| WaV | I don't know what you get into on a daily basis, but realistically, putting this much thought into security is a wasted effort for a home user. | 00:00 |
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| kucklehead | Did you try arch linux and or gentoo? | 00:00 |
| lubuntu | yes | 00:00 |
| lubuntu | but they use diferent package management, so most software instructions, do not work for them | 00:00 |
| lubuntu | i like the deb, atp thing | 00:00 |
| WaV | sudo apt install ufw && sudo ufw enable | 00:01 |
| WaV | done | 00:01 |
| lubuntu | prefabily if they can be clicked and run | 00:01 |
| kucklehead | what about void linux | 00:03 |
| lubuntu | mostly i would just like to be sure what is the main defoult thing after UFW , that i should do, in case , i email from my public IP, and someone really skilled one assumes faultly that i have something important in my laptop, and i do not like Too complicated passwords as well, as i assume, they can not brute force as system lock up anyway after few wrong try es , and if they can not remote way log in, then there is no worry for that | 00:03 |
| lubuntu | anyway, | 00:03 |
| jhutchins | Wasn't SELinux originally a secure distro from the NSA? | 00:03 |
| lubuntu | Void linux i also try | 00:03 |
| lubuntu | SeLinux did not allow users to save things | 00:03 |
| sarnold | jhutchins: no | 00:04 |
| sarnold | jhutchins: selinux was always a port of the flask security framwork to linux, for use in any interested distro, or by someone who wanted it without distro support, etc | 00:04 |
| WaV | you are putting waaaay too much thought into it | 00:05 |
| jhutchins | lubuntu: You're wrong about that. | 00:05 |
| jhutchins | lubuntu: An selinux enabled system can work exactly like any other linux system. | 00:05 |
| lubuntu | the kadoshy linux was nearest i liked, it is based on ubuntu 18, but it also had complicated the things and for some reason on my this Lenovo laptop it did not run well, but on the older basic ThinkPad T series, it run well, i think the lenovo B575e maybe also has some issues it self related to hardware, as most things run better on old thinkbad T520 | 00:06 |
| sarnold | 'thinkbad' :D | 00:07 |
| lubuntu | jhutchin: thanks for that, i must re-look it again, i thought it was only live system when i last time look in to it.. and they say it is not updated for long time... perhaps i remeber wrong , as i have not re-tested it in past years, remeber from old time | 00:07 |
| jhutchins | Torshamnsgatan | 00:09 |
| sarnold | https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-B575e.91444.0.html -> amd something or other low-end two-core 1.7 ghz processor, 4 gigs of ddr3, spinning rust hard drive. t520 --> https://www.storagereview.com/review/lenovo-thinkpad-t520-review dual core intel 2.6 ghz, 8 gigs memory, ssd. I'm not shocked the t520 was vastly nicer. | 00:10 |
| davros | i wish ubuntu kept globalmenu | 00:10 |
| lubuntu | ohh.. so the T520 is actually literally better ? | 00:10 |
| sarnold | that intel processor is around seven times faster on a synthetic benchmark https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-2540M-vs-AMD-E2-1800-APU/812vs251 | 00:11 |
| sarnold | the t520 is a vastly nicer computer | 00:11 |
| lubuntu | omg | 00:11 |
| sarnold | davros: *maybe* the HUD still lives on in https://unity.ubuntuunity.org/blog/unity-7.6/ ? | 00:11 |
| davros | i've switched back to xfce, i think i prefer it.. i saw it took too many steps to get globalmenu back in gnome shell | 00:13 |
| davros | i know some linux DE's hark back to the days when focus-follows mouse was popular but this clashes with popup dialogues | 00:13 |
| sarnold | sloppy focus best focus | 00:14 |
| davros | i actualyl like focus follows mouse in principle but .. (whats sloppy? -focus follows mouse with delay?) | 00:14 |
| sarnold | I think the main feature is that it won't take focus away from a window if you put the mouse pointer over the root window, heh | 00:14 |
| sarnold | (I use i3wm, there's almost never a background to see :) | 00:15 |
| lubuntu | sarnold i am pretty shocked about that finding still, we was wondering here what was better to give away from one of the 2.. as i prefered the old T as it had still the T420 feelings, and screen can bent and screen light etc... and i thought it was just coinsidence it felt always better so much , as ... it is much older laptop.. | 00:15 |
| sarnold | lubuntu: well.. if you like the person you're giving the machine to, the t520 is a nicer gift :) | 00:16 |
| lubuntu | there is one special think in Mate desktop i wish i would know how to integrate in to lxde or lxqt, the "hide" buttons on left and right | 00:16 |
| lubuntu | on panels | 00:16 |
| lubuntu | it is not first seen but it can be activated on right click ,and adding some things there like internet speed measurment and few other toys is also good , dictionary etc. as most other things, i think the mate is still nice but i can not see the serious differnece. | 00:18 |
| lubuntu | would like also the simple option "open as root" | 00:18 |
| lubuntu | i think something like that on lubuntu/ubuntu 22 was also, as i saw from some screens | 00:18 |
| lubuntu | but for work when i need full screens, and information bars on , and off static way, the hide buttons left and right menu, | 00:19 |
| lubuntu | is them possible in future to have in LX envorements or is it something so different that these envorements can not ? | 00:19 |
| lubuntu | i also can not find where is quazel log saving feature ... its nice irc client but..hmm.. | 00:22 |
| lubuntu | was anyone able to find some good elementary hardening quide for lubuntu (ubuntu i quess as well, works), prefabily for slightly paranoid person | 00:23 |
| sarnold | lubuntu: I remember thinking this guide was pretty good https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/collection/device-security-guidance/platform-guides/ubuntu-lts | 00:25 |
| kucklehead | sarnold, What's wrong with the site? | 00:26 |
| lubuntu | sounds beautiful from source for NCSC, thanks! | 00:27 |
| lubuntu | also one another question, on live system should i first update the system, will the update also aply to install then ? | 00:35 |
| lubuntu | mecanismus is hardcore video, a bit scary | 00:37 |
| enigma9o7[m] | No, do not update live before installation. You will be prompted during installation if you'd like to download updates, so tick that box later. | 00:37 |
| lubuntu | does installng the user envorements like Mate, can it also lover the security ? | 00:38 |
| enigma9o7[m] | MATE is one of the biggest targets in the hacking community for sure. | 00:38 |
| lubuntu | or does the chrome browser, for example make system more unsecure, as it for example asks on startup the keyring password, that is same as system, and why it has to be entered all the time... it kind of seems more deeply in "the system" and as it would have more access to a syastem then ordinary browser | 00:39 |
| lubuntu | omg, mate is ? Oh.. i did make blind quess, had no idea, .. so just for few simple addons this trade is not good one... | 00:40 |
| lubuntu | if i only would know is it possible to make "hide toolbar" right and left slide away buttons on other user envorements | 00:40 |
| lubuntu | but i guess all browsers that are functional are now based on chrome and firefox, | 00:42 |
| lubuntu | and firefox is told they have to be moving more in direction of google, | 00:42 |
| lubuntu | so who knows what future brings.. i was fan of old opera browser motor, it felt kind of more secure even if some things in web did not work so well | 00:42 |
| lubuntu | the Ubuntu software is not some way "bent under" Google ? | 00:52 |
| lubuntu | or related to it ? | 00:52 |
| lubuntu | As even twiter, they buy the under some other tech, company and people that twiter uses for their services, so they did not have to buy a twiter, to get some kind of control over it , and extra benefit no media noticing and price is chaper like this.. | 00:52 |
| lubuntu | but in Ubuntu development, there is no "google hand" , or would that be technically not possible to know, as main developers personal likeness can be many ways.. ? | 00:52 |
| lubuntu | I remeber it was shout african non profit novel guy at first, related to ubuntu, but i am not really sure what is now, ubuntu gets so much perhaps undeserved hate around the internet, but it might be some weird jealousy, | 00:52 |
| lubuntu | as it can not be much of competitors as it would not make much sense as there is not a lot of sales wars between Linuxes i guess, its more about the professionals, and they can use any linux they see fit for client, | 00:52 |
| lubuntu | thanks | 00:53 |
| sarnold | btw that's just an automated anti-abuse tool :) | 00:54 |
| lubuntu | np | 00:57 |
| lubuntu | i still can not see where is Quassel log saving feature, must be looking some wrong place | 00:58 |
| sarnold | I've never used quassel but I had the impression they used a database | 00:59 |
| Disconsented | They do | 00:59 |
| sarnold | maybe it's just got a "how many messages to retain" or "how long to retain messages" setting | 00:59 |
| Disconsented | Its an sqlite database by default | 00:59 |
| sarnold | ahhhhh. I thought it was pgsql. sqlite probably makes more sense. | 01:00 |
| Disconsented | It also supports postgres | 01:00 |
| Disconsented | There's no limit to the amount of messages stored, it needs to be cleared manually | 01:00 |
| sarnold | ha | 01:01 |
| sarnold | well, it's not like they're huge.. | 01:01 |
| lubuntu | so they figured out how to make most simple irc log saving that has been plain text siple from 90 s , in to some kind of datbase, in some place, maybe | 01:07 |
| lubuntu | why people do these kind of things | 01:07 |
| lubuntu | and is not like the datbase, is findable from gui | 01:08 |
| sarnold | lubuntu: probably so they could have instant searches | 01:09 |
| lubuntu | they ? | 01:10 |
| lubuntu | in my hd ? | 01:10 |
| lubuntu | i mean the text file inside search in linux is simple enougth .. or was it not.. | 01:10 |
| sarnold | "they" --> the quassel developers | 01:10 |
| sarnold | it's not bad when you've only got a few hundred megabytes | 01:11 |
| sarnold | but if you're around for decades, in hundreds of channels, it adds up | 01:11 |
| sarnold | I've got a zfs system that I use to search ubuntu source code; it's got something like 200 million files on it. searching through that takes an ETERNITY even with ripgrep. | 01:12 |
| lubuntu | i see.. but... yes true, but can there not be 2 simple options, "save logs in txt file, 2. save logs in database" and it would be little effort, as text file saving is for mayority, | 01:16 |
| lubuntu | and ordinary mirc was able to split log files after a network / time / syze / manually.. | 01:16 |
| lubuntu | but i yes have not figured how is needed to look the data other ways.. more then that. | 01:16 |
| lubuntu | So it is like for industrial use for massive logging of massive amount of channels :p | 01:16 |
| lubuntu | But still.. what about the comon folk, can they not at least point in direction in guy where is the log, and what daTA save in to log what not.. and in what format.. | 01:16 |
| lubuntu | well i guess it saves all that is possible and if it would have internal datbase log explorer, then it would make good sense .. but then again, if they do it for them self not for general public, i guess anyone has right to program what they want for them self | 01:16 |
| === Polo is now known as Money | ||
| oerheks | 31 years ago that Linus Torvalds ... | 01:34 |
| === Money is now known as Polo | ||
| === Polo is now known as Money | ||
| === Money is now known as Polo | ||
| jhutchins | One score and eleven years ... | 01:43 |
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| maailm | greetings again | 01:57 |
| === maailm is now known as Lubuntu | ||
| === Lubuntu is now known as lubuntu | ||
| === lubuntu is now known as Maailm | ||
| Maailm | oh, somone registered it already... the unexpected restard kind of made me lose the text i had before | 01:58 |
| === Maailm is now known as Lubuntu22 | ||
| Lubuntu22 | anyway, strange thing, i installed the LXDE, on tu fresh lubuntu 22. and when logging in, it has no browser under internet, | 02:01 |
| Lubuntu22 | and has some Debinan menu | 02:01 |
| Lubuntu22 | and like 3 terminals | 02:01 |
| Lubuntu22 | qterminal, LX temrinal, Q terminal another version, ..but no browser under internet menu, perhaps its simple bug someone can forward to apropriate place | 02:03 |
| sarnold | https://lubuntu.me/jammy-1-released/ this says firefox should have been installed via a snap; try 'snap info firefox' and see if it's installed? | 02:05 |
| Lubuntu22 | the dark skin on lxde also looks too "skinned" and not so professional by it self, debinal menu is kind of weird one whit alll sub menus to hardly used things as welll, i mean, the prof who use them they for sure know how to install these package.. but for most, is not so usable . Or maybe they are but by the name these softwares look too geeky | 02:06 |
| Lubuntu22 | i paste it to your priv or here on channel, is banning when i paste ? | 02:07 |
| Lubuntu22 | installed: 104.0-3 / snap-id: 3wdHCAVyZEmYsCMFDE9qt92UV8rC8Wdk | 02:08 |
| sarnold | alright, it's installed.. try a bare 'firefox' at the shell, see if that starts it | 02:10 |
| sarnold | maybe you could pin it to the menu once it's running? | 02:10 |
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| Lubuntu22 | jup whit some errors: TTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment. | 02:11 |
| Lubuntu22 | Missing chrome or resource URL: resource://gre/modules/UpdateListener.sys.mjs | 02:11 |
| jhutchins | !paste | 02:11 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 02:11 |
| Lubuntu22 | GOod, thanks | 02:12 |
| jhutchins | !pastebinit | 02:13 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit | 02:13 |
| jhutchins | (Since you don't have a browser.) | 02:13 |
| sarnold | hah, good point. I'm not sure pastebinit still works though :( | 02:14 |
| Lubuntu22 | actually browser is on the other envorement, the original one, but on the LXDE one does not have | 02:14 |
| Lubuntu22 | but yes, its good option | 02:14 |
| enigma9o7[m] | It's installed (in lxqt) but not lxde? that's weird. it should be there too. they both reference the same desktop files | 02:15 |
| jhutchins | sarnold: There's an incantation where you pipe it to netcat directed to a paste server, I'll have to start building a FAQ and write that down next time I see it. | 02:15 |
| Lubuntu22 | i just wonder if that can be my HW related error as its defult install or can be something else, | 02:15 |
| Lubuntu22 | yes, in menu there is 4 otions on user envorements, openbox and just "lubuntu" also | 02:15 |
| Lubuntu22 | hey was my username before lubuntu ? Here. hour ago. As when i look: [NickServ] User reg. : May 24 00:59:30 2021 +0000 (1y 13w 2d ago) ... so it could not have been.. | 02:17 |
| Lubuntu22 | is there some other info i can give ? Oh, one other thing, i THINK i use the daily build of 24 of august, this might be ? | 02:18 |
| Lubuntu22 | what is best command to give full envorement info | 02:18 |
| Lubuntu22 | and is the "debian" menu normal in there ? Full of all kind of verid tools. I mean is it something that comes whit LXDE defoult ? have not seen it before there like this | 02:19 |
| sarnold | jhutchins: | nc termbin.com 9999 | 02:21 |
| jhutchins | Noted. | 02:25 |
| Guest89 | 你好 | 02:32 |
| enigma9o7[m] | nihao | 02:32 |
| Guest89 | 我安装Ubuntuserver20.0.4遇到了一些问题，想请教一下 | 02:32 |
| oerheks | !cn | 02:33 |
| ubottu | 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw | 02:33 |
| oerheks | we can only read english. | 02:34 |
| Lubuntu22 | argh it asks to log in, userenv https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wm7Bj82w8j/ , uname -a https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3WSRZ8krQv/, cat /proc/version | pastebinit https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mymKV7HZsj/ ... cat /etc/*-release | uniq -u | pastebinit https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fdzv6j8PFM/ | 02:34 |
| Lubuntu22 | any use of that ? | 02:34 |
| Guest89 | I have encountered some problems when installing Ubuntu userver 20.0.4. I would like to ask for advice | 02:35 |
| Bashing-om | Guest89: Explain the issue and someone here might know :D | 02:36 |
| Guest8996 | hello | 02:40 |
| Guest8996 | I encountered a problem installing Ubuntu 20.04.4 | 02:41 |
| Guest8996 | The error prompt is as follows: keyerror: 'ID' | 02:41 |
| Guest110 | hello | 02:43 |
| Guest110 | I have a question to ask | 02:44 |
| Guest110 | I encountered a problem installing Ubuntu 20.04.4 | 02:44 |
| Guest110 | The error prompt is as follows: keyerror: 'ID' | 02:44 |
| Guest110 | Page prompt: an error occurred during installation | 02:45 |
| sarnold | btw you have to stick around long enough for someone to respond | 02:48 |
| oerheks | !md5sum | 02:49 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which a checksum is provided), see https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu | 02:49 |
| Lubuntu22 | enigma9o7[m] is there some helful files i can send to You so You can forward to bug team ? | 02:53 |
| CarlFK | systemctl disable getty@ttyS0 - what file(s) does that touch? | 03:35 |
| CarlFK | so that I can modify them by hand, not by running that command | 03:35 |
| alkisg | CarlFK: ls -lha /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service | 04:18 |
| alkisg | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Nov 20 2021 /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service -> /lib/systemd/system/getty@.service | 04:18 |
| alkisg | ...why would you want to run it by hand, instead of via that command? | 04:18 |
| CarlFK | the box running it does not have rw access to the media, the writes go to a ramdisk | 04:19 |
| alkisg | And? | 04:19 |
| alkisg | At any point that you can run it manually, you can run it via command, even if it's in a chroot, it has options for that | 04:19 |
| alkisg | systemctl disable --quiet --root=/path... --no-reload ... | 04:20 |
| CarlFK | but it wont persist over a reboot | 04:40 |
| alkisg | Running it manually won't persist either | 04:46 |
| arraybolt3[m] | alkisg: I think the point is that he can do it manually on whatever data he makes the boot media from. | 04:46 |
| alkisg | arraybolt3: he can do that with root= | 04:46 |
| alkisg | He doesn't need to use the chroot command or even have the same arch as the "data directory"; systemctl will happily work on that dir without having to know what exactly it does | 04:47 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Oh cool! CarlFK ^ | 04:48 |
| CarlFK | i've hear do that. sounds useful | 04:48 |
| === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba | ||
| deepak | How can I manage my ubuntu system via creating a master-server and connect client-Ubuntu PC's to that Master server and manage them like in windows we can manage using Windows server ADDS? | 06:32 |
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| ice9 | why it's refusing to upgrade theses packages? https://bpa.st/V34Q | 08:07 |
| EriC^^ | ice9: does apt full-upgrade help? | 08:08 |
| ice9 | EriC^^, no | 08:08 |
| === david_ is now known as Guest5070 | ||
| hermano | After re-installing my machine to Ubuntu 22.04, I have a situation where atom crashes each time I try to add a project folder. | 08:18 |
| EriC^^ | hermano: try to start the application from the terminal, it might show more info | 08:20 |
| hermano | EriC^^, Terminal is kept blank after the crash. | 08:22 |
| sav | My WiFi networks that are protected by a password do not | 08:22 |
| sav | reconnect automatically on boot if I choose to save their | 08:22 |
| sav | password only for the current user. Can anyone help me resolve | 08:22 |
| sav | My WiFi networks that are protected by a password do not reconnect | 08:23 |
| sav | automatically on boot if I choose to save their password only for the | 08:23 |
| sav | current user. Can anyone help me resolve this | 08:23 |
| sav | Sorry for how my message turned out, it wasn't supposed to have linebreaks | 08:24 |
| murmel | ice9: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html | 08:26 |
| murmel | ice9: if you want to upgrade you need to apt upgrade <package> | 08:26 |
| sujudaw | Hi | 08:30 |
| sujudaw | i'm new user Linux | 08:31 |
| murmel | hi sujudaw | 08:31 |
| === Guest4394 is now known as Polo | ||
| sujudaw | Can I ask for help about linux here | 08:32 |
| orca_ | !ask | 08:33 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 08:33 |
| orca_ | yes you can | 08:33 |
| azoo | Hey I don't know what to google. I have a dell r710 with 4 ethernet port running ubuntu server. I want to use a port to add a connection to another access point located else where. Is this possible? What is this called? | 08:49 |
| ravage | a cross connect? | 08:50 |
| murmel | azoo: what should the ubuntu server do with that connection? | 08:51 |
| azoo | murmel I'd like it to work like ISP Router-----ubuntu server-----access point | 08:52 |
| azoo | only act as a switch i think | 08:53 |
| ravage | a switch may be a bridge in that case | 08:54 |
| ravage | if you do not neet a seperated network for those on the access point | 08:54 |
| ravage | but then you could just connect the access point to your ISP router | 08:55 |
| azoo | Correct I want everything on the same network able to see each other | 08:55 |
| ravage | you can create a bridge on your ubuntu server that includes both network interfaces | 08:55 |
| ravage | that should do what you want | 08:56 |
| azoo | Ok thank you | 08:56 |
| azoo | Ok thank you. Have a good day chat. | 08:57 |
| murmel | azoo: https://netplan.io/examples#configuring-network-bridges | 08:57 |
| murmel | lol | 08:57 |
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| imi | hi, I have a realtek usbc ethernet adapter, and it needs to be unplugged and replugged every time I reboot from windows | 09:41 |
| tomreyn | imi: try disabling fastboot in windows | 09:46 |
| === Kholuendara92 is now known as Kholuendara9 | ||
| imi | tomreyn: how do I do that? wouldn't it make boot 10 times slower? | 09:50 |
| orca_ | wouldnt fastboot be more towards not being able to access the windows hard drive than a usb adapter for ethernet | 10:03 |
| lotuspsychje | orca_: fastboot has some influence on several hardware on ubuntu, like network cards or graphics card, etc | 10:06 |
| orca_ | oh ok i didnt know | 10:07 |
| orca_ | do you mean secure boot or fastboot? | 10:08 |
| lotuspsychje | secureboot | 10:08 |
| orca_ | ok | 10:08 |
| imi | ok so should I disable fastboot or secureboot? | 10:37 |
| murmel | imi: fastboot can help, secure boot is okay for testing if it works after that | 10:38 |
| arraybolt3 | imi: Pretty sure you're supposed to disable fastboot. | 10:38 |
| murmel | imi: if you disable fastboot, you need to also disable fastboot in windows (as windows doesn't shut down anymore with fastboot enabled) | 10:39 |
| tomreyn | imi: when you dual-boot windows with anything else, disabling fastboot in windows is much recommendable.windows does not shut down cleany with it. | 10:50 |
| n0fun_ | I have pip 9.0.1 from /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages (python 3.6) and it trows "SyntaxError: future feature annotations is not defined". Idea idea what to do about that? | 10:51 |
| n0fun_ | (I have ubuntu 18.04) | 10:51 |
| tomreyn | imi: in my experience, this can also hardware not to shut down cleanly, so i'm recommending even more that you disable this windows "feature". | 10:52 |
| phinxy | Internal server error on ubuntu package search? | 11:06 |
| phinxy | https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wxwidgets&searchon=names&suite=jammy§ion=all | 11:06 |
| phinxy | now it worked! | 11:06 |
| tomreyn | phinxy: it happens all the time, just shift-reload. | 11:34 |
| etronik | hey all, just upgraded from 20.04 LTS to 22.04 LTS and having issues with ibus-daemon making high CPU use and freezing keyboard input... twice happened within last 30 minutes - is this known issue ? or with specific apps ? TIA | 11:36 |
| tomreyn | etronik: i haven't read about this, yet, but that doesn't mean much. you could check launchpad.net for existing bug reports against ibus for your ubuntu release. | 11:37 |
| tomreyn | etronik: you could also use apt to ensure your system is fully updated and check your logs for any related events. | 11:38 |
| etronik | suffering from it yet again.... 22.'4 LTS is turning up un-usable for me.... | 11:38 |
| tomreyn | if you need more information on these, just ask | 11:38 |
| etronik | huuuge lag while typing | 11:38 |
| ravage | etronik, in all applications? i only have that input lag on some electron apps in wayland | 11:39 |
| ravage | maybe switching to Xorg will solve it for your too | 11:39 |
| etronik | yup in all | 11:39 |
| etronik | shows up after a few minutes after reboot | 11:40 |
| etronik | bte using kde | 11:40 |
| ravage | oh ok | 11:40 |
| ravage | no idea then really :) | 11:40 |
| etronik | rebooting bbl - this is awful | 11:41 |
| ogra | etronik, try with a freshly created test user ... it might be some old leftover configuration your user carried along after the upgrade ... | 11:42 |
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| === westor is now known as Guest9517 | ||
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:58 |
| mtlife | ravage: since you've been trying to help and see if the rdp works on gnome3, i thought I'd come back to tell you i've found a solution by coincidence. My gnome kept crashing randomly when screen goes blank, most of the time only after a while of black when I get coffee or lunch. Not a big deal, didn't occur that often. But I thought let me check my extensions and disable most of them that I don't use. Installing extension app for gnome, because the | 12:05 |
| mtlife | 20.04 version got removed on upgrade apparently. New version didn't start, looking for errors came across this: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/4881 ; which pointed to specific nvidia-prime errors here: https://github.com/NVIDIA/egl-wayland/issues/41 , added the ENV variable to my .profile and suddenly my RDP works, and as another bonus WEBRTC screensharing in Chrome works now too (before only in firefox). | 12:05 |
| ubottu | Issue 4881 in GNOME/gtk "gnome-extensions-app crashes on Wayland" [Closed] | 12:05 |
| ubottu | Issue 41 in NVIDIA/egl-wayland "[BUG] Ver 1.1.8-1 breaks some GTK3/4 apps (Gnome ToDo, Gnome Maps, Cheese) - On Hybrid Graphics configurations" [Open] | 12:05 |
| ravage | Oh that's great . Thanks for the update :) | 12:06 |
| Guest74 | Can someone assist me please , with Ubuntu 22.04 , with MATE I only have Powersave and High Performance modes , with GNOME I have Balanced | 12:08 |
| mtlife | np | 12:08 |
| Guest74 | How could I possibly get the balanced in MATE? , powersave throttles the laptop makes it look sluggish , high performance drains the battery and heats it | 12:09 |
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| mahmoud | showtime | 12:25 |
| Guest74 | Please can someone help me with my issue with no balanced powermode in MATE ? | 12:33 |
| tomreyn | Guest74: hi, just describe the issue, and whoever knows how to do it will tlel (if anyone) | 12:35 |
| Guest74 | sorry i lost connection and came back | 12:35 |
| Guest74 | in MATE I only have Powersaving and High performance , with KDE and GNOME I can get balanced | 12:36 |
| Guest74 | Powersaving is causing the laptop to be sluggish , and High performance will make it run more hot and drains battery faster | 12:36 |
| Guest74 | It is 22.04.1 LTS | 12:37 |
| Guest74 | Intel® Core™ i5-10210U CPU | 12:37 |
| tomreyn | is it full yupdated? | 12:37 |
| Guest74 | yes | 12:38 |
| Guest74 | also i had a thinkpad before with 20.04 lts mate for several years , never had the balanced option | 12:39 |
| tomreyn | i think it is normal not to have 'balanced' on a laptop | 12:41 |
| tomreyn | cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors | 12:41 |
| Guest74 | but others like default ubuntu and kde ubuntu brings it | 12:41 |
| tomreyn | if you run this it should tell you which modes your cpu supports | 12:41 |
| Guest74 | i like the powersaving one , it can keep the battery for long time , but it throttles the Mhz , sometimes few tabs of firefox will make it tired | 12:42 |
| Guest74 | tomreyn, you are right it shows only high performance and power-saving , but other desktops of ubuntu brings the balanced mode | 12:42 |
| Guest74 | but my problem is just I like MATE | 12:42 |
| tomreyn | so you're saying when you run ubuntu on *this* laptop it will add a *third* option, "balanced"? | 12:43 |
| tomreyn | or could it be that it's just named differently there, using "blanced" rtaher than "powersave"? | 12:44 |
| Guest74 | Same installation of MATE , I just go to terminal and download Ubuntu-desktop or KDE desktop , I restart , login into that desktop whether it's KDE or Ubuntu , I get balanced power option | 12:44 |
| Guest74 | They have 3 options | 12:44 |
| Guest74 | Powersave | 12:44 |
| Guest74 | Balanced | 12:44 |
| Guest74 | High performance | 12:45 |
| tomreyn | ok, then i'm afraid i don't know how you could switch to that | 12:45 |
| Guest74 | like in this photo I can see https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/power-options-in-ubuntu-22.04.jpg | 12:45 |
| Guest74 | but in mate I can see only powersave and high performance | 12:46 |
| Guest74 | the image is from this article don't worry -https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/installed-ubuntu-22-04-do-these-things-next | 12:46 |
| tomreyn | i think there's an ubuntu mate channel (maybe not very busy) and there is probably also a forum. | 12:47 |
| tomreyn | https://ubuntu-mate.org/support/ | 12:47 |
| tomreyn | or you can /join #ubuntu-mate | 12:48 |
| Guest74 | Will try there, thankyou | 12:49 |
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| maum | how can I check unknown file format? file -c file returns contoffsettypeopcodemaskvaluedesc | 13:01 |
| EriC^^ | maum: that's literally what it returns? | 13:02 |
| maum | ? | 13:03 |
| EriC^^ | maum: try "file /path/to/file" | 13:04 |
| maum | EriC^^: it returns file : data | 13:05 |
| EriC^^ | maum: if you want you could try "hexdump -C /path/to/file | head -2" and try pasting the first dozen hex in google and see what the header is | 13:06 |
| tomreyn | that's if there is a header | 13:06 |
| tomreyn | maum: what do you know about this file? | 13:07 |
| maum | 0000000 0b fe e4 45 50 36 72 85 16 37 ec 74 f0 6d e7 3b |...EP6r..7.t.m.;| | 13:08 |
| maum | like this | 13:08 |
| maum | I have no idea what file is | 13:09 |
| tomreyn | how did it get there, though, which directory is it in, did you place it there, did someone else you know? | 13:10 |
| tomreyn | and which ubuntu version are you running? | 13:10 |
| EriC^^ | maum: doesnt look like anything | 13:14 |
| mguy | What's the name of it | 13:25 |
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| vai | Hi all, upgraded successfully to 22.x. | 13:54 |
| === vai is now known as JerOfPanic | ||
| m_tadeu | hi...I have a ubuntu with a vpn connection. What can I do to access the vpn from a second ubuntu? | 14:07 |
| coconut | m_tadeu, ask your vpn if you can access their vpn from multiple devices and install their app? | 14:10 |
| m_tadeu | I only want 1 connection and a single place to login...and I'm using openconnect on the 1st machine | 14:14 |
| ravage | get a cheap mini computer or router that can provide the VPN for all devices | 14:16 |
| m_tadeu | ravage: that was my first idea...but I have the same problem...how to connect the 2nd computer to the 1st with the connection? | 14:17 |
| ravage | you connect both to that device | 14:17 |
| ravage | they usually include a 4 or 5 port switch | 14:18 |
| ravage | https://www.amazon.com/s?k=vpn+router | 14:18 |
| ravage | there are also more generic devices from microtik | 14:19 |
| coconut | m_tadeu, use a router/access-point and let that handle the connections | 14:19 |
| mybalzitch | why does firefox keep saying the snap needs updating, but snap refresh says there's nothing to update | 14:23 |
| m_tadeu | there must be a way to share a connection without buying a new router | 14:23 |
| ravage | mybalzitch, that notification is from before the update process then i guess | 14:23 |
| ravage | m_tadeu, sure. read up on routing with linux | 14:23 |
| etronik | I believe Chrome browser is causing this ibus issue | 14:23 |
| ravage | m_tadeu, you need at least 2 network interfaces on the first computer | 14:24 |
| etronik | then... as soon as I go the the ibus indicator panel (thiny with language selection) and select restart - the panel doesn't restart but issue goes away,,, | 14:24 |
| etronik | the panael indicator also goes away... but input on some system windows gets hampered a lot | 14:25 |
| m_tadeu | ravage, coconut: that seems the way to go....I'll look into it...thanks | 14:25 |
| stevenm__ | On 18.04 there was a reason why swap had to be a partition (and not a file) but could be a LVM volume in a LUKS encrypted container... and still preserve the ability to enter hibernation. | 14:29 |
| stevenm__ | For 22.04 is it possible now to have a swap file (not a partition) on an ext4 (mount as /) filesystem that is in a LVM2 / LUKS2 environment... and still have hibernation? | 14:30 |
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| Guest64 | Hi. What kernel argument do I need in PXE to call an "auto install" config file? I have one hosted at some url | 15:06 |
| gpettey | Is there anywhere the "root URL" can be configured for PPAs, so that add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa would go to e.g. mydomain.com/caching-proxy-for-ppas/ instead of ppa.launchpad.net/? | 15:07 |
| rapha | hi all | 15:28 |
| rapha | i' | 15:28 |
| bittin | hi | 15:28 |
| rapha | m trying to use one of these pre-made ubuntu cloud images with qemu | 15:28 |
| rapha | but it's apparently not bootable | 15:28 |
| rapha | how are these intended to be used? | 15:29 |
| rapha | fwiw, it does include 3 partitions, 1 Linux filesystem, 1 BIOS boot, 1 EFI System, according to fdisk, the contents of the 1st and 3rd of which look good and the 2nd of which is not mountable. | 15:32 |
| rapha | it's a gpt table, too | 15:36 |
| ravage | rapha: https://powersj.io/posts/ubuntu-qemu-cli/ is that helpful? | 15:36 |
| * rapha looks | 15:36 | |
| rapha | aha, it talks about a thing called SeaBIOS which the other tutorials haven't mentioned, might be on to something there ravage | 15:37 |
| rapha | ravage: "nothing to boot: no such file or directory" | 15:41 |
| rapha | oh!!! | 15:43 |
| rapha | ravage: thanks, it was my own fault apparently. | 15:43 |
| ravage | great | 15:44 |
| ravage | tested it here too and it boots just fine :) | 15:44 |
| rapha | tadaaaaa! | 15:46 |
| rapha | so the problem was | 15:46 |
| rapha | since the file extension was .img | 15:46 |
| rapha | i'd taken it for a raw image | 15:46 |
| rapha | and converted it to qcow2 using qemu-img convert | 15:46 |
| rapha | which broke it | 15:46 |
| rapha | just renaming it is all that needs to be done to prevent any such confusions | 15:47 |
| rapha | thanks again :) | 15:47 |
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| Diagon | 20.04 with zram ("COMPCACHE" via initramfs.conf) but no on-disk swap, upgraded to 22.04. | 16:23 |
| Diagon | Now neither zram, nor 22.04's zswap are running. How do I re-enable zram without stumbling on zswap? | 16:23 |
| etronik | Anybody here running chrome under Kubuntu having issues with system-wide lagging keyboard input almost to a freeze point ? | 16:36 |
| etronik | errm under 22.04 LTS | 16:36 |
| etronik | updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1248260 which is very very old thing | 16:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1248260 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-daemon hogging resources" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 16:39 |
| tomreyn | etronik: it'll be better to report a new bug than adding to one from 9 years ago. chances are it's a different bug. | 16:46 |
| tomreyn | !bug | etronik | 16:46 |
| ubottu | etronik: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 16:46 |
| ogra | etronik, did you try wat i suggested this morning ? | 16:49 |
| ogra | #*what | 16:49 |
| etronik | ogra, trying different user ? | 16:50 |
| ogra | yeah, creating a fresh user and test with that | 16:50 |
| ogra | to make sure you dont have old config around from prior the upgrade | 16:51 |
| etronik | not yet ogra - mostly because I'm in the middle of hectid workday, and identifying chrome as the triggering app | 16:51 |
| etronik | I'll check the url for reporting bugs though , thanks | 16:52 |
| wad | Using gedit, I went to select some text with my mouse, but there was already some text selected, and so instead of making a new selection, it moved the selected text. Drag-and-drop is enabled for text selections? Gross! :) Anyone know how to turn it off? | 16:53 |
| ogra | well, a bug wont help if there is some messy old config around ... i'd try the fresh user first before reporting something you mght need to close again | 16:53 |
| etronik | ufff no TLDR version ? ;-) | 16:53 |
| etronik | ogra, you're right, I'll check that later today after work stuff is done | 16:54 |
| Airwolf | Greetings. I've had ubuntu server 20.04 LTS installed for a while. The motherboard on that computer failed. I've replaced the hardware, so I can boot that machine now. What is likely to happen if I just reconnect the drives (1 OS drive and two others in a striped RAID array) Will it even boot? and what will likely be broken? I've placed the drives on the same SATA ports on the new motherboard that they were on the old one. | 17:48 |
| Airwolf | Greetings. I've had ubuntu server 20.04 LTS installed for a while. The motherboard on that computer failed. I've replaced the hardware, so I can boot that machine now. What is likely to happen if I just reconnect the drives (1 OS drive and two others in a striped RAID array) Will it even boot? and what will likely be broken? I've placed the drives on the same SATA ports on the new motherboard that they were on the old one. | 17:51 |
| tomreyn | your message reached us the first time you posted it | 17:51 |
| tomreyn | i'd think it should just work | 17:52 |
| Airwolf | Sorry, I was disconnected, didn't see what happened. | 17:52 |
| Airwolf | It is very important that I don't lose the data on that RAID array; due to health issues, I've been unable to back it up recently | 17:53 |
| tomreyn | sorry to hear this. my answer remains unchanged. | 17:54 |
| tomreyn | you could always image those drives if you wanted to prevent data loss | 17:55 |
| Airwolf | The OS drive is just a standard drive though, I can boot from a USB stick and copy /etc to someplace to recover the machine configuration, but I'm concerned that the RAID won't recover or be readable. | 17:56 |
| Guest92 | hey I installed openbox on 22.04 I'm getting screen tearing glitch minimise glitch | 18:01 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest92: can you screenshot those or vanish too fast? | 18:03 |
| tomreyn | Airwolf: i was assuming you were referring to a software raid, were you instead referring to an onboard physical raid? | 18:03 |
| Airwolf | No, just mdam | 18:04 |
| tomreyn | then i don't see why you'd expect it to break, unless you also expect data loss to already have happened. | 18:04 |
| Airwolf | Lat time I did an install, upgrading from an earlier version of 20.04, (long story) the installer picked up the array on it's own. I'm concerned that device names might be different on the new board; /dev/hdd (whatever) might have changed | 18:06 |
| Guest92 | ah it was no wallpaper | 18:07 |
| tomreyn | Airwolf: mdadm usually refers to the arrays by UUIDs which were generated when those were created and are stored in their metadata on the one hand, and in mdadm's configuration file /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf on the other hand. so no device paths should be involved there. | 18:08 |
| tomreyn | Airwolf: if the system hostname (which is also stored in array metadata) changed, that would prevent the arrays from being started automatically | 18:09 |
| tomreyn | but since you're just moving the OS disk, it probably won't change | 18:10 |
| tomreyn | Airwolf: if, however, you have file systems in e.g. /etc/fstab referred to using device paths rather than UUIDs, those may fail to mount. but that'd be after the mdadm arrays have been reassembled. | 18:11 |
| Airwolf | No, networking (aside from possible device names such as enp0s3) shouldn't have changed | 18:12 |
| tomreyn | i was meaning to refer to block device paths (other than for the system hostname, which is networking related) | 18:13 |
| Airwolf | Hmmm.. I should be able to boot it off a USB desktop stick, choose "try ubuntu", then mount the drive containing the OS and see what's that file looks like | 18:15 |
| blackhawk | i'm on ubuntu 16.04 with ESM. the sambashare was working fine but suddenly it's not working at all | 18:21 |
| Airwolf | Thanks for the help, tomreyn. I'm gonna go boot the thing off a stick and see what those files look like, see if it is by UUID. I presume I need to look at /etc/fstab & /etc/mdam/mdam.conf ? | 18:27 |
| Airwolf | And copy /etc out to someplace while I'm at it | 18:28 |
| Airwolf | blackhawk, I recall a similar issue with 16.04; windows machines couldn't connect to samba shares all of a sudden. I never did determine the cause for sure, but upgrading to a new version of ubuntu fixed it. I *think* it was due to changes made to Windows | 18:30 |
| blackhawk | let me update the packages and check | 18:30 |
| blackhawk | I couldn't get samba and windows to work without ESM but with ESM worked fine until now | 18:31 |
| blackhawk | i'm upgrading some security packages and lets hope for the best | 18:31 |
| Airwolf | I've never used ESM, I'm just a home user. No need for it | 18:32 |
| blackhawk | can i update all packages in 'sudo apt list --upgradable' at once ? | 18:33 |
| arraybolt3 | Is there a Bash wizard in here at the moment? I need to know a one-liner that will search a directory recursivly, looking inside all the files in every directory entered and seeing if their contents match a case-insensitive string. | 18:33 |
| arraybolt3 | (I just discovered I missed a file while building a very large debian/copyright file and I cannot remember where the missed file is, but I know it will contain "fontawesome" somewhere inside the file.) | 18:34 |
| Airwolf | AS far as I know, apt update and then apt upgrade will update everything, unless you've blocked a package from upgrades | 18:35 |
| Airwolf | Be back in a bit after I look at this mess I have. Thanks, tomreyn. | 18:36 |
| Diagon | Maybe I'm wrong ... Perhaps zram is running after my 20.04->22.04 upgrade. Can someone confirm? http://sprunge.us/jiu14I | 18:38 |
| arraybolt3 | OK nevermind, I managed to find the file manually. I'd still be interested in knowing the Bash trick for a recursive, case-insensitive file contents search, but it's no longer "aaaaa help me!". | 18:38 |
| Diagon | So do I need this on my kernel command line? zswap.enabled=0 | 18:39 |
| EriC^^ | arraybolt3: you could do grep -i -R "contents" /dir | 18:42 |
| arraybolt3 | EriC^^: Wha... OK, that was like three or four times less complicated than expected. Definitely going to file this away for future use. Thank you! | 18:43 |
| EriC^^ | arraybolt3: no problem :) | 18:43 |
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| blackhawk | should i move from 16.04 to newer versions ? | 18:45 |
| ogra | blackhawk, if you do not want to sign up for UbuntuAdvanced, you should, yes | 18:46 |
| ogra | err ... s/advanced/advantage/ | 18:47 |
| blackhawk | i have ubuntu advantage esm signed up | 18:50 |
| jhutchins | arraybolt3: ripgrep | 18:56 |
| jhutchins | blackhawk: The older software still works, but if it has any unfixed bugs or tricks to running it those get harder to find as the pool of people running it gets smaller and smaller. | 18:58 |
| explodes | For the new version of ubuntu, which version of the kernel is the default? | 18:58 |
| jhutchins | blackhawk: The people who remember any glitches in the upgrade process also tend to forget after a while and a few newer upgrades. | 18:58 |
| jhutchins | blackhawk: I find it a good practice to try to keep within a couple of LTS releases of current. | 18:59 |
| wad | Hey guys. Getting acquainted with my new Ubuntu desktop. One thing that I got used to doing on my mac what taking a screenshot of a portion of the screen, circling something in red with my mouse, and then pasting it into slack or whatever. | 19:12 |
| wad | *was | 19:12 |
| arraybolt3 | wad: Ubuntu will let you select a rectangular region to snip from. | 19:13 |
| wad | I can hit the PRTSCN button, and drag a box on the screen, then hit CTRL-C to copy it, and paste it into Slack, but I'm missing the "draw an arrow on it with red lines", part. | 19:13 |
| arraybolt3 | Yeah, I'm not sure if that feature exists by default, and now that Ubuntu uses Wayland, it might be hard for an external tool to do it for you (though if an external tool exists and you can boot into Xorg mode, that might do the trick. I don't know of any such external tool, however). | 19:14 |
| wad | Hmm. One path might be to paste it into gimp, then draw, then snag ANOTHER screenshot. | 19:15 |
| * wad tries | 19:15 | |
| wad | Oh, hey, that works GREAT! | 19:16 |
| wad | Yaaaaaaas | 19:16 |
| arraybolt3 | \o/ | 19:16 |
| explodes | No kernel changes after upgrade. Hmmm | 19:17 |
| wad | Okay, next question! I like to use gedit for note taking. Today I has a few lines selected, and I wanted to make a different selection, but when I used my mouse, it instead MOVED the selected text on me. | 19:17 |
| wad | Any way to disable drag-and-drop text selections? Looking through the gedit settings, I didn't see anything. | 19:17 |
| arraybolt3 | wad: Hmm, initial searches are coming up pretty scarce. I just got used to clicking to remove the current selection before making a new one. | 19:19 |
| wad | Yeah, I can get used to that also. It's just that this is a feature that I will __never__ use, and potentially messes stuff up if it accidentally triggers. I'd prefer to switch it off. | 19:19 |
| wad | Also, I'm sitting at work at the moment, and people behind me have easy visibility to my screen. Earlier today, I googled this, and found a promising link. | 19:20 |
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| wad | When I clicked it, an ad popped in front of the page, and so I clicked the X to close the ad, but that spawned another tab, which started playing pr0n. Not cool, man. | 19:21 |
| wad | So now I'm only searching for Ubuntu help on my phone. -_- | 19:21 |
| explodes | Ok, just did an do-release-upgrade. It said my 3rd party sources.lists were disabled and to use "software-properties" to re-enable them? software-properties is not a command tho - what do? | 19:21 |
| arraybolt3 | explodes: software-properties-gtk is what you're looking for. (Or the "Software & Updates" app in the app menu. This all assumes you're on Ubuntu, not a flavor.) | 19:22 |
| arraybolt3 | (If you're on a flavor that uses KDE, you want software-properties-kde, and if you're on Lubuntu, you want software-properties-qt.) | 19:23 |
| arraybolt3 | You should probably use sudo to run whichever one of those works on your system. | 19:23 |
| explodes | I see. In the "Other Software" tab where it lists "disabled" items, I need to get the new ppa url, right? | 19:24 |
| arraybolt3 | explodes: Hmm, not sure what you're talking about, could you send screenshots? | 19:25 |
| arraybolt3 | Though what you're saying sounds right to me, assuming I'm understanding you and your system's situation properly (which I might not be). | 19:26 |
| explodes | oh god i dislike the new screenshot | 19:26 |
| arraybolt3 | Shift+Print Screen to do an instant full-screen snapshot | 19:26 |
| explodes | https://i.imgur.com/UzN1Jeb.png | 19:26 |
| explodes | What's the shortcut for grabbing a portion? | 19:27 |
| arraybolt3 | Alt+Print Screen to capture the current window | 19:27 |
| arraybolt3 | Wow, that looks like a mess. Can you pop open a terminal and run "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link that command spits out? That will let me look at what PPAs you have enabled. | 19:28 |
| wad | On my keyboard, the ALT-PRTSCN doesn't let be get a portion of the display, instead I just hit the key without modifiers. | 19:31 |
| arraybolt3 | wad: I thought you said you hated that, so I was giving you the closest thing to let you avoid it :) | 19:32 |
| wad | (This might be because the key has "SysRq" on the bottom, and "PrtScn" at the top... supposed to use some modifier with it? This is freakin' weird key. | 19:32 |
| wad | arraybolt3, hmm? I think you mixed me up with someone else's comment. :) | 19:33 |
| arraybolt3 | wad: Ah, I get it. SysRq probably does have something to do with it. The screenshot happens for me once I let go of Alt after pressing Alt+PrintScreen. | 19:33 |
| arraybolt3 | wad: And yes, I accidentally mixed you up with explodes. | 19:33 |
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| arraybolt3 | >_< | 19:33 |
| wadexplodes | better? | 19:34 |
| arraybolt3 | NO! WORSE, MUCH WORSE. :P | 19:34 |
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| arraybolt3 | There, better. | 19:35 |
| arraybolt3 | wad: On Ubuntu, Alt+PrintScreen does take a current window screenshot. However, it also does dual-duty - if you press Alt+PrintScreen, but then hold down Alt after releasing PrintScreen, you can access cool features of the Linux kernel with various keyboard shortcuts (if said shortcuts are enabled). | 19:36 |
| arraybolt3 | You may have heard of REISUB - that's a Magic SysRq key combo for forcing a somewhat clean reboot even if the system nearly totally locks up. | 19:36 |
| arraybolt3 | It would need to be enabled to work on Ubuntu, but once enabled, you would activate it by holding down Alt, then slowly pressing PrintScreen, R, E, I, S, U, B, in that order. | 19:37 |
| arraybolt3 | So that's why your key is acting weird. | 19:38 |
| arraybolt3 | wad: ^ | 19:38 |
| laguna | OliPicard the Star Trek music is lame compared to Julia's song for laguna..that her daughter Rinoa wanted to sing for squall since her mother was killed and only left her a song | 19:45 |
| laguna | Captain Picard of Star Trek doesn't have the musical genius of julia's song for laguna | 19:46 |
| wad | Ooo, cool! | 19:46 |
| wad | arraybolt3, grabbing that info for later experimentation. | 19:47 |
| laguna | well no one sings eyes on me better than Faye Wong of final fantasy 8 | 19:47 |
| arraybolt3 | laguana: Wrong channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic. | 19:48 |
| arraybolt3 | laguna: ^ | 19:48 |
| laguna | ok | 19:48 |
| laguna | Faye Wong sings it just the way julia would have sung it for laguna if she had lived | 19:49 |
| laguna | ok going to ubuntu-offtopic | 19:50 |
| plujon | I want to know if the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-5.4/+bug/1981658/ is in linux-image-5.4.0-125-generic . I don't understand the Launchpad Janitor output, which only mentions linux (4.15.0-191.202)... | 19:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1981658 in linux-hwe-5.4 (Ubuntu Bionic) "BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, address: 0000000000000008" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 19:59 |
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| jhutchins | plujon: "Confirmed" is not "Resolved". Did you check upstream? kernel.org? | 20:26 |
| plujon | jhutchins: No; I didn't check upstream, nor kernel.org. I only looked at the bug report in launchpad. | 20:27 |
| ravage | plujon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-5.4/5.4.0-124.140~18.04.1 mentions the fix in the changelog | 20:36 |
| ravage | that is the one currently in bionic-security | 20:37 |
| Guest92 | how do you lock screen in ubuntu 22.04 with openbox | 20:37 |
| c_89 | Hi, I have written this bash script and I add it to thunar custom actions but not works :( https://pastebin.com/D9YZd2xN | 20:43 |
| rapha | ravage: if you're still around, could you try the virt-install command line from https://sumit-ghosh.com/articles/create-vm-using-libvirt-cloud-images-cloud-init/ instead of the raw qemu command line that you used earlier? somehow, with the same image, same modifications to it, same everyhing ... raw qemu command line boots fine, but using virt-install and then looking at the spice console ... it | 20:50 |
| rapha | never boots up, always hangs indefinitely after the first Grub message. gave it something like 2 hours now; not happening. wondering if you can confirm? | 20:50 |
| Scarletmarauder | Hello, so I was trying to update ubuntu from 18.04, to 20.04 and well I screwed it up bad. | 20:51 |
| Scarletmarauder | Since I had a bunch of packages that weren't updating, I removed them and well I think I removed critical packages and now the thing boots, but well no network access (network doesn't exist despite being plugged into ethernet). | 20:54 |
| arraybolt3 | Scarletmarauder: Ouch. At this point, I'd recover your personal data with a live USB and reinstall Ubuntu from scratch. Make sure to grab browser passwords if you use a password manager! | 21:01 |
| Scarletmarauder | arraybolt3 I don't suppose this channel offers a bar for a drink. | 21:02 |
| arraybolt3 | Scarletmarauder: No, but a clean install shouldn't be too tough. | 21:02 |
| Scarletmarauder | I am sort of leaning on that option. Quick question I have a bunch of system settings that, any way I can back those up. | 21:03 |
| Scarletmarauder | I mainly used the thing as a large downloading machine and to host a battletech | 21:03 |
| arraybolt3 | Scarletmarauder: If you back up all your dotfiles, you might be able to restore your system settings. *Might.* I'd be careful and try to reintroduce the files slowly. | 21:03 |
| Scarletmarauder | dotfiles? | 21:04 |
| arraybolt3 | There's a ton of hidden files in your home folder that start with a period (dot), like .local. Those are called dotfiles IIUC. | 21:04 |
| Scarletmarauder | Ah | 21:04 |
| arraybolt3 | You can see them by showing hidden files with your file manager, or by using "ls -a". | 21:04 |
| arraybolt3 | ("ls -a" in a terminal, I mean.) | 21:05 |
| Scarletmarauder | I figured as much. | 21:05 |
| arraybolt3 | Keep in mind that the newer version of Ubuntu and the newer software included might not be compatible with all of your old dotfiles, so again, things might not be just plug-and-play. | 21:05 |
| Scarletmarauder | I got 8k torrents, alot of delicate settings, that I can't afford to mess up. | 21:05 |
| arraybolt3 | Do you have a backup solution in place so you can go back to where you were before? | 21:05 |
| Scarletmarauder | no, but the videos are all on externals at the least. | 21:06 |
| Scarletmarauder | really wish I did | 21:06 |
| arraybolt3 | Crud. Then really trial and error with the dotfiles and reconfiguration is probably the best you'll get. | 21:06 |
| Scarletmarauder | Sounds like it. | 21:07 |
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| Scarletmarauder | Well I might as well make file copies of the actually things I ended up changing and hoping that i can restore them | 21:09 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Sounds good. If you make a total backup now, you can try again if you mess something up during the reinstallation procedure. | 21:10 |
| ravage | rapha, works with the image used on that guide. i can SSH into it after virt-install | 21:11 |
| Scarletmarauder | arraybolt3 any tips on doing the backup? | 21:14 |
| arraybolt3 | Scarletmarauder: Attach an external drive to the broken system, and dd the system's internal drive into a file on the external drive (sorta like "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=./disk.img bs=4M", obviously adjust this as needed for your system, and be careful not to make typos). | 21:15 |
| arraybolt3 | That "dd" command I put above is just a rough idea of what to do to make a full disk image backup - if you need me to fill in the rest let me know. | 21:15 |
| Scarletmarauder | I will let you know I think I should be fine. (sort of depressed that I need start over when it had been running decent for 5 years) | 21:17 |
| rapha | ravage: thank you. that's one idea i didn't have, to try it with an older ubuntu version. | 21:30 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: which packages did you remove? /var/log/apt/history.log should show them | 21:33 |
| Scarletmarauder | Give me a minute am going to pull it up | 21:33 |
| EriC^^ | if you just updated, the .deb files should be in /var/cache/apt/archives | 21:33 |
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| Scarletmarauder | EriC^^ I found the log. should i try to reinstall what I removed | 21:56 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 21:56 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: are you able to ping 8.8.8.8? | 21:57 |
| Scarletmarauder | EriC^^ no I am not. | 21:59 |
| Scarletmarauder | I got 0 network connectivity or network access. | 21:59 |
| Scarletmarauder | https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/764686653528473630/1012481582952624209/20220825_175956.jpg?width=729&height=547 that is what my desktop on linux looks like. | 22:00 |
| EriC^^ | which packages did you remove? | 22:04 |
| Scarletmarauder | give me a minute, i got the list on the computer | 22:07 |
| Scarletmarauder | EriC^^ here is the log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WZxPmBcDp9/ | 22:09 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: it removed alot | 22:12 |
| Scarletmarauder | Yeah | 22:12 |
| EriC^^ | anyways try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager' for starters | 22:12 |
| Scarletmarauder | ran it. got E failed to fetch stuff. should i run apt get update or fix missing? | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | network-manager:amd64 (1.10.6-2ubuntu1.4) is one of the packages that were removed. if anything, maybe the "ip" command can be used to bring nretworking up still. but more likely, a fresh 22.04 installation is a better idea. | 22:16 |
| tomreyn | although this computer looks old - hopefully it has enough RAM installed. | 22:17 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: i parsed the list of removed stuff here, https://termbin.com/adj7 | 22:17 |
| Scarletmarauder | 8 gigs if memory serves | 22:17 |
| EriC^^ | once you get an internet connection going on, xargs -a /path/to/list sudo apt-get install --reinstall -y should get them all reinstalled | 22:17 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: i have an idea, do you have a live usb you can use? you can chroot into the install with the internet connection on the live usb and reinstall those packages | 22:19 |
| Scarletmarauder | I should have one soewhere, let me look around since I cant seem to get a connection going. (tried dhcleint and up) | 22:19 |
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| cbreak | how can I find out why a package in apt upgrade is held back? For example nftables? | 22:26 |
| EriC^^ | cbreak: apt-cache policy <package> might show some info | 22:27 |
| ravage | tomreyn: maybe dhclient on his network interface is enough? | 22:27 |
| cbreak | hmm... 1.0.2-1ubuntu3 500 (phased 30%) | 22:27 |
| cbreak | EriC^^: thanks... that's at least a hint :D | 22:27 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 22:28 |
| HiHoGo | hi | 22:28 |
| luna__ | hi | 22:29 |
| ravage | Scarletmarauder: what was the result of dhclient? | 22:29 |
| laguna | nckx..is gr stand for greece | 22:30 |
| Scarletmarauder | ravage, it can't find eth0. | 22:30 |
| Scarletmarauder | I ran iwconfig and it gave me back wlp4s0 | 22:30 |
| Scarletmarauder | should i try dhclient wlp4s0 and see if that gives me a connection. I am tearing apart my place for a sub drive. I got an old sd card | 22:31 |
| HiHoGo | how is things. | 22:31 |
| llanhmod | hm, just not finding out about codium. | 22:31 |
| ravage | Scarletmarauder, try "ip l" one of the interfaces should be your wired connection | 22:32 |
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| ravage | mine is enp2s0 for example | 22:33 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: if you have an iso on disk you could boot it from grub | 22:35 |
| Scarletmarauder | ravage I got enp3s0. | 22:35 |
| ravage | sudo dhclient enp3s0 | 22:35 |
| ravage | after you connected a wire of course :) | 22:36 |
| Scarletmarauder | the computer is connected via ethernet ran the command | 22:36 |
| ravage | now you could try EriC^^s list of packages | 22:37 |
| ravage | and install them | 22:37 |
| Scarletmarauder | I am online again | 22:37 |
| Scarletmarauder | :) | 22:37 |
| ravage | that is a good start yes :) | 22:37 |
| Scarletmarauder | so now I run xargs -a /path/to/list sudo apt-get install --reinstall -y that command right? | 22:38 |
| EriC^^ | yeah, wget -O /tmp/list https://termbin.com/adj7 | 22:39 |
| ravage | kind of. you need to put that list of packages somewhere and replace /path/to/list with it | 22:39 |
| EriC^^ | xargs -a /tmp/list ..... | 22:39 |
| Scarletmarauder | yup | 22:39 |
| ravage | that ^ :) | 22:39 |
| HiHoGo | Hi all I have a micro sd card that is conectred via a usb card rfeader. It wont show up in Gparted. is there a way to access the card from terminal. | 22:39 |
| HiHoGo | sorry bit rusty on my extended terminal related stuff appart from the basics. | 22:40 |
| ravage | HiHoGo, if gparted does not show it there may be a problem. you can try "sudo dmesg" after you plugged in the device | 22:41 |
| ravage | it should show you if the devices was detected properly | 22:41 |
| HiHoGo | thanks ravage hold on | 22:41 |
| ravage | "journalctl -b -f" works too | 22:42 |
| ravage | that should give you a live view of events | 22:42 |
| Scarletmarauder | Well I ran the command xargs -a /tmp/list sudo apt-get install --reinstall -y ended up getting some errors for packages that are not available. | 22:42 |
| Scarletmarauder | should i edit the list remove those packages? | 22:43 |
| ravage | try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager' | 22:43 |
| ravage | maybe this will at least make your network available via the GUI again | 22:43 |
| HiHoGo | ravage: too much input in the dmesg comand. I think it all looks good | 22:44 |
| ravage | HiHoGo, does is detect any device? | 22:44 |
| HiHoGo | yes lots of them as it always does. | 22:44 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: yeah remove the unavailable packages | 22:45 |
| ravage | HiHoGo, pastebin the lines that appear when you plug in the reader at "journalctl -b -f" | 22:45 |
| ravage | you can use https://dpaste.org/ for example | 22:46 |
| HiHoGo | my assumption is that the file systrem on the card may have been currupted. A possable solution is to run some terminal comands that can unjumble and reset the drive nimbers so it can access it or a low level format that can fix things like this sometimes. yes its a micro sd card in card reader. | 22:47 |
| ravage | HiHoGo, gparted does not care about the filesystem. the device should show up | 22:48 |
| HiHoGo | agreeed. but if there is a problem with the device then more drastic solutions are needed. | 22:49 |
| HiHoGo | thats all i know. | 22:49 |
| HiHoGo | some terminal commands, low level format etc can sometimes help or not. | 22:49 |
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| EriC^^ | HiHoGo: follow what ravage said regarding journalctl | 22:52 |
| HiHoGo | ravage: there is no journalctl -b -f line in the dmesg output. | 22:53 |
| EriC^^ | HiHoGo: type 'dmesg -w' insert the card, see if it says anything | 22:53 |
| HiHoGo | and there is no journalctl either | 22:53 |
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| Scarletmarauder | EriC^^ i ran the command | 22:55 |
| Scarletmarauder | i got a popup saying gdm3, a display mannager is a program that priovdes graphical login. (do i want gdm3 or lightdm) | 22:56 |
| HiHoGo | https://pastebin.com/R772bk86 | 22:56 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: yeah its the program that you type your user/pass into (display manager) | 22:57 |
| HiHoGo | dpaste missing option, button etc to create post | 22:57 |
| ravage | HiHoGo, that looks like a broken sd card. do you have another one to test with? | 22:57 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: it's up to | 22:57 |
| HiHoGo | hold on | 22:58 |
| Scarletmarauder | great.:) now lets hope this all works. | 22:58 |
| * Hayro #turkey open new canal #turkey | 22:58 | |
| mybalzitch | paging mods | 22:59 |
| * Hayro turkey canal open | 22:59 | |
| ravage | Hayro, spam somewhere else please | 22:59 |
| mybalzitch | and the word you're looking for is "channel" | 22:59 |
| Scarletmarauder | why are you helping the spammer | 22:59 |
| Scarletmarauder | also I thought it was pronounced turkyie now or something. | 23:00 |
| mybalzitch | I believe that jobs should always be done well | 23:00 |
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| Scarletmarauder | Fair enough. | 23:05 |
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| HiHoGo | thanks all. \ | 23:08 |
| HiHoGo | I tested these cards I have and all fail in ubuntu. | 23:08 |
| HiHoGo | I also tested them in my Macbook, some will show them in the os but i cant format them | 23:09 |
| HiHoGo | I think they are all broken and in read only mode. | 23:09 |
| HiHoGo | unless you can think of any other options | 23:09 |
| Scarletmarauder | godamn it, the thing rebooted god I hope nothing broke | 23:09 |
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| HiHoGo | Scarletmarauder: what you trying to do there?? | 23:10 |
| Scarletmarauder | um well i accidently deleted almost everything, and am trying to recover | 23:10 |
| Scarletmarauder | WAHOOOO IT ALL WORKS | 23:12 |
| Scarletmarauder | EriC^^ ravage and everyone else thank you so much for your help this evening. | 23:13 |
| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: great! no problem | 23:17 |
| Scarletmarauder | I should probably update it 20.04 right? | 23:17 |
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| EriC^^ | Scarletmarauder: sounds good | 23:22 |
| David- | Hi, I appear to have buggered my server by enabling selinux and now it won't boot. I've managed to get a KVM attached and pressed "e" to edit the config line to disable it but can't seem to find what to set it to? | 23:30 |
| David- | Can anyone help? | 23:30 |
| David- | part of the line says "security=selinux" can I just change this to "security=none" ? | 23:30 |
| rfm | David-, could just remove the whole security=selinux parameter | 23:32 |
| David- | will try that, thanks | 23:32 |
| David- | rfm: that's done it, thank you :) | 23:33 |
| Scarletmarauder | well that didn't work. | 23:38 |
| Scarletmarauder | It is saying I have unofficial software that is blocking the update | 23:38 |
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