[10:07] <Saviq> "Morning" o/
[10:16] <Saviq> _Everything_ contains outdated Ubuntu packages today… (freetype had a vulnerability: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-5528-1)
[10:21] <Saviq> Everything looks fine in the lab, though.
[10:24] <alan_g[m]> I noticed. After updating most yesterday and the day before too
[10:25] <Saviq> Divide and conquer? I'll sanity check mir-*, you do egmde, mircade and ubuntu-frame-*?
[10:26] <alan_g[m]> ok. Or wait for tomorrow's notice?
[10:26] <Saviq> …
[10:35] <Saviq> Doubt that's new, but can't get mir-kiosk-kodi to run:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/9a1b700f1c437cce8db4f1f8a12cf835799ce2f0)
[10:36] <alan_g[m]> What are you running it on?
[10:37] <Saviq> NUC
[10:37] <alan_g[m]> I've seen problems with Mutter
[10:37] <Saviq> This is on hardware directly
[10:37] <Saviq> I mean, on mir-kiosk on gbm-kms
[10:38] <alan_g[m]> I don't expect that
[10:48] <Saviq> Works on Frame on the same setup
[10:57] <Saviq> But can reproduce on my laptop on mir-kiosk on gbm-kms
[10:58] <Saviq> Works on mir-kiosk on Mutter, though
[10:58] <Saviq> So… something output related maybe?
[10:58] <Saviq> But what'd be a relevant difference between mir-kiosk and Frame?
[10:58] <alan_g[m]> Weird. Will try to reproduce later.
[11:00] <Saviq> Full log is quite uninteresting:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/fdb038b66683e81d6a11a1a3ca15439d52644195)
[11:00] <Saviq> The Kodi crash log also has nothing interesting that I can see
[11:04] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/ubuntu-frame]** m2scared opened [issue #77](https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame/issues/77): Add documentation about how to use ubuntu-frame-osk... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/2b6ef7eab4d5acdac1eff1ef8b2d4d442d8f784f)
[11:38] <Saviq> @alan_g:matrix.org: from what I can gather, kodi stopped working after https://github.com/MirServer/mir/commit/a28e8cd376
[11:39] <Saviq> This one works:
[11:39] <Saviq> $ snap refresh mir-kiosk --revision 8607
[11:39] <Saviq> mir-kiosk 2.6.0+dev142-snap128 from Canonical✓ refreshed
[11:39] <Saviq> This one doesn't:
[11:39] <Saviq> $ snap refresh mir-kiosk --revision 8607
[11:39] <Saviq> mir-kiosk 2.6.0+dev142-snap128 from Canonical✓ refreshed
[11:40] <Saviq> Wait. That's the wrong commit.
[11:41] <Saviq> https://github.com/MirServer/mir/commit/2ad3b14b8a this is the one.
[11:42] <Saviq> s/8607/8620/, s/dev142/dev302/
[11:43] <Saviq> s/a28e8cd376/2ad3b14b8a/
[11:46] <alan_g[m]> That can't be?! Adding miroil?
[11:47] <Saviq> And yet…
[11:47] <Saviq> Maybe something else changed in the package at the same time…
[11:48] <alan_g[m]> A change to a dependency?
[11:50] <Saviq> https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/ubuntu/dev/+packages?field.name_filter=mir&field.series_filter=focal&field.status_filter=&batch=10&start=115
[11:50] <Saviq> I'll try and look through the manifest
[11:51] <alan_g[m]> Try rebuilding the "pre" commit?
[11:55] <Saviq> I have a slight feeling we've been through this rabbit hole before…... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/612f5c9824c129c05635b59c296f4c03d3608995)
[13:07] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/ubuntu-frame]** AlanGriffiths added question to [issue #77](https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame/issues/77): Add documentation about how to use ubuntu-frame-osk
[14:58] <Saviq> I moved the issue under `mir-kiosk-kodi` now that I've confirmed it's a "new Mesa" problem.
[14:59] <alan_g[m]> How did you confirm? Connect it to an old mesa-core20?
[14:59] <alan_g[m]> Actually, you could try even newer mesa: kisak-core20
[15:00] <Saviq> Connect it to a new mesa-core20
[15:00] <Saviq>   latest/stable:    21.0.3 2021-08-12  (95) 56MB -
[15:00] <Saviq>   latest/candidate: ↑
[15:00] <Saviq>   latest/beta:      21.2.6 2022-04-20 (120) 58MB -
[15:00] <Saviq>   latest/edge:      ↑
[15:01] <Saviq> While on `stable`, Kodi works on Frame, having switched to `beta`, same problem as mir-kiosk
[15:01] <alan_g[m]> Switching kodi, Frame or both?
[15:02] <Saviq> The snap, so both
[15:02] <Saviq> Can try parallel installs
[15:03] <Saviq> Same with kisak-core20
[15:04] <alan_g[m]> We should also track mesa more carefully. (Even if not promoting to stable has turned out to be the right thing)
[15:07] <Saviq> +1
[15:08] <Saviq> It's the server side that's problematic
[15:08] <Saviq> I can have `kisak-core20` for Kodi, but I need `mesa-core20/stable` for Frame
[15:10] <alan_g[m]> Interesting. That implies Mir's gbm-kms platform is triggering the problem
[15:12] <Saviq> Yup.
[15:13] <alan_g[m]> For debugging options: I can reproduce with Miriway/22.04
[15:14] <alan_g[m]> So we don't need the server snapped
[15:14] <alan_g[m]> So the bug probably belongs on MirServer/Mir
[15:18] <alan_g[m]> I'll try poking around once the sessions finish and have headspace. But this might be one for Chris
[15:36] <grayson-g[m]> Searching within the Mir repository on Github is crashing Brave, but I can search all of Github just fine?? wot
[17:05] <alan_g[m]> Saviq: that's EOD for me. I didn't solve it yet. Maybe RAOF will grok what's happening
[17:06] <Saviq> :ack:, I'm still here for another couple hours today… tonight o/
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[18:47] <Saviq> And me o/
[20:47] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [pull request #2516](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2516): Bump MirAL so to version 5 and MirAL version to 3.6
[20:47] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-  
[20:47] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > We need to bump MirAL .so for #2475. We can probably take this opportunity to do additional cleanup"