=== william is now known as Willy-- [11:55] Hi everyone, I’m trying to install Kubuntu on dual booting on my laptop Samsung Galaxy Book S (intel i5 Lakefield) but I’m having some trouble with that. I also read that a lot of people in internet have the same problems. [11:55] When i start Kubuntu 22.04 LTS from my flash pendrive it opens the installer, but Linux doesn’t recognize my keaboard and my trackpad. I thought it was a driver problem thus i used usb mouse and it worked (haven’t tried a usb keyboard yet). Anyway when i go through the installation it usually crashes and when not and i can reach the point of choosing the partition of memory (i reserved 24 GB because although my computer has 50 GB o [11:55] I wish you could help me and sorry for my english, I’m italian. In case something is not clear, tell me. [11:55] Thanks. [11:58] I also read that the problem of not showing partition can be related with the SATA mode, but the bios of this orrible computer doesn’t let me change the SATA settings (from RAID to AHCI for example). I don’t even know if the SATA is RAID or AHCI because i can’t see that. [11:59] Hi everyone, I’m trying to install Kubuntu on dual booting on my laptop Samsung Galaxy Book S (intel i5 Lakefield) but I’m having some trouble with that. I also read that a lot of people in internet have the same problems. [11:59] When i start Kubuntu 22.04 LTS from my flash pendrive it opens the installer, but Linux doesn’t recognize my keyboard and my trackpad. I thought it was a driver problem thus i used usb mouse and it worked (haven’t tried a usb keyboard yet). Anyway when i go through the installation it usually crashes and when not and i can reach the point of choosing the partition of memory (i reserved 24 GB because although my computer has 50 GB o [11:59] I wish you could help me and sorry for my english, I’m italian. In case something is not clear, tell me. [11:59] Thanks. [12:02] (I tried also Mint and Ubuntu and they had same problems… But I’d like to use Kubuntu if i could choose) [12:03] hi [12:03] how mach space i need for kubuntu ? [12:03] 250 gb all [12:04] 50 gb for /; 4 gb for swap; 200 gb for home ? [12:08] or 100gb for / ? [12:43] Hi all [13:24] Hi everyone, I’m trying to install Kubuntu on dual booting on my laptop Samsung Galaxy Book S (intel i5 Lakefield) but I’m having some trouble with that. I also read that a lot of people in internet have the same problems. [13:24] When i start Kubuntu 22.04 LTS from my flash pendrive it opens the installer, but Linux doesn’t recognize my keyboard and my trackpad. I thought it was a driver problem thus i used usb mouse and it worked (haven’t tried a usb keyboard yet). Anyway when i go through the installation it usually crashes and when not and i can reach the point of choosing the partition of memory (i reserved 60 GB) it doesn’t show me the partition. [13:24] I wish you could help me and sorry for my english, I’m italian. In case something is not clear, tell me. [13:24] Thanks. [14:30] @I_it_depends_I Can you boot into "Try Kubuntu", then open the partition manager (probably "KDE Partition Manager") and send a screenshot? (You can upload a screenshot to Imgur and then send the link here.) [14:31] Nope, I can’t, i tried to “Try Kubuntu” but it crashes (re @IrcsomeBot: @I_it_depends_I Can you boot into "Try Kubuntu", then open the partition manager (probably "KDE Partition Manager") and send a screenshot? (You can upload a screenshot to Imgur and then send the link here.)) [14:32] @I_it_depends_I: Hmm. Is the a "Safe Graphics Mode" option you can boot to in Kubuntu? [14:32] Tried, crashes [14:32] Think it’s a problem of samsung because every distro crashes [14:33] I’m surrending [14:34] Well hold on don't give up quite yet. [14:34] @I_it_depends_I: OK, so do this. Boot the laptop so that you get to the installer screen, then press Ctrl+Alt+F3. [14:35] keyboard doesn’t work, i need to buy a usb-one, i’ll try when i’ll got that [14:35] keyboard doesn’t work, i need to buy a usb-one, i’ll try when I got that, Thanks [14:36] OK. Sorry that it's not working, that's sad. [14:37] It’s not kubuntu fault… It’s the terrible computer the actual problem [14:40] @I_it_depends_I: While I hate to recommend you try a different distro, you might give Fedora Rawhide a try - I saw a report that it was able to detect the keyboard and mouse. [14:42] Thank you so much! I’m also trying linux mint Cinnamon edge for the same reason… I’ll try that also. The fact is that i don’t like so much Mint… I’ll wait that Kubuntu implements the things necessary to make this work. Thanks [14:43] maybe Fedora at least is better than Mint [14:43] Fedora Rawhide isn't exactly stable, but if it works, we may have a solution for getting Kubuntu to work. [14:44] Don't install it, just boot from the USB, verify that you can use the keyboard and touchpad, and see if you can see the internal storage with the partition manager. If all of those things are true, there's a good chance we can get this working. [14:45] @I_it_depends_I: There's ways of getting newer drivers onto Kubuntu, namely to install a mainline kernel. [14:45] The tricky part is getting the install to work in the first place, but a preinstalled image should do the trick there. [14:46] Well, nice, give me necessary time to download Fedora Rawhide [14:46] 👍️ [15:05] Can you please send me a link from where download that, because there are so much i don’t know which is the right one (re @IrcsomeBot: 👍️) [15:08] https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Workstation/x86_64/iso/ [15:08] I’m downloading this one [15:10] That looks right to me. [15:32] It works! the touchpad [15:33] “Try fedora”? [15:35] It works! the touchpad and keyboard [15:42] Install Fedora or Try it? (re @IrcsomeBot: That looks right to me.) [15:44] Another question: 60GB are enough? [15:49] Try Fedora. [15:49] (Sorry for my slow response.) [15:49] @I_it_depends_I: ^ [15:49] How can I see partition? [15:50] @I_it_depends_I: Look for either GParted or KDE Partition Manager in the included apps. [15:52] If you mean to search these apps in activities i don’t find anything [15:52] I havent permission to share photos [15:53] OK, can you find "Disks"? [15:53] I found an app called Disks and it shows me [15:53] Yes (re @IrcsomeBot: OK, can you find "Disks"?) [15:53] That's another app name. [15:53] Nice. OK, can you see your partitions from there? [15:54] But share me something but not the partition [15:54] But shoe me something but not the partition [15:54] But shows me something but not the partition [15:54] Hmm... crud. Are there multiple disks in the left menu? [15:54] Yes included the pendrive [15:55] And your main drive doesn't seem to have any partitions? [15:55] Can you open the file manager and see the files that are on your main drive? [15:56] I would share a photo if u can give me permission [15:56] Because i’m not so pratical [15:57] It shows me some partition but not that i’ve created [15:58] @I_it_depends_I: Yeah, sharing a photo would be fine, just take a picture with your phone, upload it to Imgur, and send the link. [15:58] It sounds like it might work. [15:59] k, i’m doing [16:01] https://imgur.com/a/KumWfnD [16:03] I don’t know what is that last partition of 34 GB, never seen [16:04] What's that topmost drive that says "Drive" look like? [16:05] Each entry in the list on the left is a physical drive, the partitions would appear inside it. [16:05] It gives me no information [16:05] Also, how large is the entire internal drive in Windows? [16:05] Ah well now i understand (re @IrcsomeBot: Also, how large is the entire internal drive in Windows?) [16:06] i’m sending a photo about that “Drive” [16:06] Crud. Sounds like the Linux kernel still doesn't support Samsung's weird flash chip here. [16:06] https://imgur.com/a/4oJViSS [16:07] Yep, that's what I was afraid of. [16:07] Well, at this point it looks like installing Linux to the internal drive is out of the question AFAICT. Do you have a second USB drive that you could install it to so you can just run Linux from there? [16:08] I would like to install on that pendrive 64 GB [16:08] But idk if it’s possible (it’s the flash pendrive) [16:08] Yeah, you can easily install on the flash pendrive. [16:08] Maybe partitioning the pendrive? [16:08] Ah nice (re @IrcsomeBot: Yeah, you can easily install on the flash pendrive.) [16:09] You will need to boot the installer from a different pendrive in order to do that, though. [16:09] So if you have some 8 GB drive or some such laying around, flash an ISO to that, then boot from that and install Linux on the 64 GB drive. [16:09] And, will it be much slower respect to the direct installation on pc? [16:09] i’m doing that (re @IrcsomeBot: So if you have some 8 GB drive or some such laying around, flash an ISO to that, then boot from that and install Linux on the 64 GB drive.) [16:10] Depends on the USB drive. I've used Linux very comfortably from a USB drive before, even with a slow one. [16:12] If everything works perfectly here, we *can* try to make Kubuntu work next, since Rawhide is... not exactly what you would call "stable", but if you like how everything works once the install is done, you could just call it a day and use Fedora instead of Ubuntu. [16:35] So can someone tell me what the problem is with android phones not working when connecting with USB? And how to fix it ideally? [16:36] Did you try what I said yesterday and still having issues? [16:37] I may have left before I got a response [16:37] I'd appreciate if you repeat it [16:38] Nothing amazing or anything, I just suggested using a USB2 port (not USB3) and the shortest cable you have. [16:38] usb3 ports can be flakey, and longer cables are less reliable [16:38] usb3 ports can be flakey with android i mean [16:38] I have to double check I even have an USB2 port [16:39] Yep, they're all USB 3 [16:39] Great Scott! [16:39] hmm I do have an internal USB2 hub though, gimme a moment [16:40] yeah its an Asus ROG Strix X570-E, fairly high end so they omit the usual 2x USB2 [16:42] hmm nope, it seems to be much the same [16:42] on the USB2 port [16:43] That's disappointing, woulda be good if that resolved it. But I have no other ideas. [16:44] It's been this way on every KDE and every phone as long as I can remember, the connection being extremely flaky after a fresh boot and afterwards just plain not working anymore [16:46] As I dual boot I can just boot into windows to dump my anime collection (as far as you know) onto my phone [16:46] where it works solidly, so I also know it's not the hardware [16:46] But given that this issue has persisted over many computers and phones I wonder [16:47] You could try a wireless alternative. [16:47] I once had my phone set up with and ftp server. And whenever it was on my local network, it would appear as a shortcut on my pc automatically. [16:48] I suppose, but then I'd have to enable the wireless on the PC to make them be in the same network [16:48] It's worth a shot I suppose [16:48] gotta reboot because I disabled that in UEFI [16:50] ok now I gotta figure out how to direct connect the phone to the PC [16:58] ok I can now send files through kde connect [16:59] it's v. slow and makes me think about getting a 5ghz access point [17:02] Well, i did it (re @IrcsomeBot: If everything works perfectly here, we *can* try to make Kubuntu work next, since Rawhide is... not exactly what you would call "stable", but if you like how everything works once the install is done, you could just call it a day and use Fedora instead of Ubuntu.) [17:03] now i have the pendrive flash and the pendrive empty in the computer [17:03] what have i to do now? [17:05] By the way i don’t know how to thank you [17:05] Many thanks [17:09] now i have the pendrive flash and the empty pendrive in the computer [17:11] Boot from one, install to the other. [17:12] Fedora? [17:16] Haven’t i to do nothing about Kubuntu? [17:17] Haven’t i to do anything about Kubuntu? [17:21] https://imgur.com/a/v9zAG4G [17:21] and what should i do here [17:21] During installation === zach_ is now known as zach__ [17:45] Hello.Does Kubuntu not have a language switcher? I mean, as in Ubuntu, the gui to install the language relative packages.This feature in the image does not work! : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/2046d115/file_58470.jpg [17:53] I tried to use Fedora but i noted that audio doesnt work, is it normal? (re @I_it_depends_I: Fedora?) [17:57] I wanted also ask between a pendrive and a micro sd which js better (re @IrcsomeBot: If everything works perfectly here, we *can* try to make Kubuntu work next, since Rawhide is... not exactly what you would call "stable", but if you like how everything works once the install is done, you could just call it a day and use Fedora instead of Ubuntu.) [17:57] I wanted also to ask between a pendrive and a micro sd which js better (re @IrcsomeBot: If everything works perfectly here, we *can* try to make Kubuntu work next, since Rawhide is... not exactly what you would call "stable", but if you like how everything works once the install is done, you could just call it a day and use Fedora instead of Ubuntu.) === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life [18:11] I had to install gnome-language-selector ! 😕 [20:06] @I_it_depends_I: Sorry I was gone long. [20:06] I’m here [20:07] @I_it_depends_I: Either one should work equally well, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd go for the USB drive. [20:07] @I_it_depends_I: Preferably a new one, since older drives can be less reliable. [20:07] Okay (re @IrcsomeBot: @I_it_depends_I: Either one should work equally well, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd go for the USB drive.) [20:07] It’s new, 2022 pendrive (re @IrcsomeBot: @I_it_depends_I: Preferably a new one, since older drives can be less reliable.) [20:08] @I_it_depends_I: You should be able to just launch the installer and select your 64 GB USB drive during installation. [20:09] @I_it_depends_I: Automatic installation should work, I'd enable encryption if you feel you can remember a strong password and are taking the computer into potentially unsafe areas. [20:09] Okay [20:09] Look at this (re @I_it_depends_I: https://imgur.com/a/v9zAG4G) [20:09] “specialized and network disks” [20:10] Just check the encryption box and then click Next. You can try looking for specialized disks just in case, but I doubt it will work. [20:10] It says that there’s some problem [20:10] i’m sending photo [20:13] https://imgur.com/a/suEI2Pe [20:14] Click "Reclaim Space". [20:15] https://imgur.com/a/dcCR41O [20:15] it’s the correct pendrive [20:15] “delete”? [20:16] @I_it_depends_I: So long as you're OK with losing everything on the pendrive, yes, delete. "Delete All" should do the trick. [20:16] K, done, it’s installing [20:17] 👍️ [20:17] After installation what do I have to do? [20:18] It depends. If you want Kubuntu and not Fedora, the next step is to make a Kubuntu virtual machine with a raw disk image, then install a mainline kernel in it, and then flash that preinstalled image onto your USB drive (I'm happy to walk you through that). If you'd rather just be happy that you have a Linux distro on your system and want to stick with Fedora despite its lack of stability, you're done. [20:18] (The next step after installation, I mean.) [20:19] (Also Fedora isn't unstable per se, it's Fedora Rawhide that's unstable, but it was pretty much our only easy option since it had a new enough kernel.) [20:21] Well, i’m choosing the first one (Kubuntu) (re @IrcsomeBot: It depends. If you want Kubuntu and not Fedora, the next step is to make a Kubuntu virtual machine with a raw disk image, then install a mainline kernel in it, and then flash that preinstalled image onto your USB drive (I'm happy to walk you through that). If you'd rather just be happy that you have a Linux distro on your system and want to stick with Fedora [20:22] Nice, sounds fun. [20:27] Yep, I’m gonna write here when the installation is completed [20:42] Done [20:44] @I_it_depends_I: Nice. Next step should be to fully update the system (it probably won't be much to update since you're on Rawhide, but it's good to do so just in case). One moment while I find the command... [20:45] @I_it_depends_I: OK, open a terminal and run "sudo dnf upgrade". [20:45] (You'll probably be asked for a password when you do this.) [20:48] Done [20:49] Now it’s done i think [20:49] Now it’s done [20:50] @I_it_depends_I: OK, next command is "sudo dnf install qemu -y". [20:53] Done [20:54] @I_it_depends_I: OK, run "qemu-system-x86_64" and tell me if a window pops up with some weird text in it. [20:55] Yes it does [20:55] @I_it_depends_I: If so, close the window, and download a Kubuntu 22.04 ISO file. [20:56] From mozilla? [20:56] @I_it_depends_I: I'll send a link, just use Firefox to do the download. [20:56] https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ [20:57] 22.04 LTS? [20:57] Yep. [20:58] K, think that it’ll need about 15 min [20:59] K, think that it needs about 15 min [21:12] Finished [21:17] OK, one moment... [21:17] Run "cd ~/Downloads". [21:18] Next, do "sha256sum kubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso". [21:19] When that command finishes, take a picture of the screen, with a closeup on the odd-looking code number it spits out, and send that. [21:19] That will help me make sure that the file downloaded properly. [21:19] @I_it_depends_I: ^ [21:19] is there a space between sum and kubuntu? (re @IrcsomeBot: Next, do "sha256sum kubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso".) [21:19] Yes. [21:21] https://imgur.com/a/yuG4NEF [21:23] Got it, comparing... [21:23] Alright! The file is good. [21:24] OK, one moment while I build the next command to run... [21:24] Yes dw [21:26] qemu-img create -f raw kubuntu.img 15G [21:26] Done [21:27] Alright, now for the cool command. [21:27] qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -m 2G -smp 2 -cdrom kubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso kubuntu.img [21:28] This command should pop up a window that shows Kubuntu booting. When it boots, click "Install Kubuntu" and install like normal. This will install Kubuntu into a virtual machine. [21:29] Let me a moment [21:32] https://imgur.com/a/mBCFuIG [21:32] gives me this error [21:32] Oh great. How...? OK, hold on one moment. I know exactly why it failed, let's see if it can be made to work on this system or not. [21:36] @I_it_depends_I: Alright, well, here's the best solution we're likely to have. Shut the laptop all the way down, then turn it back on. The moment the power light turns on, start hitting F2 like crazy. This should get you to an odd-looking screen. Send a picture of that screen. [21:37] the BIOS? [21:37] Yep. [21:37] We're going to see if the laptop will let you enable hardware virtualization. If so, this will almost certainly work. [21:38] I don’t think so, it’s terrible, i’m sending [21:38] https://imgur.com/a/FUGgK77 [21:39] OK, click "Security", and send that screen. [21:39] I can already tell this will probably work - the main screen says that Intel VT-x is supported, which is a very hopeful sign. (Intel VT-x is hardware virtualization.) [21:40] It's probably supported, but not enabled yet. [21:40] https://imgur.com/a/UamlqyU [21:40] Hmm. OK, try "Advanced" instead. [21:40] https://imgur.com/a/KwPheag [21:41] Hmm... can you click that drop-down arrow on the Advanced button? [21:41] The BIOS of this computer is so restricted [21:42] Well hopefully it won't have told us about Intel VT-x just to give us hope for no reason LOL [21:42] Where (re @IrcsomeBot: Hmm... can you click that drop-down arrow on the Advanced button?) [21:42] In the upper-right corner of the Advanced button, it looks like there's a drop-down arrow. What happens if you click it? [21:43] Ah no, it’s just the “cursor” that tell us we are in advanced [21:43] I don’t know how to call that [21:43] Also see if you can scroll sideways to uncover hidden options. [21:43] ✅ [21:44] this (re @I_it_depends_I: ✅) [21:44] Oh well. [21:44] Can’t (re @IrcsomeBot: Also see if you can scroll sideways to uncover hidden options.) [21:44] Can you click the Help button and see if it gives us any info? [21:45] https://imgur.com/a/zJ9ArBy [21:45] nothing [21:45] LOL wow you weren't joking about the BIOS on this thing being restrictive. I guess try the Boot tab just in case. [21:46] nothing 😂 [21:46] https://imgur.com/a/Od9zWYx [21:47] We can take a conclusion from this: “don’t buy samsung laptop” [21:47] Blah. OK, well that was useless. I guess boot back into Fedora - I've gone one more trick before giving up on virtualization on this thing. [21:49] Restarted, take your time [21:49] sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -m 2G -smp 2 -cdrom kubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso kubuntu.img [21:49] Oy, wait, hold on... [21:49] Yep yep [21:50] ofc [21:50] sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -m 2G -smp 2 -cdrom kubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso -drive file=kubuntu.img,format=raw [21:51] Try that out and see what happens. If it gives another error about /dev/kvm, then we're just gonna have to figure something else out. [21:52] " We can take a..." <- Too bad, the thing looks so nifty. But the buggy eUFS chip, weird processor, missing audio, locked-down BIOS... this is just sad. [21:52]