[09:54] <luna> how to tell apt in ubuntu to not upgrade a package?
[10:17] <luna> oh well too lazy to fight with that now, atleast Spotify still works on FreeBSD thats what i use the compat layer/jail for
[13:08] <P-NuT> Hey there guys!
[13:08] <P-NuT> I have a ubuntu router with 2 nics that I have enabled ip forwarding on with:   echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward.
[13:09] <P-NuT> But when I change it to a 0 to STOP ip forwarding, i can still send packets through it. 
[13:09] <P-NuT> It's like the 0 makes no difference. 
[13:32] <P-NuT> Ahh, hang on. Disregard. It's virtualbox's NAT networking..
[14:41] <foo> Does anyone have a favorite service that does something like pingdom?
[14:41] <foo> Need to check HTTP status
[14:47] <shubjero> foo: uptime robot?
[14:51] <RoyK> foo: I just use zabbix
[14:52] <foo> shubjero / RoyK -thank you!
[14:52] <shubjero> RoyK: we use zabbix too but we use uptime robot as like a 3rd party sanity check
[14:53] <shubjero> if zabbix goes down things get pretty quiet so its nice to have a backup check :)
[14:53] <shubjero> or maybe your zabbix server can reach whats being monitored but other stuff on the internet (like uptime robot) provide another look in terms of global reachability
[14:57] <RoyK> shubjero: look into web scenarios in zabbix - it's been there for some years
[14:58] <RoyK> that goes to foo as well :)
[14:58] <shubjero> royk: yeah we have hundreds
[14:58] <RoyK> shubjero: ok - large setup? ;);2~
[14:58] <shubjero> but hte problem still exists as zabbix as a single point of failure and or a global reachability problem compared to your zabbix's viewpoint
[14:58] <RoyK> shubjero: ok - large setup? ;)
[14:58] <RoyK> shubjero: that's a valid point
[14:58] <shubjero> the uptime robot is just complimentary for some edge cases
[14:59] <shubjero> but i love zabbix
[14:59] <RoyK> personally, I don't particularly love zabbix - some stuff is just too much hassle, but again, I don't know any good alternatives ;)
[15:01] <shubjero> yeah, steep learning curve and some things are cumbersome but ive literally never had zabbix server crash in 6 years of using it.. and the answer to "can zabbix monitor this?" is always yes
[15:01] <RoyK> shubjero: I started out using netsaint some >20 years back, then nagios, mrtg, munin, icinga, xymon/hobbit, and then zabbix and I think it works rather well now
[15:01] <shubjero> and free
[15:02] <shubjero> and you can pull pretty much everything from zabbix in to grafana for other parts of your team to consume without overwhelming them with zabbix's poor UI
[15:02] <RoyK> I know - we use both
[15:07] <ahasenack> coreycb: hi, are we still in trouble regarding openstack and the new django in kinetic? Do you know if there is work in progress upstream to support this new django?
[15:22] <coreycb> ahasenack: I think we are good. I've been submitting patches upstream this week.
[15:22] <coreycb> still some more work todo but getting there.
[15:22] <ahasenack> nice
[15:23] <tomreyn> foo: also prometheus + grafana
[15:26] <tomreyn> foo: for more SaaS / remote monitoring services: freshping, statuscake
[16:49] <foo> tomreyn: thank you! Looking for something I can get set up quickly in the short-term, will move to something more involved later
[16:54] <tomreyn> foo: freshping does 50 checks against not just http at 1 minute intervals from 10 locations for free - it won't get better for free.
[18:49] <foo> tomreyn: thakn you!
[20:46] <foo> tomreyn: just signed up, thank you. This will do until I script something myself and stick it on a few different systems.
[21:19] <tomreyn> foo: glad i could help.