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| jbicha | didrocks: is there a MIR team meeting today? | 14:37 |
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| didrocks | jbicha: I don’t know, I’m just back from holidays today so I was not on the last ones and haven’t the time to scrollback yet | 14:38 |
| sarnold | good morning | 14:38 |
| didrocks | there is sarnold at least :) | 14:38 |
| sarnold | welcome back from holidays :) | 14:38 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 14:38 |
| sarnold | heh, yeah, the day I lose track of time in the shower.. | 14:38 |
| didrocks | I’m happy to drive the meeting, but I’m out of context of what was reviewed or so | 14:39 |
| didrocks | haha | 14:39 |
| slyon | o/ ugh, I'm actually here as well | 14:39 |
| didrocks | jbicha: anything urgent you wanted to discuss? (TBH, with FF being on Thursday, it’s unlikely things will be reviewed before FF at this point) | 14:39 |
| didrocks | hey slyon | 14:39 |
| jbicha | could you check the status for webp-pixbuf-loader and lerc? | 14:40 |
| sarnold | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lerc/+bug/1977551 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1977551 in lerc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lerc" [Undecided, In Progress] | 14:41 |
| sarnold | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webp-pixbuf-loader/+bug/1979121 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1979121 in webp-pixbuf-loader (Ubuntu) "[MIR] webp-pixbuf-loader" [Low, In Progress] | 14:41 |
| jbicha | I don't yet have an answer from Desktop about the hardware request for bug 1963707 so we can keep that in unfinished business until next week | 14:42 |
| ubottu | Bug 1963707 in libqrtr-glib (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libqrtr-glib" [Low, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1963707 | 14:42 |
| slyon | didrocks: do you want to chair this meeting? Do we run it at all..? Last week we had basically no quorum and were unable to do anything productive. | 14:42 |
| didrocks | slyon: I’m happy to chair the meeting, ack on last week, so let’s do that one | 14:43 |
| didrocks | and we will go over jbicha's one as we go | 14:43 |
| didrocks | one sec, getting the links | 14:43 |
| sarnold | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir | 14:44 |
| didrocks | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:44 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 14:44:07 UTC. The chair is didrocks. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 14:44 |
| didrocks | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage | 14:44 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 14:44 |
| didrocks | #topic current component mismatches | 14:44 |
| didrocks | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:44 |
| didrocks | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:44 |
| didrocks | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:44 |
| joalif | o/ | 14:44 |
| slyon | -release is all known | 14:44 |
| didrocks | c-m looks ok, c-m-p less | 14:45 |
| didrocks | lintian blocked on proposed due to all perl things | 14:45 |
| slyon | lintian ones were actually done and are ready for review | 14:45 |
| ginggs | o/ that's LP: #1980662 | 14:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1980662 in lintian (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lib*-perl for lintian 2.115" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1980662 | 14:45 |
| slyon | i investigated inetutils, too. I think it needs AA action. I put all my findings in bug #1980663 | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Bug 1980663 in netkit-telnet (Ubuntu) "[MIR] false-positives, do not promote" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1980663 | 14:46 |
| sarnold | slyon: oh nice work tracking down inetutils | 14:46 |
| ginggs | i'm hoping there's still time for reviewing a couple of perl packages before FF | 14:46 |
| jbicha | feel free to demote gnome-todo now | 14:46 |
| slyon | maybe cpaelzer could have a look at that inetutils vs netkit-telnet ^ once he's back | 14:46 |
| didrocks | yeah | 14:46 |
| didrocks | slyon: you are the requester for the perl ones, I think that means apart from lintian, you can’t have a look at some others? | 14:47 |
| slyon | didrocks: I think we left libwacom vs python libevdev for you/desktop to investigate | 14:47 |
| slyon | didrocks: yes it would be good to have another team to review those foundations MIRs | 14:47 |
| didrocks | slyon: ah, the rest of perl ones are all dealt with? I see a lot of New on bug #1980662 | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Bug 1980662 in lintian (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lib*-perl for lintian 2.115" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1980662 | 14:47 |
| didrocks | ok, I can take 2, the 2 other for joalif? | 14:48 |
| slyon | yes, that's all of them. ginggs did a great job with that | 14:48 |
| didrocks | it won’t be in time for FF, I must say | 14:48 |
| joalif | ok | 14:48 |
| didrocks | joalif: taking the first 2 ones, assigning you the 2 others? | 14:48 |
| didrocks | (done) | 14:49 |
| didrocks | looking at bug #1980663 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Bug 1980663 in netkit-telnet (Ubuntu) "[MIR] false-positives, do not promote" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1980663 | 14:49 |
| ginggs | didrocks: np, i can request an FFe for Lintian if the MIRs are approved | 14:49 |
| didrocks | ack, thanks ginggs :) | 14:50 |
| didrocks | slyon: I would deal with the demotion/promotion for *telnet* tomorrow | 14:50 |
| didrocks | if no other AA beats me to it :p | 14:50 |
| slyon | sounds good, thanks didrocks | 14:50 |
| didrocks | and as you say, that left libwacom -> python-libevdev | 14:51 |
| didrocks | jbicha: do you mind looking at it from a desktop perspective? ^ | 14:51 |
| didrocks | I’m happy to open the bug and assign it to you otherwise as a reminder :p | 14:52 |
| jbicha | yeah, I just need to talk to Timo about it | 14:52 |
| didrocks | ack, letting this in your hands | 14:52 |
| didrocks | on bug #1979121, it seems an ACK, any objection? | 14:52 |
| ubottu | Bug 1979121 in webp-pixbuf-loader (Ubuntu) "[MIR] webp-pixbuf-loader" [Low, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1979121 | 14:52 |
| slyon | didrocks: I agree | 14:53 |
| sarnold | the requested todo was autopkgtests, those appear to have been added, right? | 14:54 |
| slyon | so the status is probably correct "In Progress". is it already pulled in as a dependency? | 14:54 |
| didrocks | yeah, I was wondering about the second part of the required TODO | 14:54 |
| didrocks | - consider adding a set of "known content" webp pictures that you can | 14:54 |
| didrocks | compare against expected results in the way the gnome thumbnailer will | 14:54 |
| didrocks | use them (details see below). | 14:54 |
| jbicha | eog -proposed depends on webp-pixbuf-thumbnailer now | 14:54 |
| didrocks | jbicha: do you know if those were added? | 14:55 |
| jbicha | didrocks: is this it? https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/webp-pixbuf-loader/-/blob/debian/latest/debian/tests/determinism-test | 14:55 |
| didrocks | ack, there were 2 parts in the autopgktests, the intial testsuite and this addition | 14:55 |
| didrocks | nice, ok, I’ll handle the promotion (tomorrow too) | 14:55 |
| didrocks | moving on to lerc | 14:55 |
| didrocks | it seems to be blocked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lerc/+bug/1977551/comments/9 | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1977551 in lerc (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lerc" [Undecided, In Progress] | 14:56 |
| sarnold | that determinism test lookis like it's still missing from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webp-pixbuf-loader/0.0.5-5 | 14:56 |
| didrocks | jbicha: sarnold is correct, it’s not in ubuntu yet | 14:56 |
| didrocks | so I guess you need to upload this before we promote it | 14:57 |
| didrocks | added the 28 of June | 14:57 |
| didrocks | last upload was the 26 | 14:57 |
| didrocks | so I guess on webp-pixbuf-loader, ack under the condition new version is upload | 14:58 |
| didrocks | and lerc needs some desktop work still, at least answering latest comments | 14:58 |
| jbicha | sarnold: the webp-pixbuf-loader autopkgtest was already updated in kinetic: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/w/webp-pixbuf-loader/kinetic/amd64 | 14:58 |
| * didrocks downloads the source package, will be quicker | 14:59 | |
| sarnold | jbicha: hmm; the "diff from 0.0.5-2ubuntu1 (in Ubuntu) to 0.0.5-5" link on launchpad http://launchpadlibrarian.net/610400206/webp-pixbuf-loader_0.0.5-2ubuntu1_0.0.5-5.diff.gz ... | 14:59 |
| didrocks | ack, there is a debian/tests/determinism-test | 14:59 |
| jbicha | yes, we applied the change before Debian did :) | 15:00 |
| sarnold | YAY | 15:00 |
| sarnold | sorry for the trouble; I didn't see it in the launchpad diff.. | 15:00 |
| didrocks | ok, so lerc, to be investigated by desktop | 15:00 |
| didrocks | ack on webp-pixbuf-loader | 15:00 |
| didrocks | moving on | 15:00 |
| didrocks | done for c-m | 15:00 |
| didrocks | the rest looks already known | 15:00 |
| didrocks | #topic New MIRs | 15:00 |
| didrocks | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 15:01 |
| didrocks | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:01 |
| didrocks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stoken/+bug/1986592 | 15:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1986592 in openconnect (Ubuntu) "[MIR] network-manager-openconnect, openconnect, python-mechanize, stoken" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:01 |
| slyon | I think both of those new MIRs are still under discussion with sarnold | 15:01 |
| didrocks | ack, I see this has indeed been discussed | 15:02 |
| didrocks | leaving them to New for now? | 15:02 |
| sarnold | yeah | 15:02 |
| didrocks | ack | 15:02 |
| jbicha | didrocks: for lerc, we just need to enable it on i386, right? is that something you wnat to do? | 15:02 |
| didrocks | good luck sarnold :) | 15:02 |
| sarnold | without an owning team there's not a whole lot for us to discuss there imho | 15:02 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I think you need to check that with steve, I don’t have the bandwith/knowledge for this | 15:02 |
| didrocks | sarnold: agreed | 15:02 |
| didrocks | jbicha: then, once all sorted, feel free to ping me for a last look/AA work | 15:03 |
| jbicha | got it, thanks | 15:03 |
| didrocks | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:03 |
| didrocks | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:03 |
| didrocks | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:03 |
| didrocks | I saw that desktop retracted gnome-console | 15:03 |
| didrocks | the rest looks even older, am I missing anything? | 15:04 |
| sarnold | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua5.4/+bug/1909665 had something ten days ago | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1909665 in lua5.4 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ibus-libpinyin dependencies" [Low, Incomplete] | 15:04 |
| didrocks | yeah, not discussed in last week no quorum meeting? | 15:05 |
| slyon | lua5.4 was assigned to the server team and Incomplete status | 15:05 |
| slyon | which is the correct state for now IMO | 15:05 |
| slyon | It needs a proper MIR template, if it should be included/reviewed | 15:05 |
| didrocks | that’s my understanding too | 15:06 |
| didrocks | ok, moving on then | 15:06 |
| didrocks | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 15:06 |
| didrocks | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 15:06 |
| didrocks | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:06 |
| didrocks | Internal link | 15:06 |
| didrocks | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 15:06 |
| didrocks | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 15:06 |
| didrocks | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 15:06 |
| slyon | didrocks: OTHO... it might just be a lua5.3 -> lua5.4 version bump... not sure how we handled those in the past? | 15:06 |
| didrocks | slyon: depends on how big is the transition, it should be staged in proposed anyway, but normally if the changes were okish, no need for a new MIR | 15:07 |
| didrocks | but it seems this got some discussion with Christian and I don’t think it’s realistic to handle it ourself without context before FF, so better for next week (and we have already quite some MIR work assigned) | 15:08 |
| slyon | ACK | 15:08 |
| didrocks | sarnold: the stage is yours, you had quite some assignements recently | 15:08 |
| sarnold | aye, and mark and spyros have been doing a *lot* of work on this backlog :) | 15:08 |
| didrocks | but you take all the credit :p | 15:08 |
| didrocks | (and the blame…) | 15:08 |
| sarnold | nullboot is still at risk, it's challenging topic and we assigned it to the guy who wrote it for review, and there's apparently a goal for it all to go away anyway.. heh | 15:08 |
| sarnold | didrocks: very much so! I'd say I've got management potential written all over me.. | 15:09 |
| didrocks | hum | 15:09 |
| didrocks | ahah | 15:09 |
| didrocks | ok on nullboot, for the rest, I think FF is too close, but the goal for this cycle are still doable? | 15:10 |
| sarnold | and we've got some discussion with legal and foundations about the releative risks of 4-clause bsd vs gpl compared against a relatively immature sasl library | 15:10 |
| sarnold | I may have to be rude to my teammates today and tomorrow but mdevctl in the next two days seems plausible enough, yeah, heh | 15:10 |
| didrocks | sounds like good news, thanks sarnold and keep up the (hem) pressure :p | 15:10 |
| * sarnold cracks the whipe | 15:11 | |
| didrocks | :) | 15:11 |
| didrocks | #topic Any other business? | 15:11 |
| sarnold | nothing I can think of that needs to happen this week, heh | 15:11 |
| joalif | nothing fom me | 15:11 |
| slyon | nothing here | 15:11 |
| didrocks | (nothing from me at least, just back this morning from holidays and a lot of backlogs + FF work, hence probably the post-FF review for the perl things) | 15:11 |
| didrocks | sounds good, so, thanks a lot everyone, and back to FF rush :p | 15:12 |
| didrocks | #endmeeting | 15:12 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:12:14 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-08-23-14.44.moin.txt | 15:12 |
| sarnold | thanks didrocks, all :) | 15:12 |
| joalif | thanks didrocks, all :) | 15:12 |
| slyon | thanks for didrocks! | 15:12 |
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