[14:59] <juliank> o/
[14:59] <ginggs> o/
[14:59] <schopin> o/
[15:00] <alexghiti> o/
[15:00] <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:00] <enr0n> o/
[15:00] <juliank> #topic Lightning Round
[15:00] <slyon> o/
[15:01] <ginggs> juliank: i think you mean https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-25-august-2022/
[15:01] <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-25-august-2022/
[15:01] <juliank> yeah
[15:01] <juliank> let's have ourselves sometime to look at this and ask questions
[15:04] <bdmurray> I like the first line in dbungert's status
[15:04] <bdmurray> Maybe the second one too
[15:04] <juliank> congrats to dbungert
[15:05] <dbungert> juliank: thanks!
[15:05] <dbungert> bdmurray: I will be clicking tests for a while to catch up with how many you ran for me
[15:06] <ginggs> in before bdmurray says you shouldn't be clicking, but rather using retry-autopkgtest-regressions
[15:07] <bdmurray> ;-)
[15:09] <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:09] <juliank> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-kk-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:09] <juliank> bug 1699942 is actually raised by me
[15:10] <juliank> So IPv6 routes get advertised by the router as invalid, but NM does not remove them, it just sets their TTL to 1s
[15:10] <juliank> s/routes/prefixes/
[15:10] <juliank> Well the /128 prefix is around all the time
[15:10] <juliank> I actually lost IRC a couple minutes ago as the route broke :D
[15:11] <juliank> systemd looks the same
[15:11] <juliank> I don't know what's actually reading the router advertisements?
[15:11] <juliank> Not a regression, bug was around in xenial
[15:13] <juliank> added a linux task, we believe that's what's handling the RAs
[15:14] <juliank> bug 1981109
[15:14] <bdmurray> IIRC the remaining task is for desktop
[15:15] <juliank> vorlon: is there anything left?
[15:16] <vorlon> juliank: livecd-rootfs is being SRUed to jammy, I think the rls-kk-incoming task could be dropped (or the bug could just be targeted to kinetic since livecd-rootfs was uploaded there)
[15:18] <juliank> ack
[15:18] <juliank> bug 1097467
[15:18] <bdmurray> R alpha-1 would be like Raring?
[15:19] <juliank> further discussion to happen
[15:19] <juliank> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:19] <juliank> bug 1986648
[15:20] <juliank> schopin: ^
[15:20] <schopin> Yes, this needs carding as I'm guessing it will take a bit of time.
[15:20] <mclemenceau> on it ;)
[15:20] <schopin> thanks :)
[15:21] <juliank> bug 1981721
[15:21] <slyon> let's skip this ^
[15:21] <slyon> no updates yet
[15:21] <juliank> bug 1979825
[15:21] <juliank> probably should jfdi
[15:21] <ginggs> isn't that done?
[15:22] <slyon> there was an update recently
[15:22] <slyon> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/3.20220809.0ubuntu1
[15:22] <ginggs> ah, in kinetic, needs sru
[15:22] <juliank> amd, not intel
[15:22] <juliank> ah yes
[15:22] <juliank> let's card this
[15:22] <slyon> ahh
[15:22] <bdmurray> I tagged the bug in part because I think something is missing process wise
[15:23] <juliank> Revert to 3.20180524.1 version of microcode because of regressions on
[15:23] <juliank>     certain hardware. (LP: #1853614)
[15:23] <juliank> is in bioinic
[15:23] <juliank> probably should be checked if that was fixed
[15:23] <juliank> someone needs to monitor amd microcode updates, I suppose
[15:24] <juliank> or at least when merging, SRU it / create a bug?
[15:24] <bdmurray> I wonder if there is a mailing list or announcement mechanism similar to tzdata
[15:25] <juliank> linux-firmware@kernel.org
[15:25] <juliank> no?
[15:26] <bdmurray> Anyway, lets not hold up the meeting
[15:26] <juliank> Anyhow should be carded and comment added to investigate how to deal better
[15:26] <juliank> mclemenceau: are you carding?
[15:27] <mclemenceau> sure thing
[15:27] <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:27] <juliank> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:27] <juliank> um
[15:28] <juliank> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:28] <juliank> vorlon:
[15:28] <vorlon> let's see how bad things are on the eve of FF
[15:28] <vorlon> as I go through these, if it's a merge you've touched recently, please speak up and take the package to follow through on
[15:28] <juliank> very bad
[15:29] <vorlon> lintian: still blocked on an ongoing MIR
[15:29] <vorlon> ginggs: are you still driving this?
[15:29] <vorlon> ah looks like all the open tasks are assigned elsewhere now, mostly to MIR team members
[15:29] <ginggs> vorlon: it's now in review by mir team
[15:29] <slyon> but won't make it before FF
[15:30] <vorlon> slyon: is the MIR team aiming to approve it after FF?
[15:30] <slyon> vorlon: yes. we might want to file a FFe for it then
[15:30] <bdmurray> update-notifier was my upload
[15:30] <vorlon> mutt is also blocked by MIR, looks like it's had server team review but I'm not sure where in the process this is currently
[15:31] <ginggs> i offered to file an FFe, but is it required?  lintian was upload before FF
[15:31] <vorlon> I would say no to an FFe for lintian, which is particularly a developer-oriented tool anyway
[15:31] <schopin> I thought FFe weren't necessary for MIRs?
[15:31] <slyon> vorlon: mutt was stuck on security review. but got a recent update, so we might be able to unblock it
[15:32] <ginggs> vorlon: no as in not needed, or no as in no exception granted?
[15:32] <vorlon> ginggs: no as in not needed
[15:32] <ginggs> vorlon: thanks for clarifying
[15:32] <vorlon> schopin: if the MIR is to enable turning on a new feature that hasn't been turned on yet, it's arguable there should be a FF.  But we also generally for things that have been uploaded to -proposed before FF don't require MIR
[15:33] <slyon> for mutt, looks like we're ready to promote gsasl & libntlm, but might still need to drop/revert the libgssglue dependency to get it resolved
[15:33] <vorlon> gcc-12 being built on arm64 is holding a few things up (gcc-12-cross -> gcc-defaults), but the build is in progress, so assuming this will shake out
[15:34] <vorlon> rustc is just waiting for glibc
[15:34] <vorlon> libuv1: that was mentioned in the weekly report
[15:34] <vorlon> enr0n: will you be able to follow through on this?
[15:35] <enr0n> vorlon: Yes I am working on it today. Bug 1987558 has a patch for siridb-server
[15:35] <vorlon> libuv1: enr0n:
[15:35] <vorlon> thanks
[15:35] <enr0n> no problem
[15:35] <vorlon> psycopg2: was assigned to bdrung but it appears he went on PTO before getting to it so we need a new volunteer
[15:36] <vorlon> alexghiti: can you take this?
[15:36] <alexghiti> Ack
[15:36] <vorlon> thanks
[15:37] <vorlon> netkit-telnetd: MIR team seems to be suggestion demotion, which I'm unsure about
[15:37] <slyon> vorlon: It was not in main before AFAICT
[15:37] <vorlon> telnet is present as a Recommends: of ubuntu-standard
[15:37] <slyon> (like before the rename)
[15:38] <vorlon> and it is a common network debugging tool
[15:38] <slyon> also IIUC it is about to be dropped from ubuntu-standard (ubuntu-meta)
[15:38] <vorlon> why do you say that?
[15:38] <vorlon> dropping it from standard is the sort of thing that should be discussed on ubuntu-devel, I haven't seen discussion there
[15:38] <slyon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plzip/+bug/1980663/comments/6
[15:39] <slyon> that's what jbicha suggested
[15:39] <vorlon> ok I think he meant telnetd
[15:39] <vorlon> probably correct
[15:39] <vorlon> I'll take this one to follow through on
[15:39] <slyon> thanks
[15:39] <vorlon> lbnss-db, just waiting on glibc
[15:39] <vorlon> python-secretstorage: juliank can you take this?
[15:40] <vorlon> git: I merged it, I'll follow through
[15:40] <juliank> ack
[15:40] <vorlon> isc-dhcp: waiting for glibc
[15:40] <vorlon> netplan.io: slyon can you take?
[15:40] <slyon> yes
[15:41] <slyon> (already resolved with upstream NM, actually)
[15:41] <vorlon> perfect, thanks
[15:42] <vorlon> slyon: so I just looked, and the issue is that the telnet binary has moved from netkit-telnet source to inetutils source
[15:42] <vorlon> lsb: my merge, I'll take it
[15:42] <vorlon> openssh: my merge, I'll take that too
[15:42] <slyon> vorlon: yes, it has been discussed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plzip/+bug/1980663/comments/4
[15:43] <slyon> there's some more related comments on that bug report
[15:45] <vorlon> slyon: right. telnetd should clearly be demoted, netkit-telnet does not satisfy the existing Recommends on telnet, we should reintroduce telnet as a transitional package otherwise users don't get netkit-telnet on upgrade
[15:45] <vorlon> I'll follow through on that then
[15:46] <vorlon> update-motd vs update-notifier: dbungert ?
[15:46] <dbungert> vorlon: ack
[15:47] <vorlon> glibc: I continue playing whack-a-mole with autopkgtest false positives, and I believe mwhudson and schopin are still on top of the true positives
[15:47]  * schopin nods
[15:47] <vorlon> cross-toolchain-base vs kmod: ginggs ?
[15:47] <ginggs> vorlon: ack
[15:47] <vorlon> diffutils just waiting for autopkgtest results
[15:48] <ginggs> and it's my merge
[15:48] <ginggs> err, sync
[15:48] <ginggs> but i'll keep an eye on diffutils
[15:48] <vorlon> ginggs: actually there are a number of kmod-related autopkgtest failures, can you take the lot please?
[15:49] <ginggs> vorlon: sure
[15:49] <vorlon> ginggs: and cross-toolchain-base is also blocking procps, so if you could look at that at the same time?
[15:49] <slyon> there's an update excuse bug about kmod: LP: #1987620 (it was my merge)
[15:49] <vorlon> likely a common failure cause
[15:50] <ginggs> vorlon: yes, i'll take procps as well
[15:50] <vorlon> and livecd-rootfs is an unrelated blocker for procps; bdmurray can you look at this?
[15:50] <vorlon> and then that's the list for today
[15:50] <juliank> #topic AOB
[15:53] <bdmurray> I'm out tomorrow
[15:54] <juliank> Anyone else out?
[15:56] <juliank> Most already are :)
[15:58] <juliank> #endmeeting
[15:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:58:06 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-08-25-15.00.moin.txt