[02:14] <jbwncster> I’m trying to put lubuntu on my old MacBook hdd
[02:14] <jbwncster> It got stuck on the newest distro so I’m trying 21.04
[02:14] <jbwncster> I know if that works I probably can update it myself
[02:17] <jbwncster> It’s stuck creating the initramfs
[03:04] <guiverc> jbwncster, Lubuntu 21.04 is EOL & thus unsupported here, only 20.04 LTS & 22.04 LTS are supported (currently)
[03:05] <guiverc> jbwncster, https://lubuntu.me/hirsute-eol/
[03:05] <jbwncster> I was going to use it to do the initial install and then update it manually with the terminal
[03:06] <jbwncster> But it didn’t work either
[03:07] <guiverc> 21.04 release-upgraded to 21.10, but that's not available either as it's EOL too 
[03:18] <teward> jbwncster: i see guiverc got to you.  but yes 21.04 is dead as well.  So is 21.10.  Lubuntu 20.04 LTS is the only version still supported other than Lbuntu 22.04 
[03:18] <teward> so if Lubuntu 22.04 is not able to work on your system then you need to use 20.04
[03:18] <jbwncster> I wasn’t even at that part
[03:18] <jbwncster> I was trying to install it on an external hdd
[03:19] <jbwncster> It wasn’t even in a machine
[03:21] <guiverc> 'it got stuck' tells us nothing, so I can't comment on descriptions like that on your comment ~an hour ago...
[03:22] <jbwncster> It was stuck creating initramfs
[03:23] <guiverc> You said that with 21.04; we don't support that release.
[03:24] <jbwncster> On all the releases
[03:24] <teward> you tried 22.04 as well?  You also waited because initramfs can take a long time to create if you're using an external hard drive?
[03:24] <teward> (USB drives are slow as sin, compared to direct on-board SATA or NVMe)
[03:25] <jbwncster> teward: I waited 10 minutes
[03:26] <jbwncster> If I had a cd burner I’d be able to install it with the drive inside
[03:26] <jbwncster> The old MacBook doesn’t allow booting from usb
[03:26] <guiverc> 10 minutes isn't that long (some slow devices can take a looong time), but I'd have switched to a text terminal & explored system logs (journalctl, dmesg etc... for clues) as I'd expect (hope?) to see evidence if it was looping (and not just super-slow)...
[03:27] <jbwncster> Yeah
[03:27] <jbwncster> Maybe I’ll try again and leave it overnight
[03:37] <guiverc> jbwncster, just fyi.. but I'd have tried a xubuntu/kubuntu or other flavor Ubuntu 22.04 instead of 21.10/21.04 (or EOL release).. the initramfs steps are the same for each Ubuntu system (inc. Lubuntu), but other flavors use `ubiquity` installer which can make a difference for some 'strangish' hardware (each installer has its strengths & weaknesses).   I'd expect it to end the same, but if didn't I'd then make that the flavor (lubuntu) you 
[03:37] <guiverc> want... you can use #ubuntu which has more eyes & thus may get reponses (people who use old macbooks with external drives maybe)