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arraybolt3[m]I have a possibly silly question. I see that the zlib and libpng use the same license. I'm dealing with a project that had all of libpng included in it, and am writing the debian/copyright file for it. I think I can mark the libpng section as licensed under the zlib license according to this site: https://opensource.org/licenses/Zlib But I can see that older versions of libpng used a different license, and I'm wondering - do I03:13
arraybolt3[m]need to include all of that? If so, I should use libpng as the short name rather than zlib and then include the whole long thing. Which way is more preferable?03:13
arraybolt3[m](If you're wondering why on earth this project incorporates libpng rather than using the version installed on the system, that's how upstream decided to do it, who am I to question them?)03:14
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xypronI am looking for a sponsor for LP #1986664.08:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1986664 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Package HSS payload generator for Polarfire Icicle board" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198666408:52
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mitya57sil2100: Hi! This week bileto builds get stuck for an hour. For example, this one: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/4900/build/5/info/11:29
mitya572022-08-15 19:46:19,755 INFO Point of no return! Job can no longer be cancelled.11:29
mitya572022-08-15 20:46:30,667 INFO Uploaded kinetic/compiz to PPA.11:29
mitya57And later they fail with psycopg2.OperationalError. Can you please look when you have time?11:29
sil2100mitya57: hey! hm, I'll try taking a look11:41
mitya57Here is an example from today: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/4903/build/2/11:42
ahasenackrbasak: hi, hm, any quick tips on how to revert a delta I added to a debian package and make it a sync again, when there is no new debian upload yet?12:32
ahasenackdebian is 4.4.0-4, my upload was 4.4.0-4ubuntu112:32
ahasenackbite the bullet, do a 4ubuntu2 without the delta, and when debian 4.4.0-5 comes along, sync it?12:32
rbasakYeah that works. I think there was some other thing mentioned on ubuntu-devel@ recently12:34
* rbasak looks12:34
ahasenackmaybe upload 4.4.0-4.1, or 4.4.0-5~build1 (ugh)?12:35
ahasenackunsure if I can upload something without an ubuntu suffix, though12:35
rbasakYou can. There's no limitation there.12:35
rbasakHere's the thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-May/042099.html12:37
ahasenack"Version string to auto-sync an Ubuntu delta (maysync1 vs ~willsync1)12:37
ahasenack"12:37
ahasenackthat one?12:37
ahasenackyep12:37
rbasakI'm not sure that really helps here.12:39
rbasakIt used to be the norm for everyone to check their own TIL using grep-merges in time for feature freeze.12:41
rbasakThat method would work.12:41
rbasakWhich reminded me that I should do that.12:41
rbasakLooks like I have a few :-/12:41
ahasenackI subscribe to the debian tracker for the packages I touched12:42
ahasenackworks quite well12:42
ahasenackhm, I can't use `maysync` here because it's lower than ubuntu12:43
rbasakRight12:43
rbasakThat's what I meant by "not sure that really helps here"12:43
ahasenacki can use willsync, but that creates the problem if we need another ubuntu update to the package before the sync happens12:43
rbasakRight :)12:43
rbasakTurns out that overloading the version string like this doesn't really work12:44
rbasak(or, at least, breaks these edge cases)12:44
ahasenackI guess 4.4.0-4ubuntu2 is the easiest one to understand, even though it will have zero delta12:44
ahasenackor 4.4.0-5~build1 perhaps12:44
ahasenackis that too ugly?12:44
* ahasenack searches for prior art12:45
rbasakI would use ubuntu2 I think.12:46
rbasakThe later merge will be trivial. We just have to notice and do it; that's all.12:46
ahasenackwhat about 4.4.0-4u3?12:46
ahasenackI mean, 4.4.0-4u212:48
ahasenacktoo mysterious?12:48
ahasenackthe changelog would make it clear what happened12:48
ahasenackI'll email that thread and wait a few hours12:48
rbasak4.4.0-4u2 is lower than the current 4.4.0-4ubuntu1 though I think? It's the same issue.12:50
rbasakYou can't switch back and forth without running out of hacks.12:50
rbasakSince they have to be ordered12:51
ahasenackoh? I didn't test yet, but it was mentioned as one alternative in that thread12:51
ahasenacklet me check12:51
ahasenackah12:51
ahasenackhmpf12:51
ahasenackor keep using u3, u4, u512:51
ahasenackyeah, it's lower12:52
rbasakI suppose it's possible to use -1ubuntu1 -> -1willsync1 -> -1willsync1notreally1ubuntu1 -> -1willsync1really1 etc12:52
rbasakI think it's cleaner to just forget about it and use grep-merges/TIL.12:53
ahasenackyeah13:12
ahasenackI *could* use 4.4.0-5~willsync113:32
ahasenackjust like ~build1, but with a somewhat clearer indication that it's not just a rebuild, but an intent-to-sync13:33
ahasenackand we we then add delta, hm, ubuntu is lower than w13:33
ahasenackoh well13:33
ahasenackrabbit hole warning13:33
ahasenackin that sense, 4.4.0-5~build1 is better, we can still use 4.4.0-5~ubuntu113:33
ahasenacklater13:33
rbasakschopin: please could you merge ruby-mysql2?13:36
rbasakLogan_: please could you merge rp-pppoe?13:38
ueberallHi. Anyone knows why it's now possible to copy files into non-existent directories in debian/rules Makefiles on Debian Sid, but the same (still) fails on Ubuntu Kinetic/Jammy/Focal? (See OpenSSL 3.0.5-2, for example.)14:39
oSoMoNsil2100, bug #1985066 points out that with refresh app awareness being enabled by default, updates to the firefox snap won't be installed while it is running. This is true, can we maybe add a line in the release notes to make it explicit?15:01
ubottuBug 1985066 in firefox (Ubuntu) "cannot refresh snap 'firefox': snap 'firefox' has running apps (firefox)" [Undecided, Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198506615:01
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ograoSoMoN, they will be applied ... but with a 60day delay 😉16:28
ogra(after the timer runs out, you get a forced upgrade even with the app running)16:29
oSoMoNogra, right, but coming from 20.04 where firefox was delivered as a deb and upgraded silently in the background (being a security update), this is indeed a change in the default behaviour16:30
ograyeah16:31

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