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* Unit193 awaits ahasenack's return.06:07
ogayotHi, could an AA look at the following upload? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencolorio/2.1.2+dfsg1-3ubuntu1 ; there is a new binary package libopencolorio2.1. Thanks!11:37
ahasenackis something wrong with the main archive site? I got this for armhf and arm64 now:12:24
ahasenackE: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/kinetic/main/binary-arm64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.36 80]12:24
ahasenackops, sorry for the noise, it's a very different url12:34
ahasenackI just moved my lxd profile from my amd64 host to a pi4 box, and didn't realize the archive urls need changing12:34
ricotzRikMills, hi :), is KDE going to use QT6 as default in kinetic?13:16
ricotzhmm, I guess that answers my question - https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_613:21
RikMillsricotz: indeed, no13:38
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ricotzRikMills, are you pushing more qt6-abi rebuilds? :) - like pyqt6, calibre16:04
RikMillsricotz: calibre doesn't need it, as there is calibre in -proposed that just needs retrying when qt6-webengine has built16:06
RikMillsothers are pointless until webengine has built. the I will do them16:06
RikMills*then I16:07
ricotzRikMills, thanks!16:08
RikMillsnp16:08
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Unit193ahasenack: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/wireguard/-/merge_requests/6#note_330684 pinged dkg, but like I said seems fine.  I can no longer merge/upload wireguard to Ubuntu so I guess you'll have to merge/sync though.20:49
ubottuMerge 6 in debian/wireguard "New DEP8 and build-time tests" [Opened]20:50
ahasenackUnit193: that's because of the MIR promotion of wireguard?21:12
sarnoldyeah :(21:12
ahasenackhm21:12
ahasenackUnit193: but you do upload it in debian, right?21:13
Unit193I took a look at the package last night or so, I plan to drop all patches and make other adjustments.21:13
Unit193ahasenack: Yes, I seem to be the most active on it now.21:13
Unit193I defer to dkg because he's actually the maintainer, but I'm in 'uploaders'.21:14
ahasenackI'm subscribed to it in the debian tracker, I will get notified of any uploads or bugs even21:14
ahasenackso I don't think ubuntu will fall behind21:14
Unit193Great.  That's actually how I got sucked into this, Ubuntu fell far behind and I did a few merges.21:15
ahasenackah, famous TIL21:16
Unit193I think after the DEP8 upload, we can just sync.  The flip of the recommends shouldn't really matter too much anymore.21:17
ahasenackI think so too21:19
ahasenackbut I'll recheck when the time gomes21:22
ahasenackcomes21:22
ahasenackthere was something about ubuntu cloud images that kept the recommends flip in place back then21:22
ahasenackI have links to irc conversations with apw about that21:23
ahasenacknot just cloud images, but if you happen to be on a kernel that doesn't have the module, then dkms would be pulled in and just do the right thing21:24
ahasenacksomething like that21:24
Unit193Basically it could pull in a hwe kernel or one of the other kernels when pulling in the dkms module would have been the sane option.21:24
ahasenackbut since dpkg doesn't check the *running* kernel, I don't remember how this could work in all cases21:24
Unit193Since it should now be everywhere...21:24
Unit193I think it's also time for wireguard-linux-compat to be removed from Debian (and Ubuntu too I imagine.)21:26
ahasenackif debian gets rid of it first,  it's much easier for ubuntu to follow21:28
ahasenackbut I remember upstream commenting in a bug about that, objecting. Or am i mixing up things, maybe upstream objected to the dkms removal21:28
sarnoldI can't find that package via apt-cache show wireguard-linux-compat  on any of my machines that are turned on21:28
vorlonfor awareness, I've just uploaded an openssh package to kinetic that switches sshd to use systemd socket activation.  Please yell at me if you see any regressions https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kinetic-changes/2022-August/005198.html21:28
Unit193sarnold: wireguard-linux-compat is the source package, wireguard-dkms is the binary.21:33
sarnoldahhhhhhh21:33
sarnoldI shoulda checked the machine that's turned off :)21:33
arraybolt3Is it worth keeping around my original 22.04 ISOs for potential future use in testing, or is it an OK idea to chuck them and only keep the 22.04.1 ISOs?23:07
vorlonarraybolt3: do whatever you want with them? they'll still be available for download from old-releases.u.c23:11
arraybolt3The flavors, not usually. Multiple flavor ISOs are just gone from there.23:12
vorlonoh for flavors, right23:12
arraybolt3I usually pull "missing" ISOs from Archive.org but there's no guarantee that they'll be there.23:12
arraybolt3(Also, out of curiosity, *why* are the flavor ISOs deleted even from old-releases?)23:12
vorlonwell I would say there's diminishing value in testing the .0 ISOs that aren't even available for download23:12
Unit193arraybolt3: Keep the torrent files, hope for the best?23:13
vorlonarraybolt3: old-releases has always been an archive of releases; we've never retained cdimage.u.c content there23:13
arraybolt3Yeah, I just thought for regression testing and that sort of thing. But I don't think it will be needed - if there's a regression, it can be verified with a downgraded package.23:13
arraybolt3vorlon: Hmm, there certainly are a lot of ancient Ubuntu flavor ISOs on there. Just curious since they can be rather valuable in some instances.23:14
arraybolt3Unit193: If only I could torrent safely with my ISP...23:14
Unit193Weird, as long as they're legal torrents the ISP shouldn't care. :/23:14
vorlonmoreover, it's decreasingly important whether a bug is a regression vs the release pocket23:15
vorlonwe don't undo a point release because someone found a regression 3 months later23:15
arraybolt3Unit193: They are legal, but I'm on cellular internet (T-Mobile hotspot through Calyx Institute) and T-Mobile considers BitTorrent to be network abuse. :( I could try it, but they might throttle me down beyond all reason.23:15
vorlonand if you're testing for regressions in individual packages in -updates, as opposed to of the installer, there are more efficient ways of doing that23:16
arraybolt3vorlon: Good point. I guess I'll save on disk space then and clear out the old ones.23:16
Unit193vorlon: Can be helpful to find at what stage the regression hit so as to help figure out what change caused it.23:16
Unit193Note: "Can be"23:16
arraybolt3Unit193: My use case for very old Ubuntu flavor releases is mostly out of preference - sometimes you've gotta run some ancient app in a VM and would rather do it with KDE4 than with Unity. But I'm getting off-topic now.23:17
vorlonarraybolt3: "ancient Ubuntu flavor ISOs" - well kubuntu and edubuntu once upon a time were distributed from releases.u.c; the others are on there by accident, but unfortunately they've been deleted from the source but this doesn't reflect on the web frontend23:22
arraybolt3Ah, that makes sense to me.23:23

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