[06:55] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:10] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[07:11] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks , ça va?
[07:12] <didrocks> ça va, je vois le bout de l’écriture des tests, enfin! Et toi ?
[07:19] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:19] <didrocks> salut seb128 
[07:20] <oSoMoN> didrocks, ça va, je bosse depuis la Bretagne cette semaine, les températures sont très agréables :)
[07:20] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[07:23] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN, didrocks, seb128 
[07:23] <oSoMoN> hi duflu 
[07:42] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN, hey duflu 
[07:46] <duflu> biab
[11:29] <KGB-0> evolution signed tags 86a5fc6 Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.44.4 * Upstream version 3.44.4 * https://deb.li/i3vGD
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[14:42] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I'm going to push an apparmor profile update to the firefox-beta.{bionic,focal} branches, would you mind pushing the latest changelog entries there before I commit my changes?
[15:37] <ricotz> oSoMoN, done
[15:38] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[15:41] <juliank> bluetooth regressions in kinetic (jammy?) are really annoying, but I am running pipewire with wireplumber, so I don't know if it's me
[15:41] <juliank> 1) turning off bluetooth in Settings takes 10 seconds or so until the toggle is disabled 
[15:42] <juliank> 2) headphones only connect a2dp sinks after connecting them and then disable and enable bluetooth. If you just connect the headphones, they connect but don't work. Toggling bluetooth does not always fix it
[15:43] <juliank> This *was* working flawlessly for a while in the 21.10 or 22.04 cycle or so?
[15:45] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I pushed my changes
[16:21] <schopin> jbicha: I keep hitting something that sounds suspiciously like this when upgrading desktop from focal to jammy: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker/-/issues/355
[16:21] <ubottu> Issue 355 in GNOME/tracker "tracker-extract-3 crashed with signal 31 in __GI___ioctl()" [Closed]
[16:21] <schopin> see https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/d7866d85-14cc-11ed-a52b-fa163e55efd0
[16:22] <schopin> Do you have an inkling of what's going on and how we could remediate this?
[16:22] <jbicha> it is just one time during the upgrade?
[16:22] <schopin> yes
[16:23] <schopin> but happens fairly consistently.
[16:23] <jbicha> tracker has a strict sandbox & it tries to block lots of syscalls but some essential syscalls change over time & depending on system configuration
[16:23] <schopin> (I'm not sure if it's exactly at the same place in the code, but it's catching a SIGSYS)
[16:33] <jbicha> juliank: since you mentioned wireplumber, could you help me make a decision about how to handle bug 1978999?
[16:33] <ubottu> Bug 1978999 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "pipewire-media-session needs to be updated before wireplumber is installed" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1978999
[16:33] <jbicha> my thinking was that we should fix the broken symlink issue on jammy before people upgraded to kinetic since it seemed a pain to repair the issue afterwards
[16:34] <jbicha> but when I tested on jammy, the broken symlinks didn't seem to break audio at all. See also https://salsa.debian.org/utopia-team/wireplumber/-/merge_requests/10
[16:34] <ubottu> Merge 10 in utopia-team/wireplumber "Check the pipewire-session-manager.service symlink in the postinst step" [Opened]
[16:35] <jbicha> so I'm struggling to come up with an Impact Statement on a possible SRU and Debian never fixed the bug so I can't even copy what Debian is doing
[16:36] <jbicha> I need to decide what we're going to do soon, because it's bad that I've kept ubuntu-meta stuck in kinetic-proposed this long
[16:37] <juliank> jbicha: how about just doing it in the preinst for wireplumber?
[16:37] <juliank> in kinetic
[16:37] <juliank> seems like that would solve the issue as well
[16:38] <juliank> Or provide a pipewire-media-session.service -> /dev/null symlink in the wireplumber package and have Replaces+Conflicts: pipewire-media-session?
[16:38] <juliank> Lots of options!
[16:39] <juliank> Not sure why the service would still be around until you purge it in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/606066542/0001-Remove-pipewire-media-session.service-when-the-packa.patch, the service files live in /usr, they are not conffiles?
[16:40] <jbicha> they are not "conffiles" which makes things harder
[16:40] <juliank> I'd expect things to be easier
[16:40] <jbicha> the Debian merge proposal discussion suggests that the whole symlink thing might not even be needed so that's even simpler
[16:41] <juliank> Failed to preset unit, file /etc/systemd/user/pipewire-session-manager.service already exists and is a symlink to /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-media-session.service.
[16:41] <juliank> at this point the latter file does not exist anymore, so um systemd is um well this is confusing
[16:41] <jbicha> I meant it was harder because we can't use dpkg-maintscript-helper
[16:42] <jbicha> the disturbing part to me is that I found other broken symlinks with these systemd units. This one was noticed because of the warning about a conflict.
[16:42] <juliank> I believe this is a bug in debhelper if it sets up symlinks for aliases and then does not remove them until you purge the package.
[16:44] <juliank> I believe that you can just copy the stuff you do in the pipewire-media-session postrm to the wireplumber preinst in kinetic and it has the same effect for 22.04->22.10 upgrades
[16:44] <jbicha> mbiebl things that sysadmins may have reasons to tinker with symlinks and it's correct for the system to not clean all of that up without purging
[16:44] <jbicha> I'm probably misrepresenting his position a bit, but it's something like that
[16:44] <juliank> If it was tinkered with sure
[16:44] <juliank> If the symlink points to what debhelper setup, it should be gone
[16:44] <jbicha> without it being a "conffile", it's harder for the system to know if it's been tinkered with
[16:45] <jbicha> your preinst idea is a good one. It would be nice if I could avoid an SRU for a bug with questionable impact
[16:46] <juliank> I'm fairly certain debhelper can know what it should be pointing to when building the package.
[16:46] <juliank> if foo.service has Alias=alias.service
[16:46] <juliank> it installs a alias.service -> foo.service symlink in postinst
[16:47] <juliank> it can have "if alias.service points to foo.service; then remove it; fi" in the postrm
[16:47] <jbicha> yeah, I do think there is a bug in what the debhelper systemd stuff is doing. we shouldn't be making dangling symlinks. But I'm not comfortable dealing with debhelper code itself
[16:47] <juliank> or do it in prerm and just parse the line from the service file before it's removed :)
[16:48] <juliank> * or debhelper could do it
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