[00:11] <wantom> ok
[01:35] <Ninten> Hey, everyone! Not too long ago I requested help due to an issue I'm facing. Since I upgraded my system to Xubuntu 22.04.1, I get this message on boot, "mtd device must be supplied (name is empty)". Then, the system proceeds to boot in emergency mode. Once more, I'd like to request for help. It would be much appreciated if anyone had any insight on this issue. Thanks
[04:31] <rfm> Ninten, you might look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1981622 for clues.  seems that message is not what's causing the system not to boot. permaps "journalctl -b" in emergency mode and see if there are other messages
[04:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1981622 in systemd (Ubuntu Jammy) "mtd device must be supplied (device name is empty)" [Medium, Triaged]
=== Eight is now known as Eight_
[08:22] <Eight_> Managed to get xubuntu installed and I can access it if I restart and spam "esc" to then select xubuntu, but if I allow my laptop to continue booting normally windows takes priority. Would like to know how I can get grub to take priority and allow me to chose which os I want to boot into rather than windows taking priority and having to be stopped
[08:22] <Eight_> from booting to allow me use xubuntu. Installed from windows 8.1 and xubuntu itself seems to be fine, but I cant manage to find a solution to this issue.
[09:54] <tomreyn> Eight_: are you uefi booting? it sounds like you are. if so, you can choose the default target in bios, and use the bios provided boot override menu to choose what to boot - before grub even loads.
[10:08] <Eight_> How exactly would I do that in the bios and what exactly am I supposed to change?
[10:14] <tomreyn> Eight_: the uefi setup screens differ by computer model. you would need to refer to the manual there.
[10:17] <tomreyn> Eight_: you can also set the default boot order using efibootmgr from xubuntu: https://www.linuxbabe.com/command-line/how-to-use-linux-efibootmgr-examples
[10:28] <Eight_> Am I going to have to chose between either xubuntu or windows as a default, rather than getting a prompt before either is selected? I can live with that, but It would definitely be more convenient to get a choice
[14:47] <usuario> Hello
[14:47] <usuario> This is the chat support of xubuntu?
[14:47] <tomreyn> Eight_: maybe you can configure your uefi firmware to always prompt you by not setting a default, but again, that will depend on the uefi implementation.
[14:47] <tomreyn> usuario: yes
[14:47] <usuario> okey , perfect
[14:48] <tomreyn> for questions which are not specifically about the graphical user interface and applications of XFCE, there is also #ubuntu, which has the same foundation
[15:30] <ali1234> i just upgraded to 22.04 and how do i turn off the comically large title bars?
[15:35] <ali1234> also why is pkexec broken now?
[15:47] <ali1234> ah, enabling the qa experimental ppa gets rid of the funny title bars
[15:47] <ali1234> pkexec still broken though
[15:55] <Ninten> rfm, thanks for your input! I ran the command "journalctl -xb", and it seems like systemd has trouble mounting the partitions. There seems to be an EFI issue as well
[15:58] <Ninten> Not sure if my system is salvageable, though. I already downloaded the Xubuntu ISO, because methinks it's the easiest way to save all my files to a different partition, then perform a fresh install
[15:59] <ali1234> Ninten: did upgrading hose your system too? :(
[16:00] <ali1234> for me, the upgrader didn't install netplan or lightdm, so first boot was to a console with no networking. had to install them manually
[16:01] <ali1234> apparently bluetooth is broken as well, but i don't use that
[16:02] <ali1234> systemd is trying and failing to start bluez every 30 seconds
[16:04] <Ninten> ali1234, After upgrading, xubuntu only boots in emergency mode, so yeah, my system is compromised
[16:04] <ali1234> any error when normal booting?
[16:05] <ali1234> or just a black screen?
[16:06] <Ninten> I get "mtd device must be supplied (name is empty)" on a black screen, then the splash screen, then emergency mode 
[16:07] <ali1234> that error is harmless, i see it too
[16:07] <Ninten> I thought so
[16:07] <ali1234> not sure what emergency mode even looks like
[16:08] <ali1234> ugh why is it defaulting to "xset b on" now?
[16:09] <ali1234> all i hear is beep beep beep
[16:10] <Ninten> Emergency mode is basically a black screen with a command line
[16:10] <ali1234> a login?
[16:10] <ali1234> or do you go right into a shell?
[16:11] <Ninten> Yes
[16:12] <Ninten> I press control-d and I go into the shell
[16:12] <Ninten> With root privileges
[16:13] <ali1234> hmm. that's different to what i experienced
[16:14] <ali1234> did you get any errors during the upgrade?
[16:14] <Ninten> No
[16:15] <Ninten> It went smoothly
[16:15] <ali1234> for me it crashed, and then the crash reporter crashed
[16:15] <ali1234> so i was left with a half installed system
[16:17] <Ninten> How did you finish the upgrade?
[16:17] <ali1234> i ran the upgrader again and let it finish
[16:18] <ali1234> then i rebooted, logged in, configured interface manually with ifconfig, and ran sudo apt update && sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
[16:20] <Ninten> I see
[16:22] <ali1234> then to fix networking i had to "sudo apt install netplan.io && sudo netplan generate && sudo netplan apply"
[16:22] <ali1234> and now i just fixed polkit by installing policykit-1-gnome
[16:22] <ali1234> (that should really be in the xubuntu-desktop seed)
[16:24] <ali1234> i think that's everything fixed here
[16:26] <Ninten> That was very linux-savvy! I wouldn't have known which packages to install
[16:26] <ali1234> i didn't either. i had to google it
[16:26] <ali1234> all this stuff is completely different to how it was just a couple of years ago
[16:26] <ali1234> i'm not really convinced it is an improvement
[16:26] <ali1234> especially netplan
[16:27] <ali1234> at least it is easy to configure your DNS from the command line now
[16:27] <ali1234> although the "predictable" interface names are anything but
[16:29] <ali1234> they decided to name interfaces based on PCI topology because apparently that never changes? except when it does
[16:29] <ali1234> plug in a pci-e card with a pci bridge on it and all your network cards get shifted down one, lol
[16:29] <ali1234> the exact problem that predictable names is supposed to fix
[16:36] <rfm> ali1234, PCI assignments never change, but PCI-e ones do.  PCI-e came along after the predictable name project..
[16:37] <rfm> ali1234, netplan makes it easy to match on the MAC address for config, that's what I do
[16:38] <ali1234> pci-e is 20 years old
[16:50] <Eight_> Is there any way to add a search bar on the panel rather than accessing it through the applications menu?
[16:52] <ali1234> i don't think so - there is verve command line, but you have to know exactly what the program is called
[18:26] <Kuschelpony> good day
[18:40] <Ninten> I just bought a couple of recordable DVDs. Now I can burn the downloaded ISO and boot from it, recover my files, and do a fresh install. Question is, will my computer be able to handle it? I have a 2x 1.30Ghz processor, 4GB of RAM, and an onboard graphics card
[18:42] <tomreyn> it will be slow, and you might have issues with too many heavy applications running, such as multiple web browsers or many open browser tabs, or a web browser and a video viewing / editing software.
[18:42] <tomreyn> what matters is that it's an x86-64 CPU
[18:43] <tomreyn> if you're able to boot the installer, it is, though.
[18:43] <tomreyn> https://xubuntu.org/requirements/
[19:06] <Ninten> Thanks, tomreyn
[19:07] <Ninten> What about support for Japanese input? It worked on 20.04, with anthy, but I'm unsure if it would work on 22.04
[19:10] <genii> !info anthy jammy
[19:10] <ubottu> anthy (1:0.4-2, jammy): Japanese kana-kanji conversion - utilities. In component universe, is optional. Built by anthy. Size 16 kB / 74 kB
[19:11] <tomreyn> Ninten: ^ so it does exist. i could not comment on whether or not it works, have no experience, i'm afraid.
[19:12] <genii> !info anthy focal
[19:12] <ubottu> anthy (1:0.4-2, focal): Japanese kana-kanji conversion - utilities. In component universe, is optional. Built by anthy. Size 16 kB / 74 kB
[19:13] <genii> It's the same version so the odds are pretty good it will just operate as before
[19:19] <Ninten> Cool! Thanks
[19:21] <Ninten> !info fcitx5 jammy
[19:21] <ubottu> fcitx5 (5.0.14-1, jammy): Next generation of Fcitx Input Method Framework. In component universe, is optional. Built by fcitx5. Size 177 kB / 586 kB
[19:42] <Ninten> Is it difficult to install the home folder in another partition than the OS?
[19:46] <tomreyn> what's difficult to person 1 can be piece of cake to person 2, so it really depends much on you.
[19:47] <tomreyn> it does not involve a lot of steps, but if you're not familiar with working on a terminal it can be challenging.
[19:48] <Ninten> I know only the basic commands
[19:51] <tomreyn> here's a way to do it on an already installed system: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[19:52] <tomreyn> it will be easier if you do it on a fresh installation with custom partitioning.
[19:52] <ali1234> i used to do the separate home thing but i stopped. i couldn't really see the point and i always ended up just wasting loads of space on the root drive
[19:59] <Ninten> But, on the other hand, you having your files on a separate partition helps you when doing a fresh install, for you will format only the root drive
[19:59] <ali1234> i just swap in a blank drive
[19:59] <ali1234> then attach the old one on USB to copy files
[20:01] <Ninten> Do you use an USB hard drive?
[20:01] <ali1234> no
[20:01] <ali1234> only for the old install
[20:43] <Ninten> So I booted from Live CD, but I don't see the panel on top of the screen. Should this be expected?
[20:53] <Ninten> The mouse pointer is an X, I can't close windows by clicking because there's not a header with a button. I am very afraid this installation will not work... But at least I am backing up my files from my broken xubuntu partition (a bit over 30GB
[21:21] <Eight_> Managed to get ungoogled chromium working through an appimage, but I can't get a launcher for it to work on the panel, nor can I assign it a proper image. Tried to look online for a method on doing this but one guide didn't work and I have yet to find any others. Any help would be appreciated, as I would prefer to have my main browser easy to
[21:21] <Eight_> access and distinguish if possible.
[21:38] <hulp> Hey im having a issue with install updates its giving me the error "Unable to install updates Prepared update not found /var/lib/Packagekit/prepared-update
[21:45] <hulp> nervmind i found a fix
[21:58] <Ninten> I have a 4GB partition that I want to use as Swap area, and a partition for the OS and all my files. What about the ESP partition? Is it created automatically?
[22:22] <Ninten> No, I must create that partition
[22:22] <Ninten> The ESP, that is
[22:28] <Ninten> Question: in a fresh install of xubuntu what should be the mount point of the ESP?
[22:43] <rfm> Ninten, /boot/efi is where it normally goes