[19:43] which key is normally used for the -next release? I want to get sources.list working, with a key to each repo. and for some reason I can't get the right key for kinetic source [20:56] murmel: It's not just "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ kinetic main universe restricted multiverse"? I seem to think that worked for me, maybe you need to use a different mirror. [20:57] murmel: $ curl http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease|gpg --verify [20:57] ... [20:57] gpg: Signature made Thu 21 Apr 2022 18:16:39 BST using RSA key ID 991BC93C [21:16] oh my... why does gpg still use short key IDs...