 Anyone testing 22.10? How’s it holding up?
 Kubuntu 22.04 just can’t change password
 Root password
 It’s impossible
 I’ve tried sudo passwd root
 It says successful after everything but doesn’t change password
 Who else can try?
 just sudo passwd should work
 Sudo passwd without root?
 It doesn’t work
 Who else has 22.04
 To give it a try, maybe it’s a bug
[04:22] <enigma9o7[m]> that is changing password for username root
[04:22] <enigma9o7[m]> so its only  useful if you login as root, which you shouldnt do
[04:22] <enigma9o7[m]> so not sure what you're tryiing to accomplish
[04:22] <enigma9o7[m]> if you want to change your own password, just passwd
[04:22] <enigma9o7[m]> if you are a sudoer, you can use your own password when prompted
[04:23] <enigma9o7[m]> there is not a seperate root password unless you have a root account, which  ubuntu doesnt create by default
 All I’m trying to say is
 Whenever I try to change my password, it says successful, but doesn’t actually change
 Be it root or no root
[04:29] <enigma9o7[m]> Weird.
[04:30] <oerheks> it becomes valid after logout/login again
[04:30] <oerheks> ?
 Yes
 The old password just restores
 Even after saying successfully changed
 No one?
[06:11] <alkisg> trevantee is this a normal kubuntu installation, or something weird like usb stick with persistence?
 I used a usb stick (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> trevantee is this a normal kubuntu installation, or something weird like usb stick with persistence?)
 also
 any way to solve this?
 1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree... Done
 Reading state information... Done
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 That update is currently 'phasing'
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates
 how do i fix?
 It will resolve itself soon. If you want to force the update you would try sudo apt install ubuntu-advantage-tools
 It will resolve itself soon. If you want to force the update you could try sudo apt install ubuntu-advantage-tools
 or i can leave it no problem?
 Would be fine to leave it. At some point it will just update ok
 alright thanks
 one more thing, is plasma 5.25 cool to update to?
 Up to you. You get new features, but you may get new bugs. So depends on your priorities
 allright
 Obviously ,
 1) its floating panel
 2)  and its color scheme 😊 (re @trevantee: one more thing, is plasma 5.25 cool to update to?)
 But it isn’t lts yet tho (re @milesdredd: Obviously ,
 1) its floating panel
 2)  and its color scheme 😊)
 And the gesture thing doesn’t work
 But the Wi-Fi shows exclamation despite its working and this bothering (re @milesdredd: Obviously ,
 1) its floating panel
 2)  and its color scheme 😊)
[12:24] <user|60> Hello, I am using kubuntu, but it does not change from English to Korean. (Ctrl+space bar)
[12:24] <user|60> What should I do
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:52] <R13ose> I'm using LAMP and trying to log into the localhost myphpadmin but forgot the username and password.  How do I find them out?
 hi
[16:28] <R13ose> hi
[16:43] <drfritze> I installed kUbuntu 22.04 along side Win10 on my current Dell.  When I did that on an old HP. I got a dual boot.  This time it goes straight to Windows.  How do I get the dual bott?
[16:46] <drfritze> dual boot
[16:50] <cbreak> drfritze: make your efi use grub instead of the windows bootloader
[16:52] <drfritze> cbreak, I'll try it. Thnaks.
[17:18] <drfritze> cbreak, I added a boot sequence to bios pointing to EFI/grubx64.eci. It went straight to Linux.  As it stands I have to edit BIOS to choose the system.  On the HP, there was a little menu where the first choice was Ubuntu and the last was Windows.
[17:23] <cbreak> drfritze: if your grub is set to wait before booting, and is configured for dual-boot, it should do that
[17:23] <cbreak> otherwise, you can use a boot chooser like refind
[17:27] <drfritze> I'm a novice at this part. How do I set grub to wait before booting and configure is for dual-boot?
[17:27] <drfritze> cbreak, I'm a novice at this part. How do I set grub to wait before booting and configure is for dual-boot?
[17:32] <cbreak> not sure about the dual boot
[17:33] <cbreak> you can change the way grub boots by editing /etc/defaults/grub
[17:33] <cbreak> GRUB_TIMEOUT=4 will make it wait longer
[17:33] <cbreak> GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu will make it show a menu
[17:33] <cbreak> drfritze: if you change this file, also read the first few lines of that file
[17:47] <cbreak> maybe I should add a cronjob to `killall kded5`
[19:25] <drfritze> cbreak, with my son's help (an experienced Linux user), I was able to follow your instructions.  I now get a boot menu to select Linux if I go into BIOS and boot Linux. If I go into BIOS and boot Windows, I do not get a menu.  Thanks for trying to help but I'm looking for something that will let me choose between Windows and Linux without making
[19:25] <drfritze> that selection in BIOS.
[19:30] <cbreak> drfritze: grub will do that
[19:30] <cbreak> IF grub detects the windows installation
[19:30] <cbreak> or you can use an external boot chooser, like refind, that then lets you select between windows and grub
[19:32] <drfritze> cbreak, Sounds like I'd better investigate that.
[19:33] <cbreak> grub should detect windows if it's configured correctly
[19:33] <cbreak> not sure why yours isn't. I thought that's the default
 Hi
[19:34] <cbreak> http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/, it's in apt too
 I think i dont have kubuntu 22.04.1 default repos how can i replace them with the default repos?
 Is there any command can do this?
[19:37] <enigma9o7[m]> It might take a couple.
[19:37] <enigma9o7[m]> First you could delete everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d cuz thats where you put PPAs and stuff
[19:38] <enigma9o7[m]> And second you could double check that your sources.list is still default, if not fix it manually, with `sudo apt edit-sources`
[19:39] <enigma9o7[m]> (If you'd added anything directly to that file, delete or comment it)
 The old repos you mean(not default) ? (re @IrcsomeBot: <enigma9o7[m]> (If you'd added anything directly to that file, delete or comment it))
 Ok can you list them ?
 I will do it after 9 hours (re @IrcsomeBot: <enigma9o7[m]> It might take a couple.)
[22:45] <jerry69> Hello! I have Kubuntu 20.04, fully updated, installed on a Lubuntu X140e laptop. But, I am not getting a notification to upgrade to 22.04. What could be wrong?
[22:46] <jerry69> Installed on a Lenovo laptop.
[22:51] <tomreyn> jerry69: nothing's wrong, it's just a suggestion
[22:56] <mmikowski> jerry69: IIRC, there is no notifier at present. However, I can find the exact magic invocation in a minute ...
[22:58] <mmikowski> ok @jerry69: waiting on a pull. Usually it's do-release-upgrade, but I can give you some additional bits of advice we use with kubuntu focus devices.
[23:01] <mmikowski> do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE --allow-third-party;
[23:02] <mmikowski> jerry69: Before you do that, to avoid some common problems: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade; sudo apt-get -y purge virtualbox-6.1 libdvd-pkg zoom;
[23:02] <mmikowski> Hp[ tjat je;[s
[23:03] <mmikowski> *Hope that helps :)
[23:05] <tomreyn> or clean up your third party software first so you're back to a clean system and then run without --allow-third-party
[23:05] <jerry69> I know about the 'do-release upgrade', but I thought the system was supposed to give an offer notification to upgrade.
[23:06] <tomreyn> oh you said you're *not* getting such a notification, sorry, i had missed that.
[23:06] <jerry69> Well, that's true, I'm not getting the notification.
[23:07] <tomreyn> i had one today but on an *ubuntu* 20.04 system. i'm not sure whether kubuntu shows any (but would assume it will).
[23:07] <mmikowski> jerry69: IIRC, @Eickmeyer pointed out that wasn't expected this release for some reason. Lemme see ...
[23:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> Hmmm?
[23:08]  * Eickmeyer[m] reads backscroll
[23:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: Kubuntu (and Ubuntu Studio) don't get notifications because they don't use the same software updater that Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, and Ubuntu Budgie use.
[23:09] <mmikowski> Eickmeyer[m]: You had noted that the graphical prompt for the upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 wasn't forthcoming.
[23:09] <mmikowski> Right.. :)
[23:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> mmikowski: --allow-third-party should only be used for Kubuntu Focus systems.
[23:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> jerry69: If you check the release notes for Kubuntu 22.04, you'll see the instructions for how to upgrade. :)
[23:10] <mmikowski> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JammyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[23:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> ^ That's the one.
[23:11] <mmikowski> kk, back to the millstone for me ...
[23:12] <jerry69> Eickmeyer[m] -- Ok, I can do that. I was just trying to figure out why I wasn't getting the upgrade notification.
[23:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> jerry69: Because there isn't one.
[23:13] <jerry69> Thank yo all for you inputs!
[23:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> No worries. :)
[23:13] <jerry69> Ok Eick. thanks!
[23:18] <tomreyn> Eickmeyer[m]: oh i was assuming those prompts are from update-manager-qt and that this also runs on kubuntu. but then kubuntu does a couple things differently regarding upgrade handling nowadays, i noticed, such as these upgrades on boot (which is nice).
[23:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: update-manager-qt isn't installed on Kubuntu anymore. Instead, it relies on Discover and its notifier, which does not notify of Ubuntu version upgrades. However, that's one thing I'm looking at fixing after the release of 22.10 for the next version, but that would be for Studio.
[23:22] <jerry69> Well Eick, Discover wasn
[23:23] <jerry69> wasn't even giving me a notice to upgrade.
[23:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> jerry69: That's correct, it won't give a notice to upgrade from one version of Kubuntu to the next. That's what I was explaining to tomreyn .
[23:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: In fact, update-manager-qt isn't a thing anymore.
[23:24] <tomreyn> i see
[23:24] <tomreyn> well, its gtk counterpart isn't the greatest either. ;)
[23:25] <jerry69> Yeah, I understand that. I'd just like to have an automatic notice so I wouldn't have to continue checking the web site for upgrades.
[23:25] <jerry69> It's just a convience thing.
[23:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> jerry69: I highly suggest subscribing to the Kubuntu twitter feed: https://twitter.com/kubuntu.
[23:26] <jerry69> Ha! I just subscribed to the Telegram "Kubuntu Support" channel.
[23:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> I totally understand. I wish there was a way to do it with Discover, but there just isn't as it's written to be distribution-agnostic.
[23:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> Uh... that's this exact chat room, just bridged. XD
[23:27] <tomreyn> jerry69: there are release announcement mailing lists (more like a newsletter really) for ubuntu releases (which is also when the other flavors release): https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[23:28] <jerry69> Tom -- that's a good idea, thanks!
[23:32] <tomreyn> you could also write your own script to monitor http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts for changes and report them to the graphical desktop using kdialog or the like.
[23:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> I've been pondering building some sort of cron script for Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio that does the same thing and maybe releasing it in an SRU with a Feature Freeze exception.
[23:36] <mmikowski> or trigger it on login ...
[23:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> That way we don't end up in this situation in 2 years from now.
[23:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> mmikowski: Perhaps.
[23:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'd have to talk to Rik about it.
[23:39] <mmikowski> of course