to come down :-P