[14:37] <jbicha> didrocks: is there a MIR team meeting today?
[14:38] <didrocks> jbicha: I don’t know, I’m just back from holidays today so I was not on the last ones and haven’t the time to scrollback yet
[14:38] <sarnold> good morning
[14:38] <didrocks> there is sarnold at least :)
[14:38] <sarnold> welcome back from holidays :)
[14:38] <didrocks> thanks!
[14:38] <sarnold> heh, yeah, the day I lose track of time in the shower..
[14:39] <didrocks> I’m happy to drive the meeting, but I’m out of context of what was reviewed or so
[14:39] <didrocks> haha
[14:39] <slyon> o/ ugh, I'm actually here as well
[14:39] <didrocks> jbicha: anything urgent you wanted to discuss? (TBH, with FF being on Thursday, it’s unlikely things will be reviewed before FF at this point)
[14:39] <didrocks> hey slyon
[14:40] <jbicha> could you check the status for webp-pixbuf-loader and lerc?
[14:41] <sarnold> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lerc/+bug/1977551
[14:41] <sarnold> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webp-pixbuf-loader/+bug/1979121
[14:42] <jbicha> I don't yet have an answer from Desktop about the hardware request for bug 1963707 so we can keep that in unfinished business until next week
[14:42] <slyon> didrocks: do you want to chair this meeting? Do we run it at all..? Last week we had basically no quorum and were unable to do anything productive.
[14:43] <didrocks> slyon: I’m happy to chair the meeting, ack on last week, so let’s do that one
[14:43] <didrocks> and we will go over jbicha's one as we go
[14:43] <didrocks> one sec, getting the links
[14:44] <sarnold> https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir
[14:44] <didrocks> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[14:44] <didrocks> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage
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[14:44] <didrocks> #topic current component mismatches
[14:44] <didrocks> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[14:44] <didrocks> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:44] <didrocks> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:44] <joalif> o/
[14:44] <slyon> -release is all known
[14:45] <didrocks> c-m looks ok, c-m-p less
[14:45] <didrocks> lintian blocked on proposed due to all perl things
[14:45] <slyon> lintian ones were actually done and are ready for review
[14:45] <ginggs> o/ that's LP: #1980662
[14:46] <slyon> i investigated inetutils, too. I think it needs AA action. I put all my findings in bug #1980663
[14:46] <sarnold> slyon: oh nice work tracking down inetutils
[14:46] <ginggs> i'm hoping there's still time for reviewing a couple of perl packages before FF
[14:46] <jbicha> feel free to demote gnome-todo now
[14:46] <slyon> maybe cpaelzer could have a look at that inetutils vs netkit-telnet ^ once he's back
[14:46] <didrocks> yeah
[14:47] <didrocks> slyon: you are the requester for the perl ones, I think that means apart from lintian, you can’t have a look at some others?
[14:47] <slyon> didrocks: I think we left libwacom vs python libevdev for you/desktop to investigate
[14:47] <slyon> didrocks: yes it would be good to have another team to review those foundations MIRs
[14:47] <didrocks> slyon: ah, the rest of perl ones are all dealt with? I see a lot of New on bug #1980662
[14:48] <didrocks> ok, I can take 2, the 2 other for joalif?
[14:48] <slyon> yes, that's all of them. ginggs did a great job with that
[14:48] <didrocks> it won’t be in time for FF, I must say
[14:48] <joalif> ok
[14:48] <didrocks> joalif: taking the first 2 ones, assigning you the 2 others?
[14:49] <didrocks> (done)
[14:49] <didrocks> looking at bug #1980663
[14:49] <ginggs> didrocks: np, i can request an FFe for Lintian if the MIRs are approved
[14:50] <didrocks> ack, thanks ginggs :)
[14:50] <didrocks> slyon: I would deal with the demotion/promotion for *telnet* tomorrow
[14:50] <didrocks> if no other AA beats me to it :p
[14:50] <slyon> sounds good, thanks didrocks
[14:51] <didrocks> and as you say, that left libwacom -> python-libevdev
[14:51] <didrocks> jbicha: do you mind looking at it from a desktop perspective? ^
[14:52] <didrocks> I’m happy to open the bug and assign it to you otherwise as a reminder :p
[14:52] <jbicha> yeah, I just need to talk to Timo about it
[14:52] <didrocks> ack, letting this in your hands
[14:52] <didrocks> on bug #1979121, it seems an ACK, any objection?
[14:53] <slyon> didrocks: I agree
[14:54] <sarnold> the requested todo was autopkgtests, those appear to have been added, right?
[14:54] <slyon> so the status is probably correct "In Progress". is it already pulled in as a dependency?
[14:54] <didrocks> yeah, I was wondering about the second part of the required TODO
[14:54] <didrocks>   - consider adding a set of "known content" webp pictures that you can
[14:54] <didrocks>     compare against expected results in the way the gnome thumbnailer will
[14:54] <didrocks>     use them (details see below).
[14:54] <jbicha> eog -proposed depends on webp-pixbuf-thumbnailer now
[14:55] <didrocks> jbicha: do you know if those were added?
[14:55] <jbicha> didrocks: is this it? https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/webp-pixbuf-loader/-/blob/debian/latest/debian/tests/determinism-test
[14:55] <didrocks> ack, there were 2 parts in the autopgktests, the intial testsuite and this addition
[14:55] <didrocks> nice, ok, I’ll handle the promotion (tomorrow too)
[14:55] <didrocks> moving on to lerc
[14:56] <didrocks> it seems to be blocked on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lerc/+bug/1977551/comments/9
[14:56] <sarnold> that determinism test lookis like it's still missing from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webp-pixbuf-loader/0.0.5-5
[14:56] <didrocks> jbicha: sarnold is correct, it’s not in ubuntu yet
[14:57] <didrocks> so I guess you need to upload this before we promote it
[14:57] <didrocks> added the 28 of June
[14:57] <didrocks> last upload was the 26
[14:58] <didrocks> so I guess on webp-pixbuf-loader, ack under the condition new version is upload
[14:58] <didrocks> and lerc needs some desktop work still, at least answering latest comments
[14:58] <jbicha> sarnold: the webp-pixbuf-loader autopkgtest was already updated in kinetic: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/w/webp-pixbuf-loader/kinetic/amd64
[14:59]  * didrocks downloads the source package, will be quicker
[14:59] <sarnold> jbicha: hmm; the "diff from 0.0.5-2ubuntu1 (in Ubuntu) to 0.0.5-5" link on launchpad http://launchpadlibrarian.net/610400206/webp-pixbuf-loader_0.0.5-2ubuntu1_0.0.5-5.diff.gz  ...
[14:59] <didrocks> ack, there is a debian/tests/determinism-test
[15:00] <jbicha> yes, we applied the change before Debian did :)
[15:00] <sarnold> YAY
[15:00] <sarnold> sorry for the trouble; I didn't see it in the launchpad diff..
[15:00] <didrocks> ok, so lerc, to be investigated by desktop
[15:00] <didrocks> ack on webp-pixbuf-loader
[15:00] <didrocks> moving on
[15:00] <didrocks> done for c-m
[15:00] <didrocks> the rest looks already known
[15:00] <didrocks> #topic New MIRs
[15:01] <didrocks> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
[15:01] <didrocks> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:01] <didrocks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stoken/+bug/1986592
[15:01] <slyon> I think both of those new MIRs are still under discussion with sarnold
[15:02] <didrocks> ack, I see this has indeed been discussed
[15:02] <didrocks> leaving them to New for now?
[15:02] <sarnold> yeah
[15:02] <didrocks> ack
[15:02] <jbicha> didrocks: for lerc, we just need to enable it on i386, right? is that something you wnat to do?
[15:02] <didrocks> good luck sarnold :)
[15:02] <sarnold> without an owning team there's not a whole lot for us to discuss there imho
[15:02] <didrocks> jbicha: I think you need to check that with steve, I don’t have the bandwith/knowledge for this
[15:02] <didrocks> sarnold: agreed
[15:03] <didrocks> jbicha: then, once all sorted, feel free to ping me for a last look/AA work
[15:03] <jbicha> got it, thanks
[15:03] <didrocks> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:03] <didrocks> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:03] <didrocks> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:03] <didrocks> I saw that desktop retracted gnome-console
[15:04] <didrocks> the rest looks even older, am I missing anything?
[15:04] <sarnold> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua5.4/+bug/1909665 had something ten days ago
[15:05] <didrocks> yeah, not discussed in last week no quorum meeting?
[15:05] <slyon> lua5.4 was assigned to the server team and Incomplete status
[15:05] <slyon> which is the correct state for now IMO
[15:05] <slyon> It needs a proper MIR template, if it should be included/reviewed
[15:06] <didrocks> that’s my understanding too
[15:06] <didrocks> ok, moving on then
[15:06] <didrocks> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
[15:06] <didrocks> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
[15:06] <didrocks> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:06] <didrocks> Internal link
[15:06] <didrocks> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
[15:06] <didrocks> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
[15:06] <didrocks> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
[15:06] <slyon> didrocks: OTHO... it might just be a lua5.3 -> lua5.4 version bump... not sure how we handled those in the past?
[15:07] <didrocks> slyon: depends on how big is the transition, it should be staged in proposed anyway, but normally if the changes were okish, no need for a new MIR
[15:08] <didrocks> but it seems this got some discussion with Christian and I don’t think it’s realistic to handle it ourself without context before FF, so better for next week (and we have already quite some MIR work assigned)
[15:08] <slyon> ACK
[15:08] <didrocks> sarnold: the stage is yours, you had quite some assignements recently
[15:08] <sarnold> aye, and mark and spyros have been doing a *lot* of work on this backlog :)
[15:08] <didrocks> but you take all the credit :p
[15:08] <didrocks> (and the blame…)
[15:08] <sarnold> nullboot is still at risk, it's challenging topic and we assigned it to the guy who wrote it for review, and there's apparently a goal for it all to go away anyway.. heh
[15:09] <sarnold> didrocks: very much so! I'd say I've got management potential written all over me..
[15:09] <didrocks> hum
[15:09] <didrocks> ahah
[15:10] <didrocks> ok on nullboot, for the rest, I think FF is too close, but the goal for this cycle are still doable?
[15:10] <sarnold> and we've got some discussion with legal and foundations about the releative risks of 4-clause bsd vs gpl  compared against a relatively immature sasl library
[15:10] <sarnold> I may have to be rude to my teammates today and tomorrow but mdevctl in the next two days seems plausible enough, yeah, heh
[15:10] <didrocks> sounds like good news, thanks sarnold and keep up the (hem) pressure :p
[15:11]  * sarnold cracks the whipe
[15:11] <didrocks> :)
[15:11] <didrocks> #topic Any other business?
[15:11] <sarnold> nothing I can think of that needs to happen this week, heh
[15:11] <joalif> nothing fom me
[15:11] <slyon> nothing here
[15:11] <didrocks> (nothing from me at least, just back this morning from holidays and a lot of backlogs + FF work, hence probably the post-FF review for the perl things)
[15:12] <didrocks> sounds good, so, thanks a lot everyone, and back to FF rush :p
[15:12] <didrocks> #endmeeting
[15:12] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:12:14 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-08-23-14.44.moin.txt
[15:12] <sarnold> thanks didrocks, all :)
[15:12] <joalif> thanks didrocks, all :)
[15:12] <slyon> thanks for didrocks!