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[02:59] <Drazur> Greetings. I have an issue when trying to install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS from Live USB. I have an old motherboard with legacy BIOS (no UEFI), but after choosing the partitions I got a "No EFI system partition was found" message.
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[03:54] <Drazur> Greetings. I have an old PC with legacy BIOS (no UEFI). When I'm choosing the partitions on the Kubuntu 22.04 installer, I get this warning:
[03:54] <Drazur> No EFI System Partition was found. This system will likely not be able to boot successfully, and the installation process may fail.
[04:30] <guiverc> Drazur, a warning about no ESP being partitions can be ignored on a BIOS/legacy box.. is the message you're getting from the installer (if so ignore it), or a post-install, post-boot error message?
[04:32] <guiverc> Drazur, I wrote an answer here long ago; it maybe helpful - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1273421/lubuntu-installer-giving-error-after-partition-creation-your-system-may-or-may
[04:32] <guiverc> The message from the installer is a WARNING only, not an error (yeah a number of people read it as an error though & there is a bug about changing the wording so it's less confusing for end-users)
[04:32] <Drazur> It is a message I'm getting from the installer, on the menu where I choose how to format (or not) the partitions, guiverc.
[04:34] <guiverc> that askubu won't help much; a quick search found it, there is a better one but I'm not going to look for it sorry
[04:35] <guiverc> If your system is using uEFI or Secure-uEFI then the message really matters; I QA-test with old BIOS boxes & just ignore it as it doesn't apply (they don't know what to do with ESP/efi system partition even if present)
[04:35] <Drazur> Don't worry. I'm tired of looking at askubuntu too, haha. So, nothing bad will happen if I just continue the instalation, ignoring that no EFI warning, right, guiverc?
[04:36] <Drazur> My motherboard has no UEFI nor Secure Boot. I bought it in 2011, lol.
[04:36] <guiverc> Yep...   I'm saying if your box is BIOS (not uEFI) it'll boot if MBR or boot-loader is written to correct drive
[04:37] <guiverc> I check to ensure the MBR or boot loader is written to correct drive, I'm writing to correct drive/partitions in summary screen; uEFI doesn't matter on pre-uEFI boxes
[04:38] <Drazur> It's a relief to know that. I've made the same partition setup in previous LTS versions of Kubuntu, and this is the first time I got an EFI warning.
[04:39] <Drazur> I will give it a try.
[04:41] <guiverc> the message has been there a number of releases, but I forget when it was added, and it's more obvious on some releases than others; the post I mention it was 20.04 but I think it was introduced in 2019 but I forget
[04:43] <Drazur> I don't remember getting this warning with 20.04, but it was 2 years ago. I don't remember very well.
[06:25] <alkisg> Drazur: it's as you say; to fix it, participate in my bug report there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1951674
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[14:23] <oerheks> super = windows, Altgr = meta..
[14:23] <oerheks> 2 different things, bing it?
[14:55] <mybalzitch> this "backups" software is just terrible
[14:55] <mybalzitch> deja dup
[14:59] <mybalzitch> oh, you want an error message on why the storage isn't available? Nope. ok/cancel buttons? Nope. LOGGING?! Definitely nope.
 Which TeamViewer type of an program would you suggest for Kubuntu?
 Something to easily control my computer with my phone
[15:20] <cbreak> npeippo: I have an ssh client on my phone
[15:21] <cbreak> and kde connect can give remote input to some degree (but without screen replay)
[15:21] <cbreak> you might be searching for a VNC style software?
[15:36] <user|29> I need a 32 bit version of kubuntu
[15:38] <oerheks> Kubuntu 18.04 LTS was the last Kubuntu with i386 (x86 32-bit) support.
[15:39] <oerheks> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/18.04/release/
[16:03] <cbreak> user|29: x86?
[16:06] <oerheks> oh 18.04 must be EOL now too ..
[16:08] <cbreak> oerheks: doesn't it have 1 more year?
[16:08] <cbreak> hmm...
[16:08] <cbreak> https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[16:08] <cbreak> seems to have a lot of life left, if you're prepared to pay :D
[16:09] <oerheks> esm can be used private, for free.. but do you want such old system
[16:10] <cbreak> I'll be on 22.10 in a few months :D
 22.04 works like a charm, with a little of bugs but they are not worth to talk about except the steam deleting all bug (re @IrcsomeBot: <cbreak> I'll be on 22.10 in a few months :D)
[16:11] <cbreak> it's too bad ubuntu's installer is junk
[16:11] <cbreak> but now that I set my system up myself, I can just fork the zfs dataset with ubuntu, install new versions on it, upgrade
[16:11] <cbreak> and if I don't like it, just go back to an earlier clone
[16:12] <cbreak> oski146: early 22.04 had some stupid zfs related issues, so I was hessitant to upgrade
[16:12] <oerheks> we still need humans to fix bugs
[16:13] <cbreak> yeah. Luckily
[16:13] <oerheks> sorry for that
[16:13] <cbreak> I'd be out of a job out of that if AI could write proper code :D
[16:14] <cbreak> hmm... wonder what 22.10 will be called.
[16:15] <cbreak> "Kinetic Kudu"
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[17:00] <cbreak> "Kompletely KDE"
[17:01] <oerheks> king kong would have been nice
[17:12] <cbreak> king's not an adjective though :(
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 /language@join_captcha_bot
 Why the slash commands not working
 /commands@join_captcha_bot
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[19:35] <cbreak> hmm... does kubuntu not support changing the date format to ISO standard date format?
 I want to know, if i can kount iso images for wine, without using gcdemu
 Mount*
 In cli would be great or another fast solotion, in dolphin
 Itwould be great fast solution for mounting  in dolphin
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[22:04] <bluejaypop> hello, I'm trying to upgrade from 21.04 to 22.04 but is not possible according to this link :  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/73034540/an-upgrade-from-hirsute-to-jammy-is-not-supported-with-this-tool the problem is that I cannot upgrade, it marks error, what should I do on this?
[22:04] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[22:05] <oerheks> see the EOLupgrade url, add old version to the sources address..
[22:05] <oerheks> there is 1 server as backup.
[22:08] <bluejaypop> oerheks, yes, but what are the source address? I need o upgrade first to 21.10 and then 22.04 afaik
[22:27] <cbreak> bluejaypop: is reinstalling not an option?
[22:28] <cbreak> bluejaypop: read the link the ubottu bot gave you, the last one has the info
[22:33] <oerheks> yes, through 21.10 to 22.04
[22:33] <oerheks> that is, with the -d option,
[23:17] <oski146> hello i want to know if kubuntu has support for fingerprint sensors
[23:18] <oski146> and if my sensors are supported
 Yeah, I have that working (re @IrcsomeBot: <cbreak> and kde connect can give remote input to some degree (but without screen replay))
 But I need the screen to show on my phone, as with TeamViewer. I know TV is available for Linux, but I thought to ask if there are better alternatives to try :)
[23:22] <oski146> how can i install support for fingerprint? plasma 5.24 should support it i have read but dont find anything
[23:24] <oerheks> fingerprint is possible, on supported devices https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html and https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui
[23:25] <oerheks> that ppa is old, there are only a few more device ids
[23:28] <oski146> how to find out which fp sensor i have
[23:28] <oski146> fprint says no such devices
[23:29] <oski146> i installed from repositories
[23:30] <oski146> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237451/using-fingerprint-reader-in-kubuntu-20-04-on-thinkpad-t495
[23:32] <oerheks> lsusb, or lspci
[23:34] <oski146> i did and searched for it and it gives me this https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libfprint/wiki/-/wikis/Devices/27c6:5110
[23:34] <oski146> what means work in progress there?
[23:35] <oerheks> not working yet
[23:37] <oski146> ok so i dive  into the disord there and ask whtas going on thank you here