[01:42] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[10:40] <lotuspsychje_> tested riseupVPN snap, tip from arraybolt3 
[10:40] <lotuspsychje_> pretty cool stuff
[11:00] <ogra> i wonder why it is classic though ...
[11:40] <oerheks> surprise !!!   https://askubuntu.com/questions/1424960/weird-login-message-20-04-4-lts-wants-to-upgrade-to-22-04-1-lts 🤣
[11:40] <oerheks> happy monday
[11:52] <oerheks> i answered this https://askubuntu.com/a/1424992/64683
[19:56] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue749 now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue749 :D
[21:12] <Guest30> Hi, I am wondering if the windows 10 privacy concerns are still a valid reason to swtich to linux? Are windows 10 privacy issues still a concern?
[21:15] <tomreyn> Guest30: most people here are probably more into Ubuntu than into Windows, but for all I know, the privacy issues of windows 10 have not drecreased, or only marginally, and windows 11 makes them worse.
[21:15] <sarnold> thousands of people don't seem to mind
[21:15] <tomreyn> that, too
[21:15] <Guest30> If I google news it, I don´t find anything and this has me baffled
[21:15] <jhutchins> Which is how it makes money for Microsoft & friends.
[21:16] <jhutchins> Guest30: That's because nobody's bothering to discuss it, it's a dead issue.
[21:16] <jhutchins> Guest30: Privacy is not the reeason people choose Linux over Windows.
[21:16] <sarnold> the gigantic company that makes vast amounts of money selling hyper-targetted advertising doesn't just automatically tell you about the other gigantic company that makes a tiny bit of money via moderately-targeted advertising? :)
[21:16] <oerheks> google is your main privacy concerm
[21:17] <jhutchins> That or thinking that anything you do on the Internet is "private".
[21:17] <oerheks> and it does not show search results, but '  how do i feel today' results
[21:18] <sarnold> and not even that many of them http://googlesearchonlyreturns400results.lol/
[21:19] <sarnold> anyway, you'll have to examine the privacy policies of the companies you choose to do business with and decide for yourself if you think you're getting good value for the trade or not
[21:19] <jhutchins> Guest30: Unlike Windows, Ubuntu is not a monolithic system developed by one controlling corporation, it's a collection of software from many sources.
[21:20] <jhutchins> Guest30: Some may "respect privacy" more than others.  Most are not likely to care.
[21:20] <jhutchins> (Some have adorable tin foil hats.)
[21:20] <oerheks> That is why there are no genuine statistics about number users, what programs they use, and so on
[21:21] <ogra> there surely are ... just not public and free ...
[21:26] <daftykins> surely you're not saying YOLD already arrived but it's being covered up? xD
[21:28] <Guest30> thanks for sharing your perspectives, very interesting. I am tired,  going to log off. Have a nice evening
[22:03] <arraybolt3> sarnold: LOL I just looked at that page you linked to and Google is only giving me 200 results for "vector" :-S
[22:05] <arraybolt3> Eh, but I can get it to give me more if I let it give me results similar to the ones already displayed.
[22:08] <arraybolt3> But then it stops at 400 again. Weird.
[22:33] <sarnold> arraybolt3: right??
[22:36] <arraybolt3> sarnold: Were you the one who posted that site?
[22:38] <sarnold> arraybolt3: 'posted' as in pasting the link here, yeah; someone else noticed, got annoyed, registered the site, put up the content, etc :)
[22:38] <arraybolt3> Ah. Just was surprising you found it so quickly after it was registered.
[22:44] <sarnold> ah :) yeah