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IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Okay01:36
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> I just knowed the super button01:37
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> But not the meta, thanks01:37
DrazurGreetings. I have an issue when trying to install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS from Live USB. I have an old motherboard with legacy BIOS (no UEFI), but after choosing the partitions I got a "No EFI system partition was found" message.02:59
IrcsomeBot<Oov> Microsoft button on the left (re @Oskar: What is meta button?)02:59
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DrazurGreetings. I have an old PC with legacy BIOS (no UEFI). When I'm choosing the partitions on the Kubuntu 22.04 installer, I get this warning:03:54
DrazurNo EFI System Partition was found. This system will likely not be able to boot successfully, and the installation process may fail.03:54
guivercDrazur, a warning about no ESP being partitions can be ignored on a BIOS/legacy box.. is the message you're getting from the installer (if so ignore it), or a post-install, post-boot error message?04:30
guivercDrazur, I wrote an answer here long ago; it maybe helpful - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1273421/lubuntu-installer-giving-error-after-partition-creation-your-system-may-or-may04:32
guivercThe message from the installer is a WARNING only, not an error (yeah a number of people read it as an error though & there is a bug about changing the wording so it's less confusing for end-users)04:32
DrazurIt is a message I'm getting from the installer, on the menu where I choose how to format (or not) the partitions, guiverc.04:32
guivercthat askubu won't help much; a quick search found it, there is a better one but I'm not going to look for it sorry04:34
guivercIf your system is using uEFI or Secure-uEFI then the message really matters; I QA-test with old BIOS boxes & just ignore it as it doesn't apply (they don't know what to do with ESP/efi system partition even if present)04:35
DrazurDon't worry. I'm tired of looking at askubuntu too, haha. So, nothing bad will happen if I just continue the instalation, ignoring that no EFI warning, right, guiverc?04:35
DrazurMy motherboard has no UEFI nor Secure Boot. I bought it in 2011, lol.04:36
guivercYep...   I'm saying if your box is BIOS (not uEFI) it'll boot if MBR or boot-loader is written to correct drive04:36
guivercI check to ensure the MBR or boot loader is written to correct drive, I'm writing to correct drive/partitions in summary screen; uEFI doesn't matter on pre-uEFI boxes04:37
DrazurIt's a relief to know that. I've made the same partition setup in previous LTS versions of Kubuntu, and this is the first time I got an EFI warning.04:38
DrazurI will give it a try.04:39
guivercthe message has been there a number of releases, but I forget when it was added, and it's more obvious on some releases than others; the post I mention it was 20.04 but I think it was introduced in 2019 but I forget04:41
DrazurI don't remember getting this warning with 20.04, but it was 2 years ago. I don't remember very well.04:43
alkisgDrazur: it's as you say; to fix it, participate in my bug report there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/195167406:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1951674 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Incorrectly warns 'No EFI System Partition was found' on BIOS/MBR" [Undecided, Confirmed]06:25
IrcsomeBot<npeippo> Any tips for this? (re @npeippo: Looks like Firefox's default keyboard shortcut for jumping to a certain tab is ALT+number. I'm used to ^+number from Windows, is it possible to change? Couldn't find from ffox's own settings.)09:58
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Thought it alt gr (re @Oov: Microsoft button on the left)12:42
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Super button is at my pc windows button12:42
IrcsomeBot<Oov> Same (re @Oskar: Super button is at my pc windows button)12:49
IrcsomeBot<Oskar> Ok how?12:49
oerhekssuper = windows, Altgr = meta..14:23
oerheks2 different things, bing it?14:23
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mybalzitchthis "backups" software is just terrible14:55
mybalzitchdeja dup14:55
mybalzitchoh, you want an error message on why the storage isn't available? Nope. ok/cancel buttons? Nope. LOGGING?! Definitely nope.14:59
IrcsomeBot<npeippo> Which TeamViewer type of an program would you suggest for Kubuntu?15:00
IrcsomeBot<npeippo> Something to easily control my computer with my phone15:00
cbreaknpeippo: I have an ssh client on my phone15:20
cbreakand kde connect can give remote input to some degree (but without screen replay)15:21
cbreakyou might be searching for a VNC style software?15:21
user|29I need a 32 bit version of kubuntu15:36
oerheksKubuntu 18.04 LTS was the last Kubuntu with i386 (x86 32-bit) support.15:38
oerhekshttps://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/18.04/release/15:39
cbreakuser|29: x86?16:03
oerheksoh 18.04 must be EOL now too ..16:06
cbreakoerheks: doesn't it have 1 more year?16:08
cbreakhmm...16:08
cbreakhttps://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle16:08
cbreakseems to have a lot of life left, if you're prepared to pay :D16:08
oerheksesm can be used private, for free.. but do you want such old system16:09
cbreakI'll be on 22.10 in a few months :D16:10
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> 22.04 works like a charm, with a little of bugs but they are not worth to talk about except the steam deleting all bug (re @IrcsomeBot: <cbreak> I'll be on 22.10 in a few months :D)16:11
cbreakit's too bad ubuntu's installer is junk16:11
cbreakbut now that I set my system up myself, I can just fork the zfs dataset with ubuntu, install new versions on it, upgrade16:11
cbreakand if I don't like it, just go back to an earlier clone16:11
cbreakoski146: early 22.04 had some stupid zfs related issues, so I was hessitant to upgrade16:12
oerhekswe still need humans to fix bugs16:12
cbreakyeah. Luckily16:13
oerhekssorry for that16:13
cbreakI'd be out of a job out of that if AI could write proper code :D16:13
cbreakhmm... wonder what 22.10 will be called.16:14
cbreak"Kinetic Kudu"16:15
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> or klumsy klown16:43
cbreak"Kompletely KDE"17:00
oerheksking kong would have been nice17:01
cbreakking's not an adjective though :(17:12
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> Kingley kong17:32
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> 😂17:33
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> /names17:33
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> /names17:33
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> /language@join_captcha_bot17:33
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> Why the slash commands not working19:27
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> /commands@join_captcha_bot19:27
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> /about@join_captcha_bot19:28
cbreakhmm... does kubuntu not support changing the date format to ISO standard date format?19:35
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> I want to know, if i can kount iso images for wine, without using gcdemu20:43
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> Mount*20:43
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> In cli would be great or another fast solotion, in dolphin20:44
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> Itwould be great fast solution for mounting  in dolphin20:46
IrcsomeBot<Oski146> And how to remove cdemu completly20:50
bluejaypophello, I'm trying to upgrade from 21.04 to 22.04 but is not possible according to this link :  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/73034540/an-upgrade-from-hirsute-to-jammy-is-not-supported-with-this-tool the problem is that I cannot upgrade, it marks error, what should I do on this?22:04
oerheks!eolupgrade22:04
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:04
oerhekssee the EOLupgrade url, add old version to the sources address..22:05
oerheksthere is 1 server as backup.22:05
bluejaypopoerheks, yes, but what are the source address? I need o upgrade first to 21.10 and then 22.04 afaik22:08
cbreakbluejaypop: is reinstalling not an option?22:27
cbreakbluejaypop: read the link the ubottu bot gave you, the last one has the info22:28
oerheksyes, through 21.10 to 22.0422:33
oerheksthat is, with the -d option,22:33
oski146hello i want to know if kubuntu has support for fingerprint sensors23:17
oski146and if my sensors are supported23:18
IrcsomeBot<npeippo> Yeah, I have that working (re @IrcsomeBot: <cbreak> and kde connect can give remote input to some degree (but without screen replay))23:21
IrcsomeBot<npeippo> But I need the screen to show on my phone, as with TeamViewer. I know TV is available for Linux, but I thought to ask if there are better alternatives to try :)23:22
oski146how can i install support for fingerprint? plasma 5.24 should support it i have read but dont find anything23:22
oerheksfingerprint is possible, on supported devices https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html and https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui23:24
oerheksthat ppa is old, there are only a few more device ids23:25
oski146how to find out which fp sensor i have23:28
oski146fprint says no such devices23:28
oski146i installed from repositories23:29
oski146https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237451/using-fingerprint-reader-in-kubuntu-20-04-on-thinkpad-t49523:30
oerhekslsusb, or lspci23:32
oski146i did and searched for it and it gives me this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libfprint/wiki/-/wikis/Devices/27c6:511023:34
oski146what means work in progress there?23:34
oerheksnot working yet23:35
oski146ok so i dive  into the disord there and ask whtas going on thank you here23:37

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