[18:41] <daftykins> well we made it, another weekend
[18:41] <daftykins> only i've still been busy, just with chores D:
[18:42] <zxmpi> my titan pocket has arrived. i am currently degoogling it :-)
[18:46] <daftykins> sounds like a rather funny-type hat thing to do!
[18:47] <zxmpi> google assistant can bugger well off i will never ever use it
[18:49] <daftykins> i don't touch the thing either, but trivial to disable
[18:49] <zxmpi> part of the fingerprint reader on the titan
[18:50] <zxmpi> seems different on every android/kaios device i have
[18:53] <daftykins> when Google replaced "Pay" with "Wallet" recently, it took my reg'd card off D: i got tricked in a shop
[18:54] <zxmpi> i'm sure they told you in page 272 of the eula :-/
[18:54] <daftykins> there was an email about the app change, i noticed it myself prior to that too... didn't expect the card to need redoing though
[18:55] <davef> that pay to wallet thing took me by surprise.. I went looking for Pay in a shop and couldn't find it. 
[18:56] <zxmpi> i remember seeing it a few years back when it first came out but haven't seen it much since
[18:58] <zxmpi> irelands biggest bank announced that it was gonna make 1/3 of it's branches cashless. cue uproar and a promise we won't be doing that anytime soon.
[19:17] <daftykins> wowzer, i wouldn't normally understand the desire to keep cash - although it was pointed out to me that a lot of immigrants can't get bank accounts in the US and Canada
[19:18] <daftykins> novel one yesterday, lots of clients use 'worldpay' for their credit card machine provider, they had called up a client trying to get them to run through a script to meet compliance and be signed off for another year's operation
[19:19] <daftykins> the set of questions was pretty trivial, although i discovered they needed a network diagram on file and document speaking of open ports etc at their router
[19:20] <zxmpi> about 40% of transactions in rural areas are cash. not much in the way of broadband in some places for epayments either
[19:21] <zxmpi> still see where even big stores in dublin have electronic payments down. that's a lot of business lost due to a wonky phone/cable
[19:22] <zxmpi> i wonder how often they check to see if the network diagram on file is updated. says here your zyxel 1mb internet connection ap :-)
[19:22] <daftykins> heh
[19:22] <daftykins> well i will be maintaining it so that's free annual money!
[19:23] <zxmpi> 1 onsite visit, expenses lunch. :-)
[19:24] <zxmpi> bonus if they have great ac to time it for hot summer days to spend in a server room
[19:28] <daftykins> standard small biz where an office was redone, condition of the IT equipment was ignored and WAF was for some reason paramount despite her being the worst employee i've ever encountered
[19:28] <daftykins> so, heater immediately beside her seat, no air con!
[19:31]  * zxmpi hands daftykins a 1euro fan i keep in my bag for these occasions
[19:34] <daftykins> heh
[19:34] <zxmpi> worth it's weight in gold pressed latinum in a hot server room on a summer day
[19:35] <daftykins> in fairness those folks just have the wall cabinet with a tiny switch, IP camera NVR and NAS
[20:16] <daftykins> hmm seems like i didn't share in here the second dental surgery i visited in the middle of the week, they want to escape the £££ local IT company that are charging them a fortune
[20:16] <daftykins> sadly i went to look and they're deeply entrenched with a Windows domain etc
[20:17] <daftykins> no logins known to their own kit to keep the existing company in biz, very nasty
[20:17] <penguin42> ouch
[20:19] <daftykins> the practice guy was very keen to jump ship ASAP so he was trying to take down a shopping list of items to ask the old provider for, i had to say whoa - slow down, it's not going to be that easy!
[20:20] <daftykins> then i went to look at their server, an old tower form factor Dell T430 (only 1 year newer than that one i got given a while back) with premium drives in, utterly caked in dust and no room to breathe at the rear
[20:24] <zxmpi> at least moving it a few inches will give it some space to breath after a good scraping
[20:26] <penguin42> daftykins: Tell him to suggest he's been told he needs a disaster recovery set, and to make sure he has all the passwords
[20:28] <daftykins> i suggested a few little white lies to get logins but he didn't seem keen, wanted to just jump ship fully
[20:29] <penguin42> tricky
[20:30] <daftykins> the problem with their trade is that the software developers of the dental practice software need to be on hand to 'bless' newly configured servers, you can't do it all yourself, so it has to wait for an appointment with them on weekdays
[20:30] <daftykins> this of course clashes with the opening hours of the place, so you have to get them to agree to downtime
[20:32] <penguin42> daftykins: sounds fun for recovery problems
[20:32] <daftykins> :D
[20:32] <daftykins> the first guys i have been dealing with, i did a server reinstall outside of hours onto new drives then swapped back until the appointment was scheduled, wherein the company promptly forgot all about me xD 
[20:36] <penguin42> I geuss all your stuff is higher level basic IT stuff, never come across any lower level problems that need code fixing?
[20:40] <daftykins> well MS did seem to have an update back in April which killed the developer's MS Word integration xD
[20:40] <daftykins> current advice: roll back and keep the office suite pinned to that date
[20:41] <daftykins> i had only just been asked about it by the first practice owner, so implemented it... other guy is unable to do it as he doesn't have admin rights of course
[22:07] <daftykins> well time for bed, g'night all \o
[22:10] <zxmpi> o/
[22:19] <davef> rest well good sir