[00:00] <winshit> huh?
[00:00] <winshit> is something wrong?
[00:00] <hggdh> yes. Please change your nick
[00:01] <SOMETHING> here we go
[00:01] <hggdh> thank you
[00:02] <Guest3922> shall i repeat my problem?
[00:02] <hggdh> give it a few more minutes and then yes, re-state it
[00:05] <sarnold> .local is used for mdns, not dns
[00:06] <Guest3922> and
[00:06] <Guest3922> id like it to ask my dns server and use the a record it gets
[00:12] <Guest3922> i disabled mdns by removing it from the nsswitch.conf file
[00:13] <Guest3922> avahi is not installed
[00:57] <irrgit> Hello, During a recent upgrade to 22.04 it appears that my installation has been broken in some parts. When I issue 'journalctl -xe' I get the following error message -> "journalctl: error while loading shared libraries: libsystemd-shared-247.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directoy"
[00:58] <irrgit> What can I do to fix my system?
[01:30] <VIA> hello everyone
[01:31] <VIA> how can i call a function/program lik i normally ould via console, but from a bash script ?
[01:32] <VIA> *hoestly i dont know the difference between bash- and shell-script
[01:43] <modbol[m]>  I just updated from Ubuntu Studio 21.10 to 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish with KDE Plasma. It mostly works, but I get no indication of wireless. The panel widget for networking shows only wired network (which works). lspci shows what I think is the appropriate Intel Wi-Fi controller:
[01:43] <modbol[m]>  *  I just updated from Ubuntu Studio 21.10 to 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish with KDE Plasma. It mostly works, but I get no indication of wireless. The panel widget for networking shows only wired network (which works). lspci shows what I think is the appropriate Intel Wi-Fi controller: aa:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz (rev 1a)
[01:44] <oerheks> well, studio page says that you need to do a fresh install, ubuntu studio is now based on KDE.
[01:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> oerheks: That's only if coming from 20.04, not 21.10
[01:45] <oerheks> oh oke, i did a fresh install
[01:45] <modbol[m]> My previous Ubuntu Studio was already KDE, and the wireless part of the networking widget was good.
[01:45] <Eickmeyer[m]> modbol: It occurred to me before you left the other room: try typing alt-space followed by "plasmashell --replace" and see if that kicks the widget into gear. It might just be stuck for whatever reason. Also, bear in mind, it won't show wireless networks if you have wired plugged in.
[01:46] <modbol[m]> I'm reluctant to do the fresh install, but I may if I don't find another solution. Everything else appears to be fine, and I hate to lose any working configuration.
[01:47] <modbol[m]> I just tryed the "plasmashell --replace" and didn't see a result. I typed the alt-space in the widget (which is a subwidget of some collected thing). I'm guessing that "plasmashell" is a shell command?
[01:48] <oerheks> for that intel wifi, install backport-iwlwifi-dkms and reboot ?
[01:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> modbol: alt-space should've brought-up a thing for you to type in called KRunner.
[01:48] <oerheks> !info backport-iwlwifi-dkms
[01:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> oerheks: It's already detecting his card.
[01:48] <oerheks> this dkms builds the latest driver for you
[01:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> Shows up in lspci
[01:48] <oerheks> oh i read wired works only
[01:49] <oerheks> lspci will show it, but no driver in use?
[01:49] <Eickmeyer[m]> Correct, at least the NetworkManager widget won't show it.
[01:49] <oerheks> sudo lshw -C network # to check
[01:49] <modbol[m]> Eickmeyer[m]: Yeah. Which I understand is the same as running in a konsole, but no output visible.
[01:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> modbol: That's intentional, it should've made plasma disappear and reappear when you typed "plasmashell --replace" into the box.
[01:50] <modbol[m]> Eickmeyer[m]: I think that's what happened. I've done it a few times.
[01:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok.
[01:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> It was worth a shot.
[01:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> oerheks should have this now, he's good with network stuff.
[01:51] <oerheks> :-)
[01:52] <modbol[m]> lshw -C network shows the Intel Wi-Fi interface.
[01:53] <modbol[m]> (BTW I'm new to this chat system, and rather fuzzy on the details.)
[01:53] <oerheks> driver= ??
[01:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> Matrix is like IRC on steroids, you'll get the hang of it. :)
[01:54] <modbol[m]> configuration: driver=iwlwifi latency=0
[01:54] <modbol[m]> (from lshw)
[01:55] <modbol[m]> I should probably try a command line enabling of wifi. I've been hunting for the right command, which I thought would use iwconfig
[01:56] <modbol[m]> Eickmeyer[m]: Never did IRC, but I used to to ytalk which is way weirder.
[01:56] <oerheks> oke, still i suggest to install the dkms package..
[01:57] <Eickmeyer[m]> backport-iwlwifi-dkms
[01:57] <modbol[m]> dkms was already installed. "backport-lwlwifi-dkms" is a shell command?
[01:57] <Eickmeyer[m]> sudo apt install backport-iwlwifi-dkms
[01:58] <modbol[m]> OK, sudo apt install backport-iwlwifi-dkms seems to be installing a new module.
[01:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's expected.
[01:59] <oerheks> oke, after that, reboot.
[01:59] <modbol[m]> Yeah. I'll lose you guys while rebooting, but I think I will come back alive ;^D
[02:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> You'll be fine. Just log-in to Matrix again and you'll be right back with us as if you never left.
[02:01] <modbol[m]> Yeah. I seem to have my wireless again through the Plasma KDE panel subwidget. Thanks very much.
[02:02] <modbol[m]> I will try to archive this solution in case of a future loss.
[02:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> You're quite welcome!
[02:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> !cookie | oerheks
[02:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> Is that command gone? Dangit...
[02:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh, there it is. Just slow on my end.
[02:03] <modbol[m]> I think I see all the relevant info in the chat sequence. I keep a system-log.txt file with all the things I might need to do again some day.
[02:03] <oerheks> !logs
[02:03] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, this chat is logged, so you can always search for it too.
[02:03] <oerheks> always available
[02:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm glad I brought you here too, modbol , because I'm a firm believer in teamwork. There's no way I would've been able to guide you through all of that on my own.
[02:05] <modbol[m]> Kewl. Have I done anything else to my configuration that will not be obvious to a highly nerdy guy but who doesn't keep closely in touch with this stuff?
[02:05] <modbol[m]> Eickmeyer[m]: Thanks. It was incredibly effective.
[02:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> modbol: Probably not. You're probably fine.
[02:07] <oerheks> all solutions found here, end up in tweaks and bits in the installer, or manual https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless.html.en
[02:08] <oerheks> bing: ubuntu + doc + subject
[02:08] <modbol[m]> I'll also post it to a Framework computer forum.
[02:16] <transhumanist> is kazooie.cononical.com having trouble, seems to take forever to actually connect?
[02:17] <oerheks> transhumanist, again? use the main repo
[02:17] <transhumanist> sorry I dont remember you mentioning this to me before, sorry for the repeat
[02:20] <jdmark> can anyone recommend an open source discord client for ubuntu?
[02:21] <leftyfb> jdmark: try #ubuntu-offtopic for software opinions
[02:21] <oerheks> jdmark,  there is no open source discord app https://snapcraft.io/discord
[02:22] <oerheks> prop binairy blob only
[02:22] <oerheks> and if you find any, question the author and safety
[02:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> Any client other than the official discord client used with the discord service is a violation of the discord TOS, so proprietary blob only.
[02:25] <Unit193> Eickmeyer[m]: As if TOS breaking clients don't exist anyway! :>
[02:25] <Unit193> !info pianobar
[02:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> Unit193: Discord tends to crack down on that quite a bit more.
[03:22] <webchat59> hey guys is there a way to update all the security packages/patches , and jusst the security packages/patches, not upgrading the whole system
[03:36] <oerheks> webchat59, no
[03:41] <webchat59> oerheks that's a lil strange to me, this should be something any OS should support. Otherwise we'll get into a continually endless upgrade...
[03:41] <oerheks> what OS does that? none...
[03:42] <CapPICARD> webchat59: do you mean just to apply security patches but not feature patches? if so, you can set it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <CapPICARD> for example, if you want just multiverse security updates, you can add the line (for 20.04):
[03:44] <CapPICARD> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security multiverse
[03:44] <oerheks> good luck with picking just one line..
[03:48] <Guest4335> Should I disable SecureBoot when using any Linux distro?
[03:48] <Guest4335> My system has been freezing randomly, using Lubuntu 22.04 LTS, AMD Ryzen 7 CPU, Nvidia GPU with Proprietary 'tested' driver.
[03:48] <Guest4335> My theory is SecureBoot may be blocking the GPU driver or similar
[03:51] <matsaman> it's pretty unlikely secure boot is doing anything useful for you anyway
[03:51] <matsaman> especially if you personally can disable it
[03:51] <oerheks> crossposting in #linux, ayacee already answered him
[03:59] <Guest4335> oerheks come on
[03:59] <Guest4335> Im asking in here to get new answers, theres 1000 potential answer'ers here
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !crosspost | Guest4335
[03:59] <oerheks> any answer given, you question because reddit.
[03:59] <oerheks> lolz
[04:00] <oerheks> ayacee does fine.
[04:00] <Guest4335> anyways
[04:00] <Guest4335> Still accepting new answers
[04:00] <Guest4335> here
[04:01] <oerheks> you already disabled secureboot, now your wifi works. so why you ask again, about your GPU is a mystery to me.
[04:02] <oerheks> ask again @ reddit?
[04:57] <Hash> Does anyone have a document to refer to and see what ubuntu changes after getting copy from debian?
[04:58] <Hash> I would like to know what all Ubuntu does to debian so I can know the differences. Thank you
[04:58] <Hash> However detailed is fine.
[05:40] <alkisg> Hash: apt source packagename, and look for the ubuntu patches in the debian/patches directory
[05:43] <Unit193> pull-lp-source to get the latest version, not just for the version you're on.
[07:16] <ash_m> So I'm reading https://www.anishathalye.com/2014/08/03/managing-your-dotfiles/ and granted, it's old, but it addresses problems I don't fully understand about dotfiles. The author recommends symlinking dotfiles to a git protect and how that's better than copying them, but can't you just `git clone --no-checkout` to your home directory and track them directly? What problem does symlinking solve?
[07:22] <TLDR> are we all ubuntu (human)?
[07:24] <TLDR> I only question this because I keep on meeting fairly inhumane peoples...
[07:45] <barg> where can I download the ISO for Ubuntu Live USB? I tried https://ubuntu.com/download but i can't really see a link
[07:48] <Unit193> barg: https://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/jammy/release/ should do?
[07:48] <ravage> the headline "Ubuntu Desktop >" is the link
[07:49] <Unit193> https://releases.ubuntu.com/jammy/ or that...
[07:49] <ravage> it would be much clearer to add a download button there too for sure
[07:51] <barg> thanks
[09:15] <vladoski> how can I "factory reset" my bluetooth on ubuntu?
[09:16] <vladoski> it's having a strange behaviour, sees 10 devices with the same name that is supposed to be my headphones
[09:16] <arraybolt3[m]> vladoski: Forget all of the Bluetooth devices you've connected to and then restart the Bluetooth driver?
[09:16] <vladoski> still though can't connect my headphones properly
[09:16] <vladoski> arraybolt3[m], how can I restart the bluetooth driver?
[09:17] <vladoski> via GUI doesn't work
[09:17] <arraybolt3[m]> vladoski: You can restart the Bluetooth driver without rebooting by opening a terminal and running "sudo modprobe -r btusb && sleep 1 && sudo modprobe btusb"
[09:19] <vladoski> now I can't access bluetoothctl nor via GUI
[09:19] <arraybolt3[m]> vladoski: And this is after running the command above?
[09:19] <vladoski> ye
[09:19] <arraybolt3[m]> (You might have missed the "sudo modprobe btusb" part - try running just that and see what happens.)
[09:20] <vladoski> i've literally copied and pasted it but ok i'll try
[09:21] <arraybolt3[m]> (It might also have been lag - I put the "sleep 1" in there to give modprobe enough time to work, but it might have not quite done it.)
[09:21] <vladoski> okay
[09:21] <vladoski> now works via cli
[09:21] <vladoski> gnome seems stuck
[09:21] <arraybolt3[m]> Close and re-open the Bluetooth window, that might help.
[09:22] <vladoski> i've restarted gnome and now works
[09:22] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍️
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> vladoski: you might wanna try out stacer for GUI systemd management aswell if you like
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> !info stacer
[09:24] <vladoski> lotuspsychje, noted
[09:24] <vladoski> arraybolt3[m], okay that didn't work
[09:24] <vladoski> I mean still having multiple "headphones"
[09:24] <vladoski> and if I connect one of them, it connects but can't hear a thing
[09:25] <arraybolt3[m]> vladoski: Crud. And that was after selecting each one and forgetting them?
[09:25] <arraybolt3[m]> vladoski: Also, did these headphones ever work before, and what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[09:25] <vladoski> yea, main problem is that now (for unknown reasons) I get LE-phones instead of just phones
[09:25] <vladoski> I assume that LE is for Low Energy
[09:25] <vladoski> arraybolt3[m], two days ago they worked fine
[09:26] <arraybolt3[m]> vladoski: It might help to disable Bluetooth LE, though I know from experience this will make a lot of Bluetooth devices unable to be detected any longer (though it might get your headphones to work).
[09:26] <vladoski> how can i do that
[09:26] <arraybolt3[m]> sudo nano /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[09:27] <vladoski> ok i'll try
[09:27] <arraybolt3[m]> Then edit the ControllerMode entry to be equal to "bredr" rather than "le", uncommenting the line if needed.
[09:27] <vladoski> then I can just restart the service with systemctl right?
[09:27] <arraybolt3[m]> I believe so.
[09:28] <arraybolt3[m]> With "sudo systemctl restart bluetooth".
[09:28] <vladoski> k now it's working as always
[09:29] <vladoski> why is bluetooth that difficult to manage on linux distros lol
[09:29] <arraybolt3[m]> I don't know, but they supposedly helped it out in Ubuntu 22.04 IIRC.
[09:29] <arraybolt3[m]> (I could be wrong about that, now that I look at it.)
[09:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah, I was right, there are Bluetooth improvements in 22.04. So maybe things are getting better!
[09:32] <vladoski> ok I'll upgrade then
[09:32] <vladoski> i'm on 20
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> vladoski: are you using gnomes baked BT or blueman?
[09:33] <vladoski> lotuspsychje, gnome
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> vladoski: you could try out blueman and compare if things go better?
[09:33] <vladoski> okay
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> i recall on 20.04 development there were several bluetooth issues, bug that should be straightened out by now
[11:16] <iomari891> greetings, whenever I try to compile source code, I get the following error: "sudo: unable to execute ./configure: Permission denied"
[11:20] <szindzeks> i'm a linux noob, but did you make that file executable?
[11:21] <szindzeks> you can do that by executing "chmod u+x <filename>"
[11:22] <szindzeks> you should probably make a whole directory executable
[12:07] <Payam> Hi
[12:07] <Payam> what is the name of channel for u buntu development?
[12:07] <Payam> is it ##ubuntu-dev?
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> Payam: #ubuntu-devel
[12:07] <Payam> thanks lotuspsychje
[13:02] <nwoob> I have installed ubuntu in oracle virtualbox and then changed resolution to 1920x1080(16:9) but the fonts are very small
[13:02] <nwoob> how can I change that
[13:07] <leftyfb> nwoob: settings -> displays -> Scale
[13:09] <nwoob> scale is currently at 100% and selecting 200% makes everything too big
[13:09] <nwoob> leftyfb:
[13:18] <Maik> nwoob: install gnome tweaks and adjust the fontsize there
[13:26] <tomreyn> nwoob: if you run an ubuntu version and flavor which can work with wayland, you can logout and login to a wayland session instead and then use fractional scaling on settings -> display.
[13:27] <nwoob> yeah I turned on fractional scaling and scaled to 125
[13:27] <nwoob> thank you everyone for the help
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:31] <nwoob> what limitations will I face while running ubuntu in oracle virtualbox?
[13:31] <nwoob> I will be mostly using ubuntu to do web development
[13:40] <tomreyn> nwoob: anythng you'll face with hardware abstraction, as in any virtual machine. if you're doing (server side) web development you shouldn't actually run a graphical user interface on it, though, but use ubuntu server with ssh access.
[13:40] <tomreyn> (and http(s) access to the web server)
[13:55] <nwoob> If i'm using browser in virtualbox, can my company's IT dept track my search history?
[13:56] <leftyfb> if you make no effort to cover your tracks, possibly
[13:56] <samy1028c> nwoob: if you're traffic goes out over their network, it depends on how your network is configured.  Possibly yes.
[13:58] <cohiba> Use whonix. This distro use onion network.
[13:59] <leftyfb> cohiba: lets not use this support channel to recommend other linux distro's to circumvent company network polices
[14:00] <samy1028c> though, if you're purposefully trying to evade your corporate IT policies, then that's a whole other issue.  And I would probably escort you out the door asap.
[14:01] <arraybolt3[m]> nwoob: Can they track your search history? Maybe, maybe not (depends on what accounts you're signed into and what the search engines give them). Can they track where you go? Easily - anyone can do that unless you have a VPN or anonymity network.
[14:02] <arraybolt3[m]> nwoob: Doing stuff on company time with company data that the company doesn't like is a quick recipe for termination and possibly even further punishment depending on what you're looking at. The best solution? Stick to your agreements and don't do anything that the company doesn't like while you're on their property.
[14:03] <nwoob> leftyfb: I don't want to do anything which company doesn't likes.
[14:03] <nwoob> sorry tagged you by mistake
[14:03] <arraybolt3[m]> That's fine, I got it.
[14:04] <nwoob> I mainly wanted to know if I log into my personal gmail account on company laptop, can they access my personal gmail data if I'm on company network
[14:05] <arraybolt3[m]> nwoob: They could, depending on whether or not they have management software installed on your system.
[14:05] <arraybolt3[m]> nwoob: Even if you use VirtualBox, they could still use screen recording software to snoop if they wanted to that bad. If you're using a company laptop, it all depends on how much you trust the company.
[14:05] <nwoob> how can I know if any management softare is installed on windows system
[14:06] <arraybolt3[m]> nwoob: That could be tricky, depending on how determined they are to hide the software.
[14:06] <nwoob> I don't think they will do some shady things like screen recording as it is a big company, Siemens
[14:06] <leftyfb> nwoob: this isn't the place for that
[14:07] <nwoob> leftyfb: things I'm discussing?
[14:07] <leftyfb> nwoob: this is an ubuntu support channel.
[14:07] <nwoob> my apologies
[14:08] <arraybolt3[m]> nwoob: Really, the best solution here would be to get a personal device and bring it with you (if that's allowed), and install whatever you want on that. Then you can dodge all management software, and use a VPN to access your email without them being able to track anything you do.
[14:08] <arraybolt3[m]> (Keep in mind that would require that you are allowed to use both a personal device and a VPN - again, check with your company here.)
[14:08] <nwoob> thanks arraybolt3[m] for explaining things in detail to me
[14:09] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍️ Happy to help!
[14:10] <arraybolt3[m]> (You can get dirt-cheap laptops on eBay that will take a distro like Lubuntu no problem.)
[14:27] <ash_m> Why do people need a dotfile manager?  What happens if you just try to track files directly in your home with git?
[14:28] <ravage> ash_m, #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:29] <Peanut> I've just installed Ubuntu 22.04 on my old (mid-2012) MacBookPro. I get the splash-screen, but I never get to see a login option (it did work on the very first boot). I can switch to a text console. Volume/backlight buttons also work, just doesn't seem to want to start the desktop.
[14:30] <ash_m> Okay
[14:31] <ravage> Peanut, did you try to install updates from the console and reboot?
[14:33] <Peanut> ravage: Yes, it's up to date with packages. It seems to be a problem with snapd-desktop-integration.service, which dies.
[14:33] <Peanut> It could also be an nvidia driver issue, because those apparently got installed after my fist (succesful) boot
[14:34] <ravage> that is more likely yes
[14:34] <genii> You might want to try issuing: sudo systemctl restart gdm      ..and then if no login page look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:34] <ravage> you can try to add the "nomodeset" parameter to your kernel parmaters
[14:34] <ravage> and see if that gets you a GUI
[14:35] <Peanut> genii: 'systemctl restart gdm' just seems to hang...
[14:35] <ravage> To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[14:36] <genii> Peanut: Eventually it should either succeed/fail with error message, or timeout
[14:36] <ravage> but if you get to a console that is just a shot in the dark really. checking the log is a good idea
[14:37] <Peanut> genii: Eventually, it did neither: it just returned after a long while to the text screen. Now rebooting with 'nomodeset'.
[14:37] <Peanut> The 'nomodeset' did the trick, it seems - let me try without again to verify.
[14:48] <Peanut> Without 'nomodeset', no desktop. With 'nomodeset', it does boot into desktop fine (with a bit of 'waiting for snapd to be fully seeded', which seems entropy-related.
[14:51] <ioria> Peanut, have you check if nvidia drivers has been installed and what version ?  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[14:51] <ioria> **checked
[14:54] <Peanut> ioria: Good call, there's no nvidia driver installed, and doesn't show up in 'lsmod'.
[14:54] <bloodfart69> I am trying to install ubuntu and everytime I reboot, for some reason it keeps creating boot entries that don't work? Has anybody dealt with this before and is there a solution?
[14:55] <ioria> Peanut, you probably want to try the X session instead of Wayland
[14:56] <Peanut> Oh gosh, Wayland wasn't even on my radar yet.
[14:59] <bloodfart69> Also, does ubuntu automatically create a boot entry ( or whatever you call it ), efistub, the data that allows you to boot into GRUB whenever you update it?
[15:02] <ioria> bloodfart69, can you define 'boot entries' ?
[15:04] <bloodfart69> When you turn your computer on, and get into the bios, it has these disk images ( for me ) I can click on them and swap them around. This allows me to boot off whatever drive I want
[15:05] <ioria> oh, yes, i see
[15:05] <bloodfart69> Whenever I boot into my bios, it clones a bunch of un-needed ( boot entries ) that are labled "ubuntu" and "UEFI OS"
[15:06] <ioria> i'am afraid that depends on the efi implementation not on the OS ( but i can be wrong)
[15:06] <Peanut> ioria: According to 'loginctl', I'm running X11 already. I also have the nvidia-390 packages installed. However, lsmod shows neither nvidia nor nouveau modules loaded, and yet I have a working desktop. This may be due to apple_gmux, using the integrated video of the CPU?
[15:06] <ioria> Peanut, you have or you don't have nvidia ???
[15:07] <RiFo> hello, i got a quick question, ubuntu (as every os) comes with a package of preinstalled trusted ca certificates, how can i update those, so i get the newest list of certificates?
[15:07] <ioria> Peanut,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[15:07] <bloodfart69> What do you mean by "efi implementation"? What would I type in google?
[15:07] <Peanut> ioria: That's exactly my question. There is a nvidia device on the PCI-e bus (GT650M Mac Edition). But it doesn't seem to be used for video at the moment.
[15:07] <ioria> Peanut,  let's try again ; dpkg -l | grep nvidia  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:08] <Peanut> ioria: The nvidia-390 packages are installed, I have a whole bunch of libnvidia-*-390 packages.
[15:08] <ioria> bloodfart69, you MB
[15:08] <ioria> Peanut,  try to purge it and reboot
[15:09] <bloodfart69> I had an idea what you mean by "implementation" as that's used a lot in coding such as c++, etc. I just wanted to make sure we're on the same page
[15:11] <bloodfart69> Anyways, there is a bug in my bios at the moment. I can't remember what it was as I kept thinking it is something with ubuntu or the drive itself. Doesn't make sense for it to be the drive. It's brand new
[15:11] <ioria> bloodfart69,  i mean that there's no standard UEFI; every manufacturer implements its own
[15:12] <ioria> bloodfart69, it's ASUS ?
[15:12] <bloodfart69> Yeah it is
[15:12] <ioria> yep
[15:12] <bloodfart69> great
[15:13] <bloodfart69> So I have to tweak the bios?
[15:13] <ioria> bloodfart69, i can't help you, but maybe EriC^^ can (idk if he's active  atm)
[15:15] <ioria> bloodfart69, you might play with efibootmgr but idk much about it
[15:15] <bloodfart69> I've been playing with it to an extent. I'll look into it more
[15:15] <ioria> gl
[15:16] <ogra> RiFo, just keep your OS updated in general, cert changes come with the general updates
[15:17] <bloodfart69> Thanks lol. I'll dig through the book and stuff as well
[15:41] <bloodfart69> Do you use MSG or USELECT to reply to someone?
[15:55] <bloodfart69> EriC^^, I am havig a problem with my ASUS MB. It keeps creating ( boot entries ) whenever I reboot. I was hoping you might know something?
[15:56] <bloodfart69> ioria, told me you might be able to help me
[15:56] <EriC^^> bloodfart69: type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[15:56] <EriC^^> it sounds like it's something to do with the bios not ubuntu, if when you enter the bios it clones them
[15:57] <oerheks> check for an asus bios update first
[15:59] <tomreyn> bloodfart69: please also pick a better nickname.
[16:00] <bloodfart69> Okay gimme a second
[16:04] <willowLog> That's better?
[16:06] <oerheks> :-)
[16:06] <oerheks> sudo dmidecode -s bios-version
[16:06] <oerheks> gives your current bios version
[16:07] <willowLog> EriC^^, Right now I am running arch linux, is there an alternate command that can suffice? I can chroot it later on but right now I am cloning it to a another disk
[16:08] <oerheks> ... arch issues in ubuntu
[16:09] <willowLog> I can chroot the ubuntu after it's done cloning with no issue
[16:10] <EriC^^> willowLog: you could update the bios and see if it works, or if you want you could delete all the ubuntu/foreign to your bios entries, and use the default ms efi location to boot, (efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi and efi/boot/bootx64.efi by copying and renaming your shimx64.efi file there
[16:10] <EriC^^> if the bios doesnt let you delete efibootmgr can delete entries
[16:14] <willowLog> I can delete the entries no problem with efibootmgr. I have to redo the keys and what not
[16:15] <willowLog> Latest version is 2019. I was thinking about installing coreboot on it ( the ME firmware can be disabled or enabled )
[16:20] <willowLog> oerheks, My installation I screwed up badly. ( manually created luks + lvm ) and installed ubuntu onto a logical volume called root. I've been fixing it ( chrooting it, building custom kernel, etc ) Like I said before I am cloning the machine to another disk ( as I have to disks that are identical ) and I am trying to chainload ubuntu's grub loader from Arch Linux's grub loader
[16:22] <willowLog> Considering there's also a bug ( with memtest+86 ) or something like that which prevents symlinking to the initrd. That said, I lost shim64.exe and BOOTx64.exe
[16:26] <willowLog> I haven't touched ubuntu for a long time, as it infuriated me due to the lack of freedom. So I don't know if I need additional packages or whatever to create keys for secure boot. Oh and What I mean "freedom" is the installation wants to do everything for you and I really do not like that. Heck, even if I let it do it's thing, it partitions devices terribly. That's from my experience
[16:30] <willowLog> EriC^^, it Probably me XD. that reminds me there's a way to create secure boot keys. I don't know if I need them and if I do then I need to re-create bootx64.efi, shimx64.efi or whatever it is called
[17:04] <Liblx> ~i have to update an old server from 18.04 to 22.04. should i go 18>20>22 or 18>21>22? and is there anything i can do to avoid problems later?
[17:05] <leftyfb> Liblx: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:05] <oerheks> choose lts to lts, so 18 > 20 > 22 .. i would do a fresh install
[17:06] <oerheks> no python2 cruft and such..
[17:07] <gusto> I'd spend some time evaluate how much work it would be to get everything back up and running on a fresh server, I have upgraded and regretted that decision later as it does leave a bit of cruft behind
[17:07] <Liblx> leftyfb: thanks. oerheks: i'll try the upgrade. fresh install is always possible afterwards and of course better. i'll see.
[17:07] <oerheks> have fun!
[17:08] <Liblx> gusto: hm, okay. you and oerheks. two votes for fresh install. i'll think about it.
[17:08] <gusto> for the most part it has worked out, but I've always ran into some bits and bobs not working as expected, or rather, I had forgotten about having done something stoopid :)
[17:09] <Liblx> ;)
[17:10] <Guest5357> hi
[17:10] <oerheks> !rootirc
[17:27] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: do you use a dotfile manager in addition to your ansible playbook for system config?
[17:28] <leftyfb> No, though I do split things out depending on context. At least bashrc and ssh files
[17:31] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: does ansible manage your dotfiles? or do you just keep them in a repo?
[17:32] <leftyfb> yes and no. Kinda offtopic here though
[17:32] <leftyfb> ash_worksi: just pick what works best for you
[18:26] <Lucie> https://www.twitch.tv/chaots
[18:28] <grugle> k bet nobody clicked it
[18:28] <oerheks> Lucie, no spam here
[18:54] <root> hi
[19:52] <funhouse> is there a way to search for largest directoies filesize when theres no diskspace left without deleting any files?
[19:54] <tomreyn> ncdu if you have it installed, otherwise du
[19:55] <tomreyn> add -x to either to stay on a single (given) file system
[19:55] <funhouse> tomreyn thank you but I am doing this --> sudo du -a / | sort -n -r | head -n 20
[19:55] <sarnold> "apt-get autoclean" can be a handy way to get a few free megabytes quickly -- maybe it won't be on the right filesystem, but it's easy to run :)
[19:55] <funhouse> I guess you need space for sort?
[19:56] <funhouse> sarnold ok trying now
[19:56] <funhouse> sort: write failed: /tmp/sort7qHYFZ: No space left on device :/
[19:57] <funhouse> i mean im only running nginx and mysql, not sure why space filled up
[19:57] <funhouse> my webapp doesnt have crazy log files or anything
[20:03] <tomreyn> funhouse: is  sudo du -sh /var/log   more than 4 GB?
[20:04] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version is this?
[20:04] <funhouse> 832M    /var/log
[20:04] <funhouse> tomaw 18
[20:04] <funhouse> tomreyn
[20:05] <tomreyn> how about /var/lib/mysql - more than you expect?
[20:05] <ravage> funhouse: df -h|nc termbin.com 9999
[20:35] <jhutchins> What is the ssh config file equivalent of "-i somefile.pem"?
[20:36] <ravage> IdentityFile
[20:41] <jhutchins> Using a .pem file, -i pemfile.pem works, IdentityFile doesn't.
[20:41] <ravage> then your host entry probably does not match
[20:41] <ravage> you can check with -vvv
[20:42] <tomreyn> you can also test the verbatim configuration setting with: ssh -o 'IdentityFile /path/to/somefile.pem' someserver
[20:43] <ravage> or the config is just in the wrong place, has the wrong format and/or permissions
[20:44] <ravage> debug1: /home/user/.ssh/config line 446: Applying options for *
[20:44] <ravage> something like that should show up in the first few lines
[20:45] <jhutchins> Again, ssh -i file.pem works.
[20:46] <jhutchins> All I want is that exact equivalent.
[20:46] <ravage> and you think ignorung any advice will make things better? good luck then :)
[20:47] <jhutchins> ravage: Which advice?  -vvv doesn't specify why it sends the key and then falls through to password.
[20:48] <tomreyn> you're looking for the Host / Match record from the configuration file there
[20:49] <jhutchins> receive packet: type 51
[20:49] <jhutchins> It's sending the right key.
[20:53] <funhouse> tomreyn https://pastebin.com/0Py0LUsB
[20:53] <funhouse> ravage that didnt seem to do anything
[20:54] <tomreyn> funhouse: ravage's command should have returned a URL for you to post here. if this system has internet access
[20:54] <jhutchins> Documentation says that IdentityFile is the correct setting, and pointing -i to the same file works.
[20:54] <ravage> if not you can paste the output of "df -h" manually
[20:55] <tomreyn> ...on a pastebin, not here
[20:57] <jhutchins> Gaah.  Mistyped username in the config file.  Sorry, thanks for trying.
[20:58] <funhouse> can i delete the /var/log/journal folder?
[20:58] <funhouse> no url
[20:58] <funhouse> returns nothing, its an aws instance
[20:59] <funhouse> df -h --> https://pastebin.com/S0YX1eP8
[21:00] <ravage> 8GB really is not a lot
[21:00] <ravage> dont just delete it
[21:00] <ravage> you can limit it
[21:00] <funhouse> ok
[21:01] <tomreyn> it limits itself, though
[21:01] <funhouse> hmm --> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/130786/can-i-remove-files-in-var-log-journal-and-var-cache-abrt-di-usr
[21:01] <ravage> SystemMaxUse=200M
[21:01] <ravage> in /etc/systemd/journald.conf
[21:01] <funhouse> cant edit it :/
[21:01] <funhouse> i guess i can remove some files for now
[21:01] <funhouse> will do that
[21:02] <ravage> and then "systemctl restart systemd-journald" or a reboot if you made at least some minimal space
[21:02] <tomreyn> apt-cache clean    is the better option, though, if yiu haven't
[21:03] <Bashing-om> funhouse: also ' sudo journalctl --vacuum-size=100M ' can free up some space.
[21:04] <funhouse> ravage ok doing now
[21:04] <tomreyn> and you could purge some of the older snap revisions.
[21:04] <funhouse> tomreyn instead of ravages method?
[21:04] <ogra> yeah, what Bashing-om said should have been the first thing you do
[21:04] <sarnold> yeah that's probably more fruitful than my apt-get autoclean :)
[21:04] <tomreyn> funhouse: i'd do "apt-cache clean' first if i need to free up some space to be able to work at all
[21:05] <tomreyn> oh, i meant sarnold's command
[21:05] <oerheks> how about df -i # inodes
[21:05] <tomreyn> there is no "apt-cache clean", whoops
[21:05] <funhouse> tomreyn did, nothing changed :/
[21:05] <ogra> clean or autoclean really only helps if there is a lot of old cruft in the cache ... vaccumig the logs is always the easiest and quickest
[21:05] <funhouse> sudo apt-get clean
[21:06] <tomreyn> ogra: but can you vacuum when there is not one byte free?
[21:06] <ogra> hmm, i thought you can
[21:07] <tomreyn> i trust you there, really don't know myself
[21:07] <ogra> i think i did it in the past ... though not 100% sure
[21:13] <tomreyn> ogra: yes, you can. though it will just delete an archived journal then apparently, and only if this file is less or euqal the size difference of --disk-usage and --vaccum-size=...
[21:14] <tomreyn> that's based on testing, not any reliable source. ;)
[21:17] <gpkumar> j #neovim
[22:04] <FurretUber> Hi, I'm trying to set up an external HDD partition to be usable with Steam using Proton. I was able to make the games work, but I'm unable to make mounting via udisks work, only root can mount it. The fstab line is: UUID=43754B5932F34301 /mnt/Externo ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,user,exec,umask=022,noatime,noauto,x-gvfs-show,x-udisks-auth 0 0
[22:05] <FurretUber> I'm having to use something like sudo mount /dev/sdc1 instead, instead of clicking on the Thunar icon to mount it
[22:08] <oerheks> i think steam wants ext4.
[22:08] <Bashing-om> FurretUber: That space in the mount point ? /mnt/Externo ntfs -- Linux sees a space as a delimiter so the kernel looks for "Externo".
[22:08] <ravage> ZFS works fine here too :)
[22:08] <oerheks> ntfs is not posix
[22:13] <FurretUber> There is no space between /mnt/ and Externo, or the formatting did something wrong when I pasted it
[22:14] <FurretUber> I was able to play Space Engineers and Project CARS 2 (the two games on it, for now), the Space Engineers video even played on the startup, which is absolutely insane by itself
[22:15] <tomreyn> FurretUber: the uuid looks like it's badly formatted
[22:21] <FurretUber> This is the fstab: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PdS69pNFDN/
[22:22] <FurretUber> Padding the fstab content with spaces to make it more readable is getting complicated with these long mount options...
[22:30] <tomreyn> FurretUber: and the UID matches the output from blkid?
[22:31] <FurretUber> It seems to: /dev/sdb2: LABEL="ADATA HD710 PRO" BLOCK_SIZE="512" UUID="43754B5932F34301" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="e60a218e-120c-4427-82e0-24330298e899"
[22:31] <hacker3001> hii there
[22:32] <hacker3001> anyone here
[22:32] <tomreyn> so the UUID is fine. and it will be something else.
[22:32] <arraybolt3[m]> Hello! hacker3001
[22:32] <tomreyn> hi hacker3001, got any ubuntu support topic?
[22:32] <hacker3001> >>
[22:33] <tomreyn> FurretUber: when you try to mount it using "mount" but without "sudo", what happens?
[22:36] <FurretUber> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ckJ8dyXWgz/
[22:37] <FurretUber> And this is using udisks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cWsVwSMPpD/
[22:41] <tomreyn> FurretUber: what does udiskctl say while the fstab line is commented out?
[22:41] <tomreyn> also try    gio mount    if you use gnome-shell
[22:43] <tomreyn> FurretUber: i'm guessing that the (restricted, non sudo) user "mount" fails because ntfs-3g is a user space tool, not a kernel call
[22:44] <tomreyn> and it's not a suid binary
[22:45] <tomreyn> oh look, it's the first answer on this FAQ linked in the error message
[22:45] <FurretUber> Just confirmed that Steam games work on NTFS with that mount options, as /proc/pid/maps was showing it was using the compatdata on NTFS: /mnt/Externo/SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/321040/pfx/drive_c/windows/syswow64/dxgi.dll
[22:45] <FurretUber> What is the Ubuntu's default? It has the suid?
[22:46] <FurretUber> Considering how old my install is, it's possible I did something to it
[22:49] <tomreyn> defaults can be release specific. it's not clear what you're running.
[22:49] <tomreyn> on 18.04, there is no suid
[22:49] <FurretUber> It's Xubuntu 22.04 (upgraded from at least 17.10)
[22:50] <FurretUber> And it's on the third computer already...
[22:56] <tomreyn> you might want to give that a fresh install sometime. :)
[23:00] <FurretUber> I think it does not have the suid set by default. What is interesting is that the mount works via udisks if I don't set options on fstab
[23:01] <FurretUber> OMG! setting the suid still fails
[23:05] <EriC^^> FurretUber: try adding your user to the 'disks' group
[23:05] <FurretUber> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wtt2rFXQMB/
[23:08] <EriC^^> FurretUber: there's a part here about making a group and adding the user to it, ntfsuser https://github.com/tuxera/ntfs-3g/wiki/NTFS-3G-FAQ
[23:09] <tomreyn> remove uid + gid options. or just use udiskctl / gio mount. i would not recommend adding suid bits unless you know it's safe.
[23:10] <FurretUber> The thing is: if I add the NTFS drive to /etc/fstab, then the normal user is unable to mount it, even if I set user as one of the options in the /etc/fstab
[23:11] <tomreyn> right, so don't add it there. or use EriC^^'s / the FAQs approach.
[23:12] <FurretUber> I think I would have to set up the suid, add my user to the disk group and make the owner of the mount point my user too. One moment
[23:13] <tomreyn> according to the options you set in /etc/fstab (noauto) you don't want it to automount, i don't see why you'd want it in fstab at all then.
[23:14] <FurretUber> It's the uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022
[23:15] <FurretUber> Without those, the games won't run
[23:18] <tomreyn> hmm, i see. and you're using ntfs because you're dual-booting with windows?
[23:19] <FurretUber> Exactly
[23:20] <tomreyn> exfat may be a better option for this by now - but i'm not sure whether support is ready, yet
[23:20] <FurretUber> Some games have bugs with ExFAT, unfortunately
[23:21] <FurretUber> Phantasy Star Online 2, for example, won't play some of the videos on the displays in the city/ship and the FPS will get to around 0,2 FPS
[23:23] <FurretUber> I tried all sorts of things, even creating loop mounts with EXT4 inside the NTFS partition without these extra options to get a valid compatdata as a wrapper to Proton
[23:24] <FurretUber> And now I'm this close to get a perfected HDD for games on both OSes, but then udisks revolts :cry:
[23:24] <ppw> perfection ... always juuuust out of grasp
[23:33] <jhutchins> FurretUber: I thought games used group perminssions, not a specific user.
[23:35] <jhutchins> Hm, doesn't look like that's still used.
[23:35] <jhutchins> There's a windows file permission extension of some kind.  I ran across it working with rdiff-backup.
[23:36] <FurretUber> OMG I DID IT
[23:38] <FurretUber> The line that works:
[23:38] <FurretUber> UUID=43754B5932F34301 /mnt/Externo ntfs-3g rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,exec,allow_other,uhelper=udisks2,noauto,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[23:40] <FurretUber> I mounted a bunch of external HDDs to see what were their options, and the above worked
[23:49] <FurretUber> Thank you, everyone
[23:50] <FurretUber> The games are working and I can mount and unmount without sudo
[23:54] <highrate> hello.  trying to install wine7.0 using official guide (https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu), got to the point where i use apt to install winehq-stable, but it says it cant find the package. odd cause winehq-devel works (although i didn't go through with the install)
[23:55] <highrate> apt-cache says winehq-devel and winehq-staging are available
[23:57] <highrate> guess i could go with devel
[23:59] <ash_worksi> I installed a program with `make` and then realized it's in canonical, so I `make uninstalled` it and reinstalled it through apt...
[23:59] <ash_worksi> the program is bitlbee