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arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: Can you still get into the BIOS settings?00:00
sal-monyes I can00:00
sal-mon(also thank you for helping me)00:00
arraybolt3[m]Also, it would be interesting to know if other alternative operating systems (say, FreeDOS and NetBSD) are able to boot or not.00:00
arraybolt3[m]If FreeDOS can boot, but NetBSD and Linux both fail, that would lead me to believe that maybe the CPU blew a transistor or some such and killed the 64-bit capabilities or something like that.00:01
sal-monI hope it doesn't come to that, I'm downloading a copy of freeDOS right now00:01
arraybolt3[m]You might try opening the thing up and seeing if it's clogged up with dust - maybe there's a short on the motherboard causing the issue.00:01
arraybolt3[m]If it is, carefully dusting it out might not be a bad idea (though discharge yourself on some grounded metal object before starting so that you don't kill the system with static - my best friend once killed a computer with static!).00:02
sal-monIt is dusty, it's acting as a server under the stairs, but wouldn't it just shut down?00:02
murmelhm, did maybe a surge occur? kinda reminds me of mine I had roughly 12 years ago00:02
sal-monit's plugged into a UPS00:02
arraybolt3[m]Also I wonder what MemTest86 does?00:02
sal-monmemtest was stuck on the first test for hours (around 12), that's when I swapped out the RAM00:03
arraybolt3[m]Was it still sticking even after the RAM swap?00:03
sal-monI haven't tried that yet, I'll boot ubuntu off a usb then try memtest again00:04
arraybolt3[m](Fatal exception in interrupt, attempted to kill init, MemTest problems... this is all reeking of hardware failure to me.)00:04
tomreynsal-mon: don't use the "memtester" software if you're referring to that. use the bootable memtest86 or memtest86+00:05
arraybolt3[m]https://www.memtest86.com/00:06
sal-montomreyn: I'm using the memtest that's included in GRUB00:08
tomreynthat's https://www.memtest.org/ then, that's fine if you have older hardware00:08
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: Do you have more than 4 GB RAM?00:09
sal-monI have 8gb of ram00:09
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: I'd try the site I linked to then, Memtest86+ just gets stuck at the 4 GB RAM barrier in my testing.00:09
sarnoldbtw https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmemtest  packaged version of https://github.com/martinwhitaker/pcmemtest  :)00:09
LjLdon't run a 32-bit version of it? ;P00:10
arraybolt3[m](I think they're still using some horribly ancient version of MemTest86+ in Ubuntu. Might be something to look into fixing.)00:10
sarnoldunfortunately only for newer releases, but because it just drops an uefi thingy on disk, it installed on an old xenial system of mine with no effort :D00:10
sal-monoh god, which version of memtest do I install then? the v9.5 beta?00:11
sal-monI really hope that it's something silly, like too much dust on the mobo00:11
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: I'd go with the V4 since it sounds like you have a BIOS system.00:11
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: Here you go: https://www.memtest86.com/downloads/memtest86-4.3.7-usb.tar.gz00:12
sal-monthank you, I'll boot it now and leave it for a while00:13
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: The archive extracts, then it has a .img file inside that you flash to a USB and boot from.00:14
sal-moncan I use ventoy?00:14
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: Probably? I have no clue, but it's worth a shot.00:14
arraybolt3[m]If ventoy doesn't work and you don't feel like fighting with dd, you can probably use balenaEtcher.00:15
sal-monyeah google says ventoy does support img files, thanks again!00:15
murmelsal-mon: ventoy.net says it works00:15
arraybolt3[m]👍️00:15
arraybolt3[m](If you do end up having to use Etcher, make sure to use it on an empty drive or a drive with no important data, since using Etcher to flash a drive will render the rest of the data on the drive inaccessible!)00:16
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tomreynon the other hand you'd get free read-backverification of written data, which might be a good idea if you have to write the usb on *this* computer00:20
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: Also if you do dust out your system, use some non-static-creating material too so you don't fry anything out.00:20
tomreyn(the better option is to download and write the usb on another computer which you know works well)00:20
sal-monI'm flashing freeDOS on my other linux pc right now, is a feather good for anti static dusting?00:21
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: I've used chicken feathers successfully in the past. (Not a joke.)00:22
arraybolt3[m](And now you all probably can tell that I live on what used to be a farm.)00:22
sal-mon(I don't know what type mine is, I appreciate you taking this seriously)00:22
sal-monalrighty, balena says freeDOS doesn't have a bootable partition, sure enough, it said something about not finding a UEFI image, so I'm testing with memtest86 (also flashed with balena) and it's actually testing now! y'all awesome, I'll be back when It's done with a few passes00:28
arraybolt3[m]sal-mon: \o/ Nice!00:29
arraybolt3[m](Also I forgot FreeDOS probably won't work with Etcher, for it you probably will have an easier time using ventoy.)00:31
arraybolt3[m]Oh man, FreeDOS might not even work with ventoy. Nevermind, lets'00:32
arraybolt3[m]s just stick with memtest86.00:32
sal-monoh and if memtest doesn't turn up with any errors, what should I do, other than dusting my pc off (I'll disassemble it completely and dust off everything)00:51
dorcasi had a pc go wonky from dust00:54
dorcasdusted it and worked fine00:54
dorcasused air compressor00:55
sal-monthis gives me hope, I'll do that now, memtest says there are no errors thankfullyu00:55
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somniadaaaaaaaaaaaaa01:43
somniadso probably like, once a month or so, I have to install something that's just not in the main repos01:43
somniadand it takes ages to figure out what's going on and I usually end up giving up or compiling from source or something01:44
somniadlike right now I'm trying to install a more recent version of llvm so I can have c++17 features and everything is pain01:44
enigma9o7[m]wow you'd think after all these months you'd be getting better at it01:45
enigma9o7[m]Sounds rough.01:45
somniadcan someone explain what's going on with this whole thing or point me toward a thing I can read that untangles it because I want to try to just not have this happen again01:46
sarnoldif you want software that's not packaged yet, that's just kind of the way it goes01:46
enigma9o7[m]maybe someone could explain, but you'd hav eto provide more details as to what you've done, maybe share some output, etc.01:47
johnfgjhutchins: Just got back from 2nd job.  Same error when trying to connect with the debian client.01:47
johnfgWhy does, 'echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP' return nothing for me?01:51
enigma9o7[m]cuz nothing set it01:51
enigma9o7[m]obviously :)01:51
enigma9o7[m]maybe lxde or xfce or something?01:51
enigma9o7[m]the desktops that always set it are ones that support wayland01:52
enigma9o7[m]and they'll set it to wayland or x1101:52
enigma9o7[m]but some of the other desktops dont set it at all01:52
enigma9o7[m]i've also seen it say tty sometimes too01:52
enigma9o7[m]So that kinda means you can trust it when it says wayland, but when it says nothing, you can't be 100% sure but its probably x11 or tty.01:54
enigma9o7[m]errr trust it when it says something01:54
enigma9o7[m]but when it says nothing, you can guess its likely x11 or tty, but not surely01:54
enigma9o7[m]@somniad if I were you, I'd setup a VM for development that uses another distro if you need LLVM 15.01:56
sarnoldenigma9o7[m]: btw somniad left nine minutes ago01:56
enigma9o7[m]Then you can run something less stable than ubuntu, but not worry about it too much if something goes wrong, other than your project which is likely just data you could get even if the OS broke or something.01:56
enigma9o7[m]oops01:57
sal-monumm, I just cleaned my pc completely and booted ubuntu on a usb drive, it's currently stuck on: [drm] Initialised amdgpu 3.42.0 20150101 for 0000:26:00.0 on minor 002:47
sal-monso I guess that's better than kernel panicking02:47
sarnoldheh :/02:48
jhutchinssal-mon: What did you have on it before?02:51
jhutchinssal-mon: What image is on the USB?02:52
sal-monjust a regular ubuntu 22.04 install, I had this issue where it would just kernel panic, the kind people here recommended I clean the pc, so I did02:53
sal-monbut now it's stuck on this issue02:53
sal-monoh the cursor stopped blinking02:53
johnfgso, what's the best way to know what desktop is running?02:54
jhutchinssal-mon: Pretty clearly something not quite right with the amd driver.02:54
sal-monout of the frying pan and into the fire02:54
sal-monhow would I start troubleshooting this?02:54
jhutchinsjohnfg: What did you install?  Did you see a menu when you logged in?02:54
jhutchins!install02:55
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate02:55
sal-monyes, ubuntu 22.04 on a live USB, I saw the regular GNU GRUB menu02:55
jhutchinssal-mon: That question was for johnfg, but good.02:55
sal-monoh sorry, it's 5am right now02:56
jhutchinsYeah, I've got to knock off here as well. There are usually some pretty helpful people during US business hours.02:57
Demacleasehello new problem has occurred after using an updated media tool to install ubuntu I was finnally able to install sort of the only thing that comes up is an odd message from GRU GRUB03:32
sal-mon(what's the message)03:34
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DemacleaseMinimal Bash-Like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions.03:35
sal-mondid you click any buttons on the keyboard?03:36
sal-monaccidentally perhaps?03:36
Demacleaseno and pressing shift or esc to try and get to the other GRUB menu during bootup did nothing03:37
Demacleasei just rebooted the system with no input devices plugged in to verify still having the same problem03:44
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Demacleasehello03:52
sheldonpotter04:03
Demaclease?04:04
xcytrejj04:29
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luna__morning 20.04.5 downloaded and updated05:21
wezNice work05:23
webchat16Hi! Is that tzdata kept back a known behavior in 22.04.1 LTS?06:07
arraybolt3[m]webchat16: Probably phased updates once again.06:14
arraybolt3[m]webchat16: Yep, looks like the packages has been 10% phased. Just wait, it will install on your system eventually. (It's held back on mine too.)06:15
alkisgOr run `sudo apt install tzdata` to install it now without waiting for the phased updates06:16
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jackHey there, can someone tell me why I am getting this error. And How to solve it?07:15
jackW: https://packages.microsoft.com/ubuntu/18.04/mssql-server-2019/dists/bionic/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.07:15
downeastjack: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1398344/apt-key-deprecation-warning-when-updating-system07:16
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gest6273hi07:32
jackdowneast: No any solution gien in that site working on my laptop. If you have other solution too . please do send it.07:32
ikoniajack: update your key07:38
jackIkonia: How to update the key.07:39
ikoniajack: read the post Downeast gave you, and read the deprecation section in apt-keys as the error said07:39
Habbiei get the impression the ubuntu:bionic docker hub image was built from proposed instead of updates07:41
Habbiebecause it has libsystemd0 237-3ubuntu10.5407:41
Habbiecan anybody confirm? i cannot install libsystemd-dev because of it07:42
ikoniaconfirm what sorry ?07:42
Habbiethat the docker hub image was built from proposed instead of updates07:43
ikoniamail the maintainer to get a factual response07:43
ikoniaonly someone with access to the compose file will know what it was built from07:43
Habbieoh, they're not public?07:44
ikonia.53 is the latest in the updates repo for bionic, so it certainly doesn't seem to be from core repo07:44
ikoniaHabbie: if they are public, you'll have the same access as the rest of us07:44
ikoniaso you can confirm07:44
Habbieyes - and if i s/updates/proposed/ in sources.list i get 5407:44
ikoniaseems a logical assumption07:45
Habbieta07:45
Habbiewill look for the sources07:45
Habbieok, the docker images are built from https://partner-images.canonical.com/oci/bionic/07:47
Habbiewhere 0815 had .53 and 0829 indeed has .5407:47
ikonianaughty and sloppy07:47
Habbieso the docker maintainer is not to blame - next step, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+ref/ubuntu/master07:47
Habbie(not that i care about blame)07:47
anddamhello, semi-OT but on a fresh installed 22 I see an issue with glibc but I am not sure what it actually is07:48
ikoniasorry, don't see the releveance of that launchpad link ?07:48
anddamI get this python wheel package for linux https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/4c/a1/0562e98d39347530af4b03327bf66dde4a51f2420b64b8e6bfde005d6e70/PySide6_Essentials-6.3.1-cp36-abi3-manylinux_2_28_x86_64.whl07:48
Habbieikonia, that's what builds the rootfs tarballs that the docker image is then also generated from07:49
ikoniaHabbie: so the livecd is shipping a root FS with random out of band packages ?07:49
anddamthis is a zip file (mind you 70 MB), I unzip it and run ldd on PySide6/QtQml.abi3.so and ldd chokes on it, returning 2 without any output07:49
Habbieikonia, it sure looks that way07:49
ikoniaHabbie: even naughtier and sloppier07:50
Habbiewell, mistakes happen, i'm not here to blame or judge, just to find a solution :)07:50
ikoniaI'd certainly log a bug against the docker package and let the maintainer work it out with upstream07:50
ikoniaI'll have a look at the running livecd as I'm interested now07:51
Habbieikonia, oh very good, that saves me time :)07:51
Habbieohh07:57
Habbieikonia, http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/07:57
Habbieikonia, there's a newer 0901 here that fixes it07:57
ikoniaahhh a newer image07:58
ikoniaI'm still curious if it's in the livecd07:58
Habbiehighly depends on what build you grab i think07:59
ikoniajust going to grab the latest, as that's what people should be using07:59
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ikoniafixing an obsolete problem doesn't make sense to me07:59
Habbiei agree08:00
Habbiei've asked in #ubuntu-cloud if they can do a rebuild of the docker image with the 0901 version, as that should fix all08:00
ikoniaahhh so there is a disjoint there too, the image has been updated, but the cloud images are still using the old one08:01
Habbiehttp://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/ has 0901; https://partner-images.canonical.com/oci/bionic/ does not; and presumably docker images are built from the latter08:02
Habbiesomebody in #ubuntu-cloud is going to have a look08:07
ikoniawell that feels like a win08:09
Habbieyep08:09
Habbiethank you for thinking with me :)08:09
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towserwhen trying to run sudo apt-get upgrade it says a few packages such as headers were kept back, why doesn't it upgrade them?09:17
lotuspsychjetowser: can you pastebin your apt output please09:18
lotuspsychjevolunteers will take a look for you09:18
ogratowser, most likely because these are phased updates ... apt policy <packagename> should tell you about it ... if they are phased, just wait or do a forced update by spcifying all package names in your apt update call09:23
towserthis is the output I get https://justpaste.it/8lznw09:24
towser3 packages are not upgraded09:27
arraybolt3[m]Welp. Once again I have gotten myself in a bit of trouble. My system is running Ubuntu Desktop 22.04. I downloaded an Ubuntu Kinetic ISO, flashed it to a USB drive, then installed it directly onto a second USB drive to do a test for a bug. After fighting with my system for quite a while, I managed to get the new Kinetic install to boot and finished my testing... and then discovered that I had managed to scramble the bootloader on my main09:35
arraybolt3[m]drive. On my main system. :( I got given a GRUB rescue prompt. Thankfully I'm decent at maneuvering this particular screen and managed to get my main system to boot, but I'm pretty sure I need to reinstall the bootloader at this point. Anyone know right off the top of their heads the right command? My system uses UEFI, Secure Boot is disabled, and I'm not dual-booting.09:35
iomari891greetings, my servers are accessing cloudfront service. I didn't configure this and I want to stop it. How can stop cloudfront access09:36
arraybolt3[m]iomari891: CloudFront appears to be a CDN related to Amazon Web Services. Perhaps an application or site you have installed is accessing it automatically?09:37
lotuspsychjearraybolt3[m]: EriC^ is out uefi wizard09:38
lotuspsychje*our09:38
arraybolt3[m]iomari891: At any rate, the first step would be to identify which process is accessing CloudFront. That should get you on the right path. I don't know off the top of my head how to do this, but someone else here might.09:38
arraybolt3[m]lotuspsychje: Thanks!09:39
arraybolt3[m](Shoulda known better than to do a QA test on my main laptop, but I figured, hey, I can recover even if it nukes my drive, what could go wrong? 🤦‍♂️)09:39
arraybolt3[m]*a bare-metal QA test09:39
towserhow do I update the packages that wern't upgraded?09:48
lotuspsychjetowser: did you see the advice ogra gave you?09:49
arraybolt3[m]towser: Did you check to see if they were still phasing? If they are, you shouldn't install them yourself (I mean you can but it's not necessary and could be a bad idea in rare instancces).09:50
arraybolt3[m]Try "apt-cache policy <packagename>", that will tell if if it's phasing or not.09:51
arraybolt3[m]If somewhere you see something that looks like "(phased 10%)" in the output, then it's phasing and you can just leave it be.09:51
towsernope not phasing09:54
arraybolt3[m]towser: Are you using "sudo apt upgrade" to upgrade? If so, try "sudo apt full-upgrade" instead.09:54
towserthat upgrades the ones it didn't upgrade before, thank you09:56
arraybolt3[m]towser: No problem, glad it worked!09:56
iomari891arraybolt3[m]: thanks10:10
arraybolt3[m](re: the boot issue I was facing - solution ended up being "sudo grub-install" in a terminal. Everything's back to normal now.)10:11
iomari891I have a huge list of ip addresses in xx.xx.xx.xx/xx format. I noticed some of the lines overlap others meaning that there would be duplicate ip addresses contained on the subnet. Is there any tool that can flag any line that conflict with another line? meaning any line that has an overlap in the ips. Hope this makes sense.10:21
arraybolt3[m]iomari891: Are these basically just duplicate lines in a file?10:23
arraybolt3[m]iomari891: If so, a Bash script should do the trick.10:24
Habbiethere's aggregate, grepcidr, various ruby and python modules for dealing with networks10:24
EriC^^iomari891: you could do "sort -u /path/to/file" it should remove the duplicate lines10:26
arraybolt3[m]EriC^^: I think they need to know what lines occur more than once, not just remove the duplicates.10:26
arraybolt3[m]Like, find them, leave them, highlight them.10:26
EriC^^oh10:26
EriC^^iomari891: use sort /path/to/file | uniq -c10:27
arraybolt3[m]This just seems like a job for grep...10:27
EriC^^it'll give you a count of them10:27
arraybolt3[m]EriC^^: And once again, someone has knocked my advanced shell scripting idea out of the park with a dirt simple one-liner. I may need to brush up on my Bash skills...10:28
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raphahi all11:21
raphaafter renaming VG and LV on which /-fs lives, and doing `update-initramfs -u -k all` it complains (NO encrypted fs present!) "cryptsetup: ERROR: couldn't resolve device such and such" ... trouble ahead if i reboot? or fine?11:22
raphaalso, update-grub does not want to run: "error: failed to get canonical path" ... how can i let it know about the new names?11:22
esvdid you update the /etc/crypttab too?11:23
raphaesv: no, because it's empty. like i said, that machine doesn't have any encrypted partitions / drives.11:23
esvooh ,11:23
esvi see11:23
raphahence my question if that error can be ignored11:24
esvdid you reinstall the grub?11:24
raphatried to11:24
raphabut ... "failed to get canonical path"11:24
esvdid you update /etc/default/grub too?11:26
esvwhat happens if you run grub-install?11:26
raphahmm11:26
rapha"installation finished. no error reported"11:27
esvwhat do you have in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub?11:27
raphaempty11:28
raphaas in, =""11:28
esvk11:28
raphahmm, adding11:28
raphaGRUB_DEVICE=/dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv11:28
raphaseems to have helped some11:28
raphaesv: full output is now https://gist.github.com/sixtyfive/8fd5c225f29f6512ed54617f44e0122511:29
rapha(system/root was the VG/LV's previous names ... now they're ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv)11:29
raphaso i think grub config / install are fine11:30
raphastill not trusting the initrd to be fine11:31
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raphahttps://gist.github.com/sixtyfive/7b105a74fc57cf8669a456602519864211:32
raphai mean, the whole thing might resolve itself with a reboot. or the reboot might not work out :P11:32
esvgreat way to learn :)11:33
raphaonly that if it fails i will have to pack up a laptop and a USB/Ethernet adapter, get up on my bicycle, head to the other side of town, plug in to the iDRAC, yadda yadda11:34
raphabut yeah it's unknowable at this point so i'll just try11:34
esvdon't have a live usb stick?11:34
raphawell, yeah, would need to pack that up, too ... but got no keys to the room and got no keys to the rack11:35
raphaso better hope someone with keys is there, too11:35
raphaok i hit enter on the "reboot" ... what does it matter, on monday someone _will_ be there with keys and it's not being used as a production machine atm11:36
esvi recovered mine with a live usb stick, well, with help too.11:38
esvwas about to ask what do you have for: "set root=" in /boot/grub/grub.cfg11:40
de-factoImagemagick in ubuntu is broken, it will refuse to write any pdf11:45
de-factoerror "convert-im6.q16: attempt to perform an operation not allowed by the security policy `PDF' @ error/constitute.c/IsCoderAuthorized/421."11:45
de-factosolution that works confirmed: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52998331/imagemagick-security-policy-pdf-blocking-conversion11:46
joseraeiroHello #ubuntu! https://askubuntu.com/questions/1427122/cant-find-out-if-ubuntu-server-is-using-all-the-disk-space Any help would be greatly appreciatted!11:51
zetherooDid Canonical make the decision to drop libssl 1.x last-minute before the release of 22.04, or were there months or more before they made that call? Does anyone know?11:53
raphaesv: recovering with a USB stick is always ok. what i often find difficult is to predict everything that _might_ happen and see to it that it doesn't11:56
raphaah! came back up! tadaaa!11:57
esv\o/11:57
webchat75Hi all12:00
raphahi 7512:00
webchat75Does Ubuntu Desktop 22.04 supports UEFI SecureBoot with Full Disk Encryption ?12:00
raphait supports FDE, i don't know about SB, sorry12:00
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webchat75rapha I noticed that Ubuntu Core supports UEFI SecureBoot, but for some reason I can't say the same for Ubuntu Desktop12:01
esvI believe it does, there is always a risky way to verify12:01
* rapha doesnt even know if any of his hardware supports UEFI SecureBoot12:02
webchat75@esv I'd expect it to be published... it is a good feature12:02
esvI believe I am using it, is that the bitlocker thing?12:02
webchat75Kind of12:02
webchat75I know that Bitlocker supports it, but it isn't necessarily activated, I think you should verify that12:03
esvI am on 22.04 and my company requires bitlocker enabled to access company resources (which I am using right now)12:05
esvnot sure if it is desktop or server version thou.12:05
de-factojoseraeiro, i guess it looks like you have a "/dev/sda: 500 GiB, 536870912000 bytes" but your filesystem root "/" is on "dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv: 100 GiB, 107374182400 bytes"12:07
de-factohence you seem to only use 20% of the available disk for your filesystem12:07
esvthe ouptut of vgs would come handy12:08
esv^^ joseraeiro12:08
BluesKajHi all12:27
luna__hey12:32
murmellotuspsychje: btw, if you remember my issue with the crashes which happen when the screen turns off/sleep? well, tried to get more logs, which just don't exist. I recovered some logs, and nothing shows up (there are no logs just before I hit the sleep button for example) and there is no crash log file :(12:56
murmeloh and the oem kernel works the same (intel panel self refresh even worse)12:57
tomreynyou may need to increase verbosity of whatever crashes13:00
murmeltomreyn: at least something got fixed, as the caps lock led doesn't blink anymore (but not sure if that means the kernel _doesn't_ crash anymore. but at the same time nothing gets the laptop out of that state13:03
murmeltomreyn: idk does it help? even when the logs stop at 1-2 mins before the crash?13:03
tomreynif "the logs stop" because the logging daemon stops at that point, then increasing verbosity won't help. if "the logs stop" at this time because no service is trying to log anything, then it may help.13:05
tomreyndid you set up kernel debugging?13:05
tomreyndid you attach a serial console or a netconsole?13:05
tomreynhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks13:06
murmelif the wiki would load for me ;) 50413:07
murmeltomreyn: btw, connecting a serial console is not possible for me, as I only ever have this laptop on me (and traveling on top of that)13:10
geirhahttps://web.archive.org/web/20220707143403/https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging13:15
tomreynyou can probably find cached copies of these pages on we.archive.org13:15
tomreynah geirha beat me to it13:15
murmelnice thanks. didn't think about it13:18
tomreynmurmel: you can use a mobile phone (at least android devices, not sure about ios) as a terminal connecting to a serial console provided by your laptop, given you have a suitable cable (with a suitable chipset, such as FTDI FT232, Prolific PL2303)13:19
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lotuspsychjemurmel: so a regular kernel + oem kernel act the same on your issue, maybe its an acpi related bug?13:31
tomreyngood point - if it's a bios bug this would also explain why you're not seeing anything logged about it on linux's end (other than *maybe* during boot when it parses acpi tables)13:35
lotuspsychjemurmel: could you pastebin your current dmesg again, so maybe we can focus on acpi this time?13:36
sal-monHello, last night my pc was stuck on a variety of errors, (stdin: not a typewriter, kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt, kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init, [CR2: 000000000000000000000008 CR3: 000000000000000000000000000008])13:40
sal-monand uhh, I'm not sure what to do exactly13:40
sal-monI've cleaned out my pc, ran memtest, but I'm sill not sure what's the issue, I think it's one thing that causes these13:41
sal-monbecause it happens on a live usb too13:41
lotuspsychje!details | sal-mon elaborate a bit more please13:44
ubottusal-mon elaborate a bit more please: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.13:44
murmeltomreyn: lotuspsychje: awesome will look into it as I have an android device. and I really hope that it's not acpi :/ as the device is already 4 years old, I won't assume that dell would fix it. brb 1hr for some food13:47
lotuspsychjesal-mon: ubuntu release, kernel version and dmesg in a pastebin would be useful for the volunteers to take a deeper look into your issue13:51
joseraeiroesv, sudo vgs -a13:52
joseraeiro[sudo] password for next-it:13:52
joseraeiro  VG        #PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize    VFree13:52
joseraeiro  ubuntu-vg   1   1   0 wz--n- <498.00g <398.00g13:52
sal-monalright, a few days ago I shut down my pc (Ryzen 3 3200G, 8gb of ram, Ubuntu 22.04) completely normally, and the next morning it gave me this error: [End kernel panic: not syncing - fatal exception in interrupt] and booting from a live usb (ubuntu 22.04, flashed with balenaEtcher) gave me the same error, so after some advice on here, I ran memtest13:52
sal-mon(RAM's fine) and cleaned out my pc completely, however, now it returns this: [End kernel panic: not syncing - attempted to kill init!]. I think it's one error or something went wrong that it's causing a bunch of errors.13:52
sal-mon(I can't boot into an OS to check anything though)13:52
joseraeirode-facto, and how could I use the remaining disk space and mount it in /?13:53
tomreynmurmel: you won't strictly need the serial console if the system survives whatever happens there. just an ssh shell and increased kernel loglevel on that tty13:53
lotuspsychjesal-mon: did you try to enter grub==>recoverymode yet?13:53
tomreyn!paste | joseraeiro13:54
ubottujoseraeiro: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:54
sal-monlotuspsychje: the recovery options for ubuntu? yes, they also returned similar errors, unless there's another rescue mode? (also thank you for helping me)13:55
lotuspsychjesal-mon: try again entering a recoverymode and enable networking + fallback to a rootshell (if you get that far)13:55
lotuspsychjesal-mon: also test older kernels, in case its an issue about the recent kernel update13:56
tomreynsal-mon: you could try connecting the disk to a different computer and accessing the logs from there. it would be good to see a dmesg (run: dmsg | nc termbin.com 9999) of the system booting.14:12
tomreynthis may help provide you with a better guess on which hardware component is broken14:12
sal-monlotuspsychje: sorry for the delay, but all the recovery options for ubuntu give the same error: [End kernel panic: not syncing - fatal exception in interrupt]14:12
sal-montomreyn: it's an internal disk, and I don't have a SATA to USB cable14:13
tomreynand not another computer with a sata controller, i assume?14:13
sal-monunfortunately nope14:14
lotuspsychjesal-mon: did you change anything on your computer lately?14:14
tomreynwell, those cables are cheap.14:14
sal-monI did upgrade to 22.04 around two weeks ago14:15
lotuspsychjesal-mon: do you get the same kernel panic on a 20.04 liveusb too?14:16
sal-monI'm downloading the ISO right now, I'll test it soon, thanks14:16
lotuspsychjeallright cross fingers its jammy related14:17
sal-monlotuspsychje: after a bit of kernel parameter modifying I got the furthest I ever did! but now outputs stdin: not a typewriter and the cursor's frozen14:30
theoshihi14:33
theosi am thinking of buying a touchscreen pc/monitor. does ubuntu have drivers for using a touchscreen? or is there some other version suitable for a touchscreen-only pc?14:34
tomreynsal-mon: this can be a red herring, but worth a try: sal-mon: remove any usb devices you don't need, especially usb hubs. if you have a spare keyboard, replace your keyboard, too. if not, make sure its wire isn't twitched. see what happens if you only connect the keyboard after boot14:34
arraybolt3[m]theos: Ubuntu should support touchscreens out of the box.14:35
sal-mon44tomreyn: I only have the usb drive, keyboard and HDMI cable plugged into the pc14:35
arraybolt3[m]I guess it depends on the exact touchscreen hardware, but the one I used to use worked just fine, and another person with a touchscreen also had his working.14:35
sal-mon44I'll try unplugging the keyboard really fast lol14:35
theosarraybolt3[m] thats good to know. thanks a lot. are you using the vga port or hdmi?14:36
arraybolt3[m]theos: I've used both ports. I have a monitor with a touchscreen that connected over a USB cable, so the touchscreen signal and the video signal were transmitted separately AFAICT. (Sadly my cat broke the screen, but while it worked, it worked!)14:38
rob0arraybolt3[m], so a touchscreen worked on VGA? Did it also have to have a USB connection?14:39
arraybolt3[m]rob0: Yep, worked on VGA with a USB connection. It also required the USB connection when using HDMI.14:40
theosarraybolt3[m] i see. so vga for video and usb for touch signal. hah I have to keep it away from my cats then. thanks.14:40
rob0oh. The only one I've had is a built-in laptop monitor, and I never bothered to look it up in lsusb.14:40
arraybolt3[m]theos: 👍️ Glad to help! And yeah, careful of cats that knock stuff down. The screen works but the glass is broken on mine and the touch no longer functions (or at least it didn't last I tried).14:40
rob0Mine is LCD, not glass.14:41
theos:D14:41
wezLCD's still exist?  I thought it was all LEDs these days14:41
rob0wez, idk tbh14:42
theosLED is the backlight. LCD is the screen.14:42
rob0all I know for sure is, not glass14:42
arraybolt3[m]theos: Unless you use an OLED screen.14:43
tomreynor an e-ink display14:43
theosarraybolt3[m] those are amazing! thinking of buying an OLED phone.14:44
weztheos: You can have LED as the screen too14:44
weznot just the backlight14:44
theostomreyn have been waiting for an e-ink/e-paper ubuntu phone which can fold like newspaper and fit inside the pocket, for a decade or so. i am sure it will be available in the next 100 years :D14:48
theoswez yes you are right14:48
weztheos: I am yes14:49
lagunagrub keeps adding entries in the ubuntu options list on jammy jellyfish14:49
lagunai have several of the same entries in the grub boot list14:49
lagunaeverytime i update the kernel more entries get added in the ubuntu options list it just gets longer and longer with same entries14:52
iorialaguna, do you regularly run apt autoremove or  apt autopurge ?14:53
GrandPa-GI am running LUbuntu. I just started getting the blue splash screen, pause for about a minute, then black, no desktop. How do I repair this?14:53
lagunaioria yes i ran apt autoremove to remove the old kernel after the new installs14:53
iorialaguna, and you still have several entriesin the grub menu  ?14:54
sal-mon44is there a part that can fail other than RAM and not show up in POST? because I feel most of my issues have an underlying problem'14:54
lagunaioria yes and they are duplicates of the new kernel14:54
iorialaguna, please, run   dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 999914:54
lagunaok14:54
lagunaioria i ran it but i don't see anything in the terminal14:56
murmellotuspsychje: hm, can't see anything. (but also not _that_ good at reading acpi stuff) https://termbin.com/pcwy14:56
murmeleh maybe tomreyn ^ xD14:56
iorialaguna, the cmd is correct, try again14:56
lagunaioria ok it comes back with this link https://termbin.com/c1ep14:57
lagunaioria i ran it without sudo14:57
ioriasure14:57
zetherooDid anyone reply to my question about libssl version in Ubuntu 22.04? I can't find any mentions of my nick ...14:58
iorialaguna, i'd say , you keep 5.15.0-46 and 47 and purge the others... unless you need them14:58
Habbiezetheroo, i don't think there were answers14:59
zetherooHabbie: okay14:59
lagunawell i use the old 5.3 source....and i already autoremove 5.15.0.4614:59
iorialaguna, run  : ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools/ | nc termbin.com 999915:00
tomreynGrandPa-G: is this a new installation? did it work previously? was there any other event that could have caused this to happen, such as a version upgrade or a hardware failure?15:01
lagunaioria i get this ls: cannot access '/var/lib/initramfs-tools/': No such file or directory15:02
GrandPa-Gyes, worked for months. Yesterday it worked. I think it worked when I started this am, but not positive. I did try to put a nvida (old) card into it, got this conidtion for sure, took it out and back to onboard video. That is all. ssh works fine.15:02
iorialaguna, try again , you mispelled ?15:03
tomreynGrandPa-G: do you have a spare computer you're chatting from now?15:03
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, yes15:04
tomreynGrandPa-G: oh you say ssh works fine, that's good. is the system online, too, can you   ping -c3 1.1.1.1    without it reporting 100% lost?15:04
sal-mon44I'm getting this error booting ubuntu 20.04 from a usb drive: ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)15:04
sal-mon44it's 10 mins and it's still frozen15:05
sal-mon44nothing's plugged in apart from the usb drive it's booting from15:05
lagunaioria same result there is no initramfs-tools in /var/lib15:05
rob0if you can ssh in, you know the machine is not crashed15:05
johnfghey folks.  this is what's in my .vnc logfile from when I tried to connect from a debian system: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gd5mzMSCVx/15:05
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, -c doesn't work on windows, but I can ping fine.15:05
tomreynGrandPa-G: i mean on the lubuntu system, which you can login to via ssh15:06
johnfgThis  is running tightvnc on ubuntu 22.0415:06
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, works there also15:06
johnfgmy debian is the latest with all updates.  Same error trying to connect from a win 10 machine.15:06
lagunaioria apparently this doesn't use initramfs-tools to create the initramfs entries in /boot15:08
ioriathis ?15:08
lagunaioria..jammy jellyfish15:08
tomreynGrandPa-G: can you: cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 999915:08
lagunaor it doesnt place it in /var/lib15:08
tomreynGrandPa-G: this should return a http address you can share here. run the above command on the lubuntu sstem, as all further commands, too15:09
GrandPa-Ghttps://termbin.com/q1fa15:09
tomreynGrandPa-G: my theory is that when you inserted the old nvidia card, you also installed proprietary grapics drivers, which are now hardwared on this system. you can use ubuntu-drivers to remove them, but first let's look at the log you just posted, it should tell us what things are like right now.15:10
iorialaguna, right15:10
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, I think your are correct. How do I remove them?15:10
iorialaguna, is initramfs-tools-core  package installed ?15:11
lagunaioria15:11
lagunalet me see15:11
tomreynGrandPa-G: hmm, this log says otherwise, but you can check nevertheless. the tool for managing proprietary drivers from a CLI is "ubuntu-drivers" (run it with sudo).15:11
Guest80Hello15:12
lagunaioria yes it is already the latest version but nothing in /var/lib15:12
tomreynGrandPa-G: your internal graphics chipset is an intel, driver i915, so you should not have any nvidia drivers installed, only use open source drivers.15:12
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, I know that if I try a apt autoremove or apt upgrade, it gives me some errors about nvida failing15:12
Guest80in /etc/hosts, can i add multiple hostnames under one IP address of my server? like 192.168.1.10 example.mydomain example2.mydomain example3.mydomain15:13
iorialaguna, ls /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/15:14
tomreynGrandPa-G: can you show: sudo apt-get update > /tmp/apt_update.txt 2>&1 ; cat /tmp/apt_update.txt | nc termbin.com 999915:15
tomreynGrandPa-G: can you show: sudo apt-get -fy install >/tmp/apt_install.txt 2>&1 ; cat /tmp/apt_install.txt | nc termbin.com 999915:15
lagunaioria the directory exist but there is no entry in it15:16
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, first one15:16
GrandPa-Ghttps://termbin.com/tzbi15:16
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, 2nd one, shows the errors I have seen https://termbin.com/nk0m15:17
iorialaguna, can you paste  : sudo update-grub | nc termbin.com 999915:17
tomreynGrandPa-G: "linux-image-nvidia-..." sounds like you downloaded and installed drivers from nvidia.com - i would not recommend this. canonical (the company behind ubuntu, which is the foundation for lubuntu, too) and nvidia cooperate to have a better integration of nvidia drivers into ubuntu and its official flavors (such as lubuntu)15:19
lagunaioria i ran it and it lists way too many entries but did not return a web link15:19
tomreynGrandPa-G: what does this say (other than a warning that we should not be doing this?)    apt list --installed *nvidia* |& nc termbin.com 999915:20
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, nope. I just did a ubuntu-drivers autoinstall. But anyway, how do I remove them15:20
ioriacopy and paste some of it laguna15:20
ioriaafk for 10 mins15:20
lagunaioria ok enerating grub configuration file ...15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, https://termbin.com/9jbv15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound Windows 10 on /dev/sda115:21
lagunaFound Gentoo/Linux on /dev/sda415:21
lagunaFound Windows 10 on /dev/sda115:21
lagunaFound Gentoo/Linux on /dev/sda415:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
tomreyn!paste | laguna15:21
ubottulaguna: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-47-generic15:21
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.3.1815:21
lagunaFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-5.3.1815:21
lagunaFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf15:21
lagunaFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin15:21
lagunaFound Windows 10 on /dev/sda115:22
lagunaFound Gentoo/Linux on /dev/sda415:22
lagunaFound linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-47-lowlatency15:22
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, thanks15:22
InPhasetomreyn: +q was the one you were looking for.15:22
tomreynright15:22
Eickmeyer[m]WOAH!15:22
Eickmeyer[m]!pasrte15:22
Eickmeyer[m]!paste15:22
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, here is the last paste in case it scrolled off https://termbin.com/9jbv15:24
tomreynGrandPa-G: thanks, it just took me a while to assemble this list:   sudo apt purge libnvidia-cfg1-470 libnvidia-common-470 libnvidia-compute-470 libnvidia-compute-470 libnvidia-decode-470 libnvidia-encode-470 libnvidia-extra-470 libnvidia-fbc1-470 libnvidia-gl-470 libnvidia-ifr1-470 linux-modules-nvidia-470-5.15.0-46-generic linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04 linux-objects-nvidia-470-5.15.0-46-generic linux-signatures-nvidia-5.15.0-46-gen15:26
tomreyneric nvidia-compute-utils-470 nvidia-driver-470 nvidia-kernel-common-470 nvidia-kernel-source-470 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings nvidia-utils-470 xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-47015:26
tomreynlet me pastebin this as well15:26
wezDon't pastbin15:26
wezit's full of ads15:26
wezuse another pasting site15:26
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, i got it all. I just need to install eric15:27
Eickmeyerwez: He knows what he's doing, please don't interfere.15:27
tomreynGrandPa-G: no, that's a line break15:27
tomreynGrandPa-G: run this instead: https://termbin.com/mwki15:27
wezEickmeyer: ?15:27
Eickmeyerwez: You'll notice he used termbin, pastebin is just lingo.15:28
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, got the paste15:28
tomreynwez: i use "pastebin" as a generic term for such sites, not just for pastebin.com15:28
wezOh, so like using kleenex when you mean tissue? Or podcast when you mean audio streaming?  I don't agree in promoting brands though, and being in an open source related channel I don't find brands appropriate.15:29
johnfgany ideas on my problem with tightvnc?15:29
Eickmeyerwez: Please see the guidelines, and stay on topic.15:30
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, no joy in mudville. Here is what is left. Does it need to go also? https://termbin.com/hiix15:32
iorialagbox, not here, never15:33
iorialaguna,  not here, never15:33
wezEickmeyer: I did, promoting websites with ads and using trademarked terms is blatent conflit of interest. Why else would you product placement if you weren't being paid to do so.15:34
tomreynGrandPa-G: so just this one package is left? can you share what happens when you try to remove this one?    sudo apt purge -y libnvidia-compute-470 |& nc termbin.com 999915:34
iorialaguna, save the output in a text fileand cat to termbin.com 9999 oruse anotherpastebin site15:34
Eickmeyerwez: The topic here is Ubuntu Support, not general discussion about Ubuntu or open source.15:34
lagunatom ok why does sudo update-grub | nc termbin.com 9999 not return a web link15:34
GrandPa-Ghttps://termbin.com/77c815:35
oerheksthe update grub command takes too long to finish, termbin does not wait for that.15:35
wezEickmeyer: I am getting this from the topic, IRC guidlines15:35
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, oky, doky rebooting now15:35
iorialaguna, told you : save the output in a text file and cat to termbin.com 999915:35
Eickmeyer[m]wez: There was no product placement. Generic terms are allowed.15:36
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, no different. Do I need to get the intel drivers now?15:37
tomreynGrandPa-G: so you can also    sudo apt-get --purge autoremove15:37
wezEickmeyer[m]: pastebin is not generic15:37
tomreynGrandPa-G: intel drivers are already installed, but it's opssible that the nvidia drivers are still hardwired somewhere.15:37
wezEickmeyer[m]: PASTEBIN is a trademark of Pastebin Inc.. Filed in September 28 (2020)15:37
Eickmeyer[m]wez: This is not the place to argue. Please stop.15:38
wezEickmeyer[m]: I am not arguing, I am stating the IRC guildines here, that you should be folloeing15:38
wezfollowing*15:38
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, this did autoremoved Removing libnvidia-compute-470:i386 (470.141.03-0ubuntu0.20.04.1) ...15:39
GrandPa-G maybe now????15:39
lagunaioria ok i saved to a file what command to cat to termbin15:39
ioriacat textfile | nc termbin.com 9999 laguna15:39
lagunaioria ok15:39
tomreynGrandPa-G:  i assume it's not enough. do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something in directory /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/   ?15:40
lagunaioria ok here is link https://termbin.com/xa9315:40
lagunaioria you can see evergrowing list of grub entries15:41
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, didn't help. I have the xorg.conf15:41
tomreynGrandPa-G: please  sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia15:42
marchelloHi all, how do I grant read permission to specific user for one specific file?15:42
tomreynGrandPa-G: is there something nvidia-ish in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?15:42
iorialaguna, cd /boot ;ls vmlinuz* | nc termbin.com 999915:43
tomreynGrandPa-G: or in /etc/modules-load.d/  ?15:43
lagunaioria i think the grub package needs fixing15:43
ioriasofc15:43
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, I will. Now one more thing I didn't think of and this may be the root. I use vnc on this machine. There is a problem with it lagging. One of the solutions is to use a dummy video setup, I don't remember. I think I did that a few days ago, but just reboot today. I bet that is the problem15:43
lagunaioria ok here is link https://termbin.com/h8ta15:44
tomreynGrandPa-G: oh, then i assume this may have been configured in the xorg.conf which is now /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:45
tomreynGrandPa-G: do you still remember what you configured there exactly, or why?15:45
lagunaioria i think the grub package needs updating for this version of ubuntu15:45
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, https://termbin.com/eq6j15:46
iorialaguna, what you mean ? it's not the correct version ?15:46
lagunaioria no it needs fixing it is the latest version but it has this problem15:46
z1hazeduring apt update im getting this error `E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid Release' does not have a Release file.`15:47
iorialaguna, ls /etc/grub.d  nc termbin.com 999915:47
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, yes, there are several problem/solutions to prevent the vnc lag. Doing this was one. I probably can find the reference if necessary15:47
iorialaguna, ls /etc/grub.d |   nc termbin.com 999915:47
sal-mon44umm netBSD boots on my pc when nothing else can (linux)15:48
lagunaioria ok here is link https://termbin.com/13rc15:48
tomreynGrandPa-G: i'm not really familiar with this configuration. but this xorg.conf is just about that, nothing nvidia specific in there.15:48
sal-mon44can I recover linux from netBSD?15:48
iorialaguna, maybe the problem lays in that directory...15:49
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, This is wild guess, but does the dummy configuration references negate the use of a monitor, thus black?15:49
lagunaioria well grub needs fixing to correct the directory or whatever15:50
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, this is the reference. I used option 715:50
GrandPa-Ghttps://help.realvnc.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005081572-Display-issues-when-connecting-to-VNC-Server-running-on-Linux15:50
iorialaguna, sy, not a grub specialistand i don't want to bork your system15:51
lagunaioria ok well it boots but it has way too many options15:51
ioriayep15:51
tomreynGrandPa-G: yes, you only have the dummy graphics card and monitor configured in your xorg.conf so that'S the only output available, so your screen remains black15:52
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, yep, unfortunately vnc on client is working either, thus why I started this repair process. If I want to get back to default, should I just nuke the xorg.conf?15:53
tomreynGrandPa-G: you already moved the xorg.conf out of the way, so it should already no longer apply.15:54
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, i really appreciate your patience. I should not have had you go downn the nvida road (though it needed to be fixed). How can I can repay you?15:55
tomreynGrandPa-G: hehe, by sharing your experience on another topic, here or elsewhere.15:56
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, I just didn't of something I did days ago. There is a vnc..conf file there and I copied it to xorg.conf At least my desktop is back.15:56
tomreynGrandPa-G: great, i'm glad it works now.15:57
tomreynGrandPa-G: here's a farily complete guide for this (i only followed this from memory since i did not have the link handy), should you run into the nvidia situation again: https://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely15:58
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, I seem to be the person that has all the problems. Each time I learn something new (especially this time). I just wish I could be the one to help.15:58
tomreynGrandPa-G: you're a grandpa-g, i'm sure you have experience on *something* you can share with someone who likes to learn about it - doesn't need to be related to computers or tech at all. ;-)16:00
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, now off to fix the vnc lag problem another way. I am trying teamViewer.16:00
tomreynGrandPa-G: good luck. maybe you can also get help here with the dummy screen, i just assume the realvnc guide doesn't apply 1-to-1 to current lubuntu16:00
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, not many questions on how keypunch a computer card, how why my teletype terminal only runs at 10 chars/sec.16:01
lagunatom i looked at lubuntu and it was interesting without the kdelibs but when i hold a key down in its terminal program the buffer fills up and it fails to repeat16:02
tomreynGrandPa-G: one thing to know there is that, when there is no xorg.conf, xorg creates one by itself on the fly, based on whatever hardware and drivers it finds. but by placing the xorg.conf there you override that.16:02
lagunai don't think there is a fix for grub-pc at this time but i guess i could hand edit the grub.cfg file to eliminate the many entries and the grub-install /dev/sda16:03
tomreynGrandPa-G: there is also the /etc/X11/xorg.d/ directory - configurations placed in there should only *add to* the auto-generated configuration, if i'm getting this right. so maybe that's what you want for the dummy display.16:03
tomreynGrandPa-G: anyways, good luck!16:04
GrandPa-Gtomreyn, thanks again.16:04
sal-mon44Sorry for asking again, but since I can boot into netBSD (at least it doesn't give me outright errors), but my ubuntu installation won't boot, can I recover ubuntu from netBSD?16:07
tomreynsal-mon44: depends on what you'll need to do to fix it. but most likely, no.16:08
tomreynsal-mon44: you can probably use netbsd to write a bootable ubuntu live system, though, and then boot into that16:09
sal-mon44tomreyn: ah well, is there any path I can take to try and fix my install then?16:09
sal-mon44oh that's interesting, I'll look into that16:09
sal-mon44thanks!16:09
tomreynyou're welcome16:10
Guest80Hello, in /etc/hosts, can i add multiple hostnames under one IP address of my server? like 192.168.1.10 example.mydomain example2.mydomain mydomain.ltd ?16:16
rob0see the hosts(5) manual, yes, you can also use multiple entries for the same IP address.16:17
sal-mon44tomreyn: quick question, is there a resource on how to use netBSD to write a ubuntu live system? all google gives me is how to install netBSD16:17
tomreynsal-mon44: i can't support netbsd, but you will need to do a raw write of the iso file to the usb storage device (replacing any existing partitions and data on it)16:18
tomreynthis information should be sufficient to learn, from a netbsd support community, how to do it there16:19
sal-mon44but can't I just use another pc to do that? (also thank you very much)16:19
lotuspsychjemurmel: im reading things about hibernate freezes in relation to xorg-server, i was wondering if you had these freezes on earlier ubuntu releases? or can you reproduce this on both wayland & xorg?16:20
tomreynsure, you cna also use another computer to do this. you asked about netbsd specifically, which i why i answered about netbsd specifically16:20
tomreynsal-mon44: ^ this was to you16:20
sal-mon44thanks again16:20
tomreynsal-mon44: balena etcher is a graphical application which you can use on linux, os x and windows desktops to write iso files to usb attached storages and have the written data validated automatically. it is easy to use.16:22
sal-mon44that's the one I use already, thing is everything I try is borked16:22
sal-mon44eh, I'll try sometime later16:22
sal-mon44I can't believe I'm considering this but, can I boot windows and run boot-repair from windows to ubuntu if that makes sense?16:32
rob0Windows can fix/manage its own boot loader. AFAIK it can't manage grub.16:40
tomreynwsl2 might be able to. but that's more of a scientific exploration than a way forward for fixing an issue with an ubuntu installations' boot loader16:42
rickardwhat about a live usb?16:45
tomreynthis was suggested earlier. sal-mon44's issue is that that also fails to boot, due to what seems to be a hardware issue on their computer.16:47
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triplebmorgan17:13
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morganuI complained in #chrome that the "make a shortcut" command does not work in 20.0417:20
alkisgOuch, 1/3 of schools report that `do-release-upgrade` breaks at the "installing firefox snap" step, forever waiting for snapd to restart. Then all we can do is a manual `apt full-upgrade`.17:29
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ograalkisg, hmm, that was supposed to be fixed (it is blodly mentioned as bug in the release notes IIRC)17:46
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alkisgThank you ogra, reading the notes... :)18:32
elias_aalkisg: Now that is nasty... :/18:52
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wadWeird... the `cal` command is gone from the latest Ubuntu?19:03
wadsudo apt install ncal # now it's here.19:04
jhutchinsThere have been such drastic changes in how calendars work that they had to re-write it.19:37
ioriait's just not installed by defaults19:42
sarnoldncal was split off from bsdmainutils, dunno why https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/bsdmainutils/12.1.319:44
wadjhutchins, you don't say... lol19:45
Minor723Hello I am trying to figure out How i started minecraft as a service, it might have been as a user and I cant remember how.19:56
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sarnoldMinor723: starting minecraft in a crontab @reboot is pretty popular..19:57
sarnoldMinor723: try crontab -l   ?19:58
wadMinor723, I usually run mine in screen sessions.19:58
wadtry `screen -r`.19:58
Minor723Yeah I only remember somthing like systemctl --user19:58
wad(Obviously, this doesn't run it as an actually service, and so if I restart the computer, I need to restart the minecraft server manually in another screen session.)19:59
sarnoldaha then try systemctl --user list-units   ?19:59
Minor723Sorry guys ill be right back.20:00
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jhutchins!minecraft20:08
gordonjcpis there a minecraft factoid?20:09
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jhutchinsgordonjcp: Apparently not.20:24
GrandPa-GMinor723-afk, look in /etc/systemd/system and see if any pops out. I run my minecraft from service. I like to be able to restart anytime. see if service has user defined20:27
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dorcas!xonotic20:28
johnny_Linuxamazing20:29
dorcas!kmahjongg20:30
dorcasnot even kmahjongg20:30
johnny_Linuxvpn playing games20:38
jhutchinsLinux: What's that between your ears then?20:38
johnny_LinuxGMO air20:39
johnny_Linuxno worries, I have car exhaust to offset the balance20:41
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jhutchinsThe bot is very limited.  It could use user submissions.20:52
sarnoldit's got thousands of them, no?20:53
jhutchinssarnold: Probably.20:53
oerheks!factoids20:53
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johnny_Linux^20:54
johnny_Linuxworks very well.20:55
Minor723-afk /nick Minor72321:05
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Minor723OK sorry about that, I am back iam trying to see where i setup the systemctl for minecraft. I want to say I used a minecraft user account21:06
Minor723Is there a way to see what systemctl stuff is running for user minecraft?21:06
oerheksMinor723, find a good tutorial for a minecraft server?21:06
Minor723Yeah I will, I just want to stop loading the one that i have now21:07
Minor723Because im not using it and its taking up 4GB21:07
oerhekssure they can help you in #mincraft21:07
Minor723This really isnt about that as much as stopping a service from running21:07
dorcasis init.d still how?21:10
oerheksas i have no clue how you set this up, systemctl status minecraft.service something21:11
oerheksstatus-stop-start-restart21:11
Minor723What does this mean? sudo systemctl --user status minecraft.service / Failed to connect to bus: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not defined (consider using --machine=<user>@.host --user to connect to bus of other user)21:16
oerhekswhy would that server run under user? all guides that i have seen are different.21:19
oerheksnot sure where you get21:23
oerheks sudo systemctl --user status from21:23
GrandPa-GMinor723, I suggest you try to run it from a console first. See if it is even installed correctly. Unless I am wrong, there really isn't anything to install. Just point at the minecraft jar file.21:32
GrandPa-GMinor723, we're way off topic I suppose, but you should need to execute something like this in your service. java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar server.jar nogui21:35
murmellotuspsychje: sorry, was knocked out. will test xorg now :)21:35
sarnoldGrandPa-G: I think the trouble is that Minor723 did something like that a few years ago and hasn't got a clue *where* that was done, so is now trying to find that command again21:36
sarnoldmurmel: note that lotus left hours ago21:36
murmelsarnold: yeah I assumed, but because his name still autocompleted *shrug*21:37
murmeli thought I just let him know21:37
sarnoldmurmel: ah then your client is busted :) he's not around21:38
GrandPa-GMinor723, this is what my service file looks like. I called it minecraft25567.service in /etc/systemd/system https://termbin.com/2bwq21:38
murmelsarnold: ahh thanks for the information then. damn irssi21:39
GrandPa-Gsarnold, I would just do a find *.service and wade through what is found. Likely to be there.21:39
sarnoldGrandPa-G: yeah, a few hours ago I suggested systemctl list-units and systemctl --user list-units ... dunno whatever came of that. I also see a lot of folks using @reboot in crontabs .. :)21:40
GrandPa-Gsarnold, I mentioned before, I like the ability to shut it off and turn it on whenever. I can utilize system resources for other more productive things.21:41
johnny_Linuxinteresting.. upon evolution mail.. i get the graphics frame as if i loaded it from conclusion.. and in another window.. i get.. the usual entry level contract.. whats uo with that. confused.22:08
johnny_Linuxlooks to me.. another windoze set-up.22:09
johnny_Linuxhttps://files.catbox.moe/mcgutg.png22:18
murmeljohnny_Linux: yes, what's the issue?22:19
johnny_Linuxsecurity.. maybe im reading it wrong..22:20
murmeljohnny_Linux: explain yourself, better. I mean your sentence makes no sense to me, and the screenshot of 3 screens doesn't really help22:22
johnny_Linuxinteresting.. thanks22:23
murmeljohnny_Linux: I mean what security (issue?) are you talking about? that it opens 2 windows?22:24
johnny_Linuxthe 2 windows perpetrated a sequence of seperate consequences.22:24
murmelplease what?22:25
oerheks"if i loaded it from conclusion"  ??22:25
johnny_Linuxwindow #1 = a graphic of said install..  window #2 = said pre=install22:26
johnny_Linuxmaybe im being over dramatic.. but.. still.. thank you for your time and efforts22:27
johnny_Linuxas a side note: most educated microsoft users know the level that these people operate at. That being said, i hold my peace.  Again, thank you.22:51
johnny_LinuxThink Smart.23:04
johnny_Linuxmicrosoft with all its DARPA incarnates, will infuse all its finances to further its agenda.. im quiet. thanks23:12
johnny_Linuxim 78.. i used to work for them.23:13
johnny_Linuxg-nite23:14
johnny_Linuxfor those who know.. we know A.I.23:29
johnny_Linuxwe get it23:29
johnny_LinuxI am a retired engineer, im game.23:30
johnny_Linuxbring it.23:30
johnny_LinuxThe embeded code that ubutu now has, no, one knws.23:31
johnny_Linuxmost of you volunteers, have zero idea23:32
dorcas. . . ..23:33
johnny_Linuxquantum-bits now operate at room temp.. have so for the last 5 yrs23:34
johnny_Linuxmst are google slaves for $23:35
johnny_Linuxwe know23:35
johnny_Linuxthanks23:35
johnny_Linuxopen source is a slave to satan.. this we know.23:36
johnny_LinuxI remember when god put his hand upon me when i first put my fingers on a computer back when win 98 came out... i i puked..i then knew what computers were fore23:38
johnny_Linuxhe was right23:39
dorcasquit trippin23:40
johnny_LinuxI also knew, back in 77 when games came out, that they were to confuse society23:40
johnny_LinuxI was right.23:40
mybalzitchlook at this boomer dropping all the truth bombs on us23:41
mybalzitchthe veil has been pulled back from my eyes!23:41
johnny_Linuxmybalzitch,  boomers are not cutting their diks off and putting dresses on to be able to go to any rest-room to molest children..  boomers created the tech that employees you  today23:42
oerheksjohnny_Linux, please, this channel is for technical support.23:42
oerheks!offtopic23:42
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johnny_Linuxok23:43
mybalzitchtop notch hate speech23:43
johnny_LinuxThank you for listening.23:46
a1hello can someone help me23:46
oerheksa1, ask, wait and see?23:47
a1i just installed lubuntu and im trying to update my drivers on my dell inspiron 152523:47
enigma9o7[m]That's tough to answer a1.23:47
enigma9o7[m]If you just installed the OS, why do you think you need to update drivers?23:47
a1because i dont have full hardware acceleration on my gpu23:48
a1its a x3100 intell gpu23:48
oerheksoh intel is supported within the kernel, no need to install drivers. what problems do you have?23:48
a1a1@a1-inspi1010:~$ lspci23:49
a100:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)23:49
a100:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)23:49
a100:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c)23:49
a100:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)23:49
a100:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)23:49
oerheks!paste23:49
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oerheksand you already told your GPU...23:49
enigma9o7[m]What maes you think you don't have "full hardware acceleration on your gpu" ?23:50
oerheksone fix could be setting max memory in your bios.23:50
johnny_Linuxi SEE THE DOT.. GOOD NOTE FOLKS23:51
a1i have a external monitor connected and im trying to close shut down laptop lid and only use external monitor and it wont let me23:51
enigma9o7[m]g;night johnny, remember one day at a time.... tomorrows a new day to restart your sobriety23:51
oerheksPreferences > Power Manager > General ; You can choose what the system does when lid is closed both on battery or plugged-in power ??23:53
oerheksfor Lubuntu, AFAIK23:53
a1thank you so much i finally found the setting to disable when lid is closed to not put machine in to stand by23:55

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