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juliank#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:00
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juliank#topic Lightning Round15:00
slyono/15:00
ginggsjuliank: i think you mean https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-25-august-2022/15:01
juliank#link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-25-august-2022/15:01
juliankyeah15:01
julianklet's have ourselves sometime to look at this and ask questions15:01
bdmurrayI like the first line in dbungert's status15:04
bdmurrayMaybe the second one too15:04
juliankcongrats to dbungert15:04
dbungertjuliank: thanks!15:05
dbungertbdmurray: I will be clicking tests for a while to catch up with how many you ran for me15:05
ginggsin before bdmurray says you shouldn't be clicking, but rather using retry-autopkgtest-regressions15:06
bdmurray;-)15:07
juliank#topic Release incoming bugs15:09
juliank#link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-kk-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:09
juliankbug 1699942 is actually raised by me15:09
ubottuBug 1699942 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager fails to deprecate addresses" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169994215:09
juliankSo IPv6 routes get advertised by the router as invalid, but NM does not remove them, it just sets their TTL to 1s15:10
julianks/routes/prefixes/15:10
juliankWell the /128 prefix is around all the time15:10
juliankI actually lost IRC a couple minutes ago as the route broke :D15:10
julianksystemd looks the same15:11
juliankI don't know what's actually reading the router advertisements?15:11
juliankNot a regression, bug was around in xenial15:11
juliankadded a linux task, we believe that's what's handling the RAs15:13
juliankbug 198110915:14
ubottuBug 1981109 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "server image pulls in ModemManager via fwupd, consumes 25MiB RAM in every container" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198110915:14
bdmurrayIIRC the remaining task is for desktop15:14
juliankvorlon: is there anything left?15:15
vorlonjuliank: livecd-rootfs is being SRUed to jammy, I think the rls-kk-incoming task could be dropped (or the bug could just be targeted to kinetic since livecd-rootfs was uploaded there)15:16
juliankack15:18
juliankbug 109746715:18
ubottuBug 1097467 in bash (Ubuntu) "bash does not fulfill --rcfile option properly" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109746715:18
bdmurrayR alpha-1 would be like Raring?15:18
juliankfurther discussion to happen15:19
juliank#link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:19
juliankbug 198664815:19
ubottuBug 1986648 in rustc (Ubuntu) "rustc 1.61 and cargo 0.62 required by firefox 105" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198664815:19
juliankschopin: ^15:20
schopinYes, this needs carding as I'm guessing it will take a bit of time.15:20
mclemenceauon it ;)15:20
schopinthanks :)15:20
juliankbug 198172115:21
ubottuBug 1981721 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "dual port SRIOV NIC with 64 VFs per PF  is not configured with switchdev eswitch mode" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198172115:21
slyonlet's skip this ^15:21
slyonno updates yet15:21
juliankbug 197982515:21
ubottuBug 1979825 in amd64-microcode (Ubuntu) "Please consider shipping April 2022 microcode updates" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197982515:21
juliankprobably should jfdi15:21
ginggsisn't that done?15:21
slyonthere was an update recently15:22
slyonhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/3.20220809.0ubuntu115:22
ginggsah, in kinetic, needs sru15:22
juliankamd, not intel15:22
juliankah yes15:22
julianklet's card this15:22
slyonahh15:22
bdmurrayI tagged the bug in part because I think something is missing process wise15:22
juliankRevert to 3.20180524.1 version of microcode because of regressions on15:23
juliank    certain hardware. (LP: #1853614)15:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1853614 in amd64-microcode (Ubuntu) "System stuck in reboot loop on AMD EPYC 7542 32-Core Processor" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185361415:23
juliankis in bioinic15:23
juliankprobably should be checked if that was fixed15:23
julianksomeone needs to monitor amd microcode updates, I suppose15:23
juliankor at least when merging, SRU it / create a bug?15:24
bdmurrayI wonder if there is a mailing list or announcement mechanism similar to tzdata15:24
julianklinux-firmware@kernel.org15:25
juliankno?15:25
bdmurrayAnyway, lets not hold up the meeting15:26
juliankAnyhow should be carded and comment added to investigate how to deal better15:26
juliankmclemenceau: are you carding?15:26
mclemenceausure thing15:27
juliank#topic Team proposed-migration report15:27
juliankhttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:27
juliankum15:27
juliank#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:28
juliankvorlon:15:28
vorlonlet's see how bad things are on the eve of FF15:28
vorlonas I go through these, if it's a merge you've touched recently, please speak up and take the package to follow through on15:28
juliankvery bad15:28
vorlonlintian: still blocked on an ongoing MIR15:29
vorlonginggs: are you still driving this?15:29
vorlonah looks like all the open tasks are assigned elsewhere now, mostly to MIR team members15:29
ginggsvorlon: it's now in review by mir team15:29
slyonbut won't make it before FF15:29
vorlonslyon: is the MIR team aiming to approve it after FF?15:30
slyonvorlon: yes. we might want to file a FFe for it then15:30
bdmurrayupdate-notifier was my upload15:30
vorlonmutt is also blocked by MIR, looks like it's had server team review but I'm not sure where in the process this is currently15:30
ginggsi offered to file an FFe, but is it required?  lintian was upload before FF15:31
vorlonI would say no to an FFe for lintian, which is particularly a developer-oriented tool anyway15:31
schopinI thought FFe weren't necessary for MIRs?15:31
slyonvorlon: mutt was stuck on security review. but got a recent update, so we might be able to unblock it15:31
ginggsvorlon: no as in not needed, or no as in no exception granted?15:32
vorlonginggs: no as in not needed15:32
ginggsvorlon: thanks for clarifying15:32
vorlonschopin: if the MIR is to enable turning on a new feature that hasn't been turned on yet, it's arguable there should be a FF.  But we also generally for things that have been uploaded to -proposed before FF don't require MIR15:32
slyonfor mutt, looks like we're ready to promote gsasl & libntlm, but might still need to drop/revert the libgssglue dependency to get it resolved15:33
vorlongcc-12 being built on arm64 is holding a few things up (gcc-12-cross -> gcc-defaults), but the build is in progress, so assuming this will shake out15:33
vorlonrustc is just waiting for glibc15:34
vorlonlibuv1: that was mentioned in the weekly report15:34
vorlonenr0n: will you be able to follow through on this?15:34
enr0nvorlon: Yes I am working on it today. Bug 1987558 has a patch for siridb-server15:35
ubottuBug 1987558 in siridb-server (Debian) "libuv1 breaks siridb-server autopkgtest: test times out" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198755815:35
vorlonlibuv1: enr0n:15:35
vorlonthanks15:35
enr0nno problem15:35
vorlonpsycopg2: was assigned to bdrung but it appears he went on PTO before getting to it so we need a new volunteer15:35
vorlonalexghiti: can you take this?15:36
alexghitiAck15:36
vorlonthanks15:36
vorlonnetkit-telnetd: MIR team seems to be suggestion demotion, which I'm unsure about15:37
slyonvorlon: It was not in main before AFAICT15:37
vorlontelnet is present as a Recommends: of ubuntu-standard15:37
slyon(like before the rename)15:37
vorlonand it is a common network debugging tool15:38
slyonalso IIUC it is about to be dropped from ubuntu-standard (ubuntu-meta)15:38
vorlonwhy do you say that?15:38
vorlondropping it from standard is the sort of thing that should be discussed on ubuntu-devel, I haven't seen discussion there15:38
slyonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plzip/+bug/1980663/comments/615:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1980663 in netkit-telnet (Ubuntu) "[MIR] false-positives, do not promote" [Undecided, Triaged]15:38
slyonthat's what jbicha suggested15:39
vorlonok I think he meant telnetd15:39
vorlonprobably correct15:39
vorlonI'll take this one to follow through on15:39
slyonthanks15:39
vorlonlbnss-db, just waiting on glibc15:39
vorlonpython-secretstorage: juliank can you take this?15:39
vorlongit: I merged it, I'll follow through15:40
juliankack15:40
vorlonisc-dhcp: waiting for glibc15:40
vorlonnetplan.io: slyon can you take?15:40
slyonyes15:40
slyon(already resolved with upstream NM, actually)15:41
vorlonperfect, thanks15:41
vorlonslyon: so I just looked, and the issue is that the telnet binary has moved from netkit-telnet source to inetutils source15:42
vorlonlsb: my merge, I'll take it15:42
vorlonopenssh: my merge, I'll take that too15:42
slyonvorlon: yes, it has been discussed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plzip/+bug/1980663/comments/415:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1980663 in netkit-telnet (Ubuntu) "[MIR] false-positives, do not promote" [Undecided, Triaged]15:42
slyonthere's some more related comments on that bug report15:43
vorlonslyon: right. telnetd should clearly be demoted, netkit-telnet does not satisfy the existing Recommends on telnet, we should reintroduce telnet as a transitional package otherwise users don't get netkit-telnet on upgrade15:45
vorlonI'll follow through on that then15:45
vorlonupdate-motd vs update-notifier: dbungert ?15:46
dbungertvorlon: ack15:46
vorlonglibc: I continue playing whack-a-mole with autopkgtest false positives, and I believe mwhudson and schopin are still on top of the true positives15:47
* schopin nods15:47
vorloncross-toolchain-base vs kmod: ginggs ?15:47
ginggsvorlon: ack15:47
vorlondiffutils just waiting for autopkgtest results15:47
ginggsand it's my merge15:48
ginggserr, sync15:48
ginggsbut i'll keep an eye on diffutils15:48
vorlonginggs: actually there are a number of kmod-related autopkgtest failures, can you take the lot please?15:48
ginggsvorlon: sure15:49
vorlonginggs: and cross-toolchain-base is also blocking procps, so if you could look at that at the same time?15:49
slyonthere's an update excuse bug about kmod: LP: #1987620 (it was my merge)15:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1987620 in kmod (Ubuntu) "kmod v30 missing new modules.builtin.modinfo file" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198762015:49
vorlonlikely a common failure cause15:49
ginggsvorlon: yes, i'll take procps as well15:50
vorlonand livecd-rootfs is an unrelated blocker for procps; bdmurray can you look at this?15:50
vorlonand then that's the list for today15:50
juliank#topic AOB15:50
bdmurrayI'm out tomorrow15:53
juliankAnyone else out?15:54
juliankMost already are :)15:56
juliank#endmeeting15:58
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