[07:10] <lubuntu> yo
[07:11] <luna__> hi
[07:14] <ExeciN> Hi people. I'm trying to install ubuntu server 22.04 on a vps but something goes wrong with the installer right after I confirm the ssh keys fetched from my github account and I get prompted to report this to canonical. Is there a workaround besides moving on without imported keys?
[07:15] <murmel> ExeciN: it's probably better to ask in #ubuntu-server
[07:15] <ExeciN> I mean I can set up key authentication later but doing it through vnc is a PitA. I have to somehow aquire the keys (I can maybe post each one on termbin), create/populate .ssh/authorized_keys, change permissions for .ssh and authorized_keys, modify /etc/ssh/sshd_config, reload sshd
[07:15] <ExeciN> murmel: ok
[09:22] <masber> hi, so I have ubuntu running in my laptop. Virtualbox told me there is a new update so I downloaded the deb package, now I am trying to install it and the Ubuntu Store pops up asking me to remove the package?
[09:23] <masber> why?
[09:24] <ravage> masber, open a terminal. go to the download directory and run "sudo apt install ./your-vbox-update.deb"
[09:25] <ravage> in general Ubuntu comes with it's own tools like virt-manager to manage VMs. maybe give that one a try
[09:31] <toddc> masber: there are two versions one from the ubuntu repos you are using the one from Oracle which is a newer un-tested version so yes remove and install or wait for the repo vesion
[09:33] <toddc> masber: you can add the oracle repo and always have the newest but it may have bugs
[09:41] <tomreyn> in my experience, the builds provided by the oracle virtualbox repository work better than the ones provided in ubuntu's multiverse repositories.
[09:46] <masber> same for me
[09:53] <elderbard> hello everybody!
[09:53] <BayouBilly> elderbard hello
[09:53] <elderbard> How are you today? @BayouBilly
[09:54] <elderbard> Just installed Lubuntu along side my Win10 and decided to try out this app Quassel
[09:54] <BayouBilly> tired after upgrading for several days to get zoom and a few things working better
[09:54] <elderbard> How has that worked out so far?
[09:55] <elderbard> I remember using FreeBSD once. Took me a week to try get my graphics card to work
[09:55] <elderbard> that was a nightmare lol
[09:55] <elderbard> What is this channel for mostly? and where can I find other channels?
[09:55] <BayouBilly> elderbard well i made a zoom voice contact yesterday...using a jack sink for pulse
[09:55] <ogra> this channel is for ubuntu support questions ...
[09:56] <elderbard> Oh I see. my bad. thanks @ogra
[09:56] <ogra> if you want to generally discuss ubuntu stuff, please go to #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <BayouBilly> elderbard  i was going to check out the ghostbsd when i get a chance
[09:57] <elderbard> ghostbsd is nice. it sorted the graphics issue out. they have a Telegram group if you need quick assists
[09:57] <BayouBilly> and see how that is coming along
[09:57] <elderbard> @ogra I'll check those
[09:58] <BayouBilly> well i heard they got the mate gui working on ghostbsd
[09:58] <ravage> !ot | BayouBilly
[09:58] <BayouBilly> ubottu ok
[11:27] <iomari891> greetings, why are my servers accessing cloudfront?
[11:27] <ravage> because some process on your server connects to it
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:42] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj: afternoon
[12:42] <gordonjcp> wie gehts?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> 'morning gordonjcp :-)
[12:55] <rs2009> BluesKaj: evening
[12:56] <BluesKaj> rs2009, 👋🏾
[14:05] <JerOfPanic> hi all :) got a new server
[14:05] <JerOfPanic> Ubuntu 22 and 12 gigs RAM, 240 gigs HD, 8 cores
[14:06] <JerOfPanic> at home I have Ubuntu 22 with 8 gigs RAM
[14:06] <BayouBilly> 12 gigs ram..what are you going to do  compile libreoffice
[14:06] <JerOfPanic> 4 cores
[14:06] <JerOfPanic> BayouBilly: relational databases
[14:06] <JerOfPanic> a news engine
[14:06] <BayouBilly> oh serious stuff
[14:07] <tomreyn> JerOfPanic: congrats on the new server. do you have an ubuntu support question about it?
[14:08] <BayouBilly> jeofpanic are you going to use that free mariadb or the apache nonsql database
[14:10] <BayouBilly> jerofpanic i once did some database stuff for an auction server that everyone could use but i got tired of messing with it
[14:11] <BayouBilly> jeropanic i just leave it to ebay now
[14:12] <ogra> BayouBilly, do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[14:12] <BayouBilly> ogra not at this time but i am getting some gnome shell crashes and seahorse crashes from time to time
[14:13] <ogra> BayouBilly, well, this channel is reserved for support, if you want general chatter about new servers or some such, please take it to #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:13] <BayouBilly> ogra ok i was just asking about his new ubuntu database server
[14:14] <ogra> right, do that in #ubuntu-discuss ... there it is fine 🙂
[14:14] <BayouBilly> ogra ok
[14:24] <JerOfPanic> BayouBilly: I am interested on seeing this box in vaction
[14:24] <JerOfPanic> BayouBilly: my previous server was double core, this is octa core
[14:24] <JerOfPanic> so it will outperform surely
[14:27] <BayouBilly> jerofpanic ok ogra says to discuss the ubuntu server in #ubuntu-discuss
[14:27] <ogra> 👍
[14:33] <JerOfPanic> BayouBilly: okay heading to there? coming?
[14:34] <BayouBilly> JerOfPanic yes i am in ubuntu-discuss now
[14:42] <VIA> hey quick question
[14:42] <VIA> can i ~generally find out what my Computer (linux) was UPTo at arount a curente point in time? ( like backwards 2 weeks ~)?
[14:43] <user9d> sure
[14:43] <lubuntu> You can use atop -r to find out
[14:44] <user9d> VIA: go into /var/log and go:    find -type f -ls    #look at the dates, and find ones that are old
[14:47] <lubuntu> If you just want to make sure your computer was running and for how long, enter "uptime"
[14:54] <jhutchins> Two weeks seems a bit long.
[14:59] <jhutchins> Looks like the default is 30 days though, so VIA should be fine.
[15:29] <Airwolf> Greetings. Just installed Ubuntu server 22.04.1, is working ok, but getting a message uon login regarding Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts. Anyone know if that's on their end?
[15:32] <VIA> jhutchins: how to i save/get the data ?
[15:32] <VIA> oh ic user9d described smthn
[15:33] <VIA> ty
[15:35] <VIA> <3
[15:44] <ioria> Airwolf, do you have this file ? /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available
[15:45] <Airwolf> ioria, yes, I do
[15:46] <ioria> Airwolf, is it empty ?
[15:47] <Airwolf> It contains the error I get when logging in
[15:48] <ioria> Airwolf, so, copy it to release-upgrade-available.back and then  sudo truncate -s 0  release-upgrade-available , and login again
[15:51] <Airwolf> Ok, fixed.. A glitch?
[15:52] <ioria> nope, and old bug i guess
[15:53] <Airwolf> Likely to reoccur, then. I did see a few search results several years old when trying to google it
[15:53] <ioria> yep
[15:53] <Airwolf> Thanks
[15:54] <Airwolf> Maybe I'll just disable that part of the motd.
[15:54] <ioria> no prob, basically,that file it's not cleared
[15:54] <Airwolf> Thanks, I don't like errors on a new system.
[15:55] <ioria> yeah
[15:56] <user9d> errors on a new system is scary because there is a 3% chance you have to return the hardware and get something else
[15:58] <user9d> like for example I go to Best Buy to get the newest Mac OSX Apple laptop [to put Xubuntu 22.04 on it] only to find that the LiveUSB that I burned with unetbootin is 0% booting.
[15:58] <Airwolf> Not something I want to do, as the reason for this rebuild is a power supply that went bad and took the motherboard/cpu and 3 hard drives with it.
[15:59] <user9d> awww I'm sorry Airwolf
[15:59] <ioria> anti-surge disabled ?
[16:00] <user9d> all of the anti-surge protection must've fried as well.
[16:01] <ioria> wow
[16:01] <Airwolf> Anyway.. I have a good handle on how ipv4 works, but not so much with ipv6. Since I don't understand it, I can't firewall it, so I've just been disabling it system wide on prior builds. Are there any good sites that explain how ipv6 works, and how to firewall it with ufw/iptables?
[16:02] <Airwolf> I've got this connected to an APC UPS, so I don't think it was an external spike.. I think the power supply itself died, and sent a voltage spike to the board, drives, everything
[16:03] <ioria> #netfilter might help you , i guess Airwolf
[16:03] <Airwolf> Hmmm.. didn't know there was a channel for it.
[16:12] <Airwolf> Guess I'll leave ipv6 disabled till I have time to learn it so I can firewall it
[16:12] <Airwolf> Thanks for the help
[16:18] <SoCkEt7> bash
[16:19] <tomreyn> SoCkEt7: what do you mean?
[16:20] <ogra> no bashing in here ! 🙂
[16:20] <ogra> (except bashing-om indeed)
[16:22] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: hi, glad you made it here from #ubuntustudio. so i understand that you have a Lenovo AIO 520-27ICB with this NVME SSD installed https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/174d562104ae92ca49f5c0a56bbf3f339bc6a05d as well as a HDD which you installed ubuntustudio on. but you are saying your computer does not recognize the NVME SSD. is this correct?
[16:24] <tomreyn> if that's so, then i wonder how you created this "lspci" output, though, since this shows that linux did detect the nvme ssd.
[16:24] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: so, in order to finish my ideea, the strange/funny fact is that once i realised that no linux distro will 'see' the SSD drive, i tried reinstallind Windows only to have the big surprise that couldn't do that. The setup installer returned an info right from the start that windows cannot be installed because of some drivers missing.  There was no info regarding of what driver specifically is missing.
[16:26] <tomreyn> i see. that's a good additional piece of information to have, but i'm afraid we can only help with ubuntu and its official flavors (such as ubuntustudio) here.
[16:27] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: if you could respond to the "lspci" question above, this may help us further. it would also be good to know whether you can still boot ubuntustudio on it and still get this output from lspci now.
[16:27] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: i have the same unclarity. I dont know how and why the ssd appears in sistem monitor / PCI
[16:28] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: Does it show up in the BIOS/EFI?
[16:28] <cojmeliegrigore[> Ubuntu studio is the only OS i'm using on this pc
[16:28] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes, the SSD shows in BIOS
[16:28] <tomreyn> i'm guessing that it just has no partition table on it
[16:29] <tomreyn> and thus you assume that ubuntustudio does "not detect" it (when lspci clearly shows it does detect it)
[16:29] <ogra> cat /proc/partitions | grep nvme
[16:29] <ogra> should show if there are any
[16:30] <ogra> ... hmm or you could save the cat and just do "grep nvme /proc/partitions" ...
[16:30] <genii> tomreyn: Possibly the device is seen but unclaimed by a driver
[16:31] <ogra> then it would not show up
[16:31] <tomreyn> genii: yes, this could be
[16:31] <tomreyn> i guess we'll need more info from cojmeliegrigore[ either way.
[16:34] <cojmeliegrigore[> please, tell me how to proceed. This situation is busting my brains out for the last month. and i will be honest, i don't have yet enough info, but i'm eager to learn.
[16:37] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: suggestions were already provided above. does it help to repeat those?
[16:38] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: ogra suggested that you (open a terminal window and) run this command: grep nvme /proc/partitions
[16:38] <tomreyn> ...and then tell us what the output is
[16:39] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: if you refer to suggestions posted by ogra , the commands do not return any result
[16:39] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: okay, that's valuable information.
[16:39] <ogra> yeah, looks like there is definitely no partition table
[16:40] <ogra> do you have a /dev/nvme0 device ?
[16:40] <ogra> (and a /dev/nvme0n1 perhaps ?)
[16:41] <tomreyn> you can use the     ls /dev/nvme0*     command to find out
[16:41] <ogra> yeah
[16:42] <cojmeliegrigore[> ls cannot acces /dev/nvme0*. no such file or directory
[16:42] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: would you also be okay with sharing your system log from when ubuntustudio started up? this log can contain unique hardware identifiers.
[16:43] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: you can use this command to share the most relevant part of your log:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:43] <tomreyn> it will print a http address you can post here
[16:43] <cojmeliegrigore[> honestly i have no privacy issues and nothing to hide
[16:46] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: should I only run the command ?
[16:46] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: you should run the comand and post here the http address it returns.
[16:47] <cojmeliegrigore[> or there is anyhting else to do, because i have ran the command and it has no output
[16:47] <ogra> it should return a url
[16:47] <cojmeliegrigore[> it doesnt't return anything
[16:47] <tomreyn> is this computer online, though?
[16:47] <ogra> (and then return you to the input prompt)
[16:48] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: what do you mean if is the computer online ?
[16:48] <cojmeliegrigore[> i'm typing from this pcv
[16:48] <cojmeliegrigore[> pc*
[16:48] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: whether it is connected to a network which lets it access the internet.
[16:48] <tomreyn> okay, then it is
[16:48] <tomreyn> let's try this as a test:   echo HELLO | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:49] <tomreyn> does this one return a http address?
[16:49] <tomreyn> by "return" i mean, does it print it, on the terminal window you're running it on?
[16:50] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes, i know what 'return' stands for
[16:50] <cojmeliegrigore[> i'm not that well informed, not an idiot
[16:50] <cojmeliegrigore[> and yes
[16:51] <user9d> cool then we're clear. crystal.
[16:51] <cojmeliegrigore[> the last command returns this : https://termbin.com/tydc
[16:51] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: sorry, i don't mean to suggest you are an idiot, just making sure i explained myself well enough. ;)
[16:52] <enigma9o7[m]> journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:52] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: great, this worked! if you access this in your web browser you will see the "HELLO" got posted online
[16:52] <tomreyn> so the command enigma9o7[m] just posted again should really also post a http address
[16:52] <tomreyn> err print
[16:53] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes when I acces browser it shows " HELLO
[16:54] <tomreyn> then let's try again:    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:55] <cojmeliegrigore[> nope
[16:55] <cojmeliegrigore[> the same, no return
[16:56] <tomreyn> what does this print?    lsb_release -ds
[16:58] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: lsb_release -ds returns Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS
[16:58] <tomreyn> oh so you install Ubuntu and not UbuntuStudio, i see
[16:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> tomreyn: lsb_release always returns Ubuntu because all flavors return Ubuntu.
[16:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> Hence, all flavors are not their own distrol.
[17:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> s/all/official
[17:00] <tomreyn> oh, i was thinking they would differ, thanks Eickmeyer[m]
[17:01] <jhutchins> Ubuntu Studio is Ubuntu with selected packages, it doesn't operate any differently.
[17:01] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: Still, the earlier command should have worked. Maybe it it too slow. Lets try this instead:     journalctl -b >/tmp/journal 2>&1; cat /tmp/journal | nc termbin.com 9999 || echo error
[17:02] <funhouse> using 18.04 on aws, trying to extend drive from 2000 GB to 2500 GB, getting this error -->
[17:02] <funhouse> WARNING: MBR/dos partitioned disk is larger than 2TB. Additional space will go unused.
[17:02] <funhouse> NOCHANGE: partition 1 is size 4294965248. it cannot be grown
[17:02] <funhouse> found this --> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/429507/cannot-extend-partition-beyond-2tb-on-aws-ubuntu
[17:02] <funhouse> Is it ok to run this? or am i gonna lose everything
[17:03] <jhutchins> funhouse: You'll only loose things that you don't have on backup.
[17:03] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: 'journalctl -b >/tmp/journal 2>&1; cat /tmp/journal | nc termbin.com 9999 || echo error ' this command also returns nothing
[17:04] <jhutchins> What's the double pipe do?
[17:04] <funhouse> jhutchins that sounds like something thats straight out of art of war or something
[17:04] <funhouse> jhutchins id rather not create an image and extend it like right now tho
[17:05] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: can you take a screenshot and upload it at imgur.com please?
[17:06] <tomreyn> jhutchins: irf the previous command returned a non zero exit code, the part behind double pipes is executes. it's like a logical OR
[17:07] <jhutchins> funhouse: There may be ways to cheat on this, but you really need to repartition your drive using GPT instead of FAT.  Messing with partitons you have a chance of saving/recovering the data, but it's a lot easier to just reformat and restore.
[17:07] <enigma9o7[m]> funhouse, you can mbr2gpt before
[17:07] <jhutchins> tomreyn: Oh, or-or.
[17:07] <funhouse> jhutchins ok
[17:07] <jhutchins> I was thinking of it as a pipe.
[17:08] <funhouse> enigma9o7[m] hmm, so just run that command with the drive?
[17:08] <funhouse> enigma9o7[m] like mbr2gp /dev/xvda  ?
[17:10] <tomreyn> funhouse: whichever tool you use, you're replacing your partition table, which is, per se, a dangerous process. you have been warned.
[17:10] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: i cannot register to imgur.com account not possible in my region
[17:11] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: as far as i know it does not require registration. maybe you can just post the image here, in matrix?
[17:11] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: let us know when you did, though
[17:11]  * cojmeliegrigore[ uploaded an image: (376KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/AySyhUxolNqzSFnJVHHsqrYJ/Screenshot_20220901_200709.png >
[17:11] <arraybolt3[m]> (IRC users can see images posted right into the chat via Matrix.)
[17:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Got it!
[17:11] <jhutchins> enigma9o7[m]: Isn't mbr2gpt a Microsoft tool?  Requires Windows?
[17:13] <arraybolt3[m]> tomreyn: screenshot showed up (I think you asked to be alerted when that happened)
[17:13] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: thanks, the image has arrived.
[17:15]  * tomreyn is on the phone, could somebody continue?
[17:28] <ceibal> hi
[17:31] <kushalkumaran> cojmeliegrigore: is /tmp/journal empty? No response from termbin could mean that. I don't know if it has a maximum size limit that also results in no output.
[17:32] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: sorry, i got distracted. can you maybe post the /tmp/journal file here as an attachment?
[17:33] <tomreyn> kushalkumaran: i think termbin has a 1000 line limit, but i'd rather bet on network issues with the command not working, or a slow computer causing it to close the socket before the content got uploaded.
[17:34] <kushalkumaran> One of the reasons I prefer positive response based protocols like http.
[17:35] <kushalkumaran> I would bring out strace and tcpdump at this point...
[17:36]  * cojmeliegrigore[ posted a file: (0KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CzSHSvFbOoIPuxvsVwEGqAmb/journal.txt >
[17:36] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: apparently this is indeed empty. what does    wc -l /tmp/journal     say?
[17:38] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[:    and can you try this as well - does it return a http address?    dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:38] <cojmeliegrigore[> no wait
[17:38] <cojmeliegrigore[> i think i did somethhimng wrong
[17:38] <tomreyn> what would that be?
[17:39]  * cojmeliegrigore[ posted a file: journal (1895KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/hnegEJVaSovgiyqXQPVrJLub >
[17:39] <cojmeliegrigore[> here
[17:39] <cojmeliegrigore[> somehow i messed up and sent the empty file
[17:41] <tomreyn> right, this worked :)
[17:41] <Guest80> Hey
[17:41] <tomreyn> hi Guest80, got an ubuntu support question?
[17:42] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: i see you tried to boot this computer with a special linux parameter, nvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500, probably in an attempt to make the NVME work?
[17:43] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: did you edit /etc/default/grub to make this work?
[17:44] <funhouse> tomreyn thank you
[17:45] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: if so, edit it again and make sure there is a blank space (" ") in front of the "nvme....", and then run sudo update-grub
[17:45] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes i have tried to boot with 'nvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500'. i found this help on some site, i dont even remember where. I have searched on too many places
[17:45] <tomreyn> it's a good suggestion. but you made a little mistake there so it did not actually apply.
[17:45] <cojmeliegrigore[> o i do not remember if i edited the '/etc/default/grub'
[17:46] <Guest80> @tomreyn How do I know which version of GRUB is being used by Ubuntu 22 (without installing it) ?
[17:46] <tomreyn> !info grub2 jammy
[17:47] <tomreyn> Guest80: ^ this is one way. or you could search on https://packages.ubuntu.com
[17:47] <tomreyn> Guest80: or, on a 22.04 system, you could run:  apt policy grub2
[17:49] <Guest80> Thanks
[17:49] <Guest80> According to this:
[17:49] <Guest80> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/grub2
[17:49] <Guest80> Its says "dummy package"
[17:49] <Guest80> What does it mean ?
[17:50] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: so i suggest you edit it now, and add     nvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500     within in the quotation marks on the    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT   line. make sure there is both a blank space (" ") before and after this option. and then run    sudo update-grub    and reboot
[17:51] <tomreyn> Guest80: that i'm a dummy and i picked the wrong package
[17:51] <tomreyn> Guest80: it really means that grub2 used to exist as a package and is just a placegolder / reference to the actual package now, which is grub-pc
[17:51] <ogra> !info grub2-signed
[17:52] <ogra> pfft
[17:52] <ogra> does the bot not know source package names ?
[17:52] <ogra> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed
[17:52] <Guest80> tomreyn Thanks!
[17:52] <ogra> thats the one installed by default (on UEFI systems at least)
[17:53] <ioria> consider that on 22.04.1 is 2.04-1ubuntu26.2
[17:53] <ogra> grub-pc is the one used for legacy BIOS hardware
[17:54] <tomreyn> ogra: thanks, you're right
[17:55] <ogra> grub really became a maze of random packages over the recent years 😕
[17:56]  * ogra wants lilo back ... one package, single config file, cant go wrong 😛
[17:57] <jhutchins> whois cojmeliegrigore[
[17:58] <ogra> now you can as well just ask 🙂
[18:03] <jhutchins> ogra: I liked lilo better than grub, but having to rebuild it every time I installed got tiresome and I gave in to grub.
[18:05] <ogra> yeah, i wasn't really serious though 🙂
[18:06] <ogra> (when having to work with bootloader stuff i *do* prefer u-boot over grub though ... grub more likely causing headdaches than u-bot ... )
[18:06] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: i'm not sure whether you're still around. if you are, try the suggestions provided above. you may also want to look into upgrading the NVME firmware.
[18:06] <cojmeliegrigore[> jhutchins: i am cojmelie
[18:08] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: I was wondering where you were from that you couldn't register.  Whois shows ipv6 which is harder to tell, it thinks you're either in California or London.
[18:08] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: i followed the steps and when i run the command it returned this
[18:09] <cojmeliegrigore[> Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub'
[18:09] <cojmeliegrigore[> /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 10: /etc/default/grub: nvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500: not found
[18:10] <ogra> jhutchins, there is a london in california 😉
[18:10] <cojmeliegrigore[> jhutchins: i am neither in california nor london
[18:10] <jhutchins> ogra: Yes, but not Cheswic.
[18:12] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: Is your problem still that you don't see your ssd in studio?
[18:12] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes jhutchins . i still don't see the ssd drive
[18:15] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: Is youre system installed to a different drive?
[18:17] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes i mentioned earlier, my pc came with 2 storage drives : the SSD - 512 GB and a 3.5' HDD - 1TB. After the "dissapereance" of the SSD i used the HDD . Here i have installed studio.
[18:18] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: something must have gone wrong when you edited /etc/default/grub, please post the (one) line you edited here.
[18:20] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: tomreyn is back, sorry to distract you.
[18:21] <cojmeliegrigore[> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=" quiet splash " nvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500
[18:21] <cojmeliegrigore[> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[18:21] <tomreyn> thanks for helping out there, jhutchins
[18:22] <cojmeliegrigore[> jhutchins:thanks
[18:23] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: make it this instead:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500 "
[18:23] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: and keep the    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""    line as it is
[18:23] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: then run     sudo update-grub     again
[18:24] <tomreyn> and tell us what it says.
[18:26] <cojmeliegrigore[> well it returned this : cojmelie@cojmelie-studio:~$ sudo update-grub... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/ebe8269b141d187ded0d23b2ce6d7c0d32861945)
[18:26] <cojmeliegrigore[> it seems that this time worked.  right ?
[18:26] <ogra> yep, looks good
[18:28] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: i agree, looks good. so reboot again, and see whether lsblk then shows the nvme ssd
[18:29] <FlorianBad> What is the equivalent of /etc/rc.d/rc.local  in ubuntu?
[18:30] <ogra> FlorianBad, create a script and a systemd unit ...
[18:30] <ogra> (a "oneshot" daemon unit)
[18:30] <tomreyn> FlorianBad: there's none in systemdland. you'd write a proper systmed unit. for those who are too lazy, there's a templace for a unit which behaves similar to what rc.local did
[18:30] <tomreyn> *templaTe
[18:31] <tomreyn> (*too lazy to manage their system properly)
[18:32] <Guest3738> hello
[18:33] <FlorianBad> tomreyn: I'm not sure I understand that part. I'm writing a script that installs these boot scripts, so it has to be as simple as possible, there's going to be no manual stuff
[18:34] <ogra> FlorianBad, so you change your script to create systemd units instead ...
[18:34] <FlorianBad> There isn't a single place where a script can be executed at the end of the boot?
[18:34] <morganu> 20.04  Can I get a shortcut to a Chrome page on my desktop.
[18:34] <FlorianBad> ok... I have no idea what that is but at least I have a keyword to google now
[18:35] <FlorianBad> why make this complicated really... :-/
[18:35] <FlorianBad> It's exactly why I love slackware
[18:35] <enigma9o7[m]> Yes morganu.
[18:35] <FlorianBad> because other distros have all that BS
[18:36] <enigma9o7[m]> If you really want.
[18:36] <morganu> enigma9o7[m], oops there it is under "more tools"
[18:38] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: i am back! i rebooted and now i ran lsblk and it returned loops from 1 to 14, sda which is the HDD and sr0 - the dvdrom
[18:38] <cojmeliegrigore[> still no SSD
[18:38] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: what's the output of: cat /proc/cmdline
[18:39] <cojmeliegrigore[> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency root=UUID=c7729c4e-485c-4ff9-bc0b-c9e3831bd661 ro threadirqs quiet splashnvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500
[18:40] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: interesting, it's still the same typo, the missing space between "splash" and "nvme...."
[18:40] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: can you attach file /etc/default/grub please
[18:41]  * cojmeliegrigore[ posted a file: grub (1KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/YkZdKcmcWLxVSEozGRYQKuhh >
[18:41] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: thanks, and now also attach file /etc/default/grub.d/init-select.cfg
[18:42]  * cojmeliegrigore[ posted a file: (0KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/wmypXcnoiUpppAOjJNMdoQOm/init-select.cfg >
[18:44] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: okay, those look fine. please also attach /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:45]  * cojmeliegrigore[ posted a file: (10KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/DRBUKELtsVNZvUEmJDbRVMYM/grub.cfg >
[18:46] <johnfg> hi folks
[18:47] <johnfg> tightvnc server is running without any errors.  However, when I try to connect it fails, and this is the error:
[18:48] <ogra> cojmeliegrigore[, is there really no space between "splash" and "nvme" in the "cat /proc/cmdline" output (there needs to be)
[18:48] <johnfg> Failed to configure: Unsupported session type
[18:48] <jhutchins> johnfg: What client are you using, on what platform?
[18:49] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: apparently your installed grub loaded a configuration file from a different location
[18:49] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: that, or you did nt actually reboot, but i think you would know that.
[18:49] <johnfg> I'm using UltraVNC (at present) on Win10.
[18:50]  * cojmeliegrigore[ uploaded an image: (515KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/KnnwcZBwDVGYoAWzGEAgOZnA/Screenshot_20220901_214932.png >
[18:50] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: i did rebooted
[18:51] <johnfg> I'll try from debian in a minute, after I switch systems.
[18:51] <jhutchins> tomreyn: update-grub, grub-install?
[18:51] <tomreyn> jhutchins: we did update-grub, grub-install should not be needed.
[18:52] <tomreyn> but yes, maybe we should just grub-install, too
[18:53] <jhutchins> johnfg: I would suspect an incompatible default configuration on UltraVNC.  TightVNC has a windows client, maybe start there.
[18:53] <jhutchins> johnfg: https://www.tightvnc.com/winst.php
[18:53] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: run: sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[18:53] <jhutchins> tomreyn: +
[18:54] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: please post the output of this command
[18:55] <cojmeliegrigore[> sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f43df66f8bae19e521965afd8d812c3eb6ecc81c)
[18:56] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: please reboot again and post    cat /proc/cmdline     again
[18:57] <cojmeliegrigore[> sure do
[18:58] <ogra> this smells like a bug in grub-mkconfg TBH
[18:58] <tomreyn> how so, ogra?
[18:58] <ogra> i wonder if the stray space in /etc/grub/default causes it
[18:59] <tomreyn> the grub.cfg has "splash" and "nvme..." separated by a blank space everywhere
[18:59] <ogra> (the one before the closing quotes)
[19:00] <tomreyn> hmm, i had it added exactly to prevent such issues
[19:01] <tomreyn> i rather think the system bios is set to boot a different grub and that is set to load a different grub.cfg
[19:01] <tomreyn> but this also doesn't seem too likely
[19:01] <cojmeliegrigore[> cojmelie@cojmelie-studio:~$ cat /proc/cmdline
[19:01] <cojmeliegrigore[> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency root=UUID=c7729c4e-485c-4ff9-bc0b-c9e3831bd661 ro threadirqs quiet splash nvme.core.default_ps_max_latency_us=5500 vt.handoff=1
[19:01] <cojmeliegrigore[> cojmelie@cojmelie-studio:~$
[19:02] <tomreyn> it worked this time, good
[19:02] <tomreyn> do you have the ssd listed on lsblk now?
[19:02] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes it did
[19:03] <tomreyn> so do you see nvme...something when you run "lsblk"?
[19:03] <cojmeliegrigore[> no, not visible in lsblk
[19:03] <tomreyn> hmm, okay. did this nvme work in the past?
[19:04]  * cojmeliegrigore[ uploaded an image: (568KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/cpZutmtXvQOIqjtepQSzvPQg/Screenshot_20220901_220352.png >
[19:05] <tomreyn> when did it stop working exactly? was that what primpted you to install ubuntu and other operating systems, or was it the other way around?
[19:06] <jhutchins> What about manually supplying a correct boot command line?  (maybe escape the space?)
[19:06] <cojmeliegrigore[> yes, in the first instance i didn't removed completely windows. i ran windows from the ssd and ubuntu on hdd. the ssd was visible in ubuntu too. somehow i do not really remember how i removed completely windows
[19:06] <jhutchins> Have we already tried that?
[19:06] <cojmeliegrigore[> and after that moment the ssd vanished
[19:07] <tomreyn> jhutchins: replacing the installed grub solved the issue of the system booting with the wrong grub.cfg, this is no longer an issue.
[19:07] <jhutchins> Ach, sorry, not following closely enough.
[19:08] <tomreyn> no worries
[19:09] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: so i think it would be good to update the firmware on it, if you can get it to do so.
[19:09] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: this may make it loose any data, though, if that matters
[19:09] <jhutchins> I suppose we could try installing a stock kernel and see if that made a difference.
[19:09] <tomreyn> it's a stock kernel
[19:10] <cojmeliegrigore[> if u refer to the data on the ssd, i have no hope to recover anything
[19:10] <jhutchins> It seems to be a low-latency kernel, or did I miss that too?
[19:10] <tomreyn> yes, it's ubuntu's stock low-latency kernel ;)
[19:11] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: Any time you're messing with disk structures, you run the risk of an error, even just a human "oops", so backups are in order.
[19:11] <jhutchins> Well, y'know, try high-latency.  Turn it off and back on again.
[19:12] <jhutchins> Not seeing a drive would seem to be a kernel-level problem.
[19:12] <cojmeliegrigore[> regarding the firmware update, i think i already read about this option and tried but i didnt succed. i have tried to dowload updated firmware from manufacturer's site
[19:12] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: so one possibility is that the nvme has just died. that's why i was asking about the series of events. maybe you noticed the nvme no longer worked, and in an attempt to make it work again, you started installing different operating systems. if this is what happened, i would assume the nvme may just be dead.
[19:13] <cojmeliegrigore[> and it is only available for windows
[19:13] <cojmeliegrigore[> another option io haven't tried
[19:14] <cojmeliegrigore[> i have thought about this possibillity
[19:14] <cojmeliegrigore[> i can buy an external usb adapter for ssd and see if it works
[19:15] <cojmeliegrigore[> what do you think, should i try this >
[19:15] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: if you like, it could be interesting to review your current system journal again, because we haven't seen it after you successfully made the system boot with the new kernel parameter
[19:15] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: journalctl -b > /tmp/journal.txt     and then post /tmp/journal.txt here
[19:16] <tomreyn> attach, i mean
[19:16]  * cojmeliegrigore[ posted a file: (302KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/oohUtbGeyJIEAXByeZBmyJyO/journal.txt >
[19:21] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: Have you done anything physically with the SSD?  Maybe try it in a different slot?  (Cheaper and faster than an adapter.)
[19:21] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: so the nvme no longer times out during initialization now, but it still does present several errors
[19:21] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: my guess is that it's really just dead, but i am not really familiar enough with nvme's to help you diagnose this properly.
[19:22] <c_89> Hi I have this sample text https://pastebin.com/raw/qshU8X7d that I should insert in conky config file, but being present the images tag I'm finding it difficult if I have to use the ${offset} or ${tab} tag to keep the images aligned with the text, I state that I used the Dejavu Sans Mono font on conky. I accept your advice
[19:22] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: if you look at the log, these     pcieport 0000:00:1c.6    lines are what indicates the problem
[19:23] <tomreyn> oh, actually it still times out during initilization, i just missed it
[19:24] <cojmeliegrigore[> jhutchins: i haven't done anything with the ssd drive.
[19:24] <jhutchins> cojmeliegrigore[: I agree with tomreyn, that looks like a serious hardware error.
[19:25] <cojmeliegrigore[> tomreyn: i understand and i am very gratefull for your help and implication
[19:26] <cojmeliegrigore[> even if practically the output is kinda sad for me
[19:26] <cojmeliegrigore[> you guys are really helpfull
[19:33] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: you're welcome, sorry for not being able to revive it. there are nvme-tools and it may be possible to install the firmware upgrade from linux. but ID the nvme is dead this won't work / wont revive it
[19:33] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: the software you'd be using on windows is https://support-en.wd.com/app/products/product-detailweb/p/1534#WD_downloads
[19:41] <cojmeliegrigore[> i understand tomreyn . i wil try this method, and if i will succed i'll write to you
[19:42] <cojmeliegrigore[> with special thanks
[19:49] <tomreyn> cojmeliegrigore[: :) good luck!
[20:29] <oerheks> cojmeliegrigore[, last resort, reseat the nvme drive; remove, go into bios, save, shutdown, reseat nvme, boot into bios if it shows; save, boot again
[20:31] <dorcas> put in in your tshirt and blow on it
[20:31] <sarnold> :D
[20:34] <oerheks> yes, it might be hot.
[20:34] <genii> Test that it's not hot enough to burn your fingers before reseating
[20:35] <oerheks> genii, what if it makes water boil??
[20:36] <rob0> put on a cup of tea?
[20:37] <genii> oerheks: Then you might want to wait a while first
[20:49] <horse9>  /quit
[20:53] <FlorianBad> When I change the sshd port, it's not enough to handle firewalling with my own iptables boot scripts? I've just read there is something called "ufw"? Could that prevent my new port from working after boot despite my iptables scripts?
[20:56] <murmel> FlorianBad: by default ufw is disabled, so very unlikely (except you enabled it)
[20:56] <FlorianBad> systemctl status ufw  :  Active: active (exited) since Thu 2022-09-01 20:46:14 UTC; 9min ago
[20:56] <FlorianBad> (did not enable it)
[20:57] <murmel> FlorianBad: "sudo ufw status verbose"
[20:58] <FlorianBad> Sorry got stuck out of the server after silly mistake. Will re-install it and check that soon.
[20:58] <rob0> You can indeed open and close ports in a firewall, the "old fashioned" way.
[20:58] <FlorianBad> So if I understand correctly, ufw is something that calls iptables at boot? Then it's gone?
[20:59] <rob0> But ufw rules could conflict with your rules.
[20:59] <rob0> ufw uses nft, not iptables
[20:59] <oerheks> no, ufw uses iptables.
[20:59] <FlorianBad> ok. So if I just do apt-get remove ufw I should be good to handle everything iwth my own scripts?
[20:59] <oerheks> !ufw
[20:59] <murmel> FlorianBad: no ufw is a firewall interface, which interacts with nftables (or iptables on older releases)
[20:59] <rob0> By default iptables-nft(8) is translating iptables rules to nft.
[21:01] <FlorianBad> If I do `apt-get remove -y ufw` after install of the server, then nothing else will interfere with my iptables scripts?
[21:01] <rob0> The move to iptables-nft by default took place some time after 18.04 and before 20.04. It's definitely nft in 20.04 and beyond. (Can be changed with update-alternatives(8).)
[21:03] <murmel> FlorianBad: the command I gave you should tell you that ufw is disabled, which means it doesn't block anything. so it shouldn't interfere
[21:05] <FlorianBad> ok, but there's no better way to disable it for good with an apt-get remove ;)
[21:06] <ogra> it *is* disabled
[21:06] <ogra> unless you explicitly enabled it with the correct commands
[21:06] <murmel> FlorianBad: if you mean the service, just disable it (or even mask)
[21:06] <murmel> but you can remove it also
[21:06] <ogra> by design it is set up so that users can set up their wn iptables rules
[21:06] <ogra> *own
[21:06] <rob0> FlorianBad: you could have iptables/ip6tables or nftables services enabled, which could also interfere with your scripts.
[21:07] <rob0> BTW I also would recommend against such scripts. It's better to use the iptables or nftables service to restore rules at boot time.
[21:08] <FlorianBad> murmel: you're right! It is disabled:   Command 'ufw' not found, but can be installed with:     :)
[21:08] <murmel> FlorianBad: wait, ufw is installed by default
[21:09] <murmel> so, are you using an image from a hoster?
[21:09] <FlorianBad> murmel: I know but afer our conversation I added the apt-get remove to my install scripts so I could then execute the command you gave me ;)
[21:09] <murmel> ahh k
[21:09] <FlorianBad> but hey, since that apt-get is the only thing I changed in my script we'll know if that was in fact enabled. If it works it was.
[21:10] <murmel> FlorianBad: as me and also ogra said, ufw.service is enabled, but the firewall itself is disabled
[21:11] <FlorianBad> murmel: I'm using Vultr right now with a script that copies everything via ssh and then does thing on that server before rebooting. It always worked with other distros but I just switched to Ubuntu so I now need to adapt a few things to make it work. Firewall conflicts are part of these things
[21:11] <ogra> yu need to explicitly enable the ufw tool with the correct ufw commands ... that the no-op service ran says nothing about the status
[21:12] <FlorianBad> I strongly suspect that Vultr would have a custom version of Ubuntu where ufw is enabled by default
[21:12] <murmel> idk, as i never used vultr
[21:12] <ogra> we'll never know ... since you removed it before checking 🙂
[21:14] <FlorianBad> nope, we will know 2 ways:  1. If it works, since the apt-get remove is the only thing I've done...   2. I just found a ton of ufw-* rules in iptables -L INPUT
[21:14] <FlorianBad> so yes it was enabled
[21:18] <ogra> odd ...
[21:18] <ogra> (given the package has everything explicitly disabled by default)
[21:18] <FlorianBad> Vultr must tweak the Ubuntu images
[21:19] <ogra> at that point i personally would look for anoter provider ... who knoesws what else they modify
[21:19] <FlorianBad> yeah...
[21:19] <murmel> I love always to use an actual installer iso. yes it takes longer to get running. but I know, its all default
[21:19] <murmel> or you can upload your own image
[21:19] <ogra> (vultr would theoretically not be allowed to call it ubuntu anymore ... modified images must be called "ubuntu remix" ... they might get mail from canonical 🙂)
[21:20] <FlorianBad> I don't want to advertise Vultr, just to make that clear. Had many issues with them, one of them being to TERMINATE a live server just because they estimated it used to much CPU! madness
[21:20] <FlorianBad> All right, that did it. I could now reboot and connect correctly;)  Thanks!
[21:20] <ogra> good luck 🙂
[21:41] <BinarySavior> hello i'm on ubuntu 21.10 (haven't booted this machine in a while) and i'm having trouble upgrading to 22.04
[21:41] <BinarySavior> apt update fails
[21:45] <BinarySavior> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xrynRyJxH3/
[21:47] <BinarySavior> do i just have install 22.04 from scratch?
[21:47] <enigma9o7[m]> No
[21:47] <enigma9o7[m]> You can switch over to the old archives to get impish working well enough to upgrade.
[21:48] <enigma9o7[m]> There's an official website or wiki or something with instructions that I've seen people link from here, I dunno it myself... hmmm.
[21:49] <enigma9o7[m]> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades I think is the one
[21:49] <BinarySavior> https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-21-10-to-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
[21:49] <BinarySavior> oo okay
[21:49] <BinarySavior> i found this, seems to be working so far, i know it's not official ubuntu tho
[21:50] <enigma9o7[m]> great, if you get stuck again follow up here
[23:53] <sal-mon> Hello, I'm having a very strange issue right now, I turned off my pc (Ubuntu 22.04) and booted it the next morning, but it gave me this error: [End Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt] . So I flashed boot-repair (64 bit) on a usb drive and after numerous workarounds, it's stuck for a long time after this: Running
[23:53] <sal-mon> /scripts/nfs-premount ... done. What can I do now?
[23:54] <sarnold> maybe try the recovery boot options in grub? try holding down shift when booting, and select either a previous kernel, or the recovery mode for one of the various kernels
[23:54] <sal-mon> It's still throwing the same error
[23:55] <sal-mon> sometimes it returns this: kernel panic not syncing attempted to kill init
[23:55] <sal-mon> but sometimes
[23:57] <arraybolt3[m]> sal-mon: Can you still boot a usual Ubuntu 22.04 live USB?
[23:57] <sal-mon> It also throws an error of the same variety, I'll boot it again so I can write down the error
[23:58] <arraybolt3[m]> And... what did you do to your computer? Did you drop it, sit on it, etc.? This sounds like the hardware is throwing a fit to me, especially if a live USB acts the same way.
[23:59] <sal-mon> Thing is, I don't know, nothing out of the ordinary happened, I thought so too, so I got a RAM stick and it's still panicking