[01:21] <yaverot_> just upgraded from 20.04 to 22.04, printer not working anymore. USB.
[01:22] <yaverot_> can see printer in lsusb, and lpinfo -v , but getting a connection error when printing.
[01:22] <sarnold> there's some advice on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems that might be handy
[01:28] <hype> Hello.
[01:28] <arraybolt3[m]> 👋
[01:28] <hype> I bought a second-hand GPD Pocket.
[01:29] <FlorianBad> How do I prevent the OK message box at the end of apt-get install?  -y does not seem to do it. (I will put that in a script)
[01:30] <hype> I'm going to try it on Windows for a while, but I think I'll install ubuntu on it.
[01:30] <arraybolt3[m]> OK message box... can you send a screenshot?
[01:30] <arraybolt3[m]> I've not ever seen that before.
[01:31] <FlorianBad> arraybolt3[m]: ah.. it's a "Pending kernel Upgrade" message
[01:31] <FlorianBad> ("you should consider rebooting....")
[01:32] <FlorianBad> Is it because I ran  apt-get "upgrade"? Or is it "update"?
[01:32] <sarnold> FlorianBad: /etc/needrestart/needrestart.conf
[01:32] <arraybolt3[m]> FlorianBad: Oh, then uninstall... I think it's called needrestart?
[01:32] <arraybolt3[m]> There's a specific package that causes that, and uninstalling it fixes it.
[01:33] <sarnold> FlorianBad: you can configure that thing in that file, it's got a lot of choices though, it's not exactly obvious to me what settings would make it much less annoying
[01:33] <FlorianBad> ah that's right,  `apt-get remove -y needrestart`  did it :)
[01:34] <FlorianBad> thanks
[01:35] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍️ glad to heplp!
[01:35] <arraybolt3[m]> *help
[01:36] <yaverot_> printer error "connecting to device"
[01:36] <yaverot_> not anywhere on that wiki page.
[01:36] <sparetire> hmm
[01:38] <arraybolt3[m]> yaverot_: What printer are you using? Manufacturer and model will be handy (as well as model number).
[01:39] <yaverot_> HP Envy 5535 inditefied itself as ENVY_5530_series under 20.04
[01:40] <arraybolt3[m]> Er, I meant the printer info. (Though the computer info might help too.)
[01:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Also what version of Ubuntu?
[01:41] <enigma9o7[m]> I'm jealous of your printer.
[01:41] <yaverot_> I've rebooted multiple times, unplugged and replugged the cables, run lpinfo. used settings to remove and re-addd printer...
[01:42] <yaverot_> The computer is also an HP, I'll need a flashlight to find its model
[01:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Wait so HP Envy was the printer?
[01:43] <arraybolt3[m]> I thought HP Envy was the computer.
[01:43] <yaverot_> yes Envy is the printer, the computer is likely a pavlon
[01:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Huh. Yep, it's the printer.
[01:45] <arraybolt3[m]> yaverot_: Did you already try the answer here? https://askubuntu.com/questions/680343/installing-a-hp-envy-5530-printer
[01:45] <arraybolt3[m]> (Adding the printer from one of these two places might have a different effect.)
[01:45] <yaverot_> It generally worked under 20.04 and the owner didn't tell me it stopped between jobs before I launched upgrade.
[01:45]  * yaverot_ checking page
[01:46] <sparetire> I used to have a boyfriend named "Ubuntu."  He would 'play the bongos' on my ass
[01:47] <arraybolt3[m]> !language | sparetire
[01:48] <leftyfb> they left
[01:49] <leftyfb> probably klined
[01:57] <yaverot_> got the prinnter on again (keeps going to sleep) got a "busy" message before the "connecting to device" error
[01:59] <arraybolt3[m]> That's odd, if it worked in 20.04 but not now that sounds like a regression. Maybe you can file a bug report?
[02:03] <yaverot_> well I'm mentally shot.  they shouldn't need the printer before Thurs when I can try again.  I'm certain once we find it.. it will be easy to fix. thank you for your time
[02:03] <arraybolt3[m]> Glad to try to help, sorry I wasn't much help.
[02:25] <pjs> recently when I disconnect my extermal monitor, put the laptop to sleep (close the lid), open it up later, connect external monitor, the monitor isn't activating.
[02:25] <pjs> if I do ctrl+alt+F<x> the external monitor activates, going back to the original X session and external monitor goes to sleep
[02:25] <pjs> I have to exit i3, relaunch it and it works fine. Anyone ever see anything like this? It's only been the last couple of months. Before that it was never an issue
[02:50] <morganu>  re setting background/wallpaper 20.04 I can change pictures but i dont see the uptions for fit to acreen tile zoom whatever. Where are they?
[03:39] <damocleas> Hello I am struggulling with getting ubuntu to run after installation please help
[03:41] <Bashing-om> damocleas: What is the nature of the issue ?
[03:42] <damocleas> after installation is complete it tells me to remove boot drive I do It restarts it gets past the motherboard logo and then its a black screen with a single line on it flashing like i am in cmd prompt but i cant interact with it.
[03:50] <Bashing-om> damocleas: Graphics driver issue ? At the grun menu select advanced options and in this menu select to boot a recovery console. What results here ?
[03:50] <InPhase> damocleas: Sounds like something significant has gone amiss in the install, either because of a custom option selected during the install, or due to some specific nature of your hardware.  If you know of any options you selected other than the straight path, perhaps you could reconsider them on a retry.  Another option is to attempt recovery mode if you know where to go from there:
[03:50] <InPhase> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode   A third option is to attempt a less intensive alternative install variant like xubuntu, which statistically tends to work better if there is some sort of graphical issue with the main Ubuntu.
[03:53] <damocleas> As I am unsure how to enter advance options from the current install enviroment would selecting the the install options to also include graphical drivers when doing a fresh install potentially help if graphics is the issue
[03:55] <InPhase> damocleas: Might.
[03:56] <InPhase> damocleas: A blank screen is not much to go on for theorizing.  But that is within scope of things I'd consider worth a try, particularly if you have an nVidia graphics card.
[03:57] <damocleas> alright i will try and report back with results
[04:35] <Damoclease> Alright i am back and unfortunately with the same result of just a black screen with a white line flashing like if i was in command prompt prior to this screen is gigabyte logo which is manufacture for motherboard.
[04:41] <esv> hey folks, I had my OS disk encrypted unfortunately, I decided to upgrade from ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04, now the machine stops at the initramfs prompt, wondering if all I need to do is to add a new lukskey to the partition in order to boot
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> esv: is your case ZFS + encryption ?
[04:43] <esv> I am able to open the partitions when I boot of an usb key but ideally I would like to make the system bootable again
[04:43] <esv> ext4
[04:44] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Are you at the initramfs prompt now?
[04:45] <esv> no, but it won't take long. I am on a rescue environment of an usb stick
[04:45] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh wait, stay there then.
[04:45] <arraybolt3[m]> Can you open /etc/crypttab on the encrypted drive?
[04:46] <esv> yep, do you want me to change into chroot?
[04:47] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: No, I just want to know what the file says.
[04:47] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Can you put it into bpa.st?
[04:47] <arraybolt3[m]> http://bpa.st
[04:48] <arraybolt3[m]> Make a new paste there, then send the link.
[04:51] <esv> give me a minute, need to juggle connections
[04:51] <arraybolt3[m]> No problem, really I only need the first field in the file.
[04:51] <arraybolt3[m]> It'll look somethine like "sda3_crypt".
[04:51] <arraybolt3[m]> something*
[04:52] <esv> https://bpa.st/LVXA
[04:53] <damocleas> hey after doing as instructucted i still can not get it to boot up after the installation process is complete i even tried a completely new install media
[05:02] <damocleas> is anyone available to help me get ubuntu installed
[05:03] <enigma9o7[m]> I can try.
[05:04] <enigma9o7[m]> So you installed it, but now it won't boot?
[05:06] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Sorry I was gone for a bit.
[05:06] <esv> arraybolt3[m], no worries.
[05:06] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: OK, so shutdown the computer and go to the initramfs prompt.
[05:06] <damocleas> that is correct the farthest i got is the gigabyte logo appeared for a second and than a black screen with a flashing white line that looks like i am in a command prompt but i can not do anything and its been like that for the past hour
[05:06] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: That will be the easiest place to fix this.
[05:07] <enigma9o7[m]> @damocleas no need to wait and hour, try rebooting
[05:08] <enigma9o7[m]> Sounds like a video problem, however my assumption is you were able to use the live version correctly before installation?
[05:09] <esv> there
[05:09] <damocleas> enigma9o7[m]: I was just taken to the same screen  the demo or trial version before installation worked flawlessly
[05:10] <enigma9o7[m]> hmmm that is kinda weird, i'd think you'd get some text or grub or something
[05:10] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: OK, can you run "ls /dev/sd*" and tell me if you see things that look like "sda1", "sda2", "sda3", etc?
[05:11] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: The idea is to figure out which "sd" or "nvme" device is your main drive.
[05:11] <enigma9o7[m]> @damocleas: during installation did you put GRUB on the same disk you're booting from?  does the pc only have the one disk?
[05:11] <damocleas> what is GRUB
[05:11] <esv> they are nvme partitions, the encrypted OS volume is in /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[05:12] <esv> it points to /dev/dm-3
[05:12] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: OK. So... one moment while I find the right command...
[05:13] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: (Don't run anything else yet lest we confuse the encryption stuff.)
[05:14] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: "cryptsetup open /dev/nvme0n1p3 rootfs --type luks" (change the /dev/nvme0n1p3 part if it's appropriate to)
[05:15] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Then "cryptsetup open /dev/nvme0n1p4 homefs --type luks" (again changing the partition path if appropriate).
[05:17] <esv> ok, I have /dev/mapper/rootfs  and a /dev/mapper/homefs entries now
[05:18] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Nice. OK... uh... shoot I forgot how to do this next step, let me look through my logs...
[05:19] <esv> should I try to enter the linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/mapper/rootfs ro
[05:19] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: mount /dev/mapper/rootfs /root
[05:20] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: mount /dev/mapper/homefs /root/home
[05:20] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Then "exit", and your desktop should load.
[05:20] <arraybolt3[m]> (Actually, don't do exit just yet.)
[05:20] <damocleas> @enigma9o7[m]: what is Grub
[05:20] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Before running "exit", run "ls /root" and "ls /root/home/<username" and make sure they look normal. If so, then do "exit".
[05:20] <esv> ok
[05:21] <esv> they do look very normal
[05:22] <enigma9o7[m]> damocleas, the ubuntu installer confimrs you wish to install the grub bootloader on the same disk as you put ubuntu, it asks right afterwards i believe, or its a seperate checkbox, cant remember, but the default action is fine, as long as you didnt change it
[05:22] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Nice, looks like we mounted the right drives! OK, "exit" away and hopefully everything should start working. If so, there's one last step.
[05:22] <esv> YES!!!!
[05:22] <arraybolt3[m]> Er, right partitions.
[05:22] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: \o/ Alright, last step. Once you're logged in, press Ctrl+Alt+T to open a terminal.
[05:22] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Then run... uh, one moment, finding command...
[05:23] <esv> Im root now
[05:23] <damocleas> i done the default install
[05:23] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: update-initramfs -c -k all
[05:24] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: That command should not print any errors or warnings. If it goes right, we should be done! If an error or warning is spit out, we'll need to do a bit more digging.
[05:24] <enigma9o7[m]> how bout the checkbox for updates or 3rd party drivers?
[05:24] <arraybolt3[m]> (Do expect to see some command output though.)
[05:24] <esv> I mocked with the grub, let me update that too
[05:24] <enigma9o7[m]> maybe if you said yes to 3rd party drivers, it installed some bad video damocleas do you know what kinda gpu you have?
[05:24] <damocleas> that i done on my second attempt
[05:25] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Make sure to run "update-grub" when you're done with editing GRUB configuration stuff (oh, and edit /etc/default/grub, NOT /boot/grub/grub.cfg!).
[05:25] <damocleas> i have nividia 1650
[05:26] <damocleas> which it was the third party install i am unsure why i have same problem with the first installation of it
[05:26] <esv> ya, had to edit the grub prompt as I really messed that up
[05:26] <enigma9o7[m]> indeed, and that video card should use any nvidia drivers
[05:31] <esv> get these "skipping" messages : https://bpa.st/ZYEA
[05:32] <esv> should I remove the keys and add them back again
[05:32] <esv> the original keys were added in 20.04
[05:32] <damocleas> 435+6
[05:36] <damocleas> anymore ideas
[05:37] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: I'd be very careful with messing with encryption keys.
[05:37] <enigma9o7[m]> do you have a second monitor or tv hooked up?
[05:38] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Those warnings don't look too problematic IMO. Reboot and see what happens.
[05:38] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Er, DO NOT MESS WITH THE KEYS, IF YOU HAVE, DON"T REBOOT!
[05:38] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: If you've *not* messed with the keys, then reboot and see what happens.
[05:38] <esv> didn't touch the keys, rebooting
[05:39] <damocleas> I did when i ran windows but since its been so problematic i moved it to just one
[05:40] <enigma9o7[m]> I dont have any ideas, if you dont get any text at all but a cursor, it's not like you can do anything that I can think of.
[05:42] <esv> didnt work but the recovery worked again, that's a step in the right direction. thanks, time to sleep
[05:43] <esv> thank you a lot for this,
[05:45] <damocleas> like the only other information i can really add is no input devices do anything and the entire boot up after the installation media was removed I have yet to see the ubuntu logo
[05:45] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Crud, sorry that it's still glitchy, that's weird.
[05:45] <arraybolt3[m]> Glad we've at least got a stop gap of sorts.
[05:46] <esv> yeah, night folks.
[05:46] <arraybolt3[m]> esv: Please, if you do end up doing anything with encryption keys, please back up all of your data onto an external drive first. If something goes wrong, you want to kee pthe data.
[05:46] <arraybolt3[m]> Good night!
[05:46] <arraybolt3[m]> (Can someone please confirm that they've not already left, I'm on Matrix and can't see that stuff sometimes.)
[05:47] <esv> got enough scars and gray hair to know better :D
[05:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Ah, OK. 👍️
[05:52] <damocleas> okay question will the grub bootloader thing appear anytime you start up the pc
[05:54] <rfm> damocleas, not with a normal ubuntu install, you have to spam esc or shift (which one depends on efi vs legacy, and I don't remember which)
[05:57] <damocleas> okay lets say the button is shift and it pulls up bootloader menu does that mean the bootloader is working and if not is there a way i can test it
[07:36] <Praxis> I have a RPi4 I'm trying to set up as a pi-hole, with ubuntu server 22. But i'm having some trouble disabling the wifi, how do I force it to use ethernet?
[07:38] <ravage> Praxis, choose one of these https://raspberrytips.com/disable-wifi-raspberry-pi/ maybe not the ones for the desktop
[07:39] <Praxis> ravage thanks!
[07:55] <Praxis> Ok, so it's disabled, but it isn't seeing the ethernet as an option at all
[07:58] <ravage> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-configuration
[08:01] <Praxis> ravage tried that, didn't help
[08:02] <Praxis> Like it sees the hardware in ip a, but ifconfig doesn't list it at all
[08:05] <elias_a> Autohide of the left dock panel seems to get disabled time to time in 22.04.1. Has anyone else noticed similar behaviour?
[08:08] <elias_a> Oh - never mind. Auto hide got probably switched off in last upgrade.
[08:35] <waveform> Praxis, how are you configuring the network? The default on server is netplan, the configuration for which should be in /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml on the pi server image
[09:06] <ikonia>  /join #theforeman
[09:06] <ikonia> oops
[09:12] <adac> Hi guys. How can I debug sound problems? I suddently have no sound anymore when I add my notebook to the docking station
[09:16] <mtlife> adac: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/906/sound-output-device-chooser/ I use this one, when I connect to the docking station it connects to the audio connectors of the docking station automatically. I have to manually select laptop speakers everytime.
[09:16] <mtlife> adac left already :o)
[09:17] <gurki> greetings. i just came across a box running ubuntu 21.04 and i would update that to a recent lts release
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> gurki: 21.04 is eol, reccomended to clean install a supported ubuntu release
[09:17] <gurki> do-release-upgrade advises me to grab the most recent 21.04 updates first, which seems reasonable, but apt wont let me, yielding the error that
[09:18] <gurki> E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hirsute-security Release' no longer has a Release file.
[09:18] <gurki> lotuspsychje: i cannot reinstall this machine for various reasons, i would really like to update this box to a recent lts though
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> gurki: your decicion might hold security risks see !usn
[09:19] <gurki> i guess that this box shouldnt have ever moved away from a lts release
[09:19] <gurki> lotuspsychje: ?!
[09:19] <gurki> lotuspsychje: i literally want to update this box to a still supported release :S
[09:19] <gurki> my question boils down to "how can i do that" ;-)
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> gurki: i know, but in the meantime your system could have been compromized, if you want to take that risk, proceed to !eolupgrade
[09:20] <gurki> !eolupgrade
[09:21] <gurki> ah. point taken
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> gurki: you also would have to jump from 21.04 ==> 21.10 wich is also eol so apt might also dont like that
[09:23] <gurki> so i assume that jumping straight to 22.04 is a bad idea?
[09:23] <ravage> It is not supported
[09:24] <ravage> Even less than an EOL upgrade
[09:24] <gurki> so id need to 21.04 -> 21.10 -> 22.04 and then somehow tell ubuntu to stick to the lts?
[09:24] <ravage> Right. That ia just a config file switch then
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> gurki: what i would reccomend is share your reason why you cant clean install, volunteers might have ideas for you anyway
[09:27] <gurki> a) tons of stuff not installed via apt (hopefully not breaking on new system packages), b) quite sophisticated setup to deal with custom hardware using a set of udev rules and whatnot and c) reinstalling would take a -lot- of time which i cannot spend on this
[09:27] <gurki> i am aware that trying the update might break the system too, but thats why i have a backup :)
[09:28] <ravage> upgrading through multiple releases also takes a lot of time
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> gurki: a clean install you could take with your existing /home
[09:29] <gurki> if this was a mere matter of /home and having apt export a list of packages i can just install on the new install then id already have done that
[09:29] <ravage> good luck
[09:30] <gurki> hm. that eol upgrade page actually seems like that should "just" work out. what am i missing?
[09:30] <gurki> you probably wouldnt be so critical if this were the "piece of cake" this looks like to me from reading those docs
[09:49] <sf75> I heard there is a PPA for all the nvidia GPU drivers. Is that PPA reliable?
[09:56] <gordonjcp> reliable in what sense?
[09:56] <gordonjcp> also, just use the latest driver unless you've got an extremely good reason not to
[09:58] <gordonjcp> okay then
[09:58] <geirha> In my book, all nvidia gpu drivers are unreliable
[09:59] <gordonjcp> geirha: why do you say that?
[10:04] <geirha> Because they make crappy drivers for linux, and suddenly one day they drop support for your old nvidia card so you have to decide if you want to stick with an outdated kernel or try your luck at the even worse open source driver
[10:05] <gordonjcp> geirha: so not really all that different to AMD then?
[10:06] <gordonjcp> geirha: given that AMD don't appear to support cards more than about four or five years old
[10:06] <geirha> yep, AMD is in the same boat
[10:06] <iderik> whats wrong with ubuntu software center? the UI is too simple (no settings, no package details, etc) and barely any packages available (for example weechat)
[10:06] <gordonjcp> geirha: so what do you recommend then?
[10:07] <iderik> i do often get duplicates when search for packages, whats up with that?
[10:07] <gordonjcp> geirha: Intel? Good luck with that, some people need hardware acceleration
[10:07] <odinsbane> We're re-installing nvidia-drivers do we need to restart to get nvidia-smi working?
[10:07] <geirha> there isn't any good option as far as I'm aware
[10:07] <iderik> for example searching for "onlyoffice" gives "onlyoffice-desktopeditors" and "onlyoffice-ds". how do i know which one and barely any details about the pcackages
[10:08] <gordonjcp> geirha: so, NVidia it is, then
[10:08] <geirha> iderik: run apt show on them
[10:08] <gordonjcp> geirha: since that's the only card that actually does not-horribly-buggy 3d acceleration and GPU compute acceleration
[10:08] <gordonjcp> geirha: and also supports cards that aren't "current or one generation behind" old
[10:09] <vimart> Yo guys
[10:09] <iderik> geirha if using the terminal for that, why does this gui even exist? am i the only one complaining about this?
[10:10] <geirha> The open source driver for amd cards is slightly better than the nouveau one in my experience, but yes. The choice is between the better of two evils
[10:11] <geirha> iderik: ah sorry, I missed that you were using one the guis. I'm not on ubuntu at the moment, so can't check what you mean, but it is odd that it doesn't show the description if you click on it..?
[10:13] <iderik> geirha it only says description of the package and size. if it only could show dependencies i could figure out myself which one of the 2 clones/dupes is the correct one
[10:13] <gordonjcp> geirha: neither of the open-source drivers work
[10:16] <SteelRose_> Hi! Just in case some of you have been affected: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1988119
[10:16] <geirha> iderik: Ah, I see. Could probably be fixed by adding a more useful package description for those two packages, but that's probably just one case among many others that would need similar improvements
[10:32] <SteelRose_> ubottu: that's the link I posted :-)
[10:33] <odinsbane> I had to reboot
[10:38] <arraybolt3[m]> SteelRose_: ubottu is a bot, it's showing some data about the bug so that people on IRC don't have to click the link and can still tell what's being talked about.
[10:57] <SteelRose_> arraybolt3[m]: ah OK, thanks for the clarification :-)
[11:00] <SteelRose> https://bashrcgenerator.com/
[11:48] <marchello> Hi all, my old notebook works under Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS -- how do I prevent it from turning off my screen completely?
[11:52] <getheao11> can someone help me with this: DDNet-16.2.2-linux_x86_64/DDNet: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.28' not found
[11:55] <esv> marchello, have you tried system settings -> Power ?
[12:02] <marchello> esv: yeah, it doesn't seem to abide those settings; any other place to check?
[12:04] <esv> no idea, not very good with GUIs
[12:06] <ogra> getheao11, looks like that binary has been bult for a different libc version, it will likely not be able to run on your install
[12:07] <ogra> (libc 2.28 is *very* old ... )
[12:08] <ogra> (from 2018 or so)
[12:11] <marchello> esv: any console way to disable screen turning off behavior?
[12:34] <getheao11> ogra, thanks!
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:43] <belovmv> Hi
[13:06] <up_running> https://imgur.com/a/F7L2Jl6
[13:06] <up_running> where I am supposed to input the login info?
[13:07] <up_running> also, is 2 processors and 1 core ok for Ubuntu Mate in vmware workstation?
[13:16] <Teckla> Quick question (I hope).  Brand new 22.04.1 install yesterday.  Should I be concerned about this?  The following packages have been kept back: gnome-shell gnome-shell-common ubuntu-advantage-tools
[13:16] <Teckla> (gnome-shell also crashed on me earlier, so I figured I'd try an update)
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> Teckla: can you pastebin the whole output of your command + apt errors please
[13:17] <ogra> Teckla, check the packages with "apt policy <package>"
[13:18] <ogra> Teckla, they are most likely in phased updates .... if the output talks about "phasing" and shows a percntage ... just be patient and try to update tem again later or wait til the automatic update pullse them in
[13:18] <Teckla> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/TcTDKvj6 - thank you
[13:20] <Teckla> ogra: https://pastebin.com/RbfRyMFX - thank you
[13:21] <Teckla> ogra: Ah yes, I see "(phased 30%)" on several of those.
[13:21] <ogra> yup
[13:22] <ogra> you can force the upgrade if you feel in a hurry by simply mntioning all of thm in one apt install line ... i.e. sudo apt install gnome-shell gnome-shell-common ubuntu-advantage-tools
[13:22] <ogra> that will override the phasing
[13:22] <Teckla> What is a "phased update"?
[13:22] <ogra> it makes sure the server does not get overloaded by everyone getting the update at the same time
[13:23] <Teckla> Ah ha, yes, that makes sense -- roll things out at a reasonable pace.  Thanks!
[13:23] <ogra> so it gets phased across the day and only a portion of users gets it ... that lowers the load
[13:24] <Teckla> "Once an update is released to -updates, the update is then phased so that the update is gradually made available to expanding subsets of Ubuntu users. This process allows us to automatically monitor for regressions and halt the update process if any are found."
[13:24] <Teckla> Thank you ogra and lotuspsychje.  It looks like I have nothing to worry about.  :)
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> \o/
[13:25] <ogra> yeah 🙂
[13:33] <laguna> what is ubuntu-advantage-tools
[13:34] <ravage> laguna, https://ubuntu.com/advantage
[13:35] <laguna> ravage oh ok...enterprise stuff with warranties
[13:37] <laguna> redhat does that enterprise stuff too
[13:40] <ogra> laguna, well, not only enterprise ... also (free) for home users to get 5y extra security updates for otherwise EOLed releases
[13:40] <laguna> ogra oh ok that is nice too
[13:51] <rs2009> will the TB meeting be in #ubuntu-meeting or #ubuntu-meeting-2?
[13:55] <iderik> why doesnt Ubuntu Software Center show all packages? apt-get seems to work just fine. for example the package "weechat"
[14:00] <laguna> what is the name of that ppa repository that lets you customize your grub entries
[14:00] <up_running> just installed Ubuntu Mate and edited `/etc/apt/source.list`, how do I connect to my school's repository so I can run `sudo apt upgrade` ?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> laguna: you can edit grub with /etc/default/grub without any ppa
[14:01] <laguna> lotuspsychje..yes i know..but this is a windowed file that does all the copyiing and pasting to rearrange boot order
[14:01] <laguna> lotuspsychje..it makes it easy
[14:02] <laguna> but i can't remember the ppa
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> laguna: we dont really support external ppa's, but i assume you mean grub customizer?
[14:02] <laguna> lotuspsychje..yes that is it
[14:04] <zamba> is there a way i can download a specific version of the nvidia-utils package?
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> !info grub-customizer
[14:04] <zamba> i'm trying to pass through a gpu resource to a lxc container
[14:04] <zamba> the host is running proxmox (debian) and the container is running ubuntu
[14:04] <laguna> ubottu oh did they disallow the lauchpad ppa in jammy
[14:05] <zamba> so the driver version on the host is 470.103.01, but the package in ubuntu is 470.141.03
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> laguna: there seems to be a bug in jammy bug #1969353
[14:15] <theZoMBiE> does somebody know what is the purpose of using grep -w ? what does the -w option stand for?
[14:19] <leftyfb> theZoMBiE: type:  man grep   # then search for the -w flag
[14:20] <theZoMBiE> thats the thing, i do not see it in the man pages
[14:21] <leftyfb> theZoMBiE: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:22] <theZoMBiE> 21.10
[14:22] <theZoMBiE> oh i think i figured out the difference
[14:23] <leftyfb> theZoMBiE: time to upgrade as 21.10 is no longer supported (not related to your issue)
[14:24] <leftyfb> theZoMBiE: I have checked all supported versions of ubuntu and the -w flag and description shows in every grep man page
[14:28] <ogra> yeah, -w is definitely a very old option ... at least in ubuntus grep
[14:50] <laguna> ubottu yes i saw the page on grub-customizer that said not fixed...but it works here on jammy
[14:51] <laguna> i had to rearrange several boot os's...and put windows first...and i did not want to do all that cutting and pasting in grub.cfg file manually
[14:55] <laguna> and i also wanted to put the generic kernel before the low latency kernel so i can use both
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !yay | laguna
[14:59] <laguna> i like this gnome ..everything like files and terminal..and the icons are easy to read and use
[14:59] <laguna> gtk is starting to look pretty good
[15:00] <laguna> but it doesn't categorize your apps
[15:01] <orca_> theres extensions for that
[15:01] <laguna> orca_ oh that is good to know...what are the extensions
[15:01] <orca_> i think extensions manager app
[15:02] <laguna> can they put folders of apps of particular groups
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> laguna: there's an indicator for that classicmenu-indicator
[15:03] <orca_> yes ^^ thats also good
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> well not in folders, but organizes gnomes programs into categories
[15:03] <laguna> lotuspsychje...well i was thinking folders of apps with folder group names that open up to related apps
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> laguna: something like this; https://www.florian-diesch.de/_images/classicmenu-indicator.png
[15:04] <laguna> like audaciy and ardour might be put in a recorder foer
[15:04] <laguna> folder
[15:05] <laguna> yes that link is ok too but it looks back like gnome 2
[15:05] <laguna> i was thinking folders in the panel app icon
[15:06] <laguna> you might put gimp and blender and libre draw in an arts folder
[15:07] <laguna> then open the folder to see the icons for launching one of the apps
[15:07] <laguna> or you might put weechat hexchat and chatzilla and pidgin in an irc folder
[15:08] <orca_> install gnome-shell-extension-manager
[15:08] <orca_> theres one in there
[15:11] <laguna> orca i installed it but there is no gnome-shell-extension-manager command and i don't know how to enable the extension
[15:11] <laguna> orca i don't see anything different on gnome but let me log out and back in
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> laguna: ubuntu 22.04 has an extensions icon now, (green & grey puzzle)
[15:12] <orca_> click activities and type extensions
[15:12] <orca_> oh yeah sorry i forget to ask what version ubuntu youre on
[15:12] <orca_> it works for 22.04 on mine
[15:15] <laguna> orca..i don't see anything different in gnome after install gnome-shell-extension-manager
[15:15] <orca_> what version of ubuntu are you on
[15:15] <laguna> orca jammy jellyfish
[15:15] <orca_> maybe you have to install gnome-tweaks also
[15:16] <orca_> but i just click activities and type extension and it shows up
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> gnome-tweaks doesnt show extensions anymore
[15:17] <orca_> i know i just thought maybe she has to install it because of some dependencies or something idk
[15:17] <orca_> but it should show up where the apps are
[15:18] <laguna> orca yes it does thanks orca
[15:18] <laguna> orca is it editable with menu editor
[15:19] <orca_> not editable
[15:19] <orca_> but its a menu with categories
[15:19] <laguna> orca well it would be nice to interface it with menu editor for making whatever groups and changes you want
[15:20] <orca_> yeah
[15:21] <orca_> technically theres probably a way but i dont know
[15:23] <laguna> orca i am thinking menulibre would be a good app for customizing your groups
[15:24] <laguna> orca it has a nice gnome interface
[15:24] <jhutchins> It's funny, menu editing has been a feature that failed to work on multiple desktops across multiple distributions for years.
[15:25] <laguna> well a simple folder approach in gnome 3 would be nice
[15:26] <laguna> hutchins you mean menulibre doesn't work
[15:27] <ogra> well, that is nt how modern XDG .desktop files work ... their position in the menu is managed via the "Categories=" entry in the file itself
[15:27] <ogra> your editor would actually have to edit each and every .desktop file to re-order them
[15:28] <laguna> ogra oh what a dilemma...a simple folder approach would be nice for some desktop app icons in the application screen
[15:28] <laguna> just group the icons in folders
[15:29] <ogra> yeah, i think that train is long gone ...
[15:29] <ogra> (some time with gnome 2)
[15:31] <orca_> menulibre might work
[15:32] <laguna> orca ok if not maybe in a future version
[15:33] <orca_> yeah i just tried it it gave an error
[15:33] <laguna> orca well maybe in a later version
[16:01] <linuxuser> hello, i have a following message when i install ubuntu server on qemu/kvm virtual machine: E: cannot write log is dev pts mounted from apt-get. Can I safely ignore this message? I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[16:06] <ogra> linuxuser, it is not harmful, but points out that you did not do a proper installation
[16:06] <ogra> (in properly booted ubuntu systems /dev/pts is mounted as devpts)
[17:12] <student> kite
[17:13] <johnfg> hi folks
[17:14] <johnfg> Does ubuntu either have its own, or a recommended vpn?  I've been running openvpn on my machines, and I note that it wasn't reinstalled/upgraded in the 22.04 upgrade.
[17:15] <johnfg> Which is not unusual or unexpected.  But just wanted to make sure about what's best.
[17:16] <tomreyn> johnfg: openvpn is still supported. a newer alternative (for similar but not always the same sceanrios) is wireguard.
[17:17] <tomreyn> i'm not sure why an existing openvpn package would not have been upgraded, if it was installed from ubuntu apt repositories
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> johnfg: i recently tested RiseupVPN snap from ubuntu software, a free VPN service working with free contribution donations
[17:18] <tomreyn> johnfg: there are different types of vpn's, though, it's not entirely clear what you are looking for.
[17:21] <johnfg> i'm mistaken.  openvpn *is* running, but my ultravnc server is not.
[17:23] <johnfg> Actually, I'm not sure what vnc server I was running in the previous version.
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> be careful with vnc remote control these days its a big security risk johnfg
[17:51] <johnfg> Thanks for the warning.  I've used openvpn and vnc for years, and no problems thus far.  Doesn't mean I won't be careful.
[17:52] <johnfg> I just like to be able to access this machine from the office, if I need to, with vnc.  Of course my preferred way is simply to ssh in.
[18:08] <habys> hiya folks, is anyone able to dynamically assign hostnames to machines setup via pxe with autoinstall? I see some work arounds here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1905932 but I wondered if autoinstaller natively supports this seemingly common situation
[18:08] <leftyfb> habys: you might try #ubuntu-server
[18:09] <habys> hey thanks!
[18:11] <Fazion> I am using Ubuntu 20.04.4. I have a laptop with a thunderbolt 4 (usb4) port. I want to know if it is usable or if Ubuntu recognizes it. How do I find out?
[18:19] <rob0> Fazion, I've never known a Linux to be unable to use a USB port. Are you plugging something into it that is not working?
[18:20] <Fazion> rob0: this is a thunderbolt 4 port, it's something different
[18:20] <Fazion> it has 40gbps achievable bandwidth, im unsure whether ubuntu supports it
[18:21] <rob0> oh. I haven't tried Linux on my Macbook yet.
[18:21] <Fazion> I have a USB-C Gen 2x2 external SSD and I have a thunderbolt 4 port on my laptop. If I get a thunderbolt 4 cable and then connect the SSD to my laptop, I am wondering if it will work and whether Ubuntu will support it or not,.
[18:21] <Fazion> it's a lenovo laptop, not a macbook
[18:22] <johnfg> I looked in dpkg.log, but don't find that a vnc server was installed, but libvncserver1 was.  What's the standard/usual vnc server?  Or how can I find out what I'd been using on this machine?
[18:25] <rs2009> Fazion: yep, ubuntu does support TB
[18:26] <Fazion> rs2009: but the boltctl doesn't return anything
[18:27] <Fazion> boltctl command*
[18:27] <Fazion> i have intel, intel supposedly has good support for linux but im unsure why boltctl is not recognizing my tb4 port
[18:28] <Fazion> running "sudo lspci -vv | grep -E 'PCI bridge|LnkCap'" also shows de])
[18:28] <Fazion>         LnkCap:    Port #1, Speed 16GT/s, Width x4, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L1 <16us
[18:30] <Fazion> does this imply thunderbolt 4?
[18:30] <rs2009> yep, it does
[18:31] <rs2009> oops, thought you were asking whether tb4 referred to thunderbolt 4
[18:31] <Fazion> rs2009: but thunderbolt4 is 40gbps. why then it is 16gt/s?
[18:31] <rob0> found a red hat notabug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1632819 which might be applicable (it's a T480s)
[18:36] <esv> arraybolt3[m], found the issue
[18:38] <esv>  the line KEYFILE_PATTERN=/etc/luks/*.keyfile was commented out from the new file, I might have chosen to replace the original file while updating the OS.
[19:05] <eelstrebor> anyone else having problems with firefox tabs and the browser itself crashing? it has been doing this for a while under ubuntu 20.04 and now 22.04. current firefox version is 104
[19:10] <jhutchins> eelstrebor: Snap?
[19:16] <eelstrebor> jhutchins, i installed with synaptic in 20.04 but with snap in 22.04
[19:17] <eelstrebor> not to mention that i'm getting logged out of websites when there is no time limit (like online banking)
[19:18] <cbreak> I haven't noticed that kind of problem with firefox
[19:19] <cbreak> other than firefox updates pre-snap, which sometimes required restarts via tabs not loading
[19:34] <theloudspeaker> is it just me or after waking up from suspend, the wifi is a bit bad quality than before?
[19:34] <theloudspeaker> My main router is downstairs and I use a wireless repeater to use internet in my room, I could run 1080p videos without hiccups before but after waking ubuntu 22.04 from sleep, the videos started buffering.
[19:34] <theloudspeaker> wifi is working fine on other devices tho.
[19:54] <MXE> Hi, my second monitor doesn't get detected by the ubuntu system.
[19:57] <MXE> Any support team members here?
[20:03] <MXE> Help?
[20:06] <MXE> Hi!
[20:07] <MXE> Any mods here?
[20:07] <mrkubax10> it's netsplit
[20:08] <MXE> Can I receive support for Ubuntu here?
[20:08] <mrkubax10> yes
[20:09] <samy1028b> MXE: can you restate your question?  I think you may have asked it right before the split happened.
[20:09] <MXE> Okay so... my second monitor doesn't get detected by the system at all, whether it's HDMI or displayport
[20:14] <samy1028b> which version of Ubuntu?  What video card(s) or is it onboard chipset?
[20:14] <samy1028b> has it ever worked before or is this a new computer and new install of Ubuntu?
[20:15] <MXE> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS x86_64
[20:15] <MXE> NVIDIA NVS 4200M
[20:16] <MXE> Old laptop, fresh install of Ubuntu
[20:17] <MXE> The first time I tried it on this laptop with this system it didn't work, but it works on Windows 11 (I have dual boot)
[20:19] <samy1028b> I just did a google search: ubuntu 22.04 nvidia 4200m dual monitor
[20:19] <samy1028b> and a number of responses came up, including some fairly recent ones that are very similar to your issue.
[20:25] <MXE> They didn't help tbh
[20:26] <samy1028b> oh..  So, what have you started with so far?  I don't know how much help I can be since I don't have a similar system to try it on.  But perhaps others may be able to help out.
[20:27] <MXE> I looked up what you looked up, most of them didn't get their issue solved and those who did didn't help solving mine. Anyone else available right now?
[20:33] <johnny_Linux> wow, 420m came out in 2010.  maybe a driver issue
[20:34] <MXE> Yeah, most likely a driver issue. There are 2 options for toggling drivers in the "additonal drivers" but both of them didn't detect the second monitor.
[20:35] <johnny_Linux> i see, maybe connect them and log out and back in, and.. check for (display) in menues and see if they are turned on ?
[20:41] <MXE> Sure, but note that... Super + P does not work as it does on Windows, it doesn't toggle display modes and doesn't change anything at all
[20:41] <johnny_Linux> you just cant toggle drivers.. you have to un install the first one .. then install the other
[20:41] <johnny_Linux> rebooting inbetween
[20:42] <jhutchins> MXE: Why would you expect something to work the way it does in Windows?
[20:43] <MXE> johnny_Linux, not toggling drivers I mean toggling between the visual display/monitor modes
[20:43] <johnny_Linux> ok
[20:43] <MXE> jhutchins, so that shortcut does not exist on Ubuntu? I thought it's an issue by my side only
[20:46] <jhutchins> MXE: Is there a marked function key that toggles the display?  Those don't always work because there's no standard, but that might work, possibly in combination with connecting the monitor with the system "live", possibly with a hot boot.
[20:47] <MXE> jhutchins, I checked, there is no shortcut and I couldn't find anything like it in the keyboard settings
[20:48] <sarnold> look all over the keyboard for a little square box
[20:48] <sarnold> well I guess my lenovo has a tiny picture of an apple II in front of a little square box
[20:52] <Tin_man> I had a failed upgrade to 22.04.1 (firefox snap) locked up the computer completely. After rebooting I received the sad face, and "Oh no something......" Anyway I could still SSH into my new upgrade, but I decided to download the ISO, and re-install.
[20:54] <Tin_man> I can't for the life of me remember how I set up all my drive with (either symlinks, or aliases in my fstab file with the UUID, any links to the info would be helpful.
[20:56] <Tin_man> that should say drives 3 usb thumb, and 3 HDDS
[20:57] <question2> how do i make my live usb stick read only and with only one partition?
[20:58] <Tin_man> i can still access them from ssh from the /media/name, but having a simple name from my home directory is so much better.
[21:01] <question2> i do sudo sha256sum /dev/sdb
[21:01] <question2> and i expect it to be the same
[21:08] <tomreyn> question2: i believe you asked the same question here and elsewhere yesterday, and got answers.
[21:10] <question2> no the answer was dm-verity
[21:10] <question2> does that change my iso?
[21:11] <question2> such that all partitions are read-only?
[21:15] <tomreyn> question2: as far as i know, there's no such thing as read-only *partitions*. there can be read-only disks (WORM, or hardware switch), read-only file system mounts, read-only block devices layers such as dm-verity.
[21:16] <question2> ...
[21:16] <tomreyn> i assume i did not provide the correct answer to your question?
[21:17] <question2> i am not sure what the syntax is for what i am saying
[21:18] <tomreyn> in case that's a language barrier, you could also ask in #ubuntu-de
[21:18] <question2> the first time the usb stick gets mounted it places a dirty bit. After that i hash the entire usb stick and it always gives the same value
[21:18] <question2> now i have the partition writeable there
[21:18] <question2> i have never used dm-verity
[21:19] <question2> ...
[21:19] <tomreyn> dirty bit is a mechaism used by file systems. file systems can be mounted. "usb stick" sounds like a storage device.
[21:19] <Tin_man> if it is a usb with more than 2 partitions, why now copy the other partitions to another usb drive, and reformat the usb and copy the one iso?
[21:20] <question2> its all live usb sticks
[21:20] <tomreyn> i've also never used dm-verity, but it sounds interesting, and has a manual.
[21:21] <Tin_man> out of my league.. I've only the old flavor..
[21:26] <MaterazziSan> Hi, I am not sure if this is best channel to talk about this but just in case. A friend is using Ubuntu 24.04.1 and he cannot open Ubuntu Software, a core dump is generated. My questions are, is this an open issue? Where core dump is generated?
[21:26] <MaterazziSan> It has started after an update
[21:27] <MaterazziSan> Thank you so much in advance!
[21:27] <tomreyn> MaterazziSan: the latest Ubuntu version is 22.04, is this what you mean?
[21:27] <MaterazziSan> Sorry tomreyn, yes, you are right
[21:28] <MaterazziSan> 22.04.1
[21:29] <cbreak> have  you looked at the core dump?
[21:29] <question2> anyway
[21:29] <cbreak> it should tell you what crashed, and why
[21:29] <question2> thanks
[21:30] <MaterazziSan> No, I do not know where is generated and how I can have a look, just asking for that
[21:31] <tomreyn> MaterazziSan: when supported Ubuntu software (such as this) fails, usually a core dump is generated and automatically handled by whoopsie, which gathers additional information on this error and, if enabled, uploads it to daisy.ubuntu.com, which then processes it and passes the processed data on to errors.ubuntu.com, where developers can review it. "Ubuntu Software" is a snap, though, and I'm not sure this applies there, or works the same way
[21:31] <tomreyn> there.
[21:32] <tomreyn> the data stored by whoopsie is temporarily stored in /var/crash
[21:33] <tomreyn> Tin_man: were you asking a question earlier? i wasn't sure whether you were just reporting what happened to you, or actually had a question.
[21:36] <MaterazziSan> Thank you so much tomreyn and cbreak, I will tell that to him. Checking that path to find core dump. It is generated when he types "snap-store" in a terminal emulator
[21:38] <tomreyn> this provides information on how to debug a crashing snap - but it's more developer oriented, i guess: https://snapcraft.io/blog/how-to-troubleshoot-application-issues-and-crashes-with-snapd-gdbserver
[21:39] <MaterazziSan> Thank you so much again tomreyn!
[21:40] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[21:59] <Tin_man> tomreyn, it was question..
[22:01] <tomreyn> Tin_man: can you just ask the current question again, maybe rephrased a bit, since apparently i did not get it.
[22:03] <Tin_man> I've tried to remember if it was a symlink that i used to set each UUID in my home directory or a alias.  my old fstab reads as:
[22:04] <jhutchins> !paste
[22:05] <Tin_man> UUID=fbcd76f5-be42-40df-ae20-c8fcbdfbaaf1	/home/dave/Backup2	ext4	defaults	0 "one line in my stab file "backup 2 is a 80gb hdd" and there is 3 other drives with similar entries.
[22:06] <Tin_man> i can't remember is backup 2 is a symlink, or a alias
[22:07] <tomreyn> you mount file systems into directories, so /home/dave/Backup2 would have been an empty directory.
[22:07] <tomreyn> if that's what you meant to ask?
[22:08] <Tin_man> in ssh it shows up in the home directory as a directory, I think it was a symlink, but can't remember..
[22:10] <hype> Hello.
[22:10] <hype> http://gpdjapan.com/gpd_pocket_info/
[22:10] <Tin_man> i can still access all the drives from /root/media/dave.. with all the long UUIDs
[22:10] <hype> This UMPC will arrive tomorrow, but I am planning to install Ubuntu on it because it is old and the specs are not high.
[22:11] <tomreyn> Tin_man: is your question this? 'if i have, in /etc/fstab, this line: "UUID=fbcd76f5-be42-40df-ae20-c8fcbdfbaaf1 /home/dave/Backup2 ext4 defaults 0" - then which file system object do i need to have at /home/dave/Backup2 to be able to mount it there?'
[22:12] <tomreyn> hype: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:12] <hype> May I ask you about that on this channel in the future?
[22:13] <Tin_man> i'm asking if you know if I set up a symlink, or a alias to point to home/dave/backup2 that actually is UUID @@@#@#@#$@##@$@#$@#$@$#@#...
[22:15] <hype> tomreyn I haven't received the product yet, so I don't have any questions for now. I would like to install Ubuntu and use IRC on the go, but I have another question.
[22:15] <tomreyn> hype: there are different gdp pocket models / generations, but all of them can run ubuntu, and i would think they also can run ubuntu without a lot of modifications.
[22:16] <hype> tomreyn Is that so. I was relieved.
[22:16] <tomreyn> hype: this is the original producer: https://gpd.hk/ - but the hardware itself is rather off-topic for this channel - until you try to run ubuntu on it.
[22:18] <hype> tomreyn understood. I try not to be off topic.
[22:20] <hype> I'm pretty much a newbie when it comes to Ubuntu. I use Ubuntu installed on VPS as a server, but I don't do much. Thank you for your help.
[22:20] <tomreyn> hype: i have ubuntu running on the gpd pocket 1 here, we can talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic if that's the model you're getting, or you have general questions about it.
[22:22] <hype> tomreyn understood.
[23:46] <ghano> ..