| mitya57 | Hi! There is no sil2100, but maybe someone else can look why https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/4900/build/1/ got stuck? | 09:55 |
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| ahasenack | TIL dh-nss exists, to install /etc/nsswitch.conf services | 12:20 |
| ahasenack | more specifically, to add entries to /etc/nsswitch.conf | 12:20 |
| ahasenack | sergiodj: ^ FYI | 12:20 |
| === pizzaiolo is now known as pizza | ||
| slyon | enr0n: FYI: systemd FTBFS with the new glibc 2.36 from -proposed. I integrated the upstream fix to solve this: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/+source/systemd/commit/?h=ubuntu-kinetic&id=1e8048741cc0f811faf6b9e713a3fb7e38ef3503 | 13:40 |
| ubottu | Commit 1e80487 in ~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/+source/systemd "Cherry-pick upstream commit (3657d3a) to fix glibc 2.36 compat" | 13:40 |
| enr0n | slyon: cool, thanks! | 14:03 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Hey, quick question for y'all - if I hit a source code file in software I'm helping package that is under a license that isn't specifically named and doesn't look like any license I've seen before, how do I put that in debian/copyright? | 15:41 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (The file is in an audio plugin package I'm working on making the debian/copyright file for, it's made by Apple and the license, while it is free and open-source, it's also not anything I've seen. It looks... BSD-inspired, maybe? But definitely not BSD AFAICT.) | 15:42 |
| rbasak | arraybolt3[m]: I think the hard requirement is merely that it's DFSG-compatible and that it's documented in debian/copyright. So you can paste the license, or install the file somewhere if it's large and then mention that in debian/copyright, etc. | 15:46 |
| rbasak | arraybolt3[m]: if you're following dep5 (https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep5/) then you can add a License section that contains the license. | 15:47 |
| rbasak | arraybolt3[m]: there's an example on that page. Search for "PSF-2" | 15:47 |
| rbasak | "If there are licenses present in the package without a standard short name, an arbitrary short name may be assigned for these licenses." | 15:48 |
| arraybolt3[m] | rbasak: Ah, thank you for that link! It says I can use an arbitrary short name, which is what I needed to know. | 15:48 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Thank you! | 15:48 |
| rbasak | Ah I said above you can link to a separate file, but that's wrong. That's only allowed for a specific limited list: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile | 15:50 |
| rbasak | Apart from that debian/copyright must contain the full license text. | 15:50 |
| arraybolt3[m] | That's not a problem, it's a short license. | 15:51 |
| rbasak | Sure. Just correcting myself for the record. | 15:51 |
| cyphermox | if you want to find a name for it you could also grep the SPDX github for a meaningful portion of the license text, in case it shows up | 16:02 |
| cyphermox | https://github.com/spdx/license-list-XML/tree/master/src | 16:02 |
| sergiodj | ahasenack: TIL indeed | 16:10 |
| arraybolt3[m] | cyphermox: Thanks, that's handy! Looks like it's some very shortened variant of APL to me (still not quite the same though). I guess I'll call it ASPL (Apple Short Public License). | 16:16 |
| cyphermox | arraybolt3[m]: if it's not quite the same I would just not give it a name | 17:16 |
| arraybolt3[m] | cyphermox: You can do that? I thought it had to have a short name. | 17:17 |
| cyphermox | I wouldn't invent a name | 19:20 |
| sarnold | you wouldn't download a license | 19:26 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | You wouldn't download RAM either. | 19:27 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Well then what should I do if the license has no name and the specification requires a short name? | 20:27 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I mean, the doc literally says to invent a name. | 20:28 |
| luis220413 | Please reopen bug 1843806 | 20:38 |
| ubottu | Bug 1843806 in bind9 (Ubuntu) "Please build with DNSTAP" [Wishlist, Won't Fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1843806 | 20:38 |
| luis220413 | The status of this bug was set by the reporter to Won't Fix immediately after reporting it. | 20:39 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | luis220413: You need to take that up with teward . He's the person that closed it as "Won't Fix" and is a seasoned developer. We are not going to override his decision. | 20:59 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | And, once again, stop with the insistence. You've been warned. | 21:00 |
| luis220413 | Eickmeyer[m]: This seems to be a mistake, because he said that this bug will not be fixed for Eoan (the development series at the time the bug was filed) but may be considered for Focal. | 21:00 |
| teward | i'm... confused | 21:00 |
| teward | why am i receiving pings? | 21:00 |
| luis220413 | teward: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/1843806/comments/5 | 21:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1843806 in bind9 (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Please build with DNSTAP" [Wishlist, Won't Fix] | 21:01 |
| luis220413 | teward: You are receiving pings because this is your Launchpad username. | 21:01 |
| teward | i was talking to Eickmeyer[m] ;) | 21:01 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | teward: Because he wants to reopen a bug you closed as "Won't Fix". | 21:01 |
| teward | then he can file his own SRU bug. The original SRU is closed as wont fix and is staying dead. And I dont think SRU intended to add new features despite a MIR completing or not | 21:03 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | luis220413: ^ | 21:03 |
| teward | luis220413: 'revisited' was not a guarantee it would be looked at | 21:03 |
| teward | and guess what i got other priorities than bind9 dnstap | 21:04 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That's the correct procedure. | 21:04 |
| teward | luis220413: if you want this considered for 20.04 onwards you have to file a *new* SRU request | 21:04 |
| teward | dont touch the dead dnstap sru i filed. | 21:05 |
| teward | Eickmeyer[m]: hes been warned about what insistence? DM me specific logs / references please | 21:05 |
| teward | fyi i'm coming off a day long shift of beating an ms365 + exchange mail cluster at FT job to make it behave with an onprem app so i'm extra grumpy today | 21:06 |
| luis220413 | teward: I just filed bug 1986586. | 21:08 |
| ubottu | Bug 1986586 in bind9 (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Enable DNSTAP support" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1986586 | 21:08 |
| luis220413 | I reset the status to New. | 21:09 |
| teward | and i need more pings on this why? | 21:09 |
| teward | i'm not Release Team. | 21:09 |
| sarnold | I have to expect the SRU team will require significantly more compelling test plan and problem sections | 21:10 |
| teward | ^^ that though | 21:12 |
| teward | sarnold knows all | 21:12 |
| teward | speaking of sarnold i summon you to dms | 21:12 |
| sarnold | eek I'm being dragged to another window! help help! | 21:12 |
| luis220413 | sarnold: What do you mean? | 21:13 |
| sarnold | luis220413: take a look at the bug template again https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template "detailed instructions" and "imagine the change is wrong or breaks something else, how would this show up?" | 21:16 |
| sarnold | luis220413: those aren't idle questions. go through the old SRUs and take a look at questions the SRU team has asked people who've proposed SRUs in the past. they expect details before they'll distribute changes to the tens of millions of ubuntu users. | 21:17 |
| luis220413 | sarnold: I updated the bug with a complete test plan and an improved regression analysis. | 22:01 |
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