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oerheksfirmware is completely something else than uefi.00:02
rfmuh, the f in uefi stands for firmware...00:03
oerheksupdates can pull in firmware for various devices.00:04
oerheksas extention to UEFI indeed00:04
webchat30starts from Xubuntu (boot override) but still the problem00:08
arraybolt3webchat30: So Xubuntu doesn't boot at all, but just gives the message?00:10
arraybolt3If so, we'll need a live USB to sort this out.00:10
webchat30I turn on the PC, the options to select the operating system (grub) appear, I selected xubuntu and I get the message "shim lock protocol not found" and "kernel must be loaded first"00:17
arraybolt3Oh that's weird. Can you select "Advanced Options for Ubuntu" and try to boot an older kernel?00:17
arraybolt3Also what version of Xubuntu is this?00:18
webchat30Xubuntu 22.04 (Linux 5.15.0-46) and the same error with older kernel, even if i try to boot windows i get the same (but if i boot first with windows boot manager if windows boots)00:23
webchat30Ok, I have live USB (Xubuntu) and now, what's next?00:24
arraybolt3webchat30: To me it sounds like GRUB is borked, so hopefully a simple reinstall should fix it.00:26
arraybolt3webchat30: So what I'd do is pop open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T.00:26
arraybolt3webchat30: Next, we need to looks at the list of disks in the system. To do that, type "lsblk" and press Enter. This should let you figure out which disk is your main disk. If you're unsure, run "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link that spits out - that will let me look at it.00:27
arraybolt3(Also, just in case you didn't know, please don't paste large amounts of command output into the chat, that messes things up and will trigger a bot to mute you for a bit. Use pastebins like termbin.com.)00:27
arraybolt3(Also bpa.st is another good pastebin.)00:28
webchat30Do I open the terminal running Xubuntu from the live USB?00:36
arraybolt3Yes.00:37
bobdobbsHi all. Is there a way, using gnome, to take a screenshot with a key-comination?00:45
arraybolt3bobdobbs: Does Print Screen not work?00:45
arraybolt3Or do you not have a Print Screen key?00:45
bobdobbsprtscr doesn't work, no. It opens up a dialogue.00:45
bobdobbsI want to take a screenshot with a key-combination. Not using a dialogue00:46
bobdobbsUsing a dialogue means that the cursor state and position won't be captured in the screenshot00:46
arraybolt3bobdobbs: Shift+Print Screen works for me.00:47
webchat30I already did it, I know which is the main disk and its partitions.  what do I do now?00:47
arraybolt3webchat30: OK, so do "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt", where sdX is the main drive and Y is the root partition.00:48
arraybolt3(For instance, "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt" - this may or may not be right for your system, but that's the idea of the command.)00:49
bobdobbsarraybolt3: oh damn. That actually does work for me... except that it doesn't capture the mouse position and state!00:49
bobdobbsI'm trying to take screenshots to show a client how to make an edit to their website. I need to show them a screenshot with the mouse position/state showing.00:50
arraybolt3bobdobbs: Hmm... using just Print Screen and then selecting to capture the mouse pointer works but it requires the extra step of clicking the Capture button.00:51
arraybolt3(The mouse pointer button in the lower-right corner of the screenshotter UI is the "show pointer" button.)00:51
bobdobbsarraybolt3: yeah. But because you have to move the mouse to the UI, the mouse won't show in screenshot00:53
arraybolt3bobdobbs: Try it, it works for me and shows the mouse where I left it. Like, here's a screenshot with the mouse underneath the clock.00:53
bobdobbsI've tried it. It doesn't work for me.00:53
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webchat30How can I find out which is the root partition?  is it where you install "/"?00:54
arraybolt3webchat30: Yes.00:54
rayffhello00:55
arraybolt3rayff: \o00:55
arraybolt3bobdobbs: Sorry, not sure what else will work then. Maybe someone else here will know.00:55
oerheksalt + scrnsht works, without dialog01:01
oerheksthe dialog will say you can copy paste it from clipboard, i use CopyQ01:01
oerheksnot sure it captures mouse..01:02
oerheksah, copyQ gives an option in settings, ' capture with mouse'01:03
webchat30I already did it (sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p6 /mnt) although apparently nothing happened, and now?01:03
arraybolt3webchat30: Next, identify your EFI partition (should be /dev/nvme0n1p1), and do "sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1pX /mnt/boot/efi", replacing X as appropriate.01:04
webchat30Ok, next step01:09
webchat30same as before after "sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mint/boot/efi" nothing happened01:12
webchat30What's next now?01:13
Bashing-omwebchat30: "/mint/boot/efi" ?? >> should that not be /mnt/boot/efi - that is mnt .01:17
webchat30What's is the next step after sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt/boot/efi? (mint because orographic correction on my phone 😂)01:19
arraybolt3webchat30: Sorry for the long dealy01:28
arraybolt3s/dealy/delay/01:28
arraybolt3webchat30: Next is "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys".01:29
arraybolt3(Each of the mount commands separated by && can be typed in one at a time, or you can copypaste the whole thing all at once if you want to.)01:29
webchat30I do it, wait please01:31
webchat30After "sudo mount --bind /dev/mnt/dev" the answer said "mount point does not exist"01:38
arraybolt3You or I failed to put a space after the first "/dev".01:39
arraybolt3Or there's a different typo somewhere in the command.01:39
webchat30Correct, my fail, the space was missing, I will continue with the other commands01:44
webchat30Ok, all commands entered. Next step01:48
webchat30I still here waiting the next step02:00
matsamanarraybolt3:02:04
matsamanI haven't done an EFI install in ages or I'd chime in02:04
webchat30What is the next step? Help!02:18
jhutchins!fixgrub02:29
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jhutchinswebchat30: No, that's not it.02:31
jhutchinswebchat30: Turn SecureBoot off.  It's as simple as that.\02:31
jhutchinsfirst google hit for "shim lock".02:32
jhutchinsYou've been at this for three hours?02:32
webchat30I give up, I'm going to reinstall everything and disable secure boot02:36
Rockwoodhi02:37
matsamanhi rock02:37
Rockwoodi am facing issue of space02:37
Rockwoodmatsaman, o/02:37
enigma9o7[m]secure boot sounds like a hassle.  i'd disable that too if my pc offered it.02:38
Rockwoodnpm ERR! nospc ENOSPC: no space left on device, write02:38
enigma9o7[m]great scott!02:38
matsamanRockwood: well you need to remove some files02:38
matsamanRockwood: or back them up02:38
matsamanprobably there is plenty you can remove that isn't important, though02:38
Rockwoodi just added phpmyadmin folder02:38
matsamanRockwood: https://wiki.debian.org/DiskFreeSpace02:38
Rockwoodis possible to resize it?02:39
matsamanhttps://wiki.debian.org/DiskFreeSpace#Find_things_to_erase02:39
matsamanRockwood: resize a directory?02:39
enigma9o7[m]if it is a partition, yes02:39
enigma9o7[m]if it is a disk, no02:39
enigma9o7[m]if the parittion already fills the disk, no02:39
Rockwood<enigma9o7[m]> if it is a partition, yes   <-- yes this is i want02:40
webchat30thanks to everyone (except Microsoft which is the root of all problems) Bye02:40
Rockwoodtc02:40
matsamannot sure why you'd put phpmyadmin on its own partition02:40
enigma9o7[m]I wouldnt.02:40
Rockwoodbcz i wanna handle mysql in easy way02:40
Rockwoodevery time i have to open terminal and enter from there02:41
nunyaI was able to open a text file as a program in ubuntu 20.04 Now that I've upgraded to 22.04 the file doesn't open as a program it opens as a text file with gedit. In file properties is is still ticked to allow to open as program. How do I get it to run the commands in the file rather than opening it with gedit?02:41
Rockwoodmatsaman, i can manage from terminal but just make thing easy to me02:42
RockwoodVscode also having Mysql plugin02:42
Rockwoodbut i am unable to use that02:43
arraybolt3nunya: I think you need to tweak your Nautilus settings.02:43
arraybolt3Hold on, lemme find it...02:44
nunyaarraybolt3: ok what do you mean? I used to be able to run it from the desktop or thunar. I don't like nautilus02:45
arraybolt3nunya: Oh you're on Xubuntu then?02:45
arraybolt3(Sorry, I'm using Ubuntu. Xubuntu is supported here, but the two have different file managers so I didn't know.)02:45
matsamannunya: probably right click, properties or whatever, run via terminal/shell/etc02:45
matsamanRockwood: anyway, running out of space is bad, so just make some room02:46
nunyaarraybolt3: no I'm using thunar on ubuntu 22.04 and it works well for everything except running files as programs evidently02:46
Rockwoodmatsaman, thanks for guide02:47
arraybolt3Ah. I'm hitting the same problem even on Nautilus, so... :(02:47
Rockwoodi  am thinking to remove phpmyadmin back02:47
arraybolt3nunya: Hmm... I can right-click and click "open as a program" over here, maybe you have a similar feature?02:47
arraybolt3(Not ideal, but if nothing else it's something. I'm still looking for the ideal solution.)02:47
matsamanhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/56241166/how-to-run-sh-file-by-double-clicking-in-xfce02:48
arraybolt3nunya: OK, I know Linux Mint is not Ubuntu, but this forum post has how to re-enable the ability to execute things in Thunar even if there's no option in the preferences to enable it: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=20230302:50
matsamanit is ubuntu, but not enough for this channel =P02:50
arraybolt3matsaman: Well, yeah. My point was the post might contain the solution but don't get too minty around here :P02:52
matsaman=P02:52
nunyaarraybolt3: thanks I used to just double click any files that had run as program set in properties. Some upgrade this turned out to be. Adde steps to run file as program,I can't change desktop icon spacing without editing /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ding@rastersoft.com/enums.js There used to be a gui for that. It's like every upgrade strips something els out of functionality.02:52
matsamanGNOME is pretty big on hiding things02:53
matsamanfollowing Apple's lead02:53
nunyaWhere do I give Ubuntu Developers Feedback about these kinds of things?02:54
arraybolt3nunya: Oddly enough, on Thunar over here, there's an option under Edit > Preferences that says "Run executable text files when opened".02:54
arraybolt3It's in the Behavior section of the preferences.02:54
matsamannunya: nowhere, it's a GNOME issue02:55
nunyaarraybolt3: thanks the forum link was very helpful!02:55
arraybolt3matsaman: I'm pretty sure this is an XFCE issue.02:55
arraybolt3nunya: Glad to be able to help!02:56
matsamanI mean you can tell them you don't like it and they might do something about it, but still a GNOME issue02:56
matsamanarraybolt3: anything to do with /usr/share/gnome-shell/ is a GNOME issue, however02:56
arraybolt3matsaman: Oh right, I forgot there were two things we were talking about.02:56
matsamanso many things02:58
arraybolt3I wonder if Budgie is any better?02:58
arraybolt3Or KDE. If you ever wanted something that gives you copious amounts of options, KDE is the way.02:59
Rockwoodmatsaman, what do you use as backend development environment?02:59
matsamanRockwood: you mean in the realm of phpmyadmin?03:06
Rockwoodno03:06
Rockwoodwhat do you use php node or any other?03:06
matsamanarraybolt3: been happy with Xfce for decades03:07
Rockwoodbackend programming03:07
matsamanoh03:07
matsamanI'm lucky enough to be in the python world right now03:07
matsamanit's all the same as far as programming03:07
matsamanbut as far as implementation, PHP's is... bad03:07
Rockwoodmatsaman,  thne?03:07
Rockwoodthen?03:07
matsamanthen what?03:07
Rockwoodi am using which one you use mostly as backend?03:08
Rockwoodlol03:08
Rockwoodi am using php03:08
arraybolt3matsaman: I used to use XFCE, it was really nice. I'm currently on GNOME for the sake of possibly making all my GNOME programs work better... but I'm somewhat regretting that decision and plan on jumping to either Budgie or LXQt next.03:08
Rockwoodand which one you use mostly as backend?03:08
matsamanmmm, use python at work, and bash personally03:08
Rockwoodis python easy03:08
Rockwood?03:08
matsamanyeah03:09
matsamanphp, python, perl, javascript, they're all pretty close03:09
matsamanpython's interpreter & stdlib, security is a lot better than php's, but just programming with either one is not going to be so incredibly different03:10
matsamanlot lot lot of PHP work out there still for some reason03:10
matsamanwouldn't be my first choice for personal scripts, but it makes sense to use what you know03:11
Rockwoodyeah php having lots of huddles i am agree with your statement03:13
Rockwoodlive streaming is concern right now03:13
Rockwoodmatsaman, enigma9o7[m] thanks03:15
Rockwoodcya03:15
webchat30Hey people, it's me again. I solved the "shim lock not found" problem on my dual boot, it was only an option in the bios03:28
webchat30Bios/advanced mode/boot/secure boot/OS type change to "other OS"03:29
webchat30On Asus h97 plus mainboard03:29
oerheksthat was arraybolt3 pointing too, also my 1st clue besides bios update03:30
oerhekshave fun, webchat3003:30
arraybolt3webchat30: Glad it worked!03:31
arraybolt3(I had to go away from keyboard for quite a while earlier, sorry that I randomly stopped responding.)03:31
webchat30I'm happy, thanks again to all for your help, the important thing is that the problem was solved, I just hope that the changes made in the terminal will not damage anything.03:33
arraybolt3Nah, all we did was mount stuff, we didn't actually make any changes.03:35
webchat30that's great.  thanks and bye03:36
arraybolt3o/03:36
stolencan i install wine on ubuntu 16.04 LTS ESM ?04:03
oerheksit is not part of the core packages. so if you tried, and failed, no.04:05
stolenokay04:05
sivik_anyone have any experience with routing public traffic from hosta to an ip on hostb with a gre tunnel?04:31
sivik_https://imgur.com/LYPfKz604:32
sivik_getting ip 189.182 responding from my pc without a static route between my pc and host a04:32
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Guest56upgrade removed my kicad-5.1 package and wont install kicad-6 due to "unmet dependencies" @https://pastebin.mozilla.org/POUCM3pi05:27
oerheksguest on what ubuntu version?05:29
arraybolt3Guest56: You might have better luck by using Aptitude to install it rather than plain apt. You can get Aptitude with "sudo apt install aptitude".05:30
arraybolt3It should tell you why stuff isn't installable or isn't going to be installed, and offer solutions.05:31
oerheksand did you run updates properly, before installing?05:32
oerheksold lists can cause this too05:32
Guest56yes, i did all upgrades05:33
oerheksand what ubuntu version?05:33
Guest56"E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate"05:33
oerheksyou should have started wit that05:33
Guest5622.0405:34
oerheksaptitude is in universe repo, AFAIK05:34
arraybolt3[m]What's "/etc/apt/sources.list" look like? (Pastebin it, please!)05:35
arraybolt3[m](If apt can't find aptitude, something has gotten badly broken.)05:35
arraybolt3[m]!pastebin05:35
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oerhekskicad is available in softwarecenter.. easy peasy05:35
Guest56cause was: sources.list missing 'universe multiverse' on source lines05:36
oerheksenable it in software settings05:36
Guest56cause was: default URLs too slow in china, many moons ago had switched to local sources, local source definitions did not have these05:37
Guest56doing an update now, hopefully fixes, thanks05:37
arraybolt3[m]👍️ Glad we were able to help!05:37
Guest56upgrade took the old source lines and copied them without checking them05:37
Guest56maybe could file a bug to have it do basic sanity checks before updating sources.list05:38
Guest56lines written with "automatically generated by distro upgrade" or whatever look overly authoritative when actually they are not05:39
arraybolt3I see your point. I might be able to reproduce the problem and potentially make a bug report.05:39
Guest56cheers05:39
Guest56thanks everyone05:39
arraybolt3Sure thing, and good luck!05:40
squidsworldWazzzzahhh05:53
SpeedrunnerG55im trying to change mt gnome shell with user themes, but whenever I try to change it, nothing changes06:05
SpeedrunnerG55my*06:05
asusrajiv_identify darkenergy06:07
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SpeedrunnerG55user these in the gnome extensions site wont stay on, ill turn it on, refresh the page then it is back off06:12
SpeedrunnerG55themes*06:13
cosmicrajivhow do i install deb firefox in ubuntu 22.04.1 side by side wit snap firefox?06:23
cosmicrajivwith*06:24
oerhekssudo dpkg -i <deb>06:27
arraybolt3[m]cosmicrajiv: PPA?06:30
oerhekshe did not say where that deb comes from..06:31
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa gives an old version06:32
arraybolt3[m]Looks like they also package new versions in there too.06:33
oerheksESR maybe ..06:33
arraybolt3[m]I'm seeing version 104 in there.06:33
oerheks(Newer version available)06:33
arraybolt3[m]It used to just be ESR but it looks like they changed that.06:33
oerheksno06:34
arraybolt3[m](Weird thing is that 104 sorta seems like it might be a beta, since the latest version of Firefox according to the website is 103.0.2.)06:34
RikMills104 is current beta06:34
oerheksoh dear, we get 103 .. https://snapcraft.io/firefox06:35
arraybolt3[m]oerheks: Looks like "Newer version available" is just pointing to the Snap package - I'm guessing the version number of the Snap transitional package is set to be "newer" than anything else?06:35
oerheksarraybolt3[m], that may be right, yes.06:36
RikMillsoh, wait. 104 build2 could be an RC06:37
arraybolt3[m]Still ESR is better than Snap for someone who can't deal with the limitations of the Snap Firefox.06:37
RikMillsarraybolt3[m]: the snap transitional has an epoch06:37
RikMillsyeah, 104-build2 is the 2nd release candidate for 104 final06:40
RikMillsthere is also a build3 on the mozilla ftp06:40
orca_my laptop wont even start snap firefox06:42
orca_it just spinning circle then stops06:42
orca_too slow i think06:42
orca_celeron n402006:42
arraybolt3[m]orca_: Care to run "firefox" in a terminal and put whatever output it gives in a pastebin for us to see?06:42
arraybolt3[m]!pastebin06:42
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orca_im not on ubuntu right now06:43
arraybolt3[m]Oh.06:43
orca_i have to install it again. i installed manjaro because of the reason it wouldnt start06:43
arraybolt3[m]Well, if you run Firefox from a terminal, it should tell you why it isn't starting (albeit in geeky terms), and that why may help us find a solution to the problem.06:43
orca_ok yeah06:44
cosmicrajivarraybolt3[m]: what is the ppa for that?06:44
arraybolt3[m]oerheks pasted it above, lemme find it...06:44
arraybolt3[m]https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa06:44
arraybolt3[m]cosmicrajiv: ^06:44
cosmicrajivoh yeah..06:45
IwancheHello team,06:50
IwancheCan someone help me with a sound problem with my notebook06:51
IwanchePlease, can someone add a kernel fix for ROG Zephyrus S17 GX701LWS_GX701LWS, Subsystem Id: 0x10431f01.06:52
IwancheThis is what a quirk should look like:06:52
Iwanche+SND_PCI_QUIRK(0x1043, 0x1f01, “ASUS GX701L”, ALC294_FIXUP_ASUS_SPK)06:52
Iwanche[pincfg]06:52
Iwanche0x19 0x03A1105006:52
Iwanche0x1a 0x03A11C3006:52
ravage!bug | Iwanche06:53
ubottuIwanche: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.06:53
Iwanche!bug06:56
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.06:56
Iwanchehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/198724907:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1987249 in linux (Ubuntu) "Asus ROG Zephyrus GX701L sound problem" [Undecided, New]07:04
cosmicrajivarraybolt3[m]: installed the esr version of firefox from the ppa link you provided. it is definitely a little better than firefox snap.07:05
arraybolt3[m]cosmicrajiv: \o/07:06
ravageIwanche, did you try to apply that patch? does it work?07:06
cosmicrajivis it keep updated through "apt update" command?07:06
ravageif you have a .patch file for that please attach it. with the current bug report i would not even know which file that is07:06
IwancheUnfortunately, I don't know how to do that, or rather I don't know how to compile the kernel.07:07
arraybolt3[m]cosmicrajiv: It should stay updated, yes. Unless the packages are designed poorly which I seriously doubt.07:07
arraybolt3[m]Iwanche: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel07:07
cosmicrajiv arraybolt3[m]: its developed by ubuntu community or mozilla?07:08
arraybolt3[m]cosmicrajiv: I believe it's developed by the community, or, that is, very high-ranking members of the community.07:09
arraybolt3[m]Those people should know what they're doing, since they also are Ubuntu developers and at least one of them is a Canonical employee.07:09
arraybolt3[m](Er, multiple of them are Ubuntu developers and at least one is a Canonical employee.)07:09
cosmicrajivarraybolt3[m: that's good. and i think i am using the esr version more than the snap for now.07:10
arraybolt3[m]I guess I should say "Multiple very high-ranking members and other trusted members of the community", since I see not *all* of them are Ubuntu developers... but a lot of them are, so yeah, if anyone knows what they're doing, it's them.07:12
cosmicrajivyeah.07:13
murmelnow we need the same with chromium :>07:14
cosmicrajivarraybolt3[m}: by the way i think the snap version is really improved a lot in 22.04.1 compared to 22.04.07:14
arraybolt3[m]cosmicrajiv: Agreed.07:14
cosmicrajivthe speed is definitely improves a lot07:14
cosmicrajivarraybolt3[m}; I saw a lot of criticism about how snap is taking up a lot more storage. but when compared to flatpaks i don' t  see any truth in those statements. Because when i compared both side by side they almost took similar storge, in fact snaps are taking less.07:18
cosmicrajivbut that's by observation, may be i am wrong in that.07:19
cosmicrajivmy*07:19
murmelcosmicrajiv: it does make sense that snaps take less space than flatpaks (as snaps are compressed, reason why they are slower than flats or debs)07:21
cosmicrajivmurmel: is it a good thing?07:26
murmelcosmicrajiv: I can't really say. on the one hand you use less space on disk, but on the other hand, you have more work for the cpu (as it decompresses the squashfs). as I don't use that much disk space anyway (or have enough) I don't care too much about disk space07:28
cosmicrajiv murmel: so both snaps and flatpaks are good and bad on their own rights?07:29
murmelcosmicrajiv: I do think that containers are the future, but flat and snap are not it. it will still evolve. both have their caveats. but for now, I like flats more (as it's faster)07:31
murmeli don't want to talk about appimage :S that's another whole discussion07:31
cosmicrajivmurmel: agreed.07:31
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cosmicrajivi have an nvidia geforce  rtx 3050 and ubuntu has been using the proprietary drivers but i can't see the gui settings app for nvidia.07:45
cosmicrajivthis is the output of "nvidia-smi" https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZxZRVVDkFw/plain/07:45
cosmicrajivby default the the gpu is set to "on-demand".07:47
murmelcosmicrajiv: make sure that nvidia-settings is installed07:48
cosmicrajivok07:48
cosmicrajivmurmel: why the intel mode is disabled? https://imgur.com/XrpxO32.png07:53
murmelcosmicrajiv: I never owned a nvidia gpu, but it almost sounds like that maybe the intel gpu is disabled in the bios/uefi07:54
murmelbut that's only my guess07:54
murmelahh, sorry I misunderstood that screenshot :/07:54
murmelcosmicrajiv: do you know if that works under windows for example?07:55
cosmicrajivmurmel: no idea. i didn't check while on windows.07:57
murmelcosmicrajiv: the problem with these dual gpu setups in laptops is, depending on how the screen is wired in, in some setups you can't turn off the dgpu or igpu. only in newer setups (which yours should be) it works where you can turn off both.07:59
cosmicrajivmuemel:  cosmicrajiv: I never owned a nvidia gpu......., then why it is working on on-demand mode.07:59
murmelI would definitely look in the uefi to see if there is some setting07:59
orca_i installed ubuntu on the extra drive. firefox starts now. it might have been because of mozillavpn repository idk07:59
orca_or ppa i mean07:59
cosmicrajivok i'll see it there.08:00
murmelcosmicrajiv: i assume that on-demand doesn't really turn off the gpu responsible for the screen. it just goes to low power08:00
cosmicrajivmurmel08:01
cosmicrajivmurmel: may be.08:01
cosmicrajivmurmel: this command does the trick sudo prime-select intel08:04
murmeloO wow. so in cli it works but not gui?08:04
cosmicrajivyeah08:04
murmelwhy have a gui then xD08:05
cosmicrajivthere is an article in this topic on askubuntu sebsite.08:05
cosmicrajivwebsite*08:05
cosmicrajivhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1395034/nvidia-x-server-power-safe-mode-unavailable08:06
murmeleh okay. i guess good2know08:07
Segajahi, we have random errors trying to install packages: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-security/InRelease  Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'    when i manually try to resolve this url from the same network i have a flapping behavior. sometimes it works and sometimes not. the network i'm doing this from is a k8s cluster in Frankfurt08:08
murmelSegaja: sounds like your network is flaky08:09
murmeldoes it help if you rewrite it to archive.ubuntu.com08:09
Segajai have the same issue for archive.ubuntu.com08:09
Segajasince yesterday early morning alrady08:09
murmelSegaja: hm, my servers in nuremberg are fine08:10
murmelare you in control of the network?08:10
Segajaour servers in US are also fine. just in europe (Frankfurt alicloud) they are affected08:10
Segajait is a managed k8s cluster from the cloud provider08:11
murmelSegaja: I would definitely talk to alicloud then08:11
Segajawow. i can't even do an `apt update`:   Cannot initiate the connection to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::15). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) Cannot initiate the connection to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2620:2d:4000:1::19). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) Cannot initiate the connection to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::18). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) Cannot08:13
Segajainitiate the connection to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2620:2d:4000:1::16). - connect (101: Network is unreachable)08:13
Segajamurmel: did ubuntu suddenly start to promote ipv6 which isn't working for us properly?08:15
murmelSegaja: did you try to reach the servers over ipv4?08:15
murmelno08:15
ravagethere is nothing new or faulty on Ubuntu's side here. you just have to fix your network08:16
Segajai didn't change the configuration and it worked before. but i will get in contact with alicloud now. maybe they did some change to prefer ipv6 now08:16
Segajais there an easy way to force apt to use ipv4?08:16
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murmelSegaja: https://zach-adams.com/2015/01/apt-get-cant-connect-to-security-ubuntu-fix/08:17
murmelmaybe08:17
murmelbut I would definitely talk to alicloud08:18
ravageeven in 2015 disabling IPv6 instead of fixing it was a bad advice08:18
Segajai'm on my way talking to alicloud, but i have to get my windows vm up first :D08:18
murmelsure, but at least he can get back up and running08:18
murmeland it's not disabling it08:19
Segajaravage: i agree. but for now i want to get these jobs run once today before i try to fix ipv608:19
murmelit prefers ipv4 over 608:19
Segajaok this gets creative. the container has no editor installed and apt cache is deleted... but anyway. thanks for all the help08:20
murmeleh makes sense to have no editor in a container :308:20
ravageSegaja, there are ways to temp disable IPv6 like on https://itsfoss.com/disable-ipv6-ubuntu-linux/08:21
ravagejust make sure to re-enable it when the problem is fixed or just reboot08:21
murmelravage: he doesn't control the hosts08:21
Segajawell it is a pod for a cronjob so unless i do this in the dockerfile it will be reset in the next run08:22
ravagecloud life if fun right? :P08:22
murmelcloud is only fun if you control the servers also ;)08:22
ravageecho 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv408:23
ravagemaybe that can be useful08:23
murmelat least it should be able to test it out in runtime08:24
murmelon*08:24
Segajaravage: that helps08:26
Segajajust to be clear on more time: you guys don't know of any ipv6 related routing or DNS issues on ubuntu/canonical site?08:26
murmelSegaja: I prefer ipv6 over 4 and it runs fine08:27
ravageboth works here. but i dont have global monitoring of the internet :)08:27
murmelcan't we just move on to ipv6 already :(08:28
ravagedid you try to reach anynthing else via v6?08:28
ravagesomething like google.com?08:28
Segajagoogle.com resolves as ipv4 when i do a normal curl call08:29
ravagethat should not be the default08:29
Segajaalso another server of us from NUE works but that is old infrastructure which has disabled ipv6 since ags08:29
murmeltry this 2001:4860:4860::8888 (that's their dns)08:29
ravagemaybe your provider's DNS is brown08:30
ravagebut "Network is unreachabl" really sounds like a general network problem08:31
Segajaalicloud is now also looking into this. luckily this is only one service which runs on a plain ubuntu image and installs needed packages at runtime. most likely we will write a dockerfile for this to move the package installation from runtime to buildtime08:32
murmelsounds like the better move anyway :)08:32
Segajaagreed, but so far it wasn't a problem08:35
Segajai guess i could sue the opportunity to also bump the ubuntu base image to the latest LTS08:36
murmelhm, you can. I am rather a fan of taking my time to roll out new LTS releases. as I want to test it more08:37
Segajawell i need to test the changes anyway, but since i only need locale, openssh-client and mysql-client it shouldn't that big a deal08:38
murmeloh, yeah. I guess that's a good start for a new LTS08:39
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Segajacurios question: is it normal that the mirrors are accessed with http:// and not via TLS?09:14
murmelSegaja: yes, so you can cache them, and there is no real benefit for tls, other than "obscuring" which updates you pull + have way more load on the server as it needs to encrypt09:36
murmelSegaja: depending on your infra, it does make sense to cache in comparison to setting up a whole mirror09:36
Segajagot it09:38
murmelSegaja: but that's why it's important to install packages with apt, as apt verifies that there was no tampering. in comparison to downloading them over http and then apt (or even worse dpkg)09:40
Segajasure09:41
zetherooI'm seeing this in my syslog and wondering what can/should be done to resolve it:10:03
zetheroosnapd[1250]: storehelpers.go:722: cannot refresh: snap has no updates available: "bare", "bitwarden", "core", "core18", "core20", "core22", "gnome-3-28-1804", "gnome-3-34-1804", "gnome-3-38-2004", "gtk-common-themes", "gtk2-common-themes", "helm", "shutter", "snap-store", "snapd", "spotify", "telegram-desktop"10:03
murmelzetheroo: the way I read it, it just says no updates for your snap packages10:04
zetherooI have tried removing/reinstalling snap-store, killing and refreshing snap-store10:04
NFVbloghi10:05
zetheroomurmel: ok, well I guess that's fine then.10:05
murmelhi NFVblog10:05
zetheroomurmel: do you know how I can see what version of a snap I have installed?10:06
murmelzetheroo: apt policy snapd10:06
NFVbloghonestly it has been a while since I was thinking of writing to other ubuntu users, I was one of the few who listed the strengths and weaknesses that the distro had, doing a test via kvm instead of using the classic virtualbox that on the performance front does pretty crap10:06
zetheroomurmel: ok thanks. It seems things are pretty much up-to-date :)10:07
murmeldo you mean that virtualbox performance is bad or kvm?10:07
zetherooThe "cannot refresh" part is what made me wonder.10:08
murmelzetheroo: I agree, but at the same time it _does_ say that there are no updates.10:08
zetheroomurmel: sure - however, if it "cannot refresh" then it would stand to reason that it cannot find any updates and therefore say that there are no available updates.10:09
NFVblogkvm is certainly the most optimized solution10:09
murmelzetheroo: well what does snap refresh say? ^^10:10
murmelNFVblog: definitely.10:10
NFVblogmurver: certainly the fact that it can interact better with the hardware is certainly a benefit10:11
murmelhm, well oracle doesn't really develop virtualbox any further (they just adjust for newer kernels)10:12
NFVblogmurmel: but they don't pass-through and the maximum of video memory they allow you to use is infinitely small10:15
murmelNFVblog: as I said, oracle doesn't care about virtualbox, that's why people have to move away. "but muh virtualbox is so easy to use"10:16
NFVblogmurmel: The thing is, I've seen reviews of operating systems that talk about performance issues by blaming the os not the virtualization environment10:19
Segajamurmel and ravage: alicloud found a NS record cache with a "bad record". they cleared the cache and now it works again10:23
NFVblogThe thing is, I've seen reviews of operating systems that talk about performance issues by blaming the os not the virtualization environment10:24
ravagegreat :)10:24
NFVblogmy opinion on alternative packaging systems such as snap, flatpack and appimage actually find them a bit problematic, especially the first two, because sometimes graphic inconsistencies arise and also the fact that they create a lot of problems with fonts10:24
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murmelSegaja: great :)10:26
ograzetheroo, "snap list" shows all versions of snaps instaled ... "snap info <snapname>" shows you available versions of a snap in other channels ...10:36
Tibercan someone help me coz my ubuntu Mate is not shutting down?11:09
Tibergoes Reached target Power-Off. and then i got stuck on that11:10
oerheksthat can take 300 seconds.11:11
Tiber i waited over 30min11:42
oerheksthen just hold the powerbutton to hard shutdown.11:43
oerheksnext boot you can read with journalctl -e  # what happened. or did not happen.11:44
tarzeauthis? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPthCwFX0AMU8zQ.jpg11:46
oerhekstarzeau, i answered this a minute ago https://askubuntu.com/a/1424992/6468311:51
oerheksoops wrong channel11:52
oerhekstarzeau, yes funny, some connections need to drop, which do not happen.11:53
webchat27I have a question how do I move my usr directory to another partition is it possible12:04
dobbicorpwebchat27: i belive you'll have to setup the mount upon booting12:05
webchat27How do I do that12:05
webchat27Can you by it me12:06
webchat27Guide12:06
EriC^^webchat27: can you paste the output of "ls -ld /usr" ?12:06
webchat27Ok12:07
webchat27drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Apr 21 03:57 /usr12:09
webchat27@EriC^^  drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Apr 21 03:57 /usr12:11
EriC^^webchat27: why do you want to create a /usr partition?12:12
webchat27It's full I can't install programs like gcc12:12
webchat27@EriC^^    It's full I can't install programs like gcc12:15
EriC^^webchat27: ok, so you need a live usb to do it, you want to copy the contents of /usr to the other partition, then add it to /etc/fstab and delete the contents of /usr in the root filesystem12:15
EriC^^webchat27: can you boot a live usb?12:15
webchat27This is a virtual machine12:16
EriC^^ok, load up an iso then?12:16
webchat27Virtualbox vm12:16
EriC^^hmm, why dont you just add disk space to the vm?12:16
webchat27Iso of Ubuntu12:16
webchat27I did but I doesn't recognise it I tried mount12:17
webchat27It to /usr and did wouldn't  work12:17
EriC^^webchat27: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' paste the link it gives you here12:18
webchat27To a terminal12:19
EriC^^yes12:19
webchat27-bash: nc: command not found12:19
webchat27This Is wheat I get12:20
webchat27When I ran it12:20
webchat27What*12:21
EriC^^webchat27: ok, type "sudo parted -ls" and paste the output in any pastebin12:22
webchat27Model: ATA VBOX HARDDISK (scsi)12:24
webchat27Disk /dev/sda: 107GB12:24
webchat27Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B12:24
webchat27Partition Table: gpt12:24
webchat27Disk Flags:12:24
webchat27Number  Start   End     Size    File system  Name       Flags12:24
EriC^^webchat27: paste it in a pastebin suh as pastebin.com12:25
EriC^^*such12:25
webchat27Ok I pasted it now wget12:28
webchat27What12:29
EriC^^what's the link? :D12:29
webchat27https://pastebin.com/awVYzHMN12:29
webchat27Here you go12:30
EriC^^webchat27: ok, so what is /dev/sda4 ? is that the empty partition?12:31
webchat27Yes12:31
webchat27I 'M logged  in to my Ubuntu vm  via ssh12:31
EriC^^looks like you're using encryption for the main os?12:32
webchat27I did not use encryption12:33
EriC^^webchat27: what does 'sudo blkid /dev/sda3' give?12:38
zetherooAny ideas as to what could be causing this?12:41
zetheroognome-shell[6973]: [7059:7064:0822/143300.326577:ERROR:ssl_client_socket_impl.cc(983)] handshake failed; returned -1, SSL error code 1, net_error -20212:41
webchat27https://pastebin.com/mSe9JqBX12:42
BluesKajHi all12:42
webchat27@EriC^^  https://pastebin.com/mSe9JqBX12:44
webchat27@EriC^^   here is the output12:45
Tiberihttps://termbin.com/9p8r12:45
Tiberithis kind journalctl log i get when i stuck on shutting down12:46
Tiberii'm new and noob with linux12:46
EriC^^webchat27: thanks12:47
EriC^^webchat27: ok, type sudo gdisk /dev/sda412:47
EriC^^webchat27: sorry, sudo gdisk /dev/sda12:47
jojohi, I need some help to customize keyboard on my new notebook Acer Nitro12:48
jojokeyboard has no Delete button12:48
yinhave you tried shift+backspace?12:49
jojoyes, I did12:49
jojoFn + backspace...12:49
jojono one combination helped12:49
jojo*worked12:49
webchat27@EriC^^ now what12:49
jojokeyboard has a totally useless button on linux12:50
webchat27Should i post the output12:50
EriC^^no12:50
EriC^^press "t"12:50
EriC^^then "4" when it asks for the partition code type "8e00"12:50
jojoit's the button to show up the Acer panel12:51
webchat27Should I press enter after pressing t12:51
EriC^^yeah12:51
webchat27Then 412:51
webchat27Should I press enter after pressing 412:52
jojoI would like to map the vendor button as the Delete button, but it's not recognized with xev12:52
EriC^^webchat27: yes12:53
webchat27Ok12:53
webchat27Then what12:53
EriC^^as i said type "8e00"12:53
ravage(and enter)12:53
EriC^^:D12:53
murmeljojo by vendor key you mean Fn?12:54
webchat27Ok and then12:54
EriC^^webchat27: type "w" and write the table12:54
webchat27Should I reboot12:55
EriC^^yes12:55
jojomurmel no. vendor button it's another button placed on keypad. it's not Fn, nor Windows/Apple button.12:55
murmeljojo: sounds like it's implemented like th Fn key (which is firmware) so sounds like not really possible, but don't know too much about it12:56
n0fun_Does anyone know of a ppa for a ppa for python3.6-dev for 20.04 (Focal Fossa)?12:56
* tarzeau is so glad, 22.04 meanwhile, and only python3.1012:57
n0fun_deadsnakes worked, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.12:58
jojosudo showkey -k --> keycode 425 release12:58
murmeln0fun_: I am not sure, but wouldn't it make sense to use something like mamba12:58
murmelnot sure about -dev12:58
n0fun_That doesn't help with -dev.13:00
webchat27I can't boot13:00
n0fun_I don't know why this particular project needs python-dev though. I guess I have to do some digging why it's needed.13:00
murmeln0fun_: I guess set up a 18.04?13:00
EriC^^webchat27: what's happening exactly?13:00
webchat27Timeout waiting for device13:01
EriC^^webchat27: do you have an ubuntu iso you can load to troubleshoot?13:02
jojohi, I need some help to customize keyboard on my new notebook. keyboard has no Delete button. none of these button combination works: shift/Fn/ctrl/alt + backspace13:02
webchat27I have a snapshot I can restore to13:02
gordonjcpafternoon13:03
gordonjcpanyone having problems with Firefox not starting on Ubuntu 22.04 recently?13:03
EriC^^webchat27: ok restore the snapshot13:04
webchat27Now what13:05
webchat27Can i try symlinks13:05
EriC^^webchat27: same drill, type "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda" paste the output in a pastebin13:05
n0fun_murmel: That could work. There would be a lot of replcation in the build chain of the project though. And it somehow feels weird to use an older os for something that worked just fine a month ago.13:05
webchat27It's the same13:06
zetherooThe Ubuntu Server 22.04 installer doesn't like my static network IP-Subnet combination :/13:07
EriC^^webchat27: ok, type 'sudo gdisk /dev/sda'13:07
zetherooSubnet: 255.255.254.0/23  Address: 192.168.81.11513:07
ravage255.255.254.0/23 makes no sense at all13:08
zetheroothe installer says that the IP is not contained the subnet13:08
EriC^^webchat27: actually, type "sudo cgdisk /dev/sda" go down to the empty partition and press on 'type' change it it "8e00" then write the new table13:08
EriC^^dont restart, type "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda" and paste the link to confirm13:08
ravagezetheroo, your netmask is 255.255.254.0 without the /2313:08
EriC^^*paste the contents13:09
ravagezetheroo, use "ipcalc 192.168.81.115/23" . it is a really helpful tool13:09
zetherooravage: that's what I thought too, but the installer demands that the subnet be ended with /xx13:10
zetheroo"should be in the CIDR form (xx.xx.xx.xx/yy)"13:10
zetheroowhich is why I am lost as to what this should be now13:11
ravagei think the server installer asks for your network. that would be 192.168.80.0/2313:11
murmeln0fun_: what do you mean by last month it did work. 3.6 was never in focal/jammy13:11
zetherooravage: https://ibb.co/yR0FxG613:12
n0fun_It worked with fkulls deadsnakes, not with the ubuntu universe.13:12
ravagezetheroo, yes subnet is technically correct here. but the older debian installer wanted the netmask. did you try 192.168.80.0/23 ?13:13
webchat27It's saying display is to small13:14
webchat27Too13:14
zetherooravege: 192.168.80.0/23 worked! Thanks.13:14
murmeln0fun_: do I understand correctly that you try to figure out why a third party software doesn't work?13:15
webchat27EriC^^ it says display is too small13:15
EriC^^webchat27: ok, use 'sudo gdisk /dev/sda'13:17
EriC^^press 'p' get the number of the empty partition, then press 't' to change the type of it13:18
webchat27Ok13:19
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webchat27Now what13:20
webchat27@EriC^^  now what13:21
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EriC^^did you change the type to 8e00?13:21
webchat27It says value out of range13:22
webchat27After I typed t13:22
webchat27I typed 8e0013:23
EriC^^you have to put the partition number... are you not reading what it's asking?13:23
webchat27I did not see it13:23
webchat27I did it it say Changed type of partition to 'Linux filesystem'13:24
webchat27Now what13:25
webchat27@EriC^^  now what13:26
EriC^^it should say linux_lvm13:26
EriC^^so you have to repeat that step, follow this guide to extend your lvm, i have to go sorry, goodluck! https://oracle-base.com/articles/vm/virtualbox-extend-disk-and-file-system or someone here might help as well13:27
webchat27Should I  repeat it13:27
EriC^^yes13:27
webchat27Can i try symlinking the usr directory13:29
webchat27To another drive13:30
webchat27Is there anyone who can help me13:31
osseI'm trying to install extundelete while running from a USB, but the package can't be found. How can I install it? Lots of other packages are available13:32
osseAh, figured it out. Had to add the universe repo13:35
webchat27I need help13:38
webchat27I want to move my /usr to a different partition13:39
murmelwebchat27: so where are you stuck in the guide13:40
webchat27I don't know13:40
murmelwebchat27: when you can't really follow guides, what do you expect from us?13:41
webchat27I just did ctrl  c and exited13:41
webchat27Sorry13:41
webchat27Is it possible to symlinks the usr directory13:41
webchat27I tried mounting a disk to /usr I didn't work13:42
murmelwebchat27: what was the error?13:43
webchat27I didn't boot13:43
webchat27I tried mounting a disk to x/usr  directory13:43
murmeland what is x/usr?13:44
webchat27I tried symlinking the usr  directory it did not work and I am stuck now13:44
murmelyes, just follow the guide which EriC^^ gave you the link to13:45
murmeland if you are stuck, we are helping, but only if you try the guide13:45
webchat27Can be be tried on a real machine13:45
webchat27I don't understand the guide13:46
ravagewebchat27, maybe just install a new VM with more space and copy your data over?13:47
webchat27Okv13:47
webchat27Should I also copy my usr  directory13:47
webchat27Is that what you can do on a real machine as well13:48
ravagei meant like install a new Ubuntu on a new VM and configure it13:48
aaaaalis grub-install and update-grub how you usually recover boot13:48
murmelwebchat27: yes13:48
webchat27Can i use bind mount13:48
ravagebind mount also works on a VM yes13:49
murmelyes you can, but if i understand your issue, the disk is still full13:49
webchat27And on a real machine13:49
webchat27I have another partition13:49
webchat27That I can use13:50
ravagethen mount it somewhere. copy/rsync the data over. modify /etc/fstab to mount /usr and reboot13:50
webchat27But I don't know how to use bind mounts13:50
ravageno need for any bind mounts then. just a regular mount13:50
ravageaaaaal, than can be part of the process for sure. what is your actual question?13:51
webchat27What should I write in the /etc/fstab13:52
ravagewebchat27, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab13:52
aaaaalravage: i have a kvm/qemu vm with busted boot -- grub loads but shows "grub2 \n grub legacy" instead of ubuntu \n advanced etc, i did -install and update without errors in chroot, now idk13:53
aaaaalgrub.cfg seems ok13:54
murmelaaaaal: did you regenereate the config?13:54
murmelmh13:54
aaaaalupdate-grub? yes13:54
yin /j digitalocean13:55
webchat27Hey I lost connection I was the guy who asked it he question on how to move my /usr  directory to a new partition13:56
WeeBeyis it normal to have the /etc/fstab show the swap line have the same uuid as the one for / ?13:58
webchat27I copied the /usr  directory using sudo cp  -Rvp  /usr  to /mnt/sda4/usr13:59
WeeBeywait nevermind.. I was just looking at the last two characters of the UUID14:00
ravagewebchat27, ls -al /mnt/sda4/usr14:00
webchat27Should I type that comand into a terminal right14:01
ravageyes. and pastebin the output14:01
WeeBeyI am trying to trouble shoot this VM which is breaking more and more. It takes a long time to boot. It hangs at "A start job is running for /dev/disk/by-uuid/... (32s / 1m30)14:01
WeeBeyAny hints as to what that may be?14:01
aaaaalis UUID always the same14:02
WeeBeygood question.  I think it changed from one to another. let me restart and see aaaaal14:02
murmelaaaaal: no14:02
murmeli mean it's unique ;)14:02
WeeBeyoh that wasn't for me? someone also messing with UUIDs :-)14:03
webchat27Here is the output14:04
webchat27https://pastebin.com/3b4iwVQL14:04
ravageWeeBey, if you think its the swap partition that generates the error comment it out. your system will happily boot without swap14:04
ravagewebchat27, blkid /dev/sda414:04
ravagewebchat27, is that partition ext4?14:05
webchat27Yes14:05
ravageok send the output of the blkid command14:05
webchat27That is the empty partition I want to move the usr  directory to I copied the files over14:06
ravageyes i understood that14:06
webchat27https://pastebin.com/Zv2DYJiN14:07
webchat27Blkid  output14:08
ravageecho "b3c7cf4d-d573-406b-8fde-62cecc46a4b3 /usr               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1" >> /etc/fstab14:08
ravageoh wait14:08
ravageecho "UUID=b3c7cf4d-d573-406b-8fde-62cecc46a4b3 /usr               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1" >> /etc/fstab14:08
ravagethis14:08
webchat27Should I use sudo14:08
jsmoothI have installed latest Ubuntu, but upon boot I only get GRUB shell14:09
ravagedo "sudo bash" first14:09
aienaI am using a canon printer. It works but the ccpd daemon does not start on boot.14:09
ravagethen the echo command14:09
aienaI tried the command 'update-rc.d ccpd defaults'14:09
aienaIt seems to do something no output but rebooting the process is still dead.14:10
webchat27But the sda4  is mounted to /mnt/sda414:10
ravageyou can unmount it first. but that will be done on reboot anyway14:10
aienaHow doI make it start on boot? There is an /etfc/init.d/ccpd file.14:10
webchat27Ok14:11
aienawhy is 'update-rc.d ccpd defaults' not working.14:11
ravagewebchat27, when you are done pastebin the output of "cat /etc/fstab" again14:11
ravageaiena, which version of Ubuntu is this?14:12
webchat27You said to sudo bash then echo right14:12
ravageyes14:12
webchat27What should I run after sudo bash echo14:13
aienaravage it is ubuntu 18.0414:13
webchat2722.04 lts14:14
ravageaiena, even that should manage startups via systemd not init14:14
aienaif I do systemctl enable ccpd  I get an error 'update-rc.d: error: ccpd Default-Start contains no runlevels, aborting.'14:14
ravagewebchat27, the commands to run were "sudo bash" and then echo "UUID=b3c7cf4d-d573-406b-8fde-62cecc46a4b3 /usr               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1" >> /etc/fsta14:14
ravageaiena, i never heard of ccpd to be honest14:14
aienaravage I tried enabling via systemd14:15
aienaravage yup its a proprietary canon thing. Cups talks to ccpd which toalsk to the printer14:15
aienatalks14:15
aienanew drivers use UFR II14:16
ravageaiena, and are you sure your printer still need that in 2022?14:16
murmelespecially canon normally has quite okay drivers for linux, but I guess depends on the model/make year14:17
aienayup its an ancient printer everything works fine just can't start the daemon on boot14:17
aienaancient and excellent printer14:17
ravageaiena, https://gist.github.com/akikoskinen/98b18251ca05b152d2df3548d057ef4914:17
ravagemaybe you can use that as a base for a systemd service?14:18
murmelaiena: which printer do you have?14:18
webchat27It says permission denied14:18
aienamurmel LBP290014:18
ravagewebchat27, at what command?14:18
aienahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv19014:18
webchat27Echo14:18
aienabut that docu is a bit dated14:19
ravagewebchat27, then you are not root. did you enter "sudo bash" first?14:19
webchat27Yes14:19
webchat27Can i edit the file manually with echo14:19
ravagei have no idea what that means14:19
aienaravage how do i create systemd unit files14:19
ravageaiena, it is in the README on that link :)14:20
aienamakybe I can call /et/init.d/ccpd start from there14:20
ravageaiena, Put the ccpd2.service file into `/etc/systemd/system` and run `systemctl daemon-reload && systemctl enable ccpd2` as root14:20
webchat27As in sudo nano /etc/fstab14:20
ravagewebchat27, ok then do that and add the line14:20
ravageUUID=b3c7cf4d-d573-406b-8fde-62cecc46a4b3 /usr               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       114:21
aienaravage in that init file there is nothing about start stop etc.14:21
ravageaiena, there i no init file at that link14:21
ravage*is14:21
ravageit is a systemd service file14:21
aienai mean the ccpd3.service14:21
ravagethat is totally fine14:21
aienaccpd2.service14:21
aienaravage ok so enable start stop etc will work fine14:23
ravageaiena, i hope so yes. just try it :)14:23
webchat27https://pastebin.com/73Qag5EX14:23
aienawill do14:23
aienatomorrow14:23
aienathanks14:23
aienamailed your gist to me for backreference14:23
aienayour/authors14:23
ravagegood luck :)14:23
webchat27Here is the output from cat /etc/fstab14:24
ravagewebchat27, remove the second last line14:24
ravagewebchat27, UUID=b3c7cf4d-d573-406b-8fde-62cecc46a4b3  /mnt/sda4/       ext4    defaults        0  014:24
ravageremove that one14:24
ravagewebchat27, also your comment out the line with the swapfile14:25
ravagefrom /mnt/sda4/etc/swapfile  none    swap    sw 0014:25
ravageto #/mnt/sda4/etc/swapfile  none    swap    sw 0014:25
ravagethen paste the file agaon14:25
ravage*again14:25
webchat27I need the swap file14:27
ravageyou can create/use it after a succcessful boot14:27
webchat27So don't delete it14:27
webchat27Only uncomment it14:28
ravagethat is what i wrote yes14:28
webchat27Only comment it #14:28
webchat27Here you go14:30
webchat27https://pastebin.com/V4jNGHNv14:30
webchat27Now what14:30
ravagesudo mv /usr /usr_old14:31
ravagesudo mkdir /usr14:31
ravagesudo sync14:31
ravagethen reboot your VM14:31
ravageif it throws any errors you can just hard reset it14:32
webchat27What's usr old14:32
ravageor lets try it a little more soft14:32
ravagedid you already type anything?14:32
webchat27After the cat /etc/fstab nothing14:32
ravageok14:33
ravage1 sec14:33
webchat27My usr the one I copied to is in /mnt/sda4/usr  that's where I copied my usr directory to14:34
ravageyes14:34
ravagethe problem is that we should remove the old usr files our of the way before the reboot14:35
webchat27What should I do next14:35
ravagebut a lot of your system files are in there. so you may not ne able to execute anything after that :)14:35
webchat27I know14:35
webchat27What can we do about that14:36
ravagedoing this from a live ubuntu ISO would be much easier14:36
webchat27How to hi do that14:36
ravageyoyu boot https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ubuntu-22.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso in your VM14:36
webchat27How do I do that14:36
ravageyou14:37
webchat27You what14:37
ravageand click "try Ubuntu" instead of install when it starts up14:37
webchat27I have ubuntu sever minimal14:38
ravagethat does not matter. we only need the live system to mount your actual server system14:38
ravageand you have a GUI in virtualbox i guess14:39
ravageso you can use a mouse and keyboard on the VM14:39
webchat27Yes I can use rdp14:39
webchat27Should I unmount the disk14:40
ravageok. then boot up that ISO and report back when you are at the Ubuntu desktop14:40
ravageyou can14:40
ravagebut it will do that on reboot14:40
webchat27Okb14:40
webchat27Do you have an email14:41
ravagewhy would you need my email?14:42
enigma9o7[m]Who doesn't have an email?14:42
webchat27We can keep in touch with cause I don't have physical access to the vm14:42
ravagethis is not my actual job. im here when my paid job allows it14:42
ravagebut you can get back here and ask whoever is available to help at that time14:43
enigma9o7[m]That's nice of them.14:43
webchat27What should I tell then14:43
ravagewhat you already did and what you stil want to do14:44
webchat27Ok14:44
ravagedelete the old /usr files from the system and then mount the sda4 partition to /usr14:44
ravagefstab already fixed14:45
webchat27That's all I have to do when I boot into a live iso14:45
mtlifeHi, i'm on ubuntu 22.04 and trying the new rdp support in gnome via wayland. I can connect, but I see a black screen. Via Android client and remmina both give a black screen. Is there something I need to configure via pipewire to allow rdp to capture the screen, or am I completely off track?14:45
ravagewebchat27, basically yes. you could reboot now and check if it boots. but you still wont have any free space because the old files in /usr are still there14:46
ioriamtlife, have you tried the Xorg session ?14:47
ravagemtlife, as far as i know pipewire only handles audio. so that would be a strange bug to produce a black screen. Xorg session would be a good check yes14:47
webchat27But won't I  not be able to boot case I won't get the type any commands14:47
mtlifeLet me check xorg then. Brb14:48
webchat27Can it try symlinks14:48
ravagewebchat27, you can try whatever you like of course14:49
webchat27Will it work14:49
ravagei dont know. that depends on what exactly you will do14:49
webchat27Okv14:50
webchat27Ok14:50
webchat27So after I boot into a live iso I should click on try Ubuntu and then14:51
ravageopen a console. mount your / partiton somewhere and rename /usr to something like /usr_old. then create /usr again14:51
mtlifeBack, now on xorg. Still a black screen with rdp14:51
ravageunmount your / and reboot14:52
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ravagemtlife, ok. i have no experience with that new RDP really. maybe someone else can help14:52
webchat27Is there a guide  or an article I can follow in case I forget what to do14:53
mtliferavage: thanks, internet seems also quite empty still on the topic14:53
ogramtlife, ravage, does this help ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/197766314:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1977663 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Jammy) "Remote Control under Remote Desktop sharing option only works for VNC" [High, Fix Committed]14:55
ravagewebchat27, this are really basic linux commands. maybe seek help from a professional or try it here again. there are general guides how to manage partition and do basic linux stuff of course14:55
webchat27So after I boot into the live iso what should I do14:57
ravageogra, maybe. but a black screen means that the service itself should run right?14:57
ograno idea14:57
ravagesame :D14:57
ograi see the workaround is missing in the bug though14:57
ogra"gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.remote-desktop.rdp view-only false"14:57
ogramtlife, ^^^  try running that command and see if it starts working then14:58
mtlifeLet me try14:58
mtlifenow I get "admin might have ended your session" when trying to conect14:59
webchat27Ok thanks14:59
ravagebad admin14:59
ogramtlife, hire a new admin ... that one is bad (like ravage said) ...15:00
mtlife;)15:00
webchat27@/rem15:00
ogramtlife, might need some kind of restart/rebott/whatever ...15:00
ogra*reboot15:00
mtlifeI'm trying some of the grdctl commands15:01
ravagebut are you back on wayland?15:01
ravageit may acually need wayland to work. but im really just guessing here15:02
ograit might, yeah15:02
webchat27ravage so this is what I should do after I boot from an iso click on try Ubuntu and then   open a console. mount your / partiton somewhere and rename /usr to something like /usr_old. then create /usr again15:02
ograyour admin should know 😄15:02
mtlifeI'm still trying xorg, see if I can get that to work. But this is a 18.10 -> 19.04 -> 19.10 -> 20.04 -> 22.04 system upgrade, so might also have some leftover configs that it doesn't like.15:03
webchat27Is that correct ravage15:03
ravagewebchat27, that is what i wrote. so i think that is correct of course. i also continued to suggest with / and then reboot your system15:05
mtlifeok, got it working in xorg via restart of the service. Let me try wayland now.15:05
ravagewebchat27, in that case / ist the root filesystem of your server system mounted somewhere else at that point15:06
webchat27What15:06
ravagewebchat27, this is really not going to work without the actual system in front of you and full access. please come back when you have that and someone may be able to assist you further then15:07
webchat27Ok thanks15:08
mtlifeOk for those interested, wayland rdp does not work with my setup (nvidia-515 drivers), xorg works via manual restart of rdp (possibly also just use the button in the settings). Might even be wayland related as in, after the restart it properly uses x11.15:10
ravagedoes the Xorg only limitation still applies for 22.04.1?15:11
ravagei have not even tried wayland yet after my initial installation of 22.0415:11
ravagelimitation for nvidia devices i mean15:12
enigma9o7[m]What limitation are you referring to?  That those with nvidia don't start wayland by default?15:13
ravagewayland was not even available because of a driver problem15:13
ravagethe installer disabled when it detected an nvidia card15:14
ravage*it15:14
mtliferavage: afaik I can run wayland fine on 22.04.115:14
enigma9o7[m]My understanding was they disabled it for nvidia by default because there were issues with suspend on some gpus.15:14
enigma9o7[m]It was still available from the login manager tho.15:14
mtlifeYes, i've had that issue. My laptop wouldn't suspend, sometimes it still doesn't, but wayland works fine. Get home and laptop is blazing in the bag.15:15
enigma9o7[m]If you want to see how well it works for you.15:15
ravagethere was a udev rule that removed wayland on the login screen via gdm.conf15:15
ravageif it is shown now that has been fixed15:15
mtlifeJust a double check if it really suspended before bagging it15:15
ravagelet me logout and see what i get :)15:16
enigma9o7[m]Oh yeah you're right forgot about that ravage, it wasn't always in the login manager, yer totally right, im wrong.15:16
enigma9o7[m]forgot about having to restore that15:16
ravageback on wayland15:18
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ravagei could actually test that RDP thing now15:19
mtlifeFYI: if you enable remote control of the screen I get a cursor that I can move, and my actual mouse moves as well15:20
mtlifeSo, rdp works, just not the screen capture15:20
ravageheh15:23
ravagei can see my screen but view only15:23
ravagelet me try that command15:24
ravagethat fixed it15:25
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ravagemulti monitor support may not be a thing yet15:36
jhutchinsravage: So are you using wayland in order to test it and find problems to report to the wayland team, or are you under the illusion that it's ready for production?15:40
Tiberican anyone help me with that problem on shutting down stucking16:11
Tiberihttps://termbin.com/9p8r16:11
ioriaTiberi, ata1: hard resetting link   not agood sign16:12
Tiberianything that i can do with that?16:13
ioriaTiberi, check the disk16:13
ioriaTiberi, might be hw not sf16:14
Tiberii have done that with another pc and firmware is up to date16:14
Tiberiit can be16:14
ioriafirmware ?16:14
Tiberisdd's firmware16:14
ioriayour disk is probably done16:14
Tiberiit dosen't boot on usb either16:15
ioriaTiberi, before replace it, you can try change the port or the cable16:16
Tiberisdd should be good16:16
Tiberilaptop so i have only 1 port16:16
Tiberiif i don't link it on cd driver port16:16
ioria ata1.00: irq_stat 0x08000000, interface fatal error16:17
Tiberianyway to ingnore error and force to shut down?16:17
Tiberieverything works fine but dosen't just shut down16:18
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yini can't resolve hostnames after upgrading to 22.0416:43
yinsystemd-resolve --status | grep Current gives me Current Scopes: None16:44
yini'm not sure what to do16:44
ravageyin, Ubuntu Desktop or server?16:49
yinserver16:57
yinit's a digitalocean vps16:57
ravageuh. they always have some strange custom images16:57
n0fun_murmel: I am just trying to make it work somehow. I downgraded to 18.04. Then I get "SyntaxError: future feature annotations is not defined", which seems reasonable considering this is python 3.6. The stacktrace reveals it's /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/setuptools/dist.py causing that. I have no idea why this doesn't work.16:57
ravagefirst place to look would be the netplan config16:57
ravagedoes that look like it is being used?16:57
yinravage: /etc/netplan/ is empty16:58
ravagenot a real server install then16:58
yini tried creating a 01-netcfg.yaml file16:58
yinwith renderer: NetworkManager16:59
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ravagei will probably not even use netplan then16:59
ravagedoes /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf exist?16:59
yinyes16:59
ravagewhere does "ls -al /etc/resolv.con " point to?17:00
ravage+f17:00
murmeln0fun_: you downgraded the whole OS?17:00
ravageor is it a regular file?17:00
yinravage: -> /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf17:01
ravageand what is in there?17:01
ravagewith cat?17:01
yinsearch DOMAINS617:01
yinand that's that17:01
ravageyin, is your network interface eth0?17:03
yinyes17:03
ravagetry17:03
ravagesystemd-resolve --set-dns=8.8.8.8 --interface=eth017:03
yinthat did it!17:04
ravagecheck if that is reboot safe17:05
ravageim not sure :)17:05
yinchacking17:05
yin+checking17:05
yinit's not17:07
ravageok17:07
ravagetry to create /etc/systemd/resolved.conf.d/dns_servers.conf17:07
ravageor maybe there are already other files17:07
ravage[Resolve]17:07
ravageDNS=8.8.8.817:07
ravageshould be enough17:07
ravageyou can add FallbackDNS= if you want more than one17:09
mtliferavage: with rdp you could see your screen?17:10
ravagemtlife, yep. all working fine. only one monitor though17:10
mtlifeLet me try disconnect my monitor17:10
yinthanks ravage17:12
yinit seems to do the trick for now17:12
mtlifeNah, doesn't work for me. If wayland works for you, may I ask what gpu you have? Is it a laptop with Intel/Nvidia combi like this one?17:12
ravagegreat :)17:12
yini'll try to understand what happened17:12
ravagemy guess is that the upgrader did not feel great about that custom DO image17:13
ravagemtlife: desktop system with Intel onboard and Nvidia external CPU17:14
ravagebut nothing connected to the intel17:15
ravageGPU17:15
mtlifeYeah, could mean if I disable intel it will also work for me. I'll try that later. Not really an option since it is a laptop, but worth a try nonetheless17:16
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mtliferavage: nah doesn't work. I'm giving up for a bit, maybe google later specific nvidia/intel combi17:52
jhutchinsI thought we had hybrid video solved, at least as far as locking it down to the Intel hardware.18:06
jhutchins!bumblebee18:07
ubottuThe Bumblebee Project aims to support NVIDIA Optimus technology under Linux. The Bumblebee website can be found at http://bumblebee-project.org/18:07
lotuspsychjenvidia prime is the way to go these days jhutchins18:11
webchat14How do I move my usr  directory to another partition Here Is what I have done I copied. Usr directory to /mnt/sda4/usr  I edited the fstab I have the rescue disk ready after clicking on try Ubuntu what should I do18:34
webchat14Is anyone there18:45
codezyawp18:45
arraybolt3webchat14: Anything we can help you with?18:47
oerheksHow did you copy the contents of /usr ?18:47
arraybolt3(Oh, I see the question now.)18:47
arraybolt3I think all you need now it a bind mount in fstab.18:48
webchat14I 'M at the part where I have the rescue disk ready what should I do after I click on try Ubuntu18:48
arraybolt3webchat14: https://serverfault.com/questions/613179/how-do-i-do-mount-bind-in-etc-fstab Bind mount /mnt/sda4/usr to /usr.18:49
oerheks cp -a preserves all attributes, better is rsync -avz18:49
webchat14Will it add more storage to /usr if I use bind mounts18:53
jhutchinsYou don't need to bind mount /usr unless you're doing a live chroot.  If you're just setting up a system you just mount it to /usr and put it in fstab.18:54
jhutchinsBind mount is for active systems like dev and sys.18:55
FeralTerminatorGood Afternoon :)18:55
jhutchinswebchat14: Did you partition your drive and end up with free space in the wront place?18:55
ravagearraybolt3, he already has the usr dir copied do a new partition with ext4 and the UUID is already in the fstab. all he has do to is mount his / from the live ISO and rename /usr to /usr.bak and reboot really18:56
ravageif it works then he can delee /usr.old18:56
arraybolt3ravage: I thought he had /mnt/sda4/usr and needed that to go to /usr. I'm guessing he meant /dev/sda4 and just needed that mounted to /usr?18:57
arraybolt3In which case, yeah, you're right.18:57
ravagewell at least he showed me the mount point of /dev/sda4 and that looked like he copied /usr over18:58
ravagewee could check that drom the live iso18:58
ravage*we18:58
webchat14What should I do after I click on try Ubuntu18:59
ravageopen a terminal18:59
webchat14ravage18:59
webchat14Ok19:00
webchat14And then19:00
ravagesudo -i19:00
webchat14sudo -i19:00
ravagelsblk | nc termbin.com 999919:01
_apex_.19:02
webchat14Is that even a comand19:02
ravageit is a command yes19:02
loganrunanybody know where i can find a shell command called showkey19:02
webchat14And what should the output be19:02
loganrunI have been search for a source file, but can't find one19:02
ravagewebchat14, a URL19:03
sarnoldkbd: /usr/bin/showkey19:03
webchat14And what should I do with it19:03
loganrunsarnold, thanks,19:03
ravagewebchat14, send the URL19:04
webchat14Should I paste it here19:05
ravageif you want help that would be a good idea yes19:05
webchat14I thought you told me to mount the drive anywhere in the filesystem rename the old one and the reboot19:07
ravagei told you to paste the URL19:08
webchat14Well there doesn't seem to be a url19:08
oerheksto check the partitions , lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999 # is a command that paste those so we can read19:08
oerheksit appears as a number19:08
webchat14Ok19:09
webchat14Wait can I connect to system using ssh or do I have to do it by hand19:10
oerheksno, you are in live mode, you just need networking19:10
ravageand possibly start the ssh service19:11
webchat14Like ether net or Wi-Fi19:11
ravageit is a VM. so ethernet19:11
webchat14Okv19:11
oerheksis it a VM ?19:11
arraybolt3[m]webchat14: Click "Try Ubuntu". Then open a terminal by pressing Ctrl+Alt+T. Then run "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999" in the terminal. That will spit out a link - send the link over IRC.19:12
ravagei hope so. he mounted the ISO in virtualbix19:12
ravage*box19:12
oerheksoh i missed that.19:12
oerhekswhy move usr,...19:12
ravageit was a little earlier19:12
arraybolt3[m]If you don't get a link, then connect your system to the Internet and try again.19:12
ravageno free space on /19:12
ravagesomehow LVM was too complicated19:13
oerhekslvm in a vm ?19:13
* oerheks totally lost19:13
ravagei dont know oerheks. it is what it is now :D19:13
ravagebut there is already a new virtual drive on there and usr is copied. so we may get some free space after we remove the original /usr dir19:14
ravagei would still just install a new VM and copy my data over19:15
arraybolt3Aaaaaaand... Matrix let me send a message just immediately after he left.19:15
arraybolt3And now is only telling me now.19:15
oerheksi suspected a limited ssd and a hdd ..19:16
* arraybolt3 shakes Element19:16
ravagearraybolt3, matrix just cares about your mental health here really19:16
jhutchinsI suspect vigorous partitioning.19:17
oerheksmatrix does not show join/parts .. useless19:17
jpmhI have a brand new install of 22.04 - after apt update and apt dist-upgrade I am told that: The following packages have been kept back:19:17
jpmh  isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common - why?19:17
sarnoldheh, it's worse than that -- it actively pretends people are still around19:17
jhutchinsoerheks: On the other hand, popular channels tend to be flooded with join/part/ messages19:17
arraybolt3[m]Blah.19:17
ravagewelcome back arraybolt3[m]19:18
sarnoldjpmh: try "apt policy isc-dhcp-client" -- it's probably "phased updates", I think that command will confirm or deny that19:18
ravagethey are phased19:18
ravagesomehow they really love those lately19:18
ravagewith a litte more information in apt that would cause a lot less support querstions19:19
ravage*questions19:19
jpmhsarnold: I have no idea what "phased" means here - please explain19:19
oerhekssome have proposed enabled? isc-dhcp-client  shows up there,... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp19:19
oerheks!phased19:19
oerheksoh ..19:19
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates19:20
ravagejpmh, it will roll out in phases / stages. so basicially just wait19:20
oerheksPush out stable release updates to expanding subsets of the userbase so that serious regressions can be detected before updates are pushed to everyone19:20
oerheksyes, wait.19:20
oerheksuse the update icon, so you don' t see this held back packages19:21
jpmhravage: ty - but why does it even show if it is not really ready19:21
jpmhoerheks: ty - as it happens command line only, so no icon19:21
ravage"2 packages can be upgraded" is still just wrong here :)19:22
jpmhanyway - ty to you all  - I think the summary is that it is just confusing and in time it will fix itself19:22
oerheksindeed, confusing, and the other new thingy is it shows that you need to reboot19:23
oerheksno more checking  if /var/run/reboot-required exists19:24
ravagenot that i recommend it but if anyone wants to get rid of the updates rignt now19:26
ravagesudo -- sh -c 'mv /etc/machine-id /etc/machine-id_; apt -y full-upgrade;mv /etc/machine-id_ /etc/machine-id'19:26
ravagetotally works :P19:27
oerheksravage, but i want more updates, just no proposed.19:29
ravagechange your dist to devel in your sources file? :D19:30
_apex_had to do a reboot recently (22.04.1) Just noticed that random? installed 3rd party apps are not showing in "installed applications" ... they show when I search for them. And they launch...but they are not in the app launcher. Ideas?19:45
oerheksapex, check with the 3rd party support?19:46
oerhekswithout example we cannot tell why19:47
oerheksno launcher = no entry in your menu19:47
_apex_multiple apps from multiple 3rd parties19:49
oerheksoke, we need to ask what 3rd parties?19:49
_apex_googling seems to indicate this is a bug, was hoping gurus here had a hack  b4 Ubuntu does.  It's no biggy as I primary SSH into this box and dont use the GUI do to frequent gnome crashes.19:51
_apex_MS VS Code19:51
_apex_Firefox, Session, Telegram19:51
_apex_wonder if these are all snaps19:53
oerhekscould well be, ' which firefox'  shows the path19:53
_apex_yup, snap/bin/firefox19:56
oerheksthen it is not a bug; they show up with snap list19:57
_apex_that was just FF. Others like VS Code are not snaps.20:12
ravage_apex_, how did you install vs code then?20:13
cbreakthere's a vscode deb package: https://code.visualstudio.com/Download, and there's deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main20:16
_apex_yah I'm not sure as its been a while.  I was just going off the install location.20:22
InPhase_apex_: I tried to check and see if I have the same issue, but nothing shows up in the software center for me under Installed.  It's just a blank grey screen.  *shrug*20:24
InPhase_apex_: I'm not sure how long that's been broken, as I don't typically use it.20:24
_apex_same here I just discovered it while looking for my other apps20:25
InPhase_apex_: "snap list" will list your snaps, and "dpkg -l" will list all conventional packages installed.20:26
_apex_interesting, running snap list shows that some of my snaps are apps still showing, so does not appear to be that20:46
oerheksso how would you use them over ssh ?21:02
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Guest30hi21:10
Guest30Is there proof that ubuntu respects privacy more than windows 10? Genuinely curious21:10
oerheksis there proof it does not?21:11
oerheksmore a subject for #ubuntu-discuss21:11
Guest30alright21:11
matsamanGuest30: it's all open source, so yes21:13
jhutchinsj ubuntu-discuss21:14
xp9hi all21:27
matsamanhi21:28
xp9i have  this problem : An error has occurred. See the log file21:29
xp9/home/xp9/.eclipse/com.subgraph.vega.application.product_1.0.0.201410142137_816604884/configuration/1661202948539.log21:29
oerhekserr we cannot read that logfile21:30
oerheks!paste21:30
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:30
xp9ok21:30
oerheksand is vega in our repositories?21:31
oerheksi think it is a Kali product?21:31
matsaman"product"21:32
asmerHello folks, I'm trying to extend partition 5 in /dev/vda disk using growpart21:32
asmer$ sudo growpart /dev/vda 521:32
asmerOn running growpart, I do see it changed21:32
asmer$ CHANGED: partition=5 start=1052672 old: size=40888320 end=41940992 new: size=82833375 end=8388604721:32
asmerBut on running lsblk, I don't see partition 5 picking up the remaining 20G that's available21:32
worst_trying to RDP into an Ubuntu box but RDP keeps claiming there's a session open even though the box was just bounced.. anyone ever experience that?21:32
xp9is not a kali product nor in ubuntu repository21:32
matsamanworst_: ssh in and fix it21:32
worst_I'm not sure what "it" is21:33
matsamana clown21:33
oerhekssudo growpart /dev/vda 5 .. a space between vda and 5?21:33
asmerlsblk output after running growpart: https://imgur.com/a/0kAFAtj21:34
asmeroerheks I believe growpart takes those two parameters separately.21:34
asmerLike so: sudo growpart /dev/DEVICE_ID PARTITION_NUMBER21:35
xp9log21:35
xp9https://dpaste.com/D7WZ8U9L321:36
oerheksxp9, oke, this is ubuntu support, not arch21:36
xp9oerheks im on ubuntu not arch21:38
oerheksthat is not what the error says.. and what is vega?21:38
xp9ubuntu 18.04 lts21:38
xp9oerheks i've installed eclipse with snap --classic21:39
xp9non i have problem with java tools21:39
xp9now21:39
worst_wow thanks matsaman you're great21:40
asmerI have vda1, vda2 and vda5. Is vda5's partition number 5 or 3?21:44
asmerOn running fdisk -l /dev/vda, I get this: https://imgur.com/a/0kAFAtj21:48
asmer(second image)21:48
asmerWhy does vda2 have 20G now? I only wanted to grow vda5 :(21:49
oerheksbecause .. space between vda and 5?21:49
oerheksit takes the 1st mounted, i guess21:49
asmerWait, what do you mean space between vda and 5?21:49
asmer   Example (as per growpart --help):21:50
oerheksread back.. <asmer> oerheks I believe growpart takes those two parameters separately.21:50
asmer    - growpart /dev/sda 121:50
asmer      Resize partition 1 on /dev/sda21:50
oerheksmaybe i am wrong, but seems logical21:51
asmerCould it be that I supplied a wrong partition number and hence it took the 1st mounted?21:51
asmerIf 5 is not the right number that is.21:51
tomreynasmer: this is an MBR partition table, vda2 defines the extended region, vda5 is the first partition in the extended region.21:55
asmertomreyn vda5 is partition under vda2?21:59
asmer*is a21:59
tomreynasmer: <es, you could say so21:59
tomreynyes21:59
asmerSo what's the right growpart command in this case?22:00
asmerSomething like /dev/vda2 1?22:00
tomreyni looked at https://imgur.com/a/0kAFAtj which seems to show that all available space is already partitioned, so i'm not sure what your goal is, can you explain?22:00
tomreynoh i missed the total capacity of 40 GB, sorry22:01
asmerYep, total is 40. I want to add the excess 20G to /dev/vda5 because that's where my root filesystem is.22:02
tomreynso what you'd need to to do make use of the remaining sectors is to remove vda5, then vda2, then either (a) create a larger extended region, then create a new partition in it, or (b) create one or more primary partitions22:03
tomreynthings will get easier once you move towards gpt22:04
asmerIs removing vda5 and vda2 safe?22:05
tomreynit should not break the disk. you'll loose all your data unless you'll find a way to create the partitions at the same lower boundaries again, though, of course.22:06
asmerHmm, is there no way to just expand vda5 to just go from 20G to 40G? That's all I need honestly.22:07
tomreynif i read this right, using fdisk, you can just delete vda2 and recreate it with the intended size, then grow vda5 https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/320201/how-to-extend-logical-extended-partition-with-fdisk22:10
asmerOkay, wouldn't deleting vda2 be dangerous though?22:11
tomreynyou don't do any such operations with out known working and complete backups22:11
asmer:(22:13
asmerAs per the lsblk output, vda2 hasn't taken up the additional 20G, right?22:14
asmerWhy are we deleting it then?22:14
tomreynbecause it defines the extended region. which, currently, does not span to the end of the disk. and there can be no partition behind that. so you need to redefine the extended region.22:16
asmerAh, I see.22:16
asmerWhat's the intended size for vda2?22:19
tomreyn-122:19
tomreyni think this selects the highest available sector / block number22:20
asmerI see22:21
asmerDo I need to follow the expert command bits here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/320201/how-to-extend-logical-extended-partition-with-fdisk?22:23
tomreynno, you just delete and create.22:24
asmerLooked like it worked.22:26
asmerlsblk reflects 40G on /dev/vda5 now :)22:26
tomreynyou'll still need to grow the file system, if not done, yet22:27
asmerNow I guess I'll extend my filesystem and I should be done.22:27
asmerYes, thanks a lot :)22:27
tomreynpost the current partitioning view first if you like:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/vda | nc termbin.com 999922:28
asmerFailed to find physical volume "/dev/vda5".22:28
asmer:(22:28
asmertomreyn: https://imgur.com/2DFIDWj22:29
asmerCurrent partitioning22:29
tomreynlooks fine to me22:30
tomreynwhat's the above error message from?22:31
asmerOn running pvresize /dev/vda522:31
tomreynso there's an LVM2 PV on it?22:31
tomreyni had interpreted "I want to add the excess 20G to /dev/vda5 because that's where my root filesystem is." as "vda5 contains a single file system" - but you didn't really say so.22:34
asmerYeah, afaik, there's only a single filesystem on vda522:35
tomreynsudo file -s /dev/vda522:36
asmerhttps://imgur.com/80Hl4l122:37
tomreyndo you know the difference between text and images?22:37
asmerLol, let me copy the output to pastebin then.22:38
tomreynsudo resize2fs /dev/vda522:39
asmerhttps://dpaste.com/GQHUPDHXJ22:39
tomreynoh you need to fsck it first22:39
asmerIt looked like it worked?22:40
asmerExtra space shows up on df -h22:40
tomreynoh it's mounted?22:40
tomreynwell, luckily online resize is possible22:40
tomreynstill, unomunt and fsck it soon22:40
asmerCan I unmount a live filesystem?22:41
tomreynyou should not22:42
tomreynand while, yes, you can also do repartitioning on a live system, most of the time that's not a good idea.22:42
tomreynwell, unless you know exactly what the implications are.22:43
asmerCan I fsck upon reboot then?22:43
asmerThat seems easier22:43
asmershutdown -rF now22:44
tomreynyes it should fsck automatically on next boot22:45
asmerGreat22:45
asmerLet me do that now22:45
tomreynshould. better make sure it happened.22:45
asmerHow do I make sure fsck has run though?22:45
asmerI guess if it boots after shutdown -rF, it must have run it22:46
tomreynit would show on screen, maybe log it, and the dirty bit would no longer be set22:49
asmerI see.22:49
asmerThanks!22:49
tomreynyou're welcome22:50
tomreynand i really hope you had backups. :)22:50
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