[00:05] SleePy: virtio? This is a VM? [00:05] Yes [00:05] KVM on a Ubuntu 22.04.4 host. [00:06] this is information that should be provided during the initial ask [00:07] My bad. I wasn't aware the VM, KVM and Virtio was the problem. Just that it was getting stuck at that message. I only figured it out when I disabled all mounts in my fstab and then slowly renabled them until it hangs during startup [00:11] yay. Ubuntu upgrade went well [00:11] 20.04.? -> 22.04.1 [00:11] cool [00:11] nothing wrong? [00:11] great scott! [00:12] normally people come to irc to report failure [00:12] i think you're the first to come to irc to report success [00:12] rud0lf, i had some oddities with themes, but it seems mostly fixed now. [00:13] i see, thanks for reply [00:13] can't say i have tested low level things yet. But seems working [02:07] Well that sucks. Upgraded a box to 22.04. Lost the remote ssh session and the backup on 1022. Get a physical monitor/keyboard on it. It won't let me login. So had to force reboot it. System won't finish booting, errors out. So now trying on a live cd in a chroot, seeing if I can run dpkg reconfigure to fix it.. [02:08] :( [02:08] Odd thing is, once I setup the chroot, I can't get network resolution. Got a IP, but no resolution. The local dns service won't start or something. [02:09] be sure to set up the /etc/resolv.conf and so on within the chroot context, for processes that use that as the root [02:09] I can't modify that file. systemd/netplan BS [02:11] hmm, maybe I didn't understand what your chrooting from and to, then :) heh [02:11] I could exit the chroot, try to bind the live cds resolver file. It has a 127.0.0.53, which seems to work in the chroot to resolve [02:11] ah yeah, tcp ports aren't scoped by chroots :) [02:12] Live cd, I assembled the mdadm, then strapped it and chroot into the raid. Running dkpg reconfigure right now to see if it will repair things [02:13] Well, dpkg finished with a error. apt install -f, that finished and rand dpkg reconfigure again, non errors. Lets hope.. [02:14] ooo happy thoughts [02:14] Well it KPed... [02:14] ? [02:15] kernel panic [02:15] ah! [02:16] Sounds like it can't find the volume. Not sure what is up with that. Sounds like its missing the mdadm to assemble the raid and boot [02:58] darn thing. Use live cd to modify the grub config, as I'm not able to get it to show. Get it to show, boot into a older kernel. It works. Run update-initramfs, update-grub and reboot. fails again. So older kernel works. Just need to figure out why I can't get it to work on the latest [03:02] SleePy: What error are you getting? (You might have said it already, but I missed it.) [03:02] Its getting a kernel panic saying it can't find the device. Kernel 5.4.0.-124. If I use 5.4.0-122, it works. [03:03] SleePy: It's the "no root device found" one, right? [03:03] Also, do you have encryption enabled? [03:04] "end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" [03:04] no [03:04] Right, that's the one. [03:04] Hmm, both kernels have the same "root=UUID=" argument on their command line, right? [03:04] I can get -122 to boot. So I just need to get it to repair the -124 and I'm good. [03:04] but 22.04 uses 5.15 ... [03:05] oerheks, they're probably on 20.04 with no HWE. [03:05] Well that may explain it. I need it to upgrade the kernel [03:05] Some flavors do it that way. [03:05] Well that sucks. Upgraded a box to 22.04. [03:05] SleePy, what version and flavor are you on? [03:05] I had a failed upgrade to 22.04 I'm repairing [03:06] SleePy, Are you using Ubuntu, or Lubuntu, or Kubuntu, or...? [03:06] Ubuntu [03:06] (They're all supported here, I'm just trying to figure out if your use of 5.4 kernel is normal or not.) [03:07] SleePy, ok that's odd. Boot into the old kernel, and do "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" if you can. [03:07] (Though if you had a failed upgrade that might not be possible.) [03:08] I got it into a chroot on live cd and was able to get it to do a dpkg reconfigure and apt install -f. So just fighting the kernel. But with -122, I can boot into the system normally it looks like [03:08] SleePy, well if you can get into the system at all I'd use the old kernel and finish repairing the upgrade. You have full backups, right? [03:10] whioh is *really* weird because -122 had an oops that *really* messed up a lot of folks https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-5.4/+bug/1981658 [03:10] Launchpad bug 1981658 in linux-hwe-5.4 (Ubuntu Bionic) "BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address: 0000000000000008" [Undecided, Confirmed] [03:10] Its just a kvm host. Reinstalling it just means reinstalling kvm and nfs exports. Which I have config backups of both. So not worried [03:11] "Waiting for cache lock: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 4548 (unattended-upgr)" [03:11] SleePy, that should go away with time. [03:11] Yea, I will wait on it [03:12] heh it might even solve your problem for you :) [03:12] Maybe.. 900 some odd packages showed up for updates.. [03:12] nice [03:12] We will just keep beatings until it improves [03:28] Looks like it upgraded the kernel and is booting now. A few more errors, but I will work those out tomorrow. One being its not getting the right ip, assuming netplan is messed up. The other is a start job for a /tmp/900 and /tmp/1024. Will look into those tomorrow [03:31] SleePy, have fun! [03:32] Will do. Thanks for the help [04:01] I have a Dell PowerEdge R720 server which is just going to be used as a RAID6 system. Should I download unbuntu desktop or ubuntu server? [04:07] my ubuntu 22.o4 has refused to strat [04:07] Failed to open a session for the virtual machine ubuntu-22.04. [04:07] Not in a hypervisor partition (HVP=0) (VERR_NEM_NOT_AVAILABLE). [04:07] VT-x is disabled in the BIOS for all CPU modes (VERR_VMX_MSR_ALL_VMX_DISABLED). [04:07] Result Code: E_FAIL (0x80004005) [04:07] Component: ConsoleWrap [04:08] VT-x is disabled .. why? [04:13] JoeLlama: need more info most R720 use a perc hardware raid so you could install either desktop or server on the3 raid 6 depends on what you want to do with it and skill [04:14] Hello, I just installed ubuntu server again, and then installed plexmediaserver, but plex does not have access to a folder on my home desktop. How can i make sure it has access? [04:15] plex is paid stuff, did you look at their docs? [04:15] i am not going to work for them. [04:15] https://support.plex.tv/articles/ [04:32] Minor723: I ran into something about that the other day and I think we were able to fix it. One moment while I look it up... [04:37] Minor723, does this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/150909/plex-wont-enter-my-home-directory-or-other-partitions [04:39] JoeLlama, I'd go with Server since that's what its job is (Ubuntu Desktop will likely be sluggish with the graphics capabilities of a rack server like that). If you need a GUI so you can configure things more comfortably, you could install LXQT on the server to give you a lightweight UI. (Full disclosure - I am a Lubuntu contributor, and Lubuntu uses LXQT.) [04:59] arraybolt3 yes that did thank you so much [04:59] Minor723: Glad to be able to help! [05:07] This might be silly, and I think it's just the result of a transient error, but is there some reason that the core_20 snap would randomly become a mountable loop device in Nautilus? Would this be indicative of a problem? Ubuntu 22.04, GNOME desktop with no extensions. Verified where the random 65 MB Volume came from by using "losetup --list". [05:24] thanks toddc... gunna go software raid 6 [05:25] that is my goal [05:29] gunna install ubuntu desktop [06:55] is there any known issue with the torrent tracker? used to be the fastest way to download isos, now I only receive a trickle === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [07:02] frickler: I noticed the samething but I assummed due to more people with high speed internet just doing direct downloads plus most non it users just using a mobile device [07:04] frickler, Ubuntu 22.04.1 was *just* released so it might not have many seeders yet. [07:04] frickler, the speed varies on how many people seed.. at times it's the fastest, but isn't always (can also be slowest too) [07:05] (I'd seed it but my ISP might not like that.) [07:06] just restarted my seeding to test [07:21] seems 20.04.4 is affected as well. the only peer I see is 185.125.190.59==torrent.ubuntu.com., so I'm pretty convinced there is some issue with it, not announcing any other peers [07:21] frickler: I got no seeds no peers no idea [07:55] hi,I have ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS running in my laptop and just now I reveived a notification asking for approval to upgrade to 20.04.1 LTS? why is it asking to upgrade to a lwer version? [07:55] frickler, https://i.imgur.com/p9eZWDM.png [07:56] masber, read again [07:56] it is 22.04.1 [07:57] oh yeah sorry [07:57] time to get glasses === jancoow1 is now known as jancoow === diskin_ is now known as diskin [08:31] I cannot find cc1 despite having build-essential installed. Reinstalls haven't helped. Running Ubuntu 20.04. [08:32] Doing an update now, maybe that will help. [08:47] Okay, the update didn't help. What package is supposed to contain cc1? [08:48] Is this a path bug? [09:09] Okay, I have tried numerous updates, nothing has worked. Why is cc1 not properly symlinked in focal? [09:14] Hello! Does anyone happen to know how to force the desktop screen mode in 22.04? I think it auto-detects that it can use a higher refresh rate or something, but the graphics card cannot keep up and the screen just looks distorted and resets every few seconds. === fling_ is now known as fling [09:18] TS24: you can use xrandr, "xrandr -q" should list the available modes and you can add your own as well [09:19] TS24: i think that doesnt make sense though, the graphics just pushes stuff, it wont work more for the screen framerate, i dont think [09:20] TS24: "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" lists the graphics driver and recommended one, if it's not installed maybe it might fix the problem [09:25] Does anyone know why Ubuntu's desktop in 20.04 is deactivating my extensions at every login? [09:25] If you change the screen resolution it will have a timer that reverts automatically back to the previous configuration if it turns out that the new resolution doesn't work, so you are not stuck trying to undo the change without graphics. My problem now is that it auto-detects a bad graphics mode on boot, and so I only have half working graphics and [09:25] there is no timer to revert to a working configuration, so I think I need a way to force it by editing some configuration file etc. [09:26] TS24: that timer is for you when you manually edit it from the Display settings, it gives you some time to confirm you want it or reverts [09:27] TS24: can you run "(sudo ubuntu-drivers devices; lshw -C video; xrandr -q) | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here? [09:28] I am having some builds fail because the system cannot find cc1, even though I have build-essential installed. How can I determine what's wrong here? [09:37] This is what I get, but you should remember that I can only run this in safe graphics mode or just root terminal without graphics, as I don't have working graphics at the moment: https://termbin.com/s2q7 [09:40] I think I had the same problem earlier and I managed to fix it by tweaking some configuration, but now after the update it reverted. I also think that back then running from a live boot USB drive detected the graphics correctly, or at least I got a working screen mode. [09:41] This is a pretty old installation so I'm wondering if I have remnants of some old configuration laying around somewhere that is causing the problem. [09:44] Hi. How can I make python webserver be able to upload files without interfering with apparmor? [09:44] I guess there is a bug there, www-data user needs to be exempted [09:58] Hi [10:00] hi [10:19] theres a package that needs to go into apache2: https://serverfault.com/questions/932410/enabling-apparmor-for-apache2-in-ubuntu-18-04 [10:20] *I mean, requirement to install*, dependency. [10:21] Can someone tell me what locale-gen uses for the list of locales? /etc/locale.gen seems to be ignored, I put 1 locale there but it insists on generating a plethora of others [10:36] HisShadow, "man localedef" points to /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive ... [10:37] it's some binary file [10:38] well, read the manpage ... [10:38] it explains how to add new locales as well ... [10:43] don't see a way of removing locale permanently from the locale-gen list [11:11] hello [11:11] can anyone help me? im having trouble installing wine [11:12] this error keeps popping up (/usr/share/keyrings/winehq-archive.key’ already there; not retrieving.) === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [11:56] can anyone help me? im having trouble installing wine [11:56] this error keeps popping up (/usr/share/keyrings/winehq-archive.key’ already there; not retrieving.) [11:57] that's not an error at all ... it just informs you that you already got the key ... [11:58] hi guys! Where I cat set in Ubuntu 22.04 "elevator=deadline" in etc/defult/grub is OK, but the disk scheduler continue to be [none] [11:58] liohman, have you run "sudo update-grub" after editing the file ? [11:59] yep, and I see it in /proc/smdline [11:59] cmdline* [12:01] Hi all [12:01] liohman, and if you cat the sysfs path to "queue/scheduler" for your disk, what does it show beyond "none" ? [12:02] cat /sys/block/sdc/queue/scheduler [12:02] [none] mq-deadline [12:02] so there is no "dadline" scheduler but an mq-deadline .... [12:02] I will try with mq- now [12:02] i already got the key but i cant still use grapejuice [12:02] right [12:02] i think i did something that messes it up [12:03] echo deadline to /sys works, and change it to mq-deadline [12:03] takki, that might be, but the key is very likely not involved in that [12:04] wait [12:04] nothing happens :( [12:04] what do you expect to happen ? [12:05] when i do this code (sudo wget -nc -O /usr/share/keyrings/winehq-archive.key https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key) [12:05] cat /proc/cmdline : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-46-generic root=UUID=5a..... ro maybe-ubiquity elevator=mq-deadline [12:05] it says (/usr/share/keyrings/winehq-archive.key’ already there; not retrieving.) [12:05] cat /sys/block/sdc/queue/scheduler [none] mq-deadline [12:07] takki: do you use ubuntu 22? [12:10] takki: read this article https://askubuntu.com/questions/1403556/key-is-stored-in-legacy-trusted-gpg-keyring-after-ubuntu-22-04-update [12:10] can be helpful in your case [12:11] liohman, hmm ... perhaps ask in #ubuntu-kernel what changed ? [12:11] ogra: thanks, I will do it [12:12] liohman, though i'm curious how the "maybe-ubiquity" got into your cmdline ... thats only there on live images IIRC [12:16] ogra: I am trying with and without it.... same sh** happens [12:40] is anybody? [12:49] * ogra thinks he is ... [13:03] Hello! I've got an Xubuntu virtual machine on DigitalOcean that's having major problems after an upgrade to 22.04.1. apparmor seems to repeatedly be trying to load /usr/lib/connman/scripts/dhclient-script. Any ideas? [13:04] And apparently /usr/lib/connman no longer exists. [13:18] Hi all, how can I delete users list at login screen ? Not disable it but remove "old" user ? (Users exists in samba ADDC but not in local account) === JanC_ is now known as JanC === ledeni_ is now known as ledeni [14:00] OK, I think I've narrowed my problem. After a do-release-upgrade to 22.04.1, dhclient hangs with apparmor on boot and then can't get a connection later. If I manually force the network config with ifconfig I can't get any traffic. Any ideas? === fling_ is now known as fling [14:38] Hi [14:40] When I do `chmod g+s .`, any newly created files will have the group the same as `.`, however files mv'ed or cp'ed won't change their group, right? But what about files uploaded by FTP/SFTP/SCP? Does anyone know what happens with those? === Furor is now known as Colere [14:54] Ecko: Files created through that path will inherit gid. So, cp, ftp,scp, etc will get the gid. Moved files will not change their gid, at least as long as it is a move within filesystem boundary. Across file systems, the mv command will do a copy and delete, which means the gid should inherit, but I haven't tried this out myself. [15:07] hey all, I have a bluetooth device that I can't seem to connect to my ubuntu machine; connects fine to my ipad and macbook. Looking hopefully for general bt debugging strategies but can provide more detail if someone wants to help with my specific issue === jancoow5 is now known as jancoow [15:32] hey [15:33] How do I get python-pysqlite2 on jammy? it seems to be gone. is there a replacement? [15:35] with pip i guess? [15:45] when do-release-upgrade says [15:45] >Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager. [15:45] it really should've offered a diff view! to see which were disabled [15:46] anyway, how can i see which sources do-release-upgrade disabled? [15:46] all 3rd party sources are disabled, hans_ [15:46] all in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [15:47] and aso in the sources.list file [15:47] but usually PPAs dont touch that [15:47] *also [15:47] no, sources.list is not populated anymore with 3rd party stuff [15:47] odd, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list seems intact , containing >deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/docker.gpg] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu focal stable [15:48] i usually just rename the whole /etc/apt/sources.list.d folder before an upgrade [15:48] uh oh [15:48] is docker in some kind of do-release-upgrade whitelist, perhaps? [15:48] i have not tested if the updater dooes it correctly to be honest [15:48] it should have disabled them [15:49] well it didn't, but i haven't gotten to the point where im supposed to restart, either, maybe it will disable them prior to the restart phase? [15:49] (didn't disable docker repo, at least) [15:49] if you can still cancel then do it and disable all PPAs [15:49] maybe docker is whitelisted, not sure [15:50] the upgrader disables them, no need to do it manually [15:50] have fun! [15:50] looks like it didnt? [16:19] i guess Python2.7 is completely gone in 22.04 ? [16:20] !info python2.7 [16:20] python2.7 (2.7.18-13ubuntu1.1, jammy): Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.7). In component universe, is optional. Built by python2.7. Size 244 kB / 383 kB [16:20] hans_: It's there, but no longer default installed. [16:20] sudo apt install python2 [16:20] oh nice [16:21] avoid it if you can though [16:21] hans_: Make sure to leave /usr/bin/python as python3 from now on. [16:21] it is EOL since 2020 [16:21] seems the 20.04->22.04 upgrade was a success! \o/ [16:22] but.. it didn't properly upgrade the docker apt source ... disappointing [16:22] Unfortunately it's not backward compatible, so there's plenty of code that fails if it's upgraded. [16:22] RE: python. [16:22] /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list still exists, and still says deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/docker.gpg] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu focal stable [16:22] im sure you can fix that [16:23] it's disappointing that it wasn't addressed. it was neither disabled, nor was "focal" wasn't replaced with "jammy" [16:23] an issue with 22.04's do-release-upgrade imo [16:23] life is full of disappointments [16:23] maybe docker needs a new key? [16:23] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/jammy/ [16:23] you will find out [16:24] someone should complain on the do-release-upgrade bugtracker, where-ever it is? [16:24] someone = you [16:24] yeah, where is the do-release-upgrade bugtracker? [16:24] ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade [16:24] thanks [16:25] *** Problem in do-release-upgrade: The problem cannot be reported: This report is about a package that is not installed. [16:25] lel [16:25] >E: Unable to locate package do-release-upgrade [16:25] ubuntu-release-upgrader-core [16:26] that works! thanks [16:27] >Please wait while bug data is processed. This page will refresh every 10 seconds until processing is complete. [16:27] oh didn't take long ^^ [16:32] hi, any recommendations on using either the `traceroute` vs `inetutils-traceroute` package? ie: which is better? [16:33] reported :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1986842 [16:33] Launchpad bug 1986842 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "20.04->22.04 upgrade does not address /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list" [Undecided, New] [16:34] bn_work: try #ubuntu-offtopic for software opinions [16:35] ok... that's considered off-topic? [16:35] bn_work: i'd go with inetutils-traceroute because i'm familiar with inetutils (: [16:35] bn_work: software opinions are offtopic, yes [16:35] or I guess because this channel is mostly support-focused? [16:36] correct [16:37] fair enough :) PS: thanks hans_ [16:37] vscode repo was disabled by do-release-upgrade, docker repo was not disabled. indeed seems docker.list is in a whitelist :) [16:40] hey all, I have a bluetooth device that I can't seem to connect to my ubuntu machine; connects fine to my ipad and macbook. Looking hopefully for general bt debugging strategies but can provide more detail if someone wants to help with my specific issue [16:41] jak: if you'd like help, please provide the details and someone might chime in [16:42] the device in question is an HHKB Pro Hybrid, which I try to run through the normal device pairing procedure, which either fails halfway through, or seems to pair but then never connects [16:43] I tried using bluetoothctl to pair it, but it just hangs [16:44] for BT issues, i installed Bluez. after pairing, trusting, the normal routine works fine [16:44] !bluez [16:44] !bleuz [16:44] !info bluez [16:44] bluez (5.64-0ubuntu1, jammy): Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Built by bluez. Size 1,081 kB / 3,671 kB. (Only available for linux-any.) [16:45] oerheks: I'll give that a shot, thanks [16:45] just make sure other devices have BT disabled. [16:45] maybe those hijack your HHKB [16:55] ok... #ubuntu-offtopic seems very off-topic, lol [16:55] !discuss | bn_work there's also [16:55] bn_work there's also: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [16:56] (they're talking politics over there) [16:56] ah, thanks lotuspsychje [16:57] im trying to remote connect to my gnome-box(ubuntu) but the local ip that it gets 10.10..2.15 its not the local ip that i have on my host-machine 192.168.0.135 how can i fix this [17:00] wtf, do-release-upgrade installed apache http server o.0 [17:00] why [17:00] i need port 80 for other stuff [17:00] and i already have nginx (running on port 81) [17:01] why does do-release-upgrade's 20.04->22.04 install apache httpd? [17:12] fwiw asked on askubuntu, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1424150/why-does-do-release-upgrade-20-04-22-04-install-apache-httpd [17:12] hans_: Hard to say if the original wasn't a clean, untouched new install. Too many variables. [17:13] hans_: Was it a desktop system? A server? [17:14] jhutchins: it wasn't. all i know for certain is that it was installed fresh sometime in 2022 (because it's specifically named "DevAd22", the 22 referring to the year of creation) [17:14] jhutchins: a desktop system, [17:15] hans_: It definitely sounds like a bug, a spurious dependency, but it's really hard to track down. [17:15] looking at the release-upgrade logs would probably help [17:17] ohhh seems related to php-something [17:17] https://paste.debian.net/plain/1250775 [17:17] i have php-cli and php-fpm installed, configured to be used by nginx [17:18] and you use aptitude [17:18] yeah i googled "how to see why a package is installed", and the first result said "use aptitude", so i installed aptitude [17:19] is that bad somehow? [17:20] hans_: You might have to manually examine the dependency lists for php-cli and php-fpm. They should be met by a generic "web server" which nginx should provide. [17:21] hans_: You should be able to have both installed without over-riding port 80 anyway, that's a separate issue. [17:22] hans_: Can you confirm that Apache took over the port? [17:23] it did, but the port was free-ish anyway. my nginx is configured to use port 81, and docker only bind to port 80 on request/docker-compose-invocation, it was available when i ran do-release-upgrade [17:23] hans_: Actually, if you try to remove Apache, it should tell you what is depending on it. [17:24] hans_: i would not recommend using aptitude for package management these days, but as long as you're just using it to inspect such things its probably safe. note that it resolves dependencies differently than apt, though. [17:24] hans_: So nginx is in a container? [17:24] that's horrifying, i thought both apt and aptitude would tell dpkg to figure it out, or something? [17:25] hans_: apt, apt-get, and aptitude have different resolving processes. [17:25] jhutchins: no, nginx is installed outside any container. (yes i have nginx in a container as well, but i don't think what i have in containers are relevant) [17:26] jhutchins: that's horrifying, someone should centralize that x.x [17:26] waiiiiit, do apt and apt-get use different resolving as well? [17:26] i thought apt was just fancy gui stuff over apt-get? [17:28] where is the do-release-upgrade logs? [17:30] should be in /var/log/dist-upgrade [17:31] yup seems "php" package is to blame, https://termbin.com/ybzhv [17:32] apt and apt-get resolve dependencies the same way. apt is meant to be a more user friendly alterantive for apt-get. [17:32] hans_: It could be that because nginx is in a container, the system as a whole is not aware of it. [17:33] jhutchins: nginx is also outside the container, nginx is installed with `sudo apt-get install nginx-full` [17:33] (but configured to listen on port 81) [17:33] hans_: Ok, rules that out. [17:33] hans_: Looks like you've got a bug to report! [17:36] okay i'll leave it at > it seems that if you have the PHP package installed, but not the apache2 package installed, before upgrading, do-release-upgrade will install apache2 during the upgrade, quoting the upgrade /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log - blah blah more at https://askubuntu.com/a/1424154/462413 [17:37] + [17:38] hans_: Yeah, I think that should be resolved. If there's something in the Apache packages that an nginx/php installation requires, it needs to be provided seperately. [17:38] Apache is a pretty big millstone to be hung on what's supposed to be a lightweight configuration. [17:38] hans_: Raise some hell. [17:43] the php8.1 metapackage which got installed during the upgrade, because you have the php package installed, has some dependencies, which can result in this: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/php8.1 [17:43] but you could just satisfy this differently [17:44] i already had the php-fpm package installed (or at the very least, the php7.4-fpm package installed) which should have satisfied the php8.1 requirements [17:44] i guess it's possible that i only had php7.4-fpm installed, and not php-fpm [17:46] That should still satisfy it. [17:50] I am having a problem compiling GUIX. I have a guile-git which it can't find despite the fact that it has been downloaded from the repository. Anyone have a solution? [17:50] ask #guix [17:51] john: What was your source for the guix code? [17:52] jhutchins, The git repository [17:53] john: sorry, we can only support Ubuntu here. You'll have to seek support from the GUIX vendor/maintainer [17:54] leftyfb: GUIX is supplied in the Ubuntu repositories. [17:54] It's a package manager like Apt and Snap. [17:55] I'm having difficulty getting Ubuntu (latest iso release) to boot after installation with UEFI/secure boot enabled. [17:55] Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Gen10, wondering if I'm doing something wrong [17:55] cluelessperson: disable secure boot [17:55] cluelessperson: What error messages are you getting? [17:55] john: Honestly, a package that is expected to work with ubuntu should be aware of where ubuntu installs it's requirements. This is a flaw in the GUIX dependency list (make file), it needs to be addressed by the GUIX project. [17:56] leftyfb, It is being buildty on ubuntu so if it is a repository problem it might belong here. When I look at the files installed by guile-git I cant find the library, only doc and such [17:56] leftyfb, Is it possible to run with secure boot enabled? [17:56] leftyfb, I want secure boot on I think [17:56] cluelessperson: possible? depends on the hardware, but usually. Worth the trouble? no [17:57] leftyfb: If he wants Secure Boot on, we should help him do that. It's there for a reason. I just need to know the error messages so I can help fix the problem. [17:57] arraybolt3[m], no error messages just blackscreen/reboot [17:57] cluelessperson: Secure boot exists to prevent you from installing linux. That function has been compromised because nobody would put up with it. [17:58] cluelessperson: There is no realistic threat model that Secure boot defends against. [17:58] jhutchins: LOL it can help make FDE work better. [17:58] cluelessperson: Can you get into the GRUB boot menu by pressing Esc just after the screen goes black at early boot? [17:59] arraybolt3[m]: this is the first I'm hearing about this and I'm very skeptical that it's true [17:59] jhutchins: FDE + Secure Boot + BIOS Password = impossible to get into the computer without physically removing the hard drive. That would be useful. [17:59] arraybolt3[m]: you might be thinking of TPM [17:59] jhutchins, my understanding is that the point of secure boot is to prevent boot modifications at the bios level, such that the installing system just has to create it's own key, sign the boot image, and install the public key in the bios. [17:59] jhutchins, I imagine that some of these companies have intentionally made things harder for linux, but on the surface, this concept is something that I value. [18:00] leftyfb, jhutchins: Perhaps a better place for discussing Secure Boot or no Secure Boot would be #ubuntu-discuss? [18:01] cluelessperson: It makes it so that only trusted kernels and modules can be loaded on the system preventing OS-level rootkits from being installed. [18:02] cluelessperson: It was developed by Intel at Microsoft's request to prevent people from installing Linux on systems with OEM installed Windows. Fortunately, Linux had already made significant inroads on the server market, and several large clients informed Intel that they would switch to AMD if it was implemented. Intel compromised by making it optional. [18:03] cluelessperson: It's function is to prevent users from booting to an alternate OS or installer. === jserversione is now known as nonno === nonno is now known as Lucchese [18:04] !secure boot === Lucchese is now known as jserversioni [18:04] Useless bot. [18:04] cluelessperson: If you can get into the GRUB menu by pressing Esc after the screen goes totally black during early boot, we might be able to fix the issue you're having. [18:05] !uefi | jhutchins [18:05] jhutchins: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [18:05] hello [18:05] hi [18:06] jhutchins: Whether Secure Boot is a good idea or not is of no consequence. He wants it on, we want to help him do that. Maybe his business requires it or maybe he's assessed his threat model and knows it will be helpful. Please, let's keep this support focused and save disabling Secure Boot as a last resort. [18:06] crischutu07: Hello, anything we can help you with? [18:06] my first time in here :) [18:07] trying to figure out where pip is installing my mods they aren't getting picked up by the interpreter [18:07] !info pip3 [18:07] crischutu07: Welcome! This is the Ubuntu support channel, where people who are having issues with their Ubuntu systems can ask for help. [18:07] Package pip3 does not exist in jammy [18:07] yeah but pip is doing this [18:08] not pip3 [18:08] bourne_cia, you'll need to be using the correct interpreter [18:08] fresh install too running cinnamon [18:08] bourne_cia, also my suggestion is not to use system pip [18:08] (except for system things) [18:09] the errors I am getting indicate it installs them in a hidden dir in /Home [18:09] I am trying to start a systemd service and its getting Changing to the requested working directory failed: Permission denied I am starting the server as the same user I am logged in with === erverserione is now known as erversione [18:10] bourne_cia, if you're building software, I highly suggest managing python version, packages per project with pyenv and venv [18:10] Minor723, does your user have access to that directory? [18:11] yeah he does [18:11] Yeah its on my users desktop [18:11] I\ll look into pyenv [18:12] <[itchyjunk]> Hello, I have have trouble installing/upgrading stuff via apt (Ubuntu 18.04). It tells me to run `apt --fix-broken install`, but when I do, it tells me the following : https://bpa.st/AN2A [18:12] the program I am developing needs mysql access mysql-conncetors is installed but the interpreter cannot see it [18:12] bourne_cia: ls -d ~/.local/lib/python* [18:13] cluelessperson sorry didnt tag you, the minecraft server files are on a folder on my desktop and i can see the files in the terminal [18:13] Minor723, and yu created a user service (not a system service) file ? [18:13] *you [18:13] ogra yes /etc/systemd/system/minecraft.service [18:14] ogra https://dpaste.com/5ED7BBFAD service file contents [18:14] Minor723, well, ten it ries to run as root ... put it into /etc/systemd/user [18:14] Okay, USB ubuntu iso boots fine, installs ubuntu, reboots, and now the laptop is in a boot loop. [18:14] and use systemctl --user ... to start it [18:14] [itchyjunk]: did you run sudo apt update beforehand? [18:14] "lenovo" -> black screen -> reboot. [18:14] no such dir [18:15] cluelessperson: If we can get into the GRUB menu, we can try to boot Linux in a debug mode that will show us what's going wrong. [18:15] This sounds like a kernel panic to me. [18:16] so mv /etc/systemd/system/minecraft.service /etc/systemd/user/minecraft.service [18:16] ls: cannot access '/home/jason/local/lib/python': No such file or directory [18:16] [itchyjunk]: actually, there are no libpython3.9 packages in bionic (18.04), you're using some third party repository [18:16] Minor723, right, and then systemctl --user enable ... and systemctl --user start ... like you would do normally [18:17] bourne_cia: looks like you missed the trailing * [18:17] * cluelessperson found a "diagnostics" because the people at lenovo don't know it's called "post messages" [18:17] <[itchyjunk]> tomreyn, i did run `sudo apt update` [18:17] ogra i have only ever done this sudo systemctl start minecraftm [18:18] or pre? [18:18] still [18:18] <[itchyjunk]> tomreyn, how do i fix this? :( [18:18]