| Scarletmarauder | Well I keep trying to install but I run into this "ubuntu unresolved problem occurred while calculating the upgrade this was likely caused by unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu please use the tool ppa-ourge -site:pinterest.*" | 00:14 |
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| Scarletmarauder | Well I keep trying to install but I run into this "ubuntu unresolved problem occurred while calculating the upgrade this was likely caused by unofficial software packages not provided by ubuntu please use the tool ppa-purge" | 00:14 |
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| enigma9o7[m] | And did you try that? | 00:39 |
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| geosmile | I want to create a ubuntu user using a script with no password acess (only key ssh access) and no sudo password. Does anyone have a pointer for me for such a script that can do that. I feel like this is a 2 command process. | 01:29 |
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| laguna | it is strange why hexchat won't let me add a libera server . | 01:38 |
| oerheks | i am sure libera is added in an update, long time ago | 01:39 |
| laguna | oerheks..well if i sudo hexchat there is a libera server entry for root...but i don't want to use root | 01:40 |
| laguna | oerheks and if i use normal user it won't let me edit data | 01:40 |
| oerheks | never run hexchat as root. | 01:41 |
| laguna | oerheks yes i don't | 01:41 |
| oerheks | maybe you cannot edit current profile , add a new one | 01:42 |
| laguna | it is not a problem since i can manually connect but i would like to be able to edit data and add a libera surver | 01:42 |
| oerheks | maybe #libera is a help, i say hexchat on current supported releases have libera standard in the list. and no need to edit that, AFAIK | 01:43 |
| geosmile | This command errors out -> sudo adduser --system --shell /bin/bash --gecos ‘User’ --group --disabled-password --home /home/ubuntu ubuntu | 01:44 |
| geosmile | what am i missing? | 01:44 |
| geosmile | Error: adduser: Only one or two names allowed. | 01:44 |
| laguna | oerheks well this version is 2.16 or linux 5.15 | 01:44 |
| geosmile | found the issue | 01:46 |
| oerheks | or maybe you need to be disconnected, to edit | 01:46 |
| laguna | oerheks it erases the data i enter when i try to close the window | 01:47 |
| laguna | oerheks it has the same problem on the windows version also | 01:47 |
| oerheks | wipe the contents of ~/.config/hexchat and try again? | 01:49 |
| laguna | oerheks that gave me an idea i just entered the data in the config file...let me close and reopen and see if the libera server shows up | 01:53 |
| laguna | oerheks yes ok it has a server entry now and it works | 01:55 |
| oerheks | !yay | 01:55 |
| ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 01:55 |
| laguna | now there just needs to be a way to get systemctl enable gdm3 to work..it seems to be missing a config file | 02:00 |
| laguna | i noticed the same problem with lightdm | 02:01 |
| laguna | the enable doesn't work..but the start does | 02:01 |
| laguna | well rosegarden looks like it is working but i don't have my old hand me down casio keyboard to test this version 21 | 02:07 |
| laguna | for entering all the instruments to create a symphony | 02:08 |
| geosmile | I'm trying to install ubuntu 20.04lts on an old intel nuc, and it wont show me the USB drive in the bios to boot from. | 02:15 |
| geosmile | the usb drive shows red light at the beginning of the boot process, then the machine boots from the old os on the ssd | 02:16 |
| laguna | geosmile well your bios may not support that style of drive | 02:16 |
| laguna | if it is an older bios | 02:17 |
| laguna | i have an old bios that only supports a cd boot | 02:18 |
| geosmile | I think you might be right - how do i burn a usb drive (32GB) so that I can install 20.04LTs | 02:18 |
| geosmile | I think this one might support only upto 4GB usb sticks? | 02:18 |
| laguna | 4 gig is more than enough for a ubuntu install | 02:19 |
| geosmile | nuc5i7ryb is the model number | 02:20 |
| laguna | geosmile i would have to look up the specs on that model | 02:20 |
| lotuspsychje | geosmile: update your NUC to latest firmware | 02:21 |
| laguna | yes you can see if a firmware update is available | 02:21 |
| geosmile | trying to find the updated bios for it | 02:21 |
| lotuspsychje | those are pretty crucial on nucs | 02:21 |
| laguna | i have only been able to find a relatively few hardware updates..a couple of versions for some cd burners and then no more | 02:23 |
| lotuspsychje | geosmile: it could also be your bios settings not setup properly, i never heared of a nuc not be able to boot from usb before | 02:24 |
| geosmile | lotuspsychje, this is at least a 5 year old nuc if not more - I can't even find that model on the bios download page of intel! | 02:24 |
| laguna | geosmile yes hardware support doesn't last very long | 02:25 |
| laguna | it is because all the hardware and software prices are being driven to zero...by the free software foundation and the free hardware foundation | 02:27 |
| lotuspsychje | geosmile: how did you burn your usb? | 02:29 |
| Jasonwiz | hello there everyone | 02:35 |
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| laguna | geosmile they are even putting the bios people out of business with free bioses using qemu...for various motherboards already | 02:39 |
| laguna | geosmile just more of the power and influence of the free software and free hardware foundation | 02:39 |
| laguna | and the 64 bit chips have loosened intel's grip on the old 32 bit market | 02:41 |
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| laguna | so everyone is scrambling for just a few pennies left as the prices all approach zero | 02:43 |
| laguna | that is why people are trying to focus on creating multimillion dollar movies and video games with creative and musical genius | 02:45 |
| Jasonwiz | hey laguna whats your facebook name | 02:45 |
| laguna | i don't do facebook | 02:45 |
| laguna | i am opposed to spyware that victimizes people's privacy | 02:46 |
| Jasonwiz | question laguna do you noe aynthing about hacking | 02:46 |
| laguna | slashdot reports today that google is the worst and apple is the least offensive but still uses 12 trackers too | 02:46 |
| lotuspsychje | !ot | 02:47 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 02:47 |
| laguna | jasonwiz...what do you want to hack | 02:47 |
| Jasonwiz | a bank | 02:47 |
| laguna | jasonwiz...no i am a violent criminal..by jew laws...i don't engage in theft | 02:48 |
| Jasonwiz | ok | 02:48 |
| Jasonwiz | i am also a hacker my self | 02:49 |
| lotuspsychje | not a topic for here Jasonwiz | 02:49 |
| laguna | jasonwiz..well white hat hackers have been quite useful | 02:49 |
| lotuspsychje | laguna: and please dont feed ot discussions | 02:49 |
| laguna | jasonwiz...but watch out for the black hats that victimize their prey | 02:50 |
| Jasonwiz | i am both | 02:50 |
| laguna | jasonwiz..ok i will take this off-topic to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel | 02:50 |
| Rodon | what tp-link bluetooth usb works ? have to buy one... please suggest the model thats working already.. or where can i get the supported chip details.. | 02:52 |
| geosmile | Rodon, keep away from tp-link perhaps? Try linksys/netgear? | 02:53 |
| Rodon | its brand? | 02:54 |
| Rodon | linksys,netgear. | 02:54 |
| Rodon | ys found | 02:55 |
| Colere | OK to ask about Kubuntu 20.04 in here? | 02:56 |
| hotdogwater42 | >#ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors | 03:01 |
| hotdogwater42 | yes | 03:01 |
| Colere | OK, so, in kcharselect when I go snooping for some weird character to use, I see lots of blank boxes. How do I install enough locales/fonts/whatever to fill those boxes in with real unicode characters? | 03:04 |
| oerheks | i think it just means that the unicode character specified isn't available in that particular font | 03:07 |
| oerheks | no fix | 03:07 |
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| Guest5790 | hi, is anyone on here? I am testing weechat on ubuntu | 04:47 |
| Bashing-om | Guest5790: And the support question is ? | 04:48 |
| slingamn | `apt-get dist-upgrade` on my 22.04.1 server is reporting: | 05:03 |
| slingamn | The following packages have been kept back: | 05:03 |
| slingamn | libnftables1 nftables | 05:03 |
| slingamn | i'm not sure what the issue is, or how to fix it | 05:03 |
| Bashing-om | slingamn: slingamn: What results with "apt" ... ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ? | 05:22 |
| slingamn | same output exactly | 05:22 |
| slingamn | i saw some SO posts like "if you're seeing this from `apt upgrade`, try `apt-get dist-upgrade` instead" | 05:23 |
| slingamn | but neither works | 05:23 |
| Bashing-om | slingamn: Surprised .. while one may force the held packages to install - I am not a proponent of such action. But ! | 05:24 |
| Bashing-om | !info nftables focal | 05:24 |
| ubottu | nftables (0.9.3-2, focal): Program to control packet filtering rules by Netfilter project. In component universe, is extra. Built by nftables. Size 51 kB / 143 kB. (Only available for linux-any.) | 05:24 |
| slingamn | this is jammy | 05:25 |
| slingamn | i currently have 1.0.2-1ubuntu2 | 05:25 |
| murmel | slingamn, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html (it's a phased update) | 05:26 |
| murmel | you can apt upgrade <package> | 05:26 |
| murmel | if you want | 05:26 |
| murmel | or wait | 05:26 |
| Bashing-om | slingamn: Are tou pukking from the ubuntu repository ? ' apt policy nftables ' . | 05:26 |
| slingamn | ty | 05:26 |
| slingamn | i'll wait | 05:26 |
| murmel | I really hate that even when you opt out of phased updates you see those updates :( | 05:26 |
| slingamn | just wanted to be sure my system wasn't in a bad/unexpected state :-) | 05:26 |
| Bashing-om | slingamn: Ouch - sorry - tired and mu eu=yes are crossing :( | 05:26 |
| murmel | I would fav that site, as you can't see otherwise which updates are phased (except you apt policy every package) | 05:27 |
| slingamn | bookmarked :-) | 05:27 |
| murmel | I really wonder why canonical doesn't have a more "official" site which tells you which are phased. as a "random" people website :/ | 05:28 |
| slingamn | hmm if the policy information is available in-band, i would prefer if apt-get would just display it | 05:29 |
| slingamn | even if the website were more prominent, people (like me) might not know about it, at least until the first time they encounter this | 05:30 |
| murmel | slingamn, if you don't use 3rd party repos, it's like 99.9% a phased update when it gets held back | 05:31 |
| slingamn | ah | 05:31 |
| slingamn | i usually have one or more third party repos on my desktop systems | 05:31 |
| slingamn | but this is a server so it's pure | 05:32 |
| murmel | makes sense. not everybody is happy what's inside the ubuntu repos ;) | 05:32 |
| murmel | slingamn, on a server, I would definitely look into configuring phased updates to be always installed or not | 05:33 |
| murmel | if you didn't do that already | 05:33 |
| slingamn | i'll think about it | 05:33 |
| slingamn | but, they wouldn't do this for a security update or anything else eligible for unattended-upgrades, right? | 05:34 |
| slingamn | so this really only affects manual upgrades | 05:34 |
| murmel | slingamn, if you have more than 1, you want to always be on the same status | 05:34 |
| slingamn | i have a bunch of these but not in the same role | 05:34 |
| murmel | I never saw a security update for now (afair) | 05:34 |
| murmel | slingamn, I would definitely make them one or the other, so you know that they all share the same base ubuntu package versions | 05:35 |
| Cursarion | I've got a fresh install of 22.04.1 (running xfce now), and software & updates doesn't work. If I try to change a checkbox or a dropdown option, it just immediately reverts to the previous option. Can this be because I installed the default flavor and then xfce/xubuntu after that, or what's going on? | 06:16 |
| alkisg | Cursarion: what happens if you update from the command line? | 06:23 |
| alkisg | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y | 06:23 |
| Cursarion | alkisg: no errors, but doesn't change the way how Software & Updates doesn't work. Also, when I close it, it complains about sources being not up to date | 06:25 |
| Cursarion | even though I did the apt-get commands seconds prior | 06:25 |
| alkisg | OK, I just wanted to make sure it's a GUI issue and not an underlying apt issue; wait for more feedback from others... | 06:27 |
| Cursarion | alkisg: alright | 06:31 |
| OpenSource | Hi | 06:43 |
| OpenSource | What's the best way to get 5.19 on 22.04? | 06:43 |
| OpenSource | https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.19/ should I use this? | 06:44 |
| murmel | OpenSource, you can, and as you still have the old kernel, you can just reboot into the old one if you have issues | 06:47 |
| murmel | just remember that those kernels are mainline, so have no ubuntu specific patches | 06:47 |
| JoeLlama | so like I'm setting up software RAiD 6 on this box and the hard drives aren't doing anything and it's stuck at 19.5% complete... | 07:03 |
| JoeLlama | it's resyncing... | 07:04 |
| JoeLlama | can I shut down and will it just continue when I reboot later? | 07:04 |
| JoeLlama | I guess I'll just shutdown and see | 07:09 |
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| cosmicrajiv | I've just received a notification which says "panding update of firefox snap, close the app to avoid disruptions (12 days left). what is this 12 days left? | 07:55 |
| toddc | cosmicrajiv: if you leave firefox open it will install the new firefox and restart firefox in 12 days | 07:56 |
| cosmicrajiv | toddc; ok.. can i install it now? | 07:57 |
| cosmicrajiv | i mean can i update it now? | 07:58 |
| toddc | cosmicrajiv: yes I prefer snap refresh in a terminal it will update all snaps now | 07:58 |
| cosmicrajiv | toddc: ok. thanks | 07:59 |
| toddc | you could also just close firefox long enough to complete the upgrade but may as well do them all at once | 08:00 |
| cosmicrajiv | toddc; i updated it by snap refresh. | 08:04 |
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| Payam | Hi, I have a problem with my external screen. I have a Hp Zbook G6. It detects the two external screens but only shows desktop on 1 of them. I have tried to do `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall` . Reconfigured gdm3 and alot more but still nothing is shown on my screen | 08:52 |
| murmel | Payam, which gpu do you have? | 08:53 |
| Payam | murmel Quadro RTX 3000 | 08:53 |
| murmel | Payam, which gpu driver? | 08:54 |
| Payam | nvidia-driver-515 installed by ubuntu-driver | 08:55 |
| murmel | is the driver also used? | 08:55 |
| Payam | it is selected in Additional drivers | 08:55 |
| Payam | I don't know if that is used | 08:55 |
| murmel | it should be, but you can verify with lspci -k | 08:56 |
| murmel | it tells you which kernel driver is used | 08:56 |
| Payam | https://pastebin.com/CmbNH5si | 08:56 |
| Payam | nvidia | 08:56 |
| murmel | good, so I would try out an older driver version. and/or complain to nvidia | 08:58 |
| Payam | ? | 08:59 |
| Payam | sorry got disconnected | 08:59 |
| murmel | Payam, as this is driver issue, you need to complain to nvidia directly as it's a driver bug (closed source). otherwise you can test out if an older driver version works | 09:00 |
| Payam | older? like 430? | 09:00 |
| Payam | and so on? | 09:00 |
| murmel | 510 I assume? | 09:00 |
| Payam | okej, I will try it thanks | 09:00 |
| Payam | I remember that I installed 430 and 510. How do I know what version is in used? | 09:01 |
| murmel | Payam, whatever ubuntu-driver tells you, otherwise I assume the driver packages conflict each other (but not sure) | 09:02 |
| Payam | well autoinstall tells me 515 | 09:02 |
| murmel | yeah because it's the newest driver | 09:03 |
| murmel | and that's installed I assume | 09:03 |
| noelgrandin | hi. how do I turn off that annoying "shaking" animation thing in the left-hand sidebar when some application is activated? I have already turned off animations | 09:48 |
| murmel | noelgrandin, did you go into the settings of the gnome extension? | 09:52 |
| noelgrandin | murmel, which extension? this is stock ubuntu, have not installed any extensions? | 09:53 |
| murmel | noelgrandin, by default ubuntu has 3 extensions active (the sidebar, systray and desktop icons) | 09:54 |
| Payam | murmel do I need to install the driver server aswell? | 09:54 |
| murmel | noelgrandin, the settings of the dock are in settings and then behaviour(?) or the like, sorry I am right now not on ubuntu | 09:54 |
| murmel | Payam, no | 09:55 |
| murmel | that's only if you have no gui | 09:55 |
| Payam | what is it for? | 09:55 |
| Payam | ah | 09:55 |
| Payam | okej | 09:55 |
| Payam | how about xserver-xorg-nvidia? | 09:55 |
| Payam | they are not good? | 09:55 |
| murmel | Payam, that should be autoinstalled afaik | 09:56 |
| noelgrandin | murmel, Settings -> Appearance -> Dock has nothing to configure such behaviour, sadly | 09:56 |
| murmel | noelgrandin, install gnome-shell-extension-prefs | 09:59 |
| murmel | , which gives you a software called extensions in the menu (or cli gnome-extensions-app) | 09:59 |
| tomreyn | noelgrandin: i think i know the effect you mean, but i don't actually see it on a mostly fresh 22.04 LTS installation. what are you running there, and did you upgrade? | 10:00 |
| noelgrandin | tomreyn, I am running stock Ubuntu, completely up to date, and using an application called Codelite. Every time I open a file in codelite (via the command line), the Codelite icon in the dock will shake until I select that window | 10:02 |
| tomreyn | which stock ubuntu version are you running? | 10:02 |
| noelgrandin | murmel, gnome-shell-extension-prefs does not have any settings for the dock (other than disable) | 10:02 |
| noelgrandin | tomreyn, 22.04.1 | 10:03 |
| murmel | oO | 10:03 |
| tomreyn | this seems to be an effect introduced by dash-to-dock https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/r3c4lg/stop_the_dock_icons_from_shaking_please/ | 10:04 |
| tomreyn | The "Ubuntu Dock" extension is a fork of dash-to-dock | 10:07 |
| noelgrandin | tomreyn, no fixes there for me :-( I have logged a new issue. I just want the damn thing to go away. | 10:07 |
| lotuspsychje | all available tweaks can be found in dconf-editor | 10:07 |
| lotuspsychje | just not sure that notify shake can be disabled | 10:08 |
| noelgrandin | but thanks for the suggestions everybody | 10:08 |
| tomreyn | noelgrandin: if you upgraded, maybe try this with a new user account. as i mentioned, the effect you describe does not occur on the unmodified 22.04 installation i have here (running in a VM). | 10:12 |
| noelgrandin | tomreyn, this was a clean installation | 10:13 |
| noelgrandin | you possibly can't see it because most applications will steal focus when you open something in them from the command line. So I have an unusual setup in that regard | 10:15 |
| tomreyn | noelgrandin: i just got confirmation that it's by default, i probably just wasn't able to trigger it. | 10:16 |
| lotuspsychje | noelgrandin: if you dont like how the ubuntu dock behaves, you could try plank as alternate | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | !info plank | noelgrandin | 10:21 |
| ubottu | noelgrandin: plank (0.11.89-4, jammy): Elegant, simple, clean dock. In component universe, is optional. Built by plank. Size 99 kB / 475 kB | 10:21 |
| arkanoid | "launch statup disk creator" accrepts ubuntu iso, but not windows iso ... lol | 10:21 |
| lotuspsychje | arkanoid: try woeusb or ventoy for win iso's on ubuntu | 10:22 |
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| Cursarion | Hi, I've got a fresh install of 22.04.1 (running xfce now), and "Software & Updates" doesn't work. If I try to change a checkbox or a dropdown option, it just immediately reverts to the previous option. It also complains about "The information about available software is out-of-date". Can this be because I installed the default flavor and then xfce/xubuntu after that, or what's going on? | 10:33 |
| tomreyn | Cursarion: does it also happen on the "Ubuntu" session (gnome-shell)? | 10:35 |
| Cursarion | tomreyn: dunno, I don't even get the option to use GNOME atm. I remember seeing an option for enabling a chooser or whatever, somewhere deep in the settings, but either I didn't enable it or it doesn't work. | 10:43 |
| Cursarion | in case it matters, it's xubuntu-core, not xubuntu-desktop | 10:48 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: if you install several flavour ontop each other you can get a mixed frankenubuntu system where packages & settings mix up | 10:55 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: good for testing purposes, but some combos will have side effects on using or purge | 10:55 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: maybe try a reinstall of software-properties-gtk and see what kind of depends it wants to drag? | 10:58 |
| Cursarion | apturl nautilus-share software-properties-gtk ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop-minimal | 10:59 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: so you purged ubuntu-desktop? | 10:59 |
| Cursarion | I did not | 11:00 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: apt policy ubuntu-desktop | 11:01 |
| Cursarion | Installed: 1.481 | 11:02 |
| lotuspsychje | ok tnx | 11:02 |
| Cursarion | I tried running software-properties-gtk from terminal, and it worked like before, but there was output: ERROR:root:Authentication canceled, changes have not been saved | 11:03 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: maybe xfce doesnt like software-properties-gtk then | 11:03 |
| lotuspsychje | been too long ago for myself since ive tested xubuntu | 11:03 |
| Cursarion | it worked a while ago in a previous setup that ran 18.04 or so | 11:04 |
| Cursarion | does xfce have a replacement for it? | 11:04 |
| * guiverc has both xubuntu-desktop & ubuntu-desktpo installed without issues, but has not tried xubuntu-core (I experienced fewer issues with everything so got lazy & thus get all desktops) | 11:04 | |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: can you give us more info of your working 18.04 xubuntu-core setup, how did you install set it up to your wishes? | 11:05 |
| guiverc | Cursarion, when adding different desktops; what works on one release (eg. 18.04) may not be the same if it's a different release install (eg. 22.04 or 20.04) | 11:05 |
| Cursarion | lotuspsychje: it may've been xubuntu-desktop, and I installed it a couple of years ago so I sadly don't remember the exact details of what I did | 11:07 |
| Cursarion | guiverc: yep, evidently | 11:07 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: ok, then tell us your end goal? a minimal fast xubuntu based system? | 11:07 |
| Cursarion | lotuspsychje: yeah, I suppose. At first I wanted to give a shot to GNOME, but I guess I don't really like it now either. | 11:09 |
| Cursarion | so I should just purge GNOME? | 11:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: what we usualy advice to users, when they tested/liked an ubuntu flavour, is just clean install that flavour instead of mixing up | 11:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: unless you want a combine of different flavours for daily use? | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychje | !flavours | 11:10 |
| ubottu | Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: what i would do, is install xubuntu 22.04 clean, then trim it down to your own needs | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: but if you dont wanna start over, i would go the way guiverc did it, install xubuntu-desktop | 11:12 |
| lotuspsychje | and keep in mind, purging packages on mixed flavours 'can' have side effects | 11:13 |
| Cursarion | alright, thanks. Looks like running it with sudo helps, so apparently something's messed up in authentication, so maybe I'll live with this and consider the fresh install option if other issues appear. | 11:17 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: be carefull with running GUI packages with sudo, thats not meant to be | 11:18 |
| tomreyn | running a desktop with sudo is probably a bad idea. and could also mess up the other one. | 11:18 |
| lotuspsychje | some settings software & updates admin pass is needed indeed | 11:18 |
| lotuspsychje | https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/ | 11:20 |
| lotuspsychje | seems like xubuntu-core is a working minimal desktop | 11:20 |
| lotuspsychje | but that might not have software & updates GUI by default | 11:21 |
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| tomreyn | also there is no more mini.iso | 11:22 |
| Cursarion | tomreyn: I ran `sudo software-properties-gtk`, not a desktop, but yeah. | 11:26 |
| Cursarion | I figure there should be a pop-up that handles authentication, but none appears. Maybe installing xubuntu-desktop would help. Could as well try it before a clean install. | 11:27 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: software-properties-gtk is prob part of ubuntu-desktop(gnome) asking your admin pass | 11:28 |
| tomreyn | i think the elevated permissions required for such actions are usuaully granted through policykit, not sudo | 11:28 |
| lotuspsychje | Cursarion: maybe its good to go talk to the #xubuntu guys, what handles the repos there GUI | 11:29 |
| tomreyn | i would also guess that xubuntu-desktop makes this work (at least when installed while no other xfce/xfwm components are installed, yet). | 11:29 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc: do you know whats the software & updates alternate on xubuntu? | 11:30 |
| Unit193 | software-properties-gtk is in Xubuntu too. `seeded-in-ubuntu software-properties-gtk` | 11:32 |
| guiverc | sorry lotuspsychje , I thought it was the same ; https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/xubuntu-desktop shows gnome-software as depends... (I can't look on this box given I have xubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-mate... | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | kk tnx Unit193 guiverc | 11:32 |
| Unit193 | Needs the -b switch, whoops | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | so he would need ubuntu-desktop to make it working right | 11:32 |
| lotuspsychje | xubuntu-desktop sorry | 11:32 |
| Unit193 | That's a metapackage, it's not required for anything. | 11:33 |
| Unit193 | If you want to use software-properties-gtk but it's not installed, install it? | 11:33 |
| lotuspsychje | he got it installed | 11:34 |
| lotuspsychje | but he wants to use xubuntu-core | 11:34 |
| Unit193 | That's just a subset of the normal desktop, sooo... | 11:36 |
| lotuspsychje | ok great! i think you got all the info you need now Cursarion let us know if you run into new mysterys :p | 11:39 |
| Cursarion | lotuspsychje: thanks. I probably will : d | 11:56 |
| toabctl | michacassola, the build scripts for the OCI tarballs are in livecd-rootfs. see https://git.launchpad.net/livecd-rootfs/tree/live-build/functions#n919 for the most relevant function | 11:56 |
| toabctl | michacassola, the tarballs are build with launchpad. See https://launchpad.net/~cloud-images-release-managers/+oci-recipes | 12:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:07 |
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| pycurious | how do i add a line at the end of visudo using a shell command? | 13:01 |
| pycurious | I want to test if there is a line with ubuntu or not, and if not append a line to the file | 13:02 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: i'm not sure what you're asking. you want to add a blank line to the end of the visudo script? visudo is actually a binary file, so this is probably not going to do whatever you are trying to achieve (but are not telling us). | 13:10 |
| jbwncster | Anyone know how to get the iSight drivers/firmware? | 13:10 |
| jbwncster | Or can point me to a link | 13:11 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: or are you referring to some other file which you edit using the visudo command? | 13:11 |
| JornS | I've got an issue on a box with two nic's, one with a public ip and one private ip. Both are configured for static ip's using netplan, but the internal one only replies to pings form the same subnet - assuming I'll need to add routing manually? config similar to this one (just sanitized the ips) https://pastebin.com/x8s8k9g4 | 13:12 |
| tomreyn | jbwncster: this is old, but might still apply https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleiSight | 13:13 |
| pikapika | does anyone know firefox | 13:13 |
| pikapika | how do you force firefox to load icons of bookmarks | 13:13 |
| JornS | if I remove the enp12s0 config, enp1s0 works and replies just fine | 13:13 |
| jbwncster | Also need to figure out why my Logitech k380 pairs but won’t connect | 13:14 |
| jbwncster | But I just updated the Bluetooth drivers so I’ll try again | 13:14 |
| pikapika | jb are you trying to run ubuntu on mac | 13:14 |
| jbwncster | tomreyn: thanks | 13:14 |
| jbwncster | pikapika: I have ubuntu mate on my old 2008 MacBook | 13:15 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, have people managed to reverse engineer it enough that everything important works? | 13:15 |
| jbwncster | So far | 13:15 |
| jbwncster | It’s Broadcom wifi which is easy | 13:15 |
| jbwncster | The Ethernet port works, my docking station is displaylink and works | 13:16 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, does apple suffer from same model number, luck of the draw chipset issue? | 13:16 |
| jbwncster | Eventually I need to replace the top case and keyboard because some keys are broken | 13:16 |
| pikapika | It seems model numbers are very unreliable to understand whats inside soemthing | 13:16 |
| jbwncster | pikapika: I don’t know. It’s an intel based model | 13:16 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, where is the on switch | 13:17 |
| pikapika | is it near the hinge | 13:17 |
| pycurious | tomreyn: I want to automate what I do in visudo manually using a script | 13:17 |
| pycurious | I want to add a sudo user - that does not need to enter a password | 13:17 |
| jbwncster | This is what I have https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook-core-2-duo-2.4-white-13-early-2008-penryn-specs.html | 13:17 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, when the on button is placed near or above parts of the hinge mechanism it seems it starts to have mechanical issues with time | 13:18 |
| jbwncster | I haven’t seen anything else wrong with it besides the keyboard | 13:19 |
| pikapika | its an old model so at least the exhaust vents probably are to the side | 13:19 |
| jbwncster | The trackpad still works | 13:19 |
| jbwncster | The vents are at the hinge | 13:19 |
| NeverNick | Hey guys, I want to add a route to my face via nmcli. However when i do so, and check with "ip r" its not there and doesn't work nmcli con show, lists ipv4.routes and IP4.ROUTE[i] the latter do work but I can't seem to address it via nmcli. | 13:19 |
| jbwncster | Like all macs | 13:19 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, oh i see | 13:19 |
| pikapika | yeah | 13:19 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: if your goal is to change the sudo configuration in an automated way, i'd suggest using some of the common software deployment tools, such as ansible, puppet, salt stack etc. | 13:19 |
| pikapika | I find that scary | 13:20 |
| jbwncster | I’m just waiting on the upgrade from focal whatever to jelly whatever | 13:20 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, are the vents at the back or in front (blowing air right up the screen) | 13:20 |
| pikapika | the latter is nasty | 13:20 |
| jbwncster | Back | 13:20 |
| pikapika | thank god | 13:21 |
| pikapika | on some models vents are in front | 13:21 |
| jbwncster | I try to use a laptop riser anyhow | 13:21 |
| jbwncster | Because it puts out a lot of heat | 13:21 |
| jbwncster | But at least there’s no heat issues with Linux so far | 13:21 |
| pikapika | I don't have a mac but I kinda fucked out on my new laptop purchase | 13:21 |
| pikapika | It has that stupid vent design thing | 13:22 |
| pikapika | no doubt copied from apple, lots of companies just blindly copy apple trends without looking at context or whether the decisions were right in the first place or not | 13:22 |
| tomreyn | JornS: yes, this sounds like you want to add a static route. i suggest asking in #netplan or #ubuntu-server | 13:23 |
| jbwncster | I think more laptops need more vents | 13:23 |
| JornS | thanks, I'll try #netplan :) | 13:23 |
| jbwncster | Not enough in any laptop | 13:23 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, yes | 13:23 |
| pikapika | Nobody fucking asked for "thin" laptops packed tighter than sardines | 13:23 |
| jbwncster | Also they probably put in the cheapest fans ever | 13:23 |
| pikapika | I want big and airy laptops | 13:24 |
| jbwncster | I do not want a 17 inch laptop though | 13:24 |
| tomreyn | pikapika: please keep the language family friendly in here, and move off-topic chat elsewhere, such as #ubuntu-offtopic - thanks! | 13:24 |
| korra | Is this the Ubuntu official support channel? | 13:24 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, I'd gladly lug a 25kg laptop if it had a big enought battery and was airy enough to stay cool | 13:24 |
| pikapika | tomreyn, sorry | 13:24 |
| tomreyn | korra: it is | 13:24 |
| pikapika | jbwncster, would you like to go to #ubuntu-offtopic | 13:24 |
| tomreyn | korra: see also the channel /topic | 13:25 |
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| takumi | hello | 13:31 |
| cbreak | pikapika: just use an external power source. I have one of these: https://us.ecoflow.com/products/river-max-portable-power-station | 13:31 |
| pikapika | how long does this power a small desktop | 13:31 |
| pikapika | oh wait | 13:32 |
| cbreak | depends on which one you buy | 13:32 |
| pikapika | lug laptops and carry the battery right | 13:32 |
| pikapika | yeah that would be better | 13:32 |
| pikapika | desktop might be a bit annoying to set up and tear down | 13:32 |
| cbreak | the one I have has 576 Wh capacity | 13:32 |
| cbreak | it's more efficient if you make it output power over USB-C than using the DC-AC converter | 13:33 |
| cbreak | anyway, this is independent from ubuntu, so... :D | 13:33 |
| pikapika | my laptop does not have usb charging | 13:34 |
| pikapika | i think | 13:34 |
| pikapika | at least not officialy that i know | 13:34 |
| cbreak | :/ | 13:34 |
| Md | is there a way to NOT install the ubuntu-server package with the new automatic installer? | 13:36 |
| cbreak | Md: don't know about the new installer, but if you go via debootstrap, then you can install everything at any granularity you want :/ | 13:37 |
| Md | the new installer does not use debootstrap | 13:39 |
| Guest20 | Last time I used ubuntu, the screen was upside down on my machine logging into the live ISO. Is there a keyboard shortcut to rotate the screen by 180 degrees? | 13:39 |
| Guest20 | I also have read reports of oomd-systemd being a tyrant about when it kills applications. Was there a change in 22.04.1 or will I have to disable it manually? | 13:51 |
| wez | 12 | 14:07 |
| m_tadeu | hi....with iptables having no rules, what can make a port show as filtered in nmap? | 14:14 |
| WOWElectronics | Good morning from WV, USA. How do I install wxPython-4.2.0 on aarch64, I've the src tarball on site already | 14:31 |
| francesco | hi | 14:39 |
| Md | I have in user-data autoinstall: // kernel: // package: linux-image-virtual, but linux-generic is still being installed. why? | 14:39 |
| tomreyn | WOWElectronics: ubuntu provides fixed versions of packages per ubuntu release. newer ubuntu releases often provide newer software versions. | 14:40 |
| tomreyn | WOWElectronics: you can manually build software, of course. software usually comes with build instructions. | 14:41 |
| WOWElectronics | I need >4.? for pronterface | 14:41 |
| arraybolt3[m] | WOWElectronics: Unless you for sure need newer software, stick to the software provided in Ubuntu. If you must have newer software, do NOT use "make install" to install it, this will break your system. Build it, then run the resulting binaries from right where they're at. And also, Python is playing with fire - if you somehow accidentally install it into the core of your system, your whole system may blow up. | 14:42 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I'd highly recommend doing anything with newer versions of Python inside a virtual machine so that if it goes wrong you have a way to recover. | 14:42 |
| WOWElectronics | I found the build script, and I've a venv setup | 14:42 |
| ioria | WOWElectronics, you know pronterface is already available in the repo, right ? | 14:44 |
| WOWElectronics | yes, but it needs wxPython >4. and won't run w/o it | 14:45 |
| gordonjcp | arraybolt3[m]: or a docker container | 14:47 |
| ioria | WOWElectronics, afaict, it depends on python3-wxgtk4.0 (4.0.7); are you suggesting is it not working for you ? | 14:47 |
| ioria | or what ? | 14:48 |
| samy1028c | WOWElectronics: if you try "sudo apt update; sudo apt install pronterface;" what is it saying it's trying to do? Is it complaining about missing packages? | 14:48 |
| WOWElectronics | no, not until run it | 14:49 |
| ioria | WOWElectronics, what's your ubuntu release ? cat /etc/issue | 14:50 |
| WOWElectronics | Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS \n \l on a rock64 running armbian | 14:51 |
| WOWElectronics | shows in the xfce4 menu but nothing happens when selected | 14:52 |
| ioria | WOWElectronics, dpkg -l | grep pronterface | 14:53 |
| vladiboi | ?? | 14:53 |
| WOWElectronics | ii pronterface 2.0.0~rc7-1build1 all Graphical 3D printer host | 14:54 |
| ioria | WOWElectronics, ok, what happens if you start it from terminal ? | 14:55 |
| WOWElectronics | do you want the whole trace, its around 20 lines | 14:56 |
| ioria | yes | 14:57 |
| ioria | WOWElectronics, pipe to | nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:58 |
| WOWElectronics | and its the same with or w/o the venv | 14:58 |
| ioria | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/printrun/+bug/1975947 | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1975947 in printrun (Ubuntu) "pronterface does not start in jammy" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 14:58 |
| ioria | better w/o WOWElectronics | 15:00 |
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| ioria | we'll see if it's the same output of the bug report | 15:01 |
| WOWElectronics | didja get it? | 15:02 |
| ioria | nope | 15:02 |
| ioria | paste here the url | 15:03 |
| WOWElectronics | i looked at the bug report, looks the same | 15:04 |
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| WOWElectronics | limited by the fact I'm on the rock64 atm. | 15:05 |
| ioria | probably (not sure) the problem it's python3.10; see if you can install in virtual env another python version and use it | 15:05 |
| WOWElectronics | Thats what is available ack the package manager | 15:06 |
| ADV | Hey everyone, I'm looking for some guidance on doing a custom PAM authentication that passes back an error message and displays this message on the GDM login screen. I have the PAM stack working as intended but can't seem to find documentation indicating if passing a message back to the GDM login page to be displayed to the user is possible. Any | 15:09 |
| ADV | assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! | 15:09 |
| WOWElectronics | let me go generate an error file and put it on my web page, back shorty I hope | 15:12 |
| Guest95 | am I in the correct place to ask a few questions | 15:17 |
| tomreyn | Guest95: if those refer to ubuntu support, yes | 15:18 |
| Guest95 | I just dual booted Linux Mint with a bad experience, IE Simple things like I could only choose 100 or 200% scale for my X360 Envy with 4500U. Do you think my experience would be any better with Ubuntu ? Model 2S897EA#ABU | 15:21 |
| enigma9o7[m] | You want "franctional scaling" | 15:21 |
| enigma9o7[m] | hmmm no actually fractional | 15:22 |
| Guest95 | Also would the touch screen likely work | 15:22 |
| Guest95 | I want to be able to select 150% | 15:22 |
| WOWElectronics | error file at <genesliniuxbox.net:6309/armhf/> | 15:23 |
| WOWElectronics | correction error file at <geneslinuxbox.net:6309/armhf/> | 15:23 |
| Guest95 | 1920x1080 150% scaling is what I would need to make this a better experience | 15:24 |
| ogra | !mint | Guest95 | 15:25 |
| ubottu | Guest95: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ | 15:25 |
| Guest95 | Did you read the question ? | 15:25 |
| OpenSource | No | 15:26 |
| ogra | Guest95, yes, and how woul we know the answer ? | 15:26 |
| OpenSource | They just saw 'mint' and instantly did a bot factoid. | 15:26 |
| ogra | Guest95, i have never run linuxmint | 15:26 |
| OpenSource | Obviously they didn't read your question. | 15:26 |
| OpenSource | Try it, you may have luck. | 15:26 |
| OpenSource | You won't know until you try. | 15:26 |
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| ogra | OpenSource, i did read the qustion very well ... but "is a better than b" isnt helpful if nobody knows "a" | 15:27 |
| OpenSource | ogra: you still didn't read his questino. | 15:27 |
| Guest95 | I am asking a simple question. 2S897EA#ABU do you support 150% scaling | 15:27 |
| OpenSource | ogra: no you didn't. | 15:27 |
| OpenSource | You're being obnoxious. Stop it. | 15:27 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Guest95, I think gnome can do it, it does have a setting for fractional scaling, then givs you option for 150% | 15:27 |
| Guest95 | Ok thanks for the info, gret help | 15:28 |
| ogra | OpenSource, the question was: "Do you think my experience would be any better with Ubuntu ?" | 15:28 |
| WOWElectronics | if its a python-3.10 problem, this is not the only app busted by it, linuxcnc has been a victim too. | 15:28 |
| Guest95 | great* | 15:28 |
| enigma9o7[m] | If I were you i'd liveboot and change that seting and see if it works for you and your touchpad too | 15:28 |
| enigma9o7[m] | i mean touchscreen | 15:28 |
| OpenSource | ogra: And your answer was, !mint | 15:29 |
| Guest95 | Even better idea | 15:29 |
| OpenSource | So clearly, you didn't read it the first time around, and just did a factoid. | 15:29 |
| Guest95 | Cheers enigma9o7[m] | 15:29 |
| OpenSource | As the only logical answer to it is, we don't know, try it. Or maybe someoen does have the hardware with Ubuntu and it works. | 15:29 |
| Guest95 | OpenSource what is your deal dude | 15:29 |
| OpenSource | It was never a question of whether X is better than Y. You're just covering for the fact that you didn't read, mistakenly did a bot factoid, got called out, and now instead of saying, yeah, you're right, you're doubling down and arguing more. | 15:31 |
| OpenSource | I'm gonna go work. Have a gooday. | 15:31 |
| WOWElectronics | can you see the error file now? | 15:34 |
| tomreyn | WOWElectronics: a link to a webserver should include the url scheme, such as http or https - don't be surprised if no one accesses it otherwise. | 15:37 |
| tomreyn | i think you wanted to point to http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/armhf/ | 15:38 |
| tomreyn | WOWElectronics: are you running Ubuntu in a VM on this, or in a chroot? | 15:38 |
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| Guest50 | Yes it does indeed allow me to select 150% scaling and the touch screen seems to work perfectly so I will carry on with the install. best regards... | 16:09 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Great. | 16:12 |
| Bardon_ | Hello, can I modify the ubuntu 22.04 server iso to disable casper-md5check? | 16:16 |
| Bardon_ | Because I'm trying to boot from that iso remotely. I instructed my server to boot from that iso which I have locally. The issue is that my connection is really poor so uploading 1,5 GB is very long | 16:17 |
| Bardon_ | the start job has been running for 4h | 16:17 |
| Bardon_ | So, if I disable it, it probably won't have to upload the whole iso | 16:17 |
| tomreyn | Bardon_: hit escape | 16:18 |
| sm_ | Hey guys | 16:18 |
| sm_ | I wanted help ricing my computer | 16:18 |
| sm_ | my terminal | 16:18 |
| Bardon_ | Oh really I could stop it from the beginning?? | 16:18 |
| tomreyn | Bardon_: i hope i'm not mixing it up with the desktop installer. | 16:19 |
| Bardon_ | I hit escape but it's not responding. Might be because of the network.. | 16:19 |
| pagios- | hi guys, route add 1.1.1.1 dev en0 on a given host, means this host will Blindly forward packets coming from 1.1.1.1 to en0 right? | 16:19 |
| sm_ | I have this colorscript caalled pokecolorscript | 16:19 |
| Bardon_ | tomreyn: If I type in letters, are they supposed to show on screen? Because I'm not seeing any | 16:20 |
| sm_ | And I want to comibine the graphics of that script with the information of neofetch | 16:20 |
| WOWElectronics | correction error file at <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/armhf/> | 16:20 |
| tomreyn | Bardon_: depends on where you are in the boot process. but they are probably not meant to show, no. | 16:20 |
| sm_ | Can anyone see me? | 16:21 |
| tomreyn | sm_: we can see you fine | 16:21 |
| WOWElectronics | can you see the error file now? | 16:21 |
| ADV | Hey everyone, I'm looking for some help with understanding how the GDM login screen interacts with PAM modules. To be a little more specific, I have a custom PAM stack that is authenticating users however I was hoping there would be a way to pass feedback back to the user and display this feedback on the GDM login screen. For example, if the PAM | 16:21 |
| ADV | auth fails it would pass a message back to the user indicating why the failure occurred. Thanks! | 16:21 |
| sm_ | Thanks. my client shows me a bit greyed out | 16:21 |
| Bardon_ | tomreyn: Ok, thanks. So I can't see any letters and escape doesn't seem to stop that job. I'll just wait | 16:22 |
| enigma9o7[m] | sm, you can pipe it probably. like `neofetch|lolcat` | 16:22 |
| Bardon_ | Otherwise I'll try again from somewhere else with a better connection | 16:22 |
| Bardon_ | Thanks | 16:22 |
| sm_ | Anyway, I want to combine to colorscripts in a cohesive matter. Is there a place I can get some guidance doing that | 16:22 |
| tomreyn | Bardon_: if it's a systemd job then you won't be able to stop it. you may be able to skip it by making grub pass extra parameters to linux / initrd | 16:23 |
| tomreyn | Bardon_: note there is also #ubuntu-server | 16:23 |
| sm_ | Any ideas? | 16:23 |
| tomreyn | sm_: if you're looking for help with some software on ubuntu, it would be good to start by explaining which ubuntu version you run and which software you're looking for help with | 16:24 |
| sm_ | It's not an ubuntu software per se | 16:26 |
| sm_ | It's a shell script for the terminal | 16:26 |
| sm_ | I'm sure you are familir with neofetch | 16:26 |
| tomreyn | sm_: a good place to lok for help with shell scripting can be the channel of said shell. if you're running bash, try #bash | 16:27 |
| SoCkEt7 | Do you know how to setup tor with ubuntu and XChat ? | 16:27 |
| SoCkEt7 | my localhost:9051 is up and running | 16:27 |
| dudels | Please guide me to the correct channel for help after upgrade from 20.04.05 TO 22.04.1 -- No graphics, only term session | 16:48 |
| enigma9o7[m] | You've found it. | 16:48 |
| dudels | enigma9o7(m):Ok, are you able to assist, or guide me on what I should post here so that someone can nudge me in the right direction. I'm not sure how to begin. | 16:53 |
| ogra | start with being more verbose and detailed 🙂 | 16:54 |
| ogra | you ran "do-release-upgrade" on 20.04 ? and your upgrade was successfull ? did it have any errors, if so, what exact errors etc etc | 16:54 |
| tomreyn | dudels: it would help to describe how you upgraded, whether there were warnings or error messages during or before/after the upgrade, which graphics card and computer is this, which graphics driver? did you have unsupported software sources (PPAs, other APT repositories) or software from such installed when you started the upgrade? | 16:57 |
| dudels | OKfine :) I'm currently logged in to what appears to be a terminal session. The upgrade appears partially successful, states 22.04.1 but did not go directly to a graphical environment. I had to ctrl+alt+F2 to get a login screen. Upgrade was offered after I ran Ubuntu updates | 16:58 |
| Zetr071 | Greetings fellow ubuntu'ers? | 16:58 |
| dudels | tomreyn: Thanks..will add more info shortly | 16:59 |
| dudels | Upgrade DID show some errors, but unfortunately, I did not take notes. CPU = AMD Ryzen7 with Radeon graphics embedded. May have additional repository related to the AMD graphics, sorry cannot recall. The most obvious warning was indeed related to AMDGPU? | 17:02 |
| dudels | tomreyn: BTW, I'm running this IRC window from another PC, not the Ubuntu PC | 17:03 |
| tomreyn | dudels: can you ssh to the computer that didn't upgrade cleanly? | 17:04 |
| tomreyn | (does it have an ssh server installed and running) | 17:04 |
| dudels | possibly, but I'm a novice on ssh connections and may have firewalls in place to prevent? | 17:05 |
| tomreyn | dudels: not by default, if it's in the same network | 17:05 |
| tomreyn | dudels: i'm just asking about ssh to make it more convenient for you, though, not having to swap keyboard and monitors | 17:06 |
| tomreyn | dudels: and not having to duplicate output from the other system here | 17:06 |
| tomreyn | well, not manually anyways | 17:06 |
| dudels | tomreyn: I don't mind trying...give me a moment | 17:06 |
| dudels | tomreyn: Connection refused... guessing either ssh server not active, or port 22 blocked? | 17:09 |
| tomreyn | dudels: there will be no ssh server installed if this is a standard desktop installation. | 17:10 |
| tomreyn | dudels: so maybe we start with just typing some commands and when this gets too annoying we can install the ssh server later, | 17:10 |
| dudels | tomreyn: Network working, so I just installed openssh | 17:11 |
| tomreyn | using apt, i assume? | 17:11 |
| dudels | tomreyn: yes, "sudo apt install openssh-server".... when complete i have error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error cod (1)" | 17:13 |
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| tomreyn | dudels: i assume this error message is incomplete | 17:14 |
| tomreyn | dudels: start with sudo apt-get update | 17:14 |
| dudels | tomreyn: I also see an error above that "Errors were encountered while processing: libgl1-amdgpu-mesa-dri:i386" | 17:14 |
| tomreyn | dudels: there's no package by this name in ubuntu | 17:16 |
| tomreyn | dudels: i suspect this file may be part of the proprietary amdgpu-pro driver overlay, downloaded from amd.com ? | 17:17 |
| dudels | Tried update as one of the first actions after session login... a pagefull of info I couldn't put here | 17:17 |
| dudels | tomreyn: likely so | 17:17 |
| tomreyn | dudels: i recommend against using this driver, if you can | 17:18 |
| tomreyn | dudels: it is not supported here, but i think you can uninstall it using sudo /usr/bin/amdgpu-uninstall | 17:18 |
| dudels | OK will try the uninstall. FYI, i did establish an ssh session! | 17:19 |
| tomreyn | good, this will make it easier. here's another tip: use termbin to share output, example: lsb_release -ds |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:20 |
| tomreyn | ...to share the output of command lsb_release -ds | 17:21 |
| dudels | tomreyn: "sudo: /usr/bin/admgpu-uninstall: command not found" | 17:27 |
| EriC^^ | ^ there's a type amdgpu | 17:28 |
| tomreyn | dudels: it was worth a try. so let's see what apt-get update says, use termbin for the output | 17:28 |
| tomreyn | dudels: oh, right, as EriC^^ pointed out, fix the typo | 17:28 |
| dudels | tomreyn: ah.. I see... sec, I'll try with typo fixed | 17:29 |
| dudels | tomreyn: Appeared to be successful, but some errors. Sorry, forgot the termbin on that. Should I attempt a reboot to see if I can get graphics now? | 17:32 |
| Zetr071 | not sure where to ask, but I seem to have a problem with "xubuntu" and bluetooth device connecting and then disconnecting instantly anyone be able to point me in a direction? | 17:36 |
| ADV | Can a Pluggable Authentication Module pass feedback to the Gnome display manager? | 17:44 |
| tomreyn | dudels: i'd want to see if we can fix apt, yet, but you can also try that afterwards. | 17:46 |
| dudels | tomreyn: OK, what's the next specific command I should attempt? | 17:47 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> dudels: [..] let's see what apt-get update says, use termbin for the output | 17:48 |
| tomreyn | sudo apt-get update |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:48 |
| dudels | tomreyn: command applied. Do you need the next line as output? | 17:50 |
| tomreyn | dudels: it should have printed a http address you could now post here to share the output | 17:50 |
| dudels | tomreyn: My apologies. My ignorance abounds. "https://termbin.com/o7m73" | 17:52 |
| tomreyn | dudels: no worries, you're just learning how this works. ;) | 17:52 |
| tomreyn | dudels: now: sudo apt-get -fys install |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:53 |
| dudels | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/1yk1 | 17:54 |
| tomreyn | dudels: sudo apt-get -f install | 17:55 |
| tomreyn | dudels: no need for termbin this time | 17:55 |
| dudels | tomreyn: last line after command completed "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." | 17:57 |
| tomreyn | dudels: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove | 17:57 |
| tomreyn | dudels: then, if no errors: sudo apt-get -syV dist-upgrade |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:58 |
| dudels | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/japm | 18:00 |
| tomreyn | dudels: apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:00 |
| tomreyn | dudels: by the way, you may want to configure the ssh server you installed to only start when you request it (using "systemctl start ssh") by using: sudo systemctl disable ssh | 18:02 |
| tomreyn | it will then keep running until next reboot only | 18:03 |
| dudels | tomreyn: Thanks, will do regarding ssh. https://termbin.com/qrch | 18:04 |
| tomreyn | dudels: had you already rebooted after the release upgrade? | 18:04 |
| tomreyn | if so, it should be safe to do it again now | 18:04 |
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| dudels | tomreyn: Yes, I did a reboot after, but it was manual after upgrade seemed to fail. | 18:05 |
| tomreyn | dudels: you should probably purge amdgpu-install before you reboot | 18:06 |
| tomreyn | sudo apt purge amdgpu-install | 18:06 |
| dudels | tomreyn: Success! I have graphics! | 18:06 |
| tomreyn | dudels: good, i would think you are now using the free but accelerated amdgpu graphics driver (without the proprietary overlay) | 18:07 |
| tomreyn | you can verify this in settings -> about or with cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:08 |
| dudels | tomreyn: "sudo apt purge amdgpu-install" successfully removed | 18:09 |
| tomreyn | dudels: https://termbin.com/qrch was the output of command apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' - this command tells you which packages you have installed which are not available from any of the configured apt repositories. so these are usually old packages from before the upgrade, or packages installed from third party software sources - software sources which are no longer configured and may not be comptaible to this ubuntu | 18:11 |
| tomreyn | release. | 18:11 |
| tomreyn | dudels: it's usually a good idea to 'apt purge <package> <otherpackage ...>' these unless you know you need to keep them, in this very version, and without a chance to get updates. | 18:12 |
| dudels | tomreyn: results from gpu-manager.log "https://termbin.com/058c", How do I know if I'm using free amdgpu graphics? | 18:16 |
| Diana | good evening | 18:17 |
| Diana | I have a problem with this UBUNTU operating mode, where can I get help? | 18:17 |
| Praxis | I appear to be having some massive network issue, and I have no idea where it came from. None of my web interfaces like cockpit will respond, and I don't seem to be able to ssh in, unless I use the ip adrress, restarting avahi did let me use the hostname, but I'm not even sure what logs to look at to trace this issue | 18:18 |
| Minvera | have you cheecked journalctl? | 18:19 |
| tomreyn | dudels: from the latest termbin: "Is amdgpu pro stack? no" | 18:19 |
| Diana | can someone help me too | 18:20 |
| Praxis | Minvera don't I need some arg to show me the relevant info? | 18:20 |
| tomreyn | dudels: in combination with "Is amdgpu loaded? yes" | 18:20 |
| tomreyn | Diana: hi, this is the right place to get help with the Ubuntu operating system. what's your question? | 18:21 |
| dudels | tomreyn: Many thanks! Unless you have additional advice, I'll say thanks again and very much appreciated with the assistance! | 18:21 |
| Minvera | Praxis, you can start with `journalctl -b` | 18:21 |
| tomreyn | dudels: i think we're done there. have fun. | 18:22 |
| ADV | Would a GDM/PAM question not be appropriate to post here? | 18:22 |
| Praxis | Minvera alright | 18:23 |
| Praxis | Minvera thanks | 18:23 |
| tomreyn | ADV: it's fine to ask here, but you won't get a reply if there's no one around who knows the answer to your question. you could also ask in #linux or in gnome related irc channels / networks or support forae | 18:23 |
| Diana | tomreyn it's not exactly a question, but just that I'm kind of new to this system, I've been using windows until now, and I don't even understand him | 18:23 |
| Diana | I would be more interested in the configurations of this system | 18:24 |
| jhutchins | Diana: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? | 18:24 |
| tomreyn | Diana: well, you said you have a problem, care to describe it more? also, if you know which ubuntu version you have, this can help us help you. | 18:24 |
| ADV | tomreyn: Thanks for the response - I've been in the #gnome channel with zero luck. Thanks for the advice on the #linux channel. | 18:25 |
| tomreyn | ADV: you could also try to find some documentation online, but... that's rather limited for anything gnome* sadly | 18:25 |
| Diana | jhutchins that's because I looked on the internet, I saw some things to do in the terminal, but when I put those things in, it either gave me an error or failed | 18:26 |
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| ADV | tomreyn: Yeah that's what I've discovered - I try to avoid IRC until it's a last resort. Thanks for the acknowledgment! | 18:27 |
| Diana | tomreyn if you can tell me where to enter to see the version it would be wonderful | 18:27 |
| tomreyn | Diana: what always works is to open a "Terminal" window and type: lsb_release -ds | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | Diana: But you could probably also open "Settings" and then go to "About" | 18:29 |
| rfm | ADV, PAM though used to have pretty good API docs. As I remember, the only "feedback" from PAM modules is the return codes saying to reject/continue etc, and the callbacks for conversation prompts I | 18:29 |
| ADV | rfm: I think you're correct - this is exactly what I've run into. | 18:30 |
| Diana | tomreyn Ubuntu 19.04 I think that would be right? | 18:30 |
| tomreyn | Diana: oh, that's a very old Ubuntu release from 4 years ago. And it is no longer supported. | 18:31 |
| tomreyn | Diana: I mean three years ago, 2019 | 18:32 |
| rfm | ADV, the PAM interface was specifically designed to be pretty restrictive, so modules would be easily portable,,, | 18:32 |
| tomreyn | Diana: you can try updating this to a supported ubuntu version ("release") but when it's so outdated it's usually better to do a fresh installation (after backing up your data). | 18:33 |
| ADV | rfm: Understood. Was hoping their was a way but sounds like there isn't so we will move on. Thanks! | 18:33 |
| * saltd backing up your data | 18:33 | |
| Diana | tomreyn : well how could i do that? | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | Diana: which of the two? | 18:35 |
| Diana | tomreyn : let me reinstall it for example | 18:36 |
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| tomreyn | Diana: You can download Ubuntu Desktop 22.04.1 LTS from https://ubuntu.com/desktop and follow the instructions at https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop to install it | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | you will need a usb stick or disk for this | 18:39 |
| tomreyn | Diana: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR explains a way to backup your data | 18:40 |
| tomreyn | !backup | Diana | 18:42 |
| ubottu | Diana: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning | 18:42 |
| Bardon_ | tomreyn: Thanks for the channel recommendation, I didn't know it | 18:45 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 18:46 |
| Praxis | Minvera looking over these logs, I don't see anything relevant. it's all just boot stuff | 18:50 |
| Diana | tomreyn : thank you for the help | 18:52 |
| tomreyn | Diana: you're welcome - do you think it can work out for you? | 18:56 |
| supercool1 | hello | 18:56 |
| tomreyn | welcome to Ubuntu support, supercool1 | 18:56 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: so this network issue, is it on a LAN, or between your computer and a remote computer, also managed by you? | 18:58 |
| supercool1 | I am trying to fsck my disk from a grub boot, advanced options, root access IN a VirtualBox Ubuntu host with the classic recovering journal erros as: https://askubuntu.com/questions/924170/error-on-ubuntu-boot-up-recovering-journal | 18:59 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: and which of these runs Ubuntu? | 18:59 |
| supercool1 | And I am guetting a /dev/sda3 is mounted error | 18:59 |
| supercool1 | As e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting | 19:00 |
| user546 | Hello | 19:00 |
| supercool1 | I am using the command sudo fsck -f / | 19:00 |
| supercool1 | Any ideas please? | 19:00 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: mount -o remount,ro / && e2fsck /dev/sda3 | 19:01 |
| user546 | not a clue | 19:01 |
| tomreyn | hello user546 | 19:02 |
| supercool1 | As I could understand this error is caused from a nvidia drive | 19:02 |
| user546 | hi | 19:02 |
| supercool1 | And I would need to kind of check my disk for any eventual disk error | 19:02 |
| kucklehadenough | This is a guess, you're checking root and are wanting to repair root while root is mounted? | 19:03 |
| supercool1 | I just installed this Ubuntu | 19:03 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Is it a spinning HDD or SSD? | 19:03 |
| supercool1 | SSD | 19:03 |
| elias_a | supercool1: I'd run a complete check on the SSD if you have a new installation and your data is backed up elsewhere. | 19:04 |
| kucklehadenough | If you're wanting to fix your machine, chroot and then run fsck on it | 19:04 |
| supercool1 | And it is not ANY ssd, it is a pcie m.2 ssd | 19:04 |
| supercool1 | kucklehadenough: I don´t think it a priviledge issue here. It´s more like I am trying to fix a mounted (in use) disk | 19:05 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: it IS surprising that this newly installed ubuntu system is already having file system issues that are beyond automatically repairable. | 19:05 |
| supercool1 | What I can do is restart from CD/DVD and then try to run it | 19:05 |
| Praxis | tomreyn the server runs ubuntu server 22.04.1, it's connected with a SFPD 10gig LAN with a fixed IP, the network is run on unifi, the remote computer is a mac | 19:06 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: you got it! | 19:06 |
| elias_a | supercool1: I'd still boot from live USB or the like and test the partitions on the SSD and also run a SMART test on the device. | 19:06 |
| elias_a | supercool1: That's the spirit! | 19:06 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: yeah, I think i´ll not be able to do any different from that. | 19:07 |
| kucklehadenough | Has nothing to do with that. I would chroot the whole system from a live usb and run tests and see what's wrong | 19:07 |
| supercool1 | kucklehadenough: you sounds like a noob here | 19:08 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: you seem to be into networking. have you run ping tests, yet? are you able to communicate with the remote at all? is there both ipv4 and ipv6 addressing in your LAN? | 19:08 |
| supercool1 | I apreciate all your support guys! | 19:08 |
| kucklehadenough | Hey now, I am not the one with the busted system lol | 19:08 |
| supercool1 | kucklehadenough: are you trying to hit my nerv? | 19:09 |
| Praxis | tomreyn yeah, ping is normal from both the server and the laptop, and yes there's ipv6, but all the networking in the LAN is standard 0.0.0.0 addresses | 19:09 |
| jhutchins | supercool1: Leave the attitude behind. | 19:10 |
| Praxis | tomreyn so it I try to ssh into the server using the host name it will hang and do nothing. then if I restart avahi it logs in | 19:10 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: okay, i'm asking about ipv4 / ipv6 becuase you mentioned that you could connect fine if you directly access the ip(4) address, whereas it did not work well with the hostname, i believe. | 19:10 |
| Praxis | tomreyn that's correct | 19:11 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: so the easiest test would be to add -4 to the ssh command | 19:11 |
| tomreyn | ...still connecting to the hostname | 19:11 |
| Praxis | tomreyn that did nothing | 19:12 |
| Praxis | tomreyn like ssh hostname.local -4 | 19:12 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: so it's more likely a dns issue | 19:12 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: oh .local? bad idea. | 19:12 |
| Praxis | tomreyn how so? | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | thats unless it's on purpose? | 19:13 |
| kucklehadenough | Are they sshing tunneling? | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: are you using .local for MDSN? | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | *MDNS | 19:13 |
| Praxis | tomreyn I'm not familiar with that | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: do you use avahi on ubuntu to make all systems in the LAN aware what it's hostname is? | 19:14 |
| Praxis | tomreyn yes | 19:14 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: and you do not use a central dns server at the same time? | 19:15 |
| Praxis | tomreyn i'm pretty sure that my DNS is handled by my router. Isn't that normal? | 19:16 |
| rjwiii | Ubuntu 20.04. Gnome extensions (ex "burn my windows") won't install or upgrade. I get the red ERROR button. Says I have to upgrade to gnome-browser-connector v6 ... ??? | 19:17 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: it is a common setup to have a home router act as a central resolver (recursive nameserver / dns server) for the LAN. with such setups you should not use a .local top level domain to address resources in your LAN, though. | 19:17 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local | 19:17 |
| Praxis | tomreyn something like a pi-hole? I don't have that set up yet | 19:18 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: in short, the .local top level domain is to be used for the specific purpose of announcing "hey everyone, i am going to have the hostname blah.local and my ip address is ..." to all other devices in the LAN. | 19:18 |
| Praxis | tomreyn that sounds about right. I'm not trying to keep anything on my internal network out of the loop | 19:19 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: if you have multiple devices announce their own name resolution to the LAN then this can easily contradict with the information the central resolver on the router will hand out. | 19:20 |
| Praxis | tomreyn That's weird, because I have had up to 3 servers running and it was never an issue, but right now I only have this one | 19:21 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: so if you don't have .local set as the local domain name in your router, then you can be fine with this setup, having multiple ways to address systems on the LAN. | 19:21 |
| tomreyn | but you should not tell the router that it serves something on the .local domain | 19:21 |
| tomreyn | anywys, this may be a separate issue to the one you're dealing with | 19:22 |
| Praxis | tomreyn Yeah I'll have to read up on that | 19:22 |
| tomreyn | rjwiii: is this extension compatible to your version of gnome-shell? | 19:23 |
| Praxis | right now I'm not getting any pages to resolve at all, and my PMS is down. So I can't go to hostname.local:9090 or 10.0.0.10:9090 | 19:23 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: what's PMS? | 19:24 |
| Praxis | plexmediaserver | 19:24 |
| Praxis | sorry | 19:24 |
| rjwiii | tomreyn: I had it installed. Went to upgrade it and got an error. Deleted it and tried to re-install. Got the error again. | 19:24 |
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| rjwiii | tomreyn: Says need to upgrade to gnome-browser-connector v6. searched apt-cache and found nothing. | 19:25 |
| tomreyn | rjwiii: whether or not an extension is compatible can be seen on the installation page. you need to match the gnome versions provided there (on the drop-down) with that of your installed gnome-shell package version (apt list --installed gnome-shell) | 19:26 |
| supercool1 | I´ve used lsblk command to show me the list of disks | 19:26 |
| supercool1 | and it appears sda (1, 2, 3) | 19:27 |
| supercool1 | How do I point the fsck command to that disk, in which partition should I use it in case of journal corruption? | 19:28 |
| tomreyn | rjwiii: maybe try a different web browser or the gnome-extensions-app (this is a command you can run when the corresponding package, gnome-shell-extensions-tool, is installed) | 19:28 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: i don't think we can support this software here, but if you cannot connect to your ubuntu ssh server, we can try to help with that. | 19:29 |
| supercool1 | sda3 is the one compaling from grub boot and by the size is the filesystem disk | 19:29 |
| Praxis | tomreyn that's fine, I'm not here for plex support, I have a networking issue | 19:29 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: you can use the resolvectl command to examine how host names are resolved. you can pass it a hostname as a parameter. | 19:30 |
| rjwiii | tomreyn: E: Unable to locate package gnome-shell-extensions-tool | 19:30 |
| supercool1 | now I use sudo fsck -f sda/sda3 and kind of nothing happens | 19:31 |
| Praxis | tomreyn could you show me an example? | 19:31 |
| supercool1 | I was expecting someting telling me to wait | 19:31 |
| supercool1 | Could someone help me please? | 19:32 |
| supercool1 | Can I ask a question here please? | 19:32 |
| tomreyn | rjwiii: sorry, it's nome-shell-extension-prefs | 19:32 |
| tomreyn | rjwiii: sorry, it's gnome-shell-extension-prefs | 19:32 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: resolvectl thatothercomputer.local | 19:33 |
| supercool1 | Whrer do I pay for getting your help? | 19:33 |
| tomreyn | !patience | supercool1 | 19:33 |
| ubottu | supercool1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 19:33 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: alright | 19:33 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: there is also commercial support available if you need that. THIS is mostly community (self-help) support. | 19:34 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: great, I will grab a chair | 19:34 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: if you share the command you ran and the output it produced, on a pastebin or image posting board, this help you get support. | 19:35 |
| rjwiii | tomreyn: seems that is installed already ... version 3.36.9 ... I selected that version from the list and it had me download a zip file ... not install instructions ... | 19:36 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: that´s the point, there were no output | 19:36 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: here's what i psted a long time ago, when you were in the recovery shell: <tomreyn> supercool1: mount -o remount,ro / && e2fsck /dev/sda3 | 19:37 |
| supercool1 | or that was.. well | 19:37 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: but it's indeed better to repair your / (root file system) from a separate system | 19:37 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: that was a bit different situation | 19:37 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: so i'd recommend doing what elias suggested: <elias_a> supercool1: I'd still boot from live USB or the like and test the partitions on the SSD and also run a SMART test on the device. | 19:38 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: thats what I am doing | 19:38 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: I am currently running Ubuntu live cd | 19:39 |
| tomreyn | rjwiii: generally speaking, gnome-shell extensions are a way to make your desktop unstable. sometimes they don't make it unstable and instead add or modify features in the way you want it or not. | 19:39 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: trying to fsck the issued disk | 19:39 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: SO I did lit the disks available from the command sudo lsblk | 19:40 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: good, have you identified the partition which contains your normal / file system, yet? | 19:40 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: I am guessing the /sda/sda3 is the filesystem partition by the size of it | 19:41 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: I run the command sudo sfck -f /sad/sda3 and kind of nothing happens | 19:41 |
| tobi | speaking of gnome shell extensions... I maintain gnome-shell-extension-autohidetopbar in Debian and upstream got a bug reported that the package is no longer available in 22.04 ... Is there a way to find out the reason for the removal? | 19:42 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: if you are running an ubuntu live / installer system then the command "sudo sfck -f /sad/sda3 " would probably return an error saying that this command does not exist. | 19:43 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: to be precise the following like get on the output fsck from util-linux 2.37.2 | 19:43 |
| tomreyn | you probably meant to run something along the lines of "sudo fsck /dev/sda3" | 19:43 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: sorry, my bad, I meant fsck | 19:43 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: as -f? | 19:44 |
| murmel | tobi: would it work on gnome42? | 19:44 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: you probably mean -f to e2fsck | 19:45 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: it *could* have worked already | 19:46 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: we would know if you would share both the exact commands you ran and the outputs they produced, on a pastebin or image board. | 19:46 |
| supercool1 | Because, it is a fresh install and my disk quite fast | 19:46 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: there is an easy way to share the output of a command: you just append this to the command: |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:47 |
| tomreyn | this then prints a url you can share here for the output, so you only need to report that and the command you ran | 19:47 |
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| Praxis | tomreyn resolvectl retuned "unknonwn command verb hostname.local" | 19:49 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/urlr7 | 19:52 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: sorry, i meant: resolvectl query hostname.local | 19:52 |
| Praxis | oh thank you | 19:53 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: but maybe share the output of just "resolvectl" first | 19:53 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: you seem to have copied this incorrectly | 19:53 |
| rjwiii | tomreyn: Thanks ... got it working ... | 19:54 |
| Praxis | tomreyn ok, pastebin? | 19:54 |
| tomreyn | !paste | Praxis | 19:54 |
| ubottu | Praxis: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 19:54 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: err, https://termbin.com/ulr7 | 19:55 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: you can also use resolvectl |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:55 |
| Praxis | https://termbin.com/1twm | 19:56 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: okay, this either ran longer than a few seconds, so it didn't end up on termbin, or it succeeded without error. you can use sudo e2fsck -Fv /dev/sda3 instead - it may provide more output | 19:58 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: if you want to also share lsblk, we can double check that you're running it against the right file system | 19:58 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: mDNS seems to be disabled on all interfaces, so this system would not be able to resolve hostnames that way, i guess. | 19:59 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: ok | 20:00 |
| Praxis | tomreyn is that normal? Like would that have be the default when installing the OS? | 20:00 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: the only (central) resolver known is the one at 10.0.0.1 which is contacted via enp130s0f0 | 20:00 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: i think it's a default setup. | 20:01 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Sorry - had to go out with my dog for a moment. So now you have booted from live DVD and are running the OS? | 20:01 |
| Praxis | tomreyn ok, so if it's default what changed since yesterday? | 20:01 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/qjzb (sudo lsblk command) | 20:01 |
| Praxis | tomreyn and how do I fix it? | 20:02 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: yes, tomreyn is helping me here. If you want to assume his position it is between you guys.. | 20:02 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Ok. I'll crawl to the back row. :) | 20:03 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: so now you can use resolvectl query thatsshhostname and share its output | 20:04 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: and i don't know what changed since yesterday, i don't watch your network. ;-) | 20:04 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/cdpc (e2fsck command) | 20:04 |
| Praxis | tomreyn I know, rhetorical | 20:04 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: it seems like /dev/sda3 was probably the right partition | 20:05 |
| Praxis | tomreyn https://termbin.com/ytvq | 20:05 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: which command did you run that gave this output? "open: No such file or directory while opening sda/sda3 for flushing" | 20:05 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: cool | 20:05 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: sudo e2fsck -Fv sda/sda3 | 20:06 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: the upper case "F" parameter was my mistake, it should be lower case "f". i don't knwo where you got "sda/sda3" from | 20:07 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: run: sudo e2fsck -fv /dev/sda3 | 20:08 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: from the lsblk command | 20:08 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: actually run: sudo e2fsck -fv /dev/sda3 ; echo $? | 20:08 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: i see what you mean about the lsblk command giving you misleading output. | 20:09 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: block devices are usually found in /dev/ - you will notice both sda and sda3 are listed there, | 20:10 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/oeil | 20:11 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: which command did you run? | 20:11 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: e2fsck -fv sda/sda3; echo $? | 20:12 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: compare this to the command i suggested to run | 20:12 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: why do you keep typing sda/sda3? | 20:13 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: it's getting comedic | 20:13 |
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| elias_a | Now let us not mock beginners... | 20:13 |
| tomreyn | yes, it's most likely not intentional. | 20:14 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: youŕ right | 20:14 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: e2fsck -fv dev/sda3; echo $? | 20:14 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: better, not right | 20:15 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/96hg | 20:15 |
| EriC^^ | this has nothing to do with computers, and anyways just pointing out the comedy of it, no mocking intended | 20:15 |
| Praxis | tomreyn any insight you can offer? | 20:15 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: /dev/sda3 ( there's a "/" before dev ) | 20:15 |
| tomreyn | elias_a, EriC^^: maybe one of you can take over supercool1 for a minute? | 20:15 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: sorry, i missed your reply. | 20:17 |
| Praxis | tomreyn it's all good | 20:17 |
| Praxis | tomreyn do you need me to repost? | 20:18 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: your output shows that conflicting (?) ip address resolutions have been reported for this hostname | 20:18 |
| elias_a | tomreyn: Sure! Np. | 20:19 |
| Praxis | tomreyn that would explain the behavior but what would cause that? | 20:19 |
| Praxis | tomreyn Like is this a router issue? or something in the networking in ubuntu? | 20:19 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: https://termbin.com/ytvq says that via link enp130s0f0 the hostname "xeon.local" was resolved as 10.0.0.10 (IPv4) and fe80::2e27:d7ff:fe4f:7088%3 (IPv6+scope), whereas via the virbr0 interface, it was resolved as 192.168.122.1 (IPv4) | 20:20 |
| elias_a | supercool1: e2fsck -fv /dev/sda3; echo $ would be the command we are looking for here. | 20:20 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: so this system is getting different responses via different links. | 20:20 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: and which one will be used will be chosen at random (more or less), so it will occasionally work and other times not | 20:21 |
| Praxis | tomreyn virbr0 is a virtual bridge right? because I don't have any need for that... | 20:22 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: or rather, you will be connecting to any *one* of these ip addresses, and not everyone of them may be having an ssh server listeining on them | 20:22 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: it's just a name, but yes, it commonly refers to an interface connecting to a virtual network bridge | 20:23 |
| Praxis | tomreyn how would I just disable that? | 20:24 |
| Praxis | tomreyn I didn't even set that up... | 20:24 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: just don't use a .local domain name for resources on your LAN and you should be fine | 20:24 |
| Praxis | tomreyn um, that doesn't solve my problem at all, because NONE of my services resolve under the IP address | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: the bridge is probably part of some virtualization software you have installed, such as libvirt + qemu or virtualbox or gnome-boxes, or it could be some containerization system, such as docker, lxd etc. | 20:26 |
| Praxis | I don't use any virtualization right now. | 20:27 |
| Praxis | tomreyn I used to use qemu, and I'd like to have VM's again, but this issue has taken down my whole server | 20:27 |
| tomreyn | Praxis: sorry, i'm afraid i have to pause here, i'm going to need to have some food. if you need a quick temporary workaround you can place a fixed name resolution in /etc/hosts | 20:28 |
| tomreyn | elias_a: thanks | 20:30 |
| tomreyn | supercool1: if you need more support with this, please talk to elias_a for now | 20:30 |
| Praxis | tomreyn alright, i'll google that | 20:31 |
| supercool1 | tomreyn: thank you a lot for the support. | 20:34 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: sorry, today things are running fast here. I will be running the command is a bit. | 20:34 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Now I did not quite understand what you mean but let's just move along. :) | 20:36 |
| elias_a | supercool1: e2fsck -fv /dev/sda3; echo $ would be the command we are looking for here. | 20:36 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: lol | 20:40 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: do you need the termbin part of the command as well? | 20:40 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Preferably, yes so that I can see what is happening. :) | 20:41 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: I think that makes it easy to figure the output instead of me trying to copy/paste the entire thing here, right? | 20:41 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: alright | 20:41 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: just a sec | 20:41 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Exactly. :) | 20:41 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: : https://termbin.com/zb7u | 20:43 |
| elias_a | Just a dollar sign as output? | 20:44 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: weird | 20:47 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: here I got plently of lines | 20:47 |
| tobi | murmel: yes, it works with gnome 42 | 20:49 |
| elias_a | supercool1: If termbin does not work correctly, could you use https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ ? | 20:49 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: sure | 20:50 |
| elias_a | Paste the command and the output. | 20:50 |
| murmel | tobi: hm, then no idea, as sadly ubuntu doesn't have tracker like debian | 20:50 |
| tobi | murmel: is there some mailing list about package removals? | 20:51 |
| tobi | (some place to look if/why packages got removed) | 20:51 |
| tobi | something like this https://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt | 20:52 |
| murmel | tobi: not 100% sure but I assume it's in development lists or automatic notification lists | 20:53 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jkrnxtfrjY/ | 20:56 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: seems there was no erros, right? | 20:57 |
| elias_a | supercool1: I don't see any errors. :O | 20:58 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Now run e2fsck respectively to all partitions and look for errors. | 21:00 |
| murmel | can somebody verify that rmadison works on your end? waiting for 5 mins already for a query :S | 21:01 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: how do I run for all partitions? Using just /dev/sda ? | 21:01 |
| elias_a | supercool1: No /dev/sdaX where X is the number of the partition. | 21:03 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/fFszYptWDr/ | 21:04 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Was it an SSD connected to PCI bus? | 21:05 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: elias_a I think the output for sda2 was the same as sda1 | 21:05 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: yep | 21:05 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: anyway, sda1 and sda2 contain no filesystem | 21:06 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: perhaps it got solved | 21:07 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: from trial an error | 21:07 |
| elias_a | supercool1: IMHO it is likely that for some reason you have managed to skip the creating of file systems while installing. | 21:07 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: I think this is time for a reboot | 21:07 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Do that. If it does not help, try simply reinstalling if it is a new system. | 21:08 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: I got the fist boot from it. It was running all right for five entire minutes | 21:08 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: I already tryed. I think this one will be the tenth time I install Ubuntu on VB | 21:09 |
| elias_a | supercool1: This hints there could be a problem with either your HW or software handling the PCI chipset and bus. | 21:09 |
| elias_a | supercool1: VB? | 21:10 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: first I tought the issue was with my computer, but now I already run it from 5 different machines ant it is always the same issue | 21:10 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: yes, VirtualBox | 21:11 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Why did you not say that in the first place? :D | 21:12 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: I did | 21:12 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: perhaps was for tomreyn | 21:12 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: :P | 21:12 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: perhaps you haven´t seen this url as well https://askubuntu.com/questions/924170/error-on-ubuntu-boot-up-recovering-journal | 21:14 |
| elias_a | supercool1: What are the host and guest OSs in your case? | 21:16 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: host ubuntu guest windows 11 | 21:17 |
| elias_a | supercool1: If your host is Ubuntu and you have a Windows 11 guest, what do you mean by saying you are installing Ubuntu _on_ VirtualBox? | 21:19 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: is it the other way arround? | 21:20 |
| elias_a | supercool1: What is the first OS your computer boots? | 21:21 |
| elias_a | I mean: what is the OS runnning Virtualbox? | 21:21 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: Windows 11 | 21:22 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: that thing is completing normal, ubuntu always displays that | 21:22 |
| elias_a | supercool1: Ok. I am out of answers now. Reason: I simply do not use Windows as a host OS. Ever. Always as a guest and even then without a network connection. :) | 21:23 |
| elias_a | tomreyn and other helpful fellows out there, please help supercool1 . I have to go to bed now. Quite late here already... :) | 21:24 |
| elias_a | supercool1: I hope you solve the problem. :) | 21:25 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: that msg about fsck is normal, is that the issue or something else is going on? | 21:25 |
| supercool1 | elias_a: thank you for the support! | 21:26 |
| elias_a | supercool1: You are welcome. :) | 21:27 |
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| supercool1 | EriC^^: I am running Ubuntu as a client on a VirtualBox host running Windows 11. | 21:28 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: There is thie error from boot like recovering journal | 21:29 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: everything started as a disk space failure, restart and boom | 21:29 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: that's not an error, if it says clean, ......blabla it's just a normal fsck at bootup | 21:29 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: it is not clean. I think somehow the disk gets full and there is no space to write this journal and there is no boot anymore | 21:30 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: what happens when you try to boot now? | 21:31 |
| maxMcLion3 | just out of interest, what was the problem? | 21:45 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: I just figured a way to boot. I did boot from grub, advanced options and ask for free some space. | 21:45 |
| EriC^^ | great supercool1 | 21:46 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: now I am inside Ubuntu but still instable and throwing messages of lack of disk space | 21:46 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: yeah, at least one step ahead | 21:47 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: type 'sudo apt-get clean' | 21:47 |
| EriC^^ | then try sudo apt-get autoremove --purge | 21:47 |
| maxMcLion3 | one way is to extend virtual disk of ubuntu. | 21:48 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: still need to use apt-get? Not just apt ? | 21:48 |
| EriC^^ | yeah that's an excellent idea | 21:48 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: both work | 21:48 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: could you run 'sudo du -sh /* | nc termbin.com 9999' ? | 21:49 |
| supercool1 | I will try to install GuestAdditions as well (if I can remeber that was not a good idea) | 21:49 |
| EriC^^ | it should give an idea where most of the space is, if there's some type of issue in the logs like a repeating error it could eat up space | 21:49 |
| maxMcLion3 | and also extend linux partition, but for that usually is needed to boot live cd, and i use gparted. | 21:50 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: this is a server install? | 21:50 |
| EriC^^ | or gui? | 21:50 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: gui | 21:50 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: ah, i think it's probably too little space for it, maybe add 6-10gb | 21:51 |
| EriC^^ | it's 9.5gb right now | 21:51 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: Wow.. I was about to tell you I did give it 10Gb | 21:52 |
| EriC^^ | you mean recently you added 10gb? | 21:52 |
| maxMcLion3 | for last ubuntu with gui, 10GB is well too low space to live | 21:52 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: the thing is this a fresh install | 21:53 |
| EriC^^ | even so, i installed ubuntu i think 2-3 days ago and just checked, it's eating 15gb right now, though i did install some apps | 21:53 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: I will resintall it with a bigger disk then. Hope this is the issue | 21:53 |
| EriC^^ | probably 10gb it barely just fits | 21:53 |
| EriC^^ | supercool1: you can extend the disk space without reinstalling | 21:54 |
| genii | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements | 21:54 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: exaclty | 21:54 |
| genii | 25G stated there | 21:54 |
| EriC^^ | you have to extend it from virtualbox, then boot into ubuntu, it'll appear as a larger disk then you'll need to extend the partition+fs | 21:54 |
| supercool1 | EriC^^: the disk is a image from VirtualBox in this case | 21:54 |
| EriC^^ | if it's a fresh install though i'd just reinstall using a better disk, now that i think of it more | 21:55 |
| maxMcLion3 | I reccomend atleast 20gb, depends on use, and when you give it 30-40 it does not matter if disk type is dyamiccly allocated, it will just eat up space as it grows | 21:55 |
| supercool1 | maxMcLion3: Wow.. lots of space | 21:55 |
| supercool1 | I did change the .vdi file for 100Gb on Virtual Media Manager | 21:57 |
| maxMcLion3 | supercool1 you may try to extend partition or reinstall ubuntu, because additional space by itself ubuntu wont be able to use | 21:58 |
| supercool1 | maxMcLion3: yes, that is what I though. I solved the Host size issue, not the client. | 21:59 |
| maxMcLion3 | you may just run ubuntu installer, and chose "try ubuntu". after that you may find program gparted, it is really user friendly, and shows you partitions in your disk. | 22:00 |
| supercool1 | maxMcLion3: well I thank you but I will just restart the process. Nowadays with those pcie ssds it is a pleasure to install a new OS. | 22:01 |
| supercool1 | see.. fresh install ready! | 22:01 |
| maxMcLion3 | and if ubuntu is fresh :) just can reinstall it :D | 22:01 |
| supercool1 | Now, lets see if the problem persists | 22:02 |
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| supercool1 | Not talking to you PaleBlueDot | 22:05 |
| maxMcLion3 | supercool1 so did it work? | 22:06 |
| supercool1 | maxMcLion3: so far I think so | 22:06 |
| supercool1 | maxMcLion3: you are not the Lion guy which used to be present at VirtualBox channel on freenode bt any chance? | 22:07 |
| maxMcLion3 | supercool1 nope, just randomly person searching for resolving my bugs, while forgotting to logout of irc | 22:08 |
| supercool1 | maxMcLion3: alright | 22:10 |
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| OpenSource | PaleBlueDot: this channel is for ubuntu support | 22:47 |
| OpenSource | PaleBlueDot: you can share linux podcasts in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-social etc. | 22:47 |
| OpenSource | !offtopic | 22:47 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 22:47 |
| PaleBlueDot | im already in IRC offtopic | 22:48 |
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| Guest47 | 22.04 had working firefox in X11 mode on live-usb but after installing to disk, choosing the minimal program option, firefox only launches with wayland environment variable. KiCAD which also runs xwayland is not able to draw a window either. No errors, just a invisible window which have graphical artifacts when dragging other windows over it. | 23:32 |
| Guest47 | No errors in terminal. | 23:32 |
| Guest47 | maybe intel i915 dri drivers are proprietary | 23:34 |
| Guest47 | or maybe I need libwayland-egl1-mesa or something | 23:36 |
| Guest47 | I will try xorg session | 23:54 |
| Guest47 | Now firefox and kicad runs in xorg | 23:56 |
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