[07:41] <arraybolt3[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/wm9xkc/hibernate_2204_laptop/ <-- User on Reddit just discovered a bug in Lubuntu - hibernation doesn't work even if the swapfile is big enough to support it. It appears he discovered a fix (or at least a workaround) for the issue.
 "https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu..." <- I think we have a discourse thread about that. 
[09:34] <kc2bez[m]> Hibernate is super tricky in Linux. It isn't well supported
[09:35] <kc2bez[m]> It is very dependent on the hardware 
[09:35] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm, odd. The idea seems like it should just work, that's odd.
[09:35] <arraybolt3[m]> So maybe it's just this one guy
[09:35] <arraybolt3[m]> guy's hardware that requires this particular workaround?
[09:37] <arraybolt3[m]> Eh, no, found Leo's bug report on it.
[09:37] <kc2bez[m]> Well the swap option we provide on erase is not correct or big enough. You need to do manual partitioning.
[09:37] <arraybolt3[m]> True. But even when the partition or file is made large enough, the Hibernate button in the Application Menu doesn't work.
[09:37] <arraybolt3[m]> But the systemctl command for hibernation does work.
[09:38] <arraybolt3[m]> So the hardware supports hibernation, but the button is borked I believe.
[09:38] <kc2bez[m]> You really want a partition, not a file
[09:39] <arraybolt3[m]> Well if systemctl can get hibernation working, but the button isn't working, that sounds to me like the button isn't going to work at all, right?
[09:40] <kc2bez[m]> I am not sure what is wrong with the button or what it is trying to do 
[09:40] <arraybolt3[m]> I get that the configuration needs to be highly specific, and that only some hardware will work with it, but if the user has the right hardware and sets up everything right, it seems to me that the button ought to work.
[09:40] <arraybolt3[m]> That's what the guy on Reddit figured out how to fix.
[09:40] <arraybolt3[m]> He had to fiddle with things in polkit to make it work.
[09:41] <kc2bez[m]> Sure, I am just saying you want be super careful with configuration too.
[09:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Very true.
[09:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Out of curiosity, why is a swap partition better than a swap file for hibernation?
[09:44] <arraybolt3[m]> Also, why are we both up this earlate? We both should get some sleep (at least I know I need to, maybe you're a morning person in your time zone, but I'm up waaaaaay too late LOL).
[09:44] <kc2bez[m]> Because when you hibernate you dump all the memory to disk. That gives the waking system better dedicated access to it.
[09:45] <kc2bez[m]> I am just awakening for the day.
[09:45] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm, good point, it would make the wakeup process faster.
[09:46]  * arraybolt3[m] wonders how hard it would be to add an option in Calamares so we have "Swap file", "No swap", and "Hibernation-enabled swap" at install time
[09:47] <kc2bez[m]> It is easy
[09:47] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, anyway, I need some sleep, but that was some interesting extra info we've got. Thanks for discussing this with me, maybe we can make it work at some point!
[09:48] <kc2bez[m]> We probably can, I remember we messed with it a bit before.
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