[05:44] <didrocks> good morning
[05:54] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[05:57] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[06:08] <ricotz> hello duflu & didrocks 
[06:14] <didrocks> morning ricotz 
[06:17] <duflu> Hi ricotz 
[06:24] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:48] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:58] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and seb128 
[07:01] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, hey duflu 
[07:03] <didrocks> salut seb128, oSoMoN 
[07:06] <seb128> hey duflu, lut oSoMoN, didrocks. How are you? Had a nice weekend?
[07:09] <didrocks> busy, but good, and you?
[07:12] <jibel> Hi all
[07:14] <duflu> seb128, yeah busy and doing well.
[07:14] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[07:14] <duflu> Back in a while...
[07:14] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks & jibel 
[07:14] <oSoMoN> seb128, very good week-end, and busy too
[07:15] <seb128> didrocks, not so busy here, and temperature went down so it was enjoyable :)
[07:17] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:19] <seb128> lut jibel 
[08:17]  * medicalwei wondering how to ping vanvugt and I would like to propose a fix to LP#1984147
[08:20] <medicalwei> (which seems to be upstreamable, btw...)
[08:23] <luna__> hey
[08:24] <duflu> medicalwei, I am vanvugt (for historical reasons this is me on IRC)
[08:24] <medicalwei> duflu: Ah. So the fix should be first on Upstream or first on LP?
[08:25] <duflu> medicalwei, propose it to upstream first and wait a day or two for them to find obvious mistakes. But no need to wait for it to land upstream, you can propose a patch to LP after that
[08:26] <duflu> Don't do both at once or else you will waste time fixing two separate locations if upstream find problems
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[08:27] <duflu> medicalwei, gitlab.gnome is super slow for me today too. It's not just you
[08:28] <duflu> At least it's alive. It goes down far too often
[08:28] <medicalwei> duflu: okay, at least it's making progress xD
[08:29] <medicalwei> duflu: should I also set bug status and assign it to... me?
[08:29] <medicalwei> (on LP i mean)
[08:29] <duflu> medicalwei, yes
[08:50] <luis220413> What would it take to the Desktop Team to agree to own these 5 packages?
[08:51] <luis220413> The MIRs for them are bug 1986592, bug 1987446, bug 1987447, bug 1987448 and bug 1987571.
[08:57] <seb128> luis220413, hey, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/desktop/8 would probably be a better place to have a discussion than IRC
[08:57] <seb128> I personally don't know enough about the package and protocol to reply here/now
[09:56] <luis220413> There are several protocols involved. I also filed a bug to get these packages preinstalled (bug 1987706).
[10:18] <KGB-0> gnome-online-accounts ubuntu/master ddef903 Sebastien Bacher debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * https://deb.li/3pNGj
[10:18] <KGB-0> remove 0001-ubuntu-sso-provider.patch, it was added for gnome-software
[10:18] <KGB-0> snap integration but isn't used anymore,
[10:18] <KGB-0> update the packaging accordingly
[10:19] <KGB-0> gnome-online-accounts ubuntu/master 1e9e25d Sebastien Bacher debian/changelog * upload to ubuntu * https://deb.li/ijKjR
[10:30] <luis220413> seb128: How can I create a new topic in the Desktop category?
[10:35] <seb128> luis220413, you should have a "new topic" in the top bar, next to bell icon. Unless for some reason discourse restrict posting. Is your account new, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/limiting-brand-new-user-accounts 
[10:35] <luis220413> Yes, I created it today.
[10:36] <seb128> ^ suggests you might have to use a bit discourse, like read pages and browse, to be able to contribute
[12:32] <jbicha_> good morning
[12:46] <luis220413> Good morning and thanks for commenting on my MIR bugs?
[12:46] <luis220413> Do you know what it would take for the Desktop team to agree to own NetworkManager-openconnect and its 4 dependencies in universe?
[12:46] <luis220413> *bugs!
[12:55] <jbicha> luis220413: the desktop team is going to have to do more discussion about it. If you can post the request on discourse, that would help
[13:08] <luis220413> jbicha: I can only post it as a reply until I reach trust level 1.
[13:24] <jbicha> I guess you need to spend more time reading posts while logged in to get Level 1
[13:25] <seb128> jbicha, I upgraded a system from J to K and it failed on /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/actions/document-modified-symbolic.svg being included by ghex and gnome-text-editor, just as a FYI
[13:25] <seb128> ghex isn't installed by default so a minor issue
[13:26] <jbicha> I'm guessing it's a side effect of adwaita-icon-theme aggressively dropping "legacy" icons
[13:27] <seb128> :-(
[13:27] <jbicha> it's still an RC bug but I need to check with the upstreams on how they want to handle it
[13:30] <luis220413> I now have trust level 1 and will post my proposal soon.
[13:31] <seb128> luis220413, great
[14:10] <luis220413> jbicha, seb12: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/what-it-would-take-for-the-desktop-team-to-agree-to-own-networkmanager-openconnect-and-its-dependencies/30278
[14:10] <luis220413> *seb128
[14:26] <jbicha> thank you
[14:30] <ogra> heh, you put a whole paragraph into the heading 😛
[14:45] <KGB-0> orca pristine-tar f6b4f74 Samuel Thibault orca_43~beta.orig.tar.xz.delta orca_43~beta.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for orca_43~beta.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/G2W2
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[15:42] <KGB-0> orca tags 924c332 Samuel Thibault upstream/43_beta * Upstream version 43~beta * https://deb.li/3ZPcg
[15:44] <lolek> ok, a question, how do I force gnome to reload desktop files? I modified a firefox.desktop but somehow gnome-shell is constantly using some older version. I have only one firefox.desktop in the system, any ideas?
[15:53] <oSoMoN> lolek, where is that file located?
[15:55] <lolek> /usr/share/applications... it seems restarting gnome shell works but I thought there's much better solution
[15:58] <jbicha> lolek: maybe run  update-desktop-database
[16:02] <lolek> The databases in ... could not be updated
[16:02] <lolek> ok..sudo
[16:02] <lolek> will try net time once I modify the desktop file
[16:05] <oSoMoN> I'm pretty sure gnome-shell should be monitoring desktop files under $XDG_DATA_DIRS, maybe Trevinho can confirm?
[16:12] <jbicha> yes, I don't think update-desktop-database should be required
[16:13] <lolek> maybe the timeout is long
[16:13] <lolek> no idea
[16:13] <lolek> restarting gnome-shell of course works but yeah well
[16:13] <lolek> anyway thank you for ideas!
[16:14] <ogra> also /usr/share/applications is not a place you should ever edit files in ... they will be overwritten anyway ... 
[16:14] <ogra> (not to mention that firefox in 22.04 does not put a desktop file in there anymore but puts it into the snap specific dir )
[19:24] <KGB-0> gnome-initial-setup signed tags 4edfe06 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/43_beta-0ubuntu1 * gnome-initial-setup Debian release 43~beta-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/UKDR